ID:Invaded Episode 4 Discussion

Nieznajomy43 said:
there is only thing that don't make sense. How they don't figure out that this isn't live base on girl social media activity? she was teenegar, she would definitely make a few posts or published some picters every day. they should know approximately date of her kidnaping.

Beichuuka said:

Since episode 1 Sakaido has only ever used his “detective skills” to figure out what is wrong with “Kaeru”. Everything else has been based on instinct, which has seemed to be the more useful skill seeing as solving Kaeru’s mystery doesn’t always help solve the irl case. Also, try playing one of those games with your memory wiped every time you fail. Think you can instinct your way through it with a few tries? I’d think not.

Beichuuka said:

I find it perfectly reasonable that there could be some time between the kidnapping and the actual burying. This was known to be true for Anaido (forgot his irl name) and when he “operated” on his victims, and in any case, I find it unlikely that a good time to kidnap someone always = good time to bury them.

Daniel_Naumov said:

This is a very short-sighted assumption. You are projecting how things usually (does not mean they have to, it is just they do) work in your society. The series is set in modern Japan, where not all the children are consumed with attention need and instead prefer stoic static to an unending stream of photos and videos.

Kimurah said:


Episode 4 pretty much proved that instinct and deduction meant squat. He used the backdraft as a trampoline to reach the bridge that conected the 2 seperate building blocks.
Also the thing that his memory is wiped with every dive makes it even more doubtful to believe the way he aproaches each case (episode 3 where he dives over and over until the actual criminal just crawls in front of his path is another good example of just trial an error). Like I said it relies a lot on RNG and the suspension of disbelief to buy the idea that Sakaido finds the solution every time. It's pure plot contrivances.



It felt completely like an asspull to me. The way the whole team acted in a rushed manner without showing off how much time had passed since the girl was reported missing was just cheap. Not to mention, the way the SWAT team finds her body, it looks like she starved to death, not due to running out of oxygen and there's a whole other timline betweeing dying out of starvation than dying due to asphixiation.

Nieznajomy43 said:


ok. but still she would talk with friends or just her parents would tell that she disappeared unrealistic amount of time ago.

and don't need to be "need for attention" sometimes they just doing this for boredom or they have something to say (important or not), also Japanese children don't need attention? I would say they have a few problems in society like Kawaii culture.

Nieznajomy43 said:


ok. but still she would talk with friends or just her parents would tell that she disappeared unrealistic amount of time ago.

and don't need to be "need for attention" sometimes they just doing this for boredom or they have something to say (important or not), also Japanese children don't need attention? I would say they have a few problems in society like Kawaii culture.

Kimurah said:


Episode 4 pretty much proved that instinct and deduction meant squat. He used the backdraft as a trampoline to reach the bridge that conected the 2 seperate building blocks.
Also the thing that his memory is wiped with every dive makes it even more doubtful to believe the way he aproaches each case (episode 3 where he dives over and over until the actual criminal just crawls in front of his path is another good example of just trial an error). Like I said it relies a lot on RNG and the suspension of disbelief to buy the idea that Sakaido finds the solution every time. It's pure plot contrivances.

Kimurah said:


It felt completely like an asspull to me. The way the whole team acted in a rushed manner without showing off how much time had passed since the girl was reported missing was just cheap. Not to mention, the way the SWAT team finds her body, it looks like she starved to death, not due to running out of oxygen and there's a whole other timline betweeing dying out of starvation than dying due to asphixiation.

adbeaver said:
That ending... I swear this loli is eventually gonna get herself killed

Beichuuka said:

But he didn’t just “happen” upon the culprit in ep 3. At that point, he had already figured out that the tower was rotating. The man was crawling at a steady pace, to keep with the rotation, so that he can safely stay out of the gunshots while convincing others to move about. Sakaido I believe mentioned this man In passing earlier, as well, when he wondered whether the efforts of those crawling to get out of the line of gunfire was worth it, but obviously did not take notice that he could be the culprit.

Beichuuka said:


In Japan, girls of that age apparently often decide to 家出, the equivalent to awol from home. It’s known that there’s so many such cases that the police won’t even act on these reports unless there’s significant evidence of trouble since chasing down every one is simply impossible from a time standpoint.

Kimurah said:
Read what you just wrote. You're claiming that Sakaido didn't originally notice the guy crawling to allegedly stay away from the shots and in some absurd manner manage to lure the innocents into the sights of the shooter. That's exactly what it does mean to stumble with the culprit, he didn't find it out of deduction or reading the enviroment, he literally stumbled with him after repeated tries

But the show hasn't even stablished that this distopic place is even Japan. Why use such customs? And even if it was, why believe that it still carries such old customs in what it looks like a futuristic setting? This is exactly what bad writing stands for, expecting the audience to believe asspulls without proper grounding of the enviroment. A good writer would stablish how reliable is the work done by the local enforcers if these enforcers are to become part of the story. For instance, CSI stablished before hand how far would the corruption go within the police forces when the casino mobsters in Vegas would make their scandals go away with either money or just killing off whomever stood in their way. In contrast, this episode didn't stablish anything about the victim, about the timeline she was abducted, or corrected and stablished a proper date when she was abducted and how long had she been inside that barrel (you didn't even make a retort about how her body looked like she died out of starvation rather than asphixiation). It was all half assed in order to make the MC look cooler by solving the case once again ignoring the details that matter to make the story beliveable.

Beichuuka said:


Wtf are you talking about. The guy was crawling in circles the whole time. Sakaido noticed the man on multiple occasions, but only noted that he is the culprit after he realized that the tower is rotating.

Beichuuka said:

I’m sorry you weren’t the target audience, I guess? There’s no suspension of belief needed for me to think that this is Japan, or is it one very far in the future. The only over technology we’ve been made aware of are those related to the Well, and unless you’ve forgotten, the letters in Anaaki’s mental world spelled out takoya in hiragana. Thus I safely assume that Japanese common sense applies, as that is the sole target audience of this show. I’m sorry you aren’t so savvy in that department.
On the other hand I completely lack knowledge as to what a person who dies from asphyxiation or starvation looks like. As such I have no intent to argue along those lines.