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May 1, 2009 6:48 PM
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An alright episode, although none of the normal Gintama brilliance.

Story 5/5 | Action 3/5 | Sadness 3.5/5 | Comedy -/5

A well rounded off story, which was fitting for 2 episodes.

Although attempted, the action just wasn't what it could be. Probably because of the change of directors after the Itou arc (both old and new worked on that one.) IMO the Yoshiwara arc had the same problems, with the action not being as great as that of the Benizakura/Itou arcs, even though it was as good/better in the manga.

The sadness seemed too provoked with the flashbacks, and not that natural. Falls behind the levels shown in other episodes, such as 87, 130, and at times 153. Still alright though.
May 1, 2009 10:25 PM
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Yeah, I just wasn't feeling it. I always want more action, but nothing compares to the Benizakura/Itou Arcs. The animation seemed a bit different to me as well, but maybe that's just because I haven't watched any Gintama in a while.

Eh episode. Want moar Gintama D:


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May 2, 2009 11:08 AM
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boring
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May 2, 2009 12:39 PM
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I dunno. Something was off about this episode but it was still alright. Waiting for the next episode because I lol'd that chapter of the manga.

May 2, 2009 6:41 PM
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Well that was boring. The story felt overused and that yakuza guy was annoying. At least I know the next episode will make me laugh.
May 3, 2009 6:42 AM
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llamaben said:
Probably because of the change of directors after the Itou arc (both old and new worked on that one.)


Didn't know that yet, explains my notes for 104: why did the series get so gory? Itou conversion stupid. Bad arc conclusion.

I found this arc worse, and 108 downright bad. The series got darker and Gin-chan became superman. There's nothing original anymore, the irony's gone, we're left with average shounen fare.

The same happened to Keroro around 100, and I more or less dropped it around 120.

Well, Gintama already had a slump around 60, and recovered, so let's hope ^^
May 3, 2009 8:31 AM
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Lol, I really feel like an alien in this topic. Because I.. actually.. enjoyed it.. AAAAAHH!
I do agree the action has been better in the series, but I actually loved the twists and sentimental feelings. When that Nakamura guy died, I had a tear in my eye too T-T I guess I'm just a sucker for emotional scenes, no matter how many consider it cliche, lol.
May 4, 2009 1:47 AM
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This is the typical Gintama softy episode. The episode was alright but I need more action or better yet more comedy since that is what Gintama excels at
May 4, 2009 2:53 PM
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Hm, was an average episode. A little on the generic side, the typical Gintama two-episode-drama where the bad guy turns out good in the end, but sadly without humour or brilliance - and I already felt that there wasn't much effort put into the previous episode, what with all the repetition of frames and stuff. But! As always, they managed to drag a tear from my cold eyes at the ending. I'm such a sucker for Gintama melodrama.

Still looking forward to the next episode(s)! Yamazaki and Zura in one go, who could wish for more 8)
May 8, 2009 10:14 PM

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this episode is kinda interesting gonna go all out to watching this

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May 9, 2009 5:48 AM

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rawrs ~ haha very retardedly funny xD


May 11, 2009 4:54 AM

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How can they take such a good story and make it so fucking boring!? Oh well.
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Aug 31, 2009 6:55 AM
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I cried my eyes out. :(
Sep 30, 2009 4:16 PM

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Nice twisted plot
Nov 23, 2009 7:35 PM
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well i liked the story but i didnt like the action or comedy there wasnt any comedy so i cant really rate the comedy but the episodes needed some kind of comedy, action it was light but needed more if there wasnt gonna be comedy throughout like during benizakura/shinsengumi rebellion arcs but i really liked the story pretty sad but cool


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Apr 22, 2010 8:07 AM

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This little story was alirite. Not usual Gintama~cool though.
May 15, 2010 2:49 AM

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Poor aniki. ;__;
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Aug 13, 2010 7:19 AM

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Where's my comedy?!
Where is my Gintama? Meh arc if you ask me...
Nov 12, 2011 8:34 PM

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Ehh. Didn't have a "Gintama" feel to it.
Dec 11, 2011 12:23 AM

