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Is it easier to explain the entire history of anime than explaining the premise of certain anime?

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I've been thinking that there are certain anime where simply explaining the plot/premise when asked would be a fruitless endeavor, since it would just make people confused, asking "Why is it that way?" and with no frameworks to base their imaginations.
So I often think it's easier to just explain the entire material and ideological evolution of the traditions a certain anime is part of, so then it's premise just "comes naturally from the explanation".

Instead of trying to explain the plot/premise of Kannazuki no Miko, I find it easier to just explain the entire history of otaku culture and otaku-oriented media (Including it's origins in counter-culture, pornographic and fetishistic content as well as being built around fandom hyper-fixations) as well as moe.
I feel that then, everything will fall into place: "Oh, so THAT'S why there are giant robots, a small cat-girl nurse with a giant syringe, a banchou, a mangaka and a C-Tier idol in a girls love anime".

Do you feel the same?
11 hours ago
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I'll separate this into another comment, but it makes sense it is like this: It comes from the Japanese tradition of Haiku, of which in order to tell a story in such a short format, you would have sentences that made no sense on their own, but were actually references to other stories. (Think on how someone writing "The Rubicon was crossed" doesn't mean that someone physically crossed a specific river, but rather that they went through a "point-of-no-return".)
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No.

I always talk about the weirdest aspects of the anime first with no context. "Then in the movie she turns into a car" type shit. If you're weirded out or confused by it then you're not strong enough for actual anime (like 90% of it), go back to watch your Shonen Jump slop and come back later.
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i'd do the history of anime, explaining the plot of certain anime is just daunting, like maybe not to a fan who can accept anime's weirdness, but to your average non-fan, they'd probably look at me like i was a full on nutcase
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If I'm ever explaining a "very anime" show to a friend, including one who enjoys anime, I will typically either skip the parts that are bound to be confusing or just say it as a matter of fact. If any questions arise, I'll add in details, but otherwise I think people are capable of understanding that fiction sometimes is unusual and even nonsensical (even sometimes there is actually sense behind it all thats they might be unaware of).
11 hours ago
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Yeah, I don't think of any of my friends would appreciate that. They don't tend to come to me because they're wishing to attend one of my lectures.
I'm pretty good at tailoring communication with my friends individually, so I trust myself to be able to give a concise explanation of a particular show with focus on which aspects would appeal to the person I'm talking to.
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No. I don't need to read a single word of the OP to know the answer is no.
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thewiru said:
Do you feel the same?
Uh......no? You are either going to look like a weirdo or a prick introducing people to a medium in that way lol. Most anime do not need an "explanation" to understand or like it, and if they do....they aren't shows that you would give to people who aren't super invested into the medium anyway.
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Seems you hit a new high of obvious questions.
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This is a no for me as well, either skip potentially confusing parts or just talk about anime which are easy to understand like the 'mainstream shounen slop' you despise so much.
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"Is it easier to explain the entire history of anime than explaining the premise of certain anime?"

I mean, you can compress said history to 1. Early experiments, 2. Nazi propaganda and 3. The boom after Tezuka...or you can go with the actual details for months and months.


"Do you feel the same?"

No. You can simply say "Kannazuki no Miko is trash GL show, specifically targeted at japanese nerds. A time capsule of sorts.".
No need to explain every little thing about the otaku subculture from the period. People will figure it out on themselves...if they even bother to watch it.


"It comes from the Japanese tradition of Haiku, of which in order to tell a story in such a short format, you would have sentences that made no sense on their own, but were actually references to other stories. "

I mean, every culture has that especially in poetry. A more proper example of unexpected rule in Haiku is that you are obligated to reference the season in which the scene takes place, which can lead to some weird "japanese season specific onomatopoeias"... Now that will need some explanations.
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