coromandel said: vote: grrr coromandel said: I'm not sure about Karote anymore - his D1 vote for grrr looks like a classic scum move, but I think this is town-Karote we're dealing with here, based on meta. And I've changed my mind about grrr. He could actually be scum, who fake-claimed TPR. Kit's vote for him came pretty late, and she didn't really try to convince people to vote for grrr instead of herself. I'm thinking it was a mistake to assume grrr wouldn't fake claim when scum - this may apply to most people, but grrr is unpredictable. /edit: whisper also said something like "I'm not going to vote for grrr..." during D1, implying that he might be able to kill people on his train. [if I remember correctly] I'll see if I can find this post. I'm more than fine with this counter train. I was thinking that it might clear grrr but at the same time I know he's so unorthodox that you can't put anything by him and his team. Let us work try to get as much information out of him as we can because I would rather not bench out of paranoia. |
logic340Jul 17, 2017 3:34 PM
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| vote: grrr I approve. He needs to focus on someone other than Zymf. At this point, if the flips are all accurate, 99% sure Zymf is telling the truth. I had a little worry that Zymf's wincon to save someone from a lynch based on flavor might be to protect a partner in times of need, making him mafia, but I don't think that's the case anymore. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
| Informative roles have remained mum. That means they're either playing greedily or have found jack. Give it another phase I guess. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| Can people explain to me why they were giving grr a town pass up until now? Then maybe votes on that slot will be justified. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
LucianRoy said: Informative roles have remained mum. That means they're either playing greedily or have found jack. Give it another phase I guess. I'm not considering the possibility of no informative roles being in this game because that would make it incredibly scum-sided just from a numbers standpoint imo. Still suprised we have no conf town d3. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
LucianRoy said: Can people explain to me why they were giving grr a town pass up until now? Then maybe votes on that slot will be justified. Well, I wasn't day 1, but when Kit flipped scum, I thought it was unlikely for both to be scum. But I've always found his thing against Zymf strange. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
LucianRoy said: Can people explain to me why they were giving grr a town pass up until now? Then maybe votes on that slot will be justified. I've explained it so many times already. >.> Do you have an idea what whisper meant here? lastwhisper31 said: Also let's not forget there's still a very thin line between who is with grrr and who is with Zymf. RE1031 said: But he also hopped off it, well, pretty late, but there were a lot of options to go for besides Abu. I don't see why one vote clears him, especially when he's one of the more suspicious players. To me, it looks like he was okay with Abu being lynched at that time. He tied the votes, and only changed his vote to Skittles at the end of the day. lastwhisper31 said: I guess me voting for Zymf kinda seems like taking the easy way out, and trying to find someone to lynch, but Im not stupid, take this as you will, but im not going to, as mafia, try to jump onto the first claim I see. I genuinely just atm didnt want to just completely believe that post, because it could have been easily reworded. The only reason I even made him my first vote was because @TheConquerer thought the same as me so Hey maybe i wasnt crazy. Or maybe his role post is all a complete lie and dont tell me that not a possibility. Both Lamby and Coro jumped at me for that vote because I guess its already been confirmed somehow that Zymf is really a good tpr, so god forbid I think differently. As for Conquerer, I'm completely on his side, I trust the reasoning behind his initial vote and his vote change to grr. My vote will stay on Coro, she attacked Conquerers original reasoning for his vote on Zymf, even though I thought it was decent, which is why I went a long with it, and then attacked him when he switched to Grrr, which seems to be the "you must for him or your scum" kinda deal. And now all of a sudden hes ok with Conquerer and I became his vote, I mean I guess I can spend all game proving my innocence like last game, I dont mind. One thing I will not do is vote for Grrr, Lets just says hypothectically speaking Grrr really is an evil tpr, and by putting all this spotlight on himself he believes that he might just end up clearing himself, I just dont believe that, like I said before, Grrr is a troll, but not a stupid troll. After reading the bolded part I'm pretty sure whisper was mafia. Or am I reading too much into it? "I guess me voting for Zymf kinda seems like taking the easy way out, and trying to find someone to lynch, but Im not stupid, take this as you will, but im not going to, as mafia, try to jump onto the first claim I see. I genuinely just atm didnt want to just completely believe that post, because it could have been easily reworded." ^ added this, to highlight the parts I find suspicious. Thoughts? |
Because I'm town? And I wasn't roleblocked. |
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Zymf said: Shinichi-kun was co-host in my Psycho-Pass game which was really bastard and had only 1 bad guy who was the Serial Killer. I suspect Shinichi-kun might have taken some inspiration from my game when he designed this game, but made it somewhat a polar opposite with lots and lots of scum popping up everywhere? My game was already finished before your game was hosted and even then i hadnt full read up on the bastard factors or how the sk fully played out. |
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| We should really lynch Karote today. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| Numbers. 8-9 town left. 1-2 groupsucm dead. 1 tpr dead. 0-1-2 possible conversions. At worst, 8 town alive, 5 total scum alive. At best, 9 town alive, 2 total scum left. This is the range in which we're playing. This is an estimate of how bastard the game is. This is an estimate of how non-bastard the game is also. D3, town lynch, 7 town alive, 2 group scum alive, 1 tpr, 2 possible alignment conversions, couple days to solve the game. D3, scum lynch, 8 town alive, 1 group scum alive, 1 tpr, etc. D3, town lynch, 8 town alive, 1 group scum, 1 tpr, many days to solve the game. D3, scum lynch, town and remaing tpr win. Allegedly. If the town isn't dumb, and this game isn't extremely bastard, we basically have this game in the bag by the numbers alone. There's a till a chance town loses, but boy would we have to suck. Even in worst case scenario. Too many hypotheticals and far too much wine for anything to be conclusive surrounding Last from where I sit. Specifically surrounding his interactions. I'm OK with people pushing grr because karma. We should end up lynching Karote. PoE lynch-pool for today: Karote-> grr-> lamb -> floofs -> logic People we're not lynching unless something compelling arises Coro, RE, abu, yurkin, and I guess Zymf. No PRs have stepped forward except logic, and that was only to say he was PR. No town have been confirmed though night actions, (or at least, nothing has been revealed about them). And did I mention, we should lynch Karote today. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
LucianRoy said: I'm good with all of this but why am I a better lunch options I than Zymf (who is a claimed tpr)?Numbers. 8-9 town left. 1-2 groupsucm dead. 1 tpr dead. 0-1-2 possible conversions. At