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ok, i love gintama a lot, but this downright sucked. i feel like gintama gets a little to dramatic/dry for its own good sometimes. if its not gonna be some huge arc like benizakura or yoshiwara then dont use it....these two episode arcs kill me. stick to the COMEDY pleaseeeeeeeeeee

and im sick of gintoki always helping out/the bad guy turning good. some originality please
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May 7, 2012 10:59 PM

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I thought it was a pretty good arc actually. And, the bad guy didn't just "suddenly" turn good. It was pretty obvious even in the previous episode that he wasn't "bad".
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Jul 25, 2012 1:32 PM

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I thought it was a pretty good arc actually. And, the bad guy didn't just "suddenly" turn good. It was pretty obvious even in the previous episode that he wasn't "bad".
yah i called that the second it took him a minute to reply to gintoki about killing the son.

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Dec 31, 2012 10:29 AM
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Lol, I really feel like an alien in this topic. Because I.. actually.. enjoyed it.. AAAAAHH!
I do agree the action has been better in the series, but I actually loved the twists and sentimental feelings. When that Nakamura guy died, I had a tear in my eye too T-T I guess I'm just a sucker for emotional scenes, no matter how many consider it cliche, lol.

I'm not the only one that feels this way!! Actually cried a bit at the end :'( Almost reminded me of
in One Piece, how he died with a smile on his face.
Mar 20, 2013 10:12 PM

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This show has a lot of serious arcs now and I think people are worried about losing their comedy at this point. No one should worry the best arcs are yet to come and a lot more comedy is on the way Gintama will always be about the same things it always has been! But about this arc it wasn't all that great except I love listening to Gin-chan's speeches so I enjoyed it.
May 5, 2013 8:08 PM

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That was a good short arc in Gintama, love it.
The fact that he didn't tell the boss about the his son committing suicide was a way of him being a Noble guardian dog in a way it's still protecting him.

What's with the hate with this arc? It wasn't even bland at all.
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Aug 24, 2013 2:00 PM

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A pretty dramatic episode and well it sure was a nice finish for this small arc! Lets see what happens next.
Aug 24, 2013 2:01 PM

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This show has a lot of serious arcs now and I think people are worried about losing their comedy at this point. No one should worry the best arcs are yet to come and a lot more comedy is on the way Gintama will always be about the same things it always has been! But about this arc it wasn't all that great except I love listening to Gin-chan's speeches so I enjoyed it.

No one is worried about that, its just this 2 part arc was kind of meh.

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Oct 28, 2013 12:35 PM
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tecu said:
Where's my comedy?!
Where is my Gintama? Meh arc if you ask me...

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Ehh. Didn't have a "Gintama" feel to it.

Tsura it's what Gintama needs.
Jan 19, 2014 7:38 PM

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So he suicided himself, uh. It was pretty obvious that he didn't killed the master son, he was always contradicting himself.

it was a good episode. Gintoki really is invincible or what? xD
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Apr 12, 2014 6:47 PM

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The only thing on my mind was: "Where are Gin-sans bandages?"
Jun 8, 2014 5:43 PM

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Not the best episode, but still entertaining. I didn't expect the son to have killed himself.
Oct 14, 2014 11:35 AM

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My eyes, they can't handle seeing Gintoki getting hurt so much. T_T

Although I'm saying the obvious but Shinpachi considers Gin as a family. ^^

Kyoujiro's past was really sad. :( But I wonder why he killed his own old man?

That Yakuza's son? Did he really went through the suicide route just because of his jealousy? Seriously?

This was...so much to see. I'm genuinely shocked Kyoujiro has gained my respect. This Yakuza is an honourable man.

Kyoujiro was like a lone wolf, he never wanted to see his adoptive father hurt. He was more of a real son than that Yakuza's biological son.

I'm shocked after watching this episode man...
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That Yakuza's son? Did he really went through the suicide route just because of his jealousy? Seriously?
Not jealousy, I think. He's not cut out to be a Yakuza and his father wanted to force him. He tried to go his own way, but again, his father forced him back. I think he may have thought that he'll never be able to live a non-Yakuza life and rather died.

I didn't think this arc was too bad, really. I think it's good to have something a bit more dramatic in between the comedy stuff (next episode is Yamazaki and Katsura, so it's bound to be funny).
But yeah, Gintokis magic healing powers went overboard.
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To be honest, I'm still a bit depressed after watching this short arc. Gintama always had the way to make my eyes tear out. It was not as bad as Shinsengumi rebellion arc (Itou reminded me on myself, so it made me cry even more ;_;), but it was awesome. When I've realized that guy was actually defending his old man, it made me touched and sad at the same moment. Maybe drama was a bit forced but hey, it's Gintama! Even if it's bad for few episodes, it will become better. Looking forward to seeing more Tama though. I've liked her, and she's definitively not getting enough screen time since her arc ended.
Music: 10/10 - Melancholic, sad OST is still ringing in my ear.
Action 8/10 - Since Shinsengumi rebellion arc is still fresh in my mind, this is just an usual Gintama battle. How the hell did Gintoki survived THAT tho?
Drama 9/10 - It was awesome, it was sad, and maybe a bit forced.
Humor 0/10 - Seriously, what the hell? Gintama is supposed to be funny, optimistic, making me cheerful. I'm depressed here!
Anyway, maybe a lenghty review of one episode but it was worth it. :D


*cried my eyes out*
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Nov 24, 2014 7:38 AM

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Action arc - meh. But it had some feels - decent episode.
Dec 12, 2014 5:51 PM

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Gintoki saw right thru him

Dec 31, 2014 5:07 AM

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It wasn't good. Fortunately, it took only 2 episodes. I'm missing Gintama vibes in this one.
Feb 9, 2015 3:26 AM
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Wow..did people dislike these 2 episodes so much? True, there was no comedy to it..which is what Gintama usually does..but I love serious episodes once in a while. Action..I don't really need a lot of action for a good story. I was happy with this. True, these 2 episodes were not as good as some previous arcs..but I still enjoyed it a lot. Also..generic? I sure as hell didn't predict what happened or was gonna happen..(Except for the whole Gin being fine thing). The back story came as a complete shock to me. This was a great episode in my opinion..well, I guess opinions differ. But telling the anime to completely stop episodes like these..is definitely not fine. I enjoy serious episodes in between.
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I didn't like this arc that much either... this episode had a few nice moments and a competent flashback, but it simply didn't resonate emotionally to me. Gintoki seemed totally out of place here. It felt forced to have him as the catalyst of the emotions in this arc. Of course he is the main character and I want this emotional involvement to be part of the series but his presence sometimes is too invasive (I thought the same with the Shinsengumi rebellion arc, for instance). In this case, there is very little chemistry between Komainu and Gintoki to talk about a strong enough emotional bond.
Apr 24, 2015 9:53 AM

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everyones trashing this episode but i thought it was good!! is it like all of the other softer episodes? yeah, because this anime doesnt have a plot so it has to be generic and sappy. i thought it was really dramatic and moving!!
May 23, 2015 12:36 PM

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Beautiful story, the episode was good. Not as good as the previous arc but still good. The come back of Gintoki was well done.
Jul 23, 2015 3:11 PM
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Good little arc, nice ending to the story and some feels.... Gintoki was a bro in this ep.
Sep 9, 2015 10:13 AM

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ALright episode, episodes with Katsura coming next.
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This was a nice little arc.

4/5
Feb 7, 2016 2:33 AM

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Cool arc. Liked it.
Apr 12, 2016 10:22 PM

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What a touching plot twist... I liked this mini arc :)
Apr 12, 2016 10:30 PM

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Gintama is killing me with this drama lately. Two arcs in a row ended with me wiping tears away from my eyes. Maybe this mini-arc wasn't among Gintama's best, but the sentimentalism was really touching... the episode ending with Kyojiro dead at his father's grave really got to me. I kind of figured Kyojiro hadn't actually killed the son, but I was still shocked when it'd shown he hung himself.

Needless to say, I'm really looking forward to some actual comedy after these last two arcs.



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Feb 27, 2017 2:17 PM

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Wow, that was really good, cool fight scenes.

Didn't really explain how Gin still lives though lol.

I'm surprised he wanted to save the guard dog, although he was cute but then he died anyway.
Apr 7, 2017 10:06 AM

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Nicely executed episode. Though i'm used to this kind of mini-arc from Gintama but it never cease to amaze me.
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aniki died 😭😭
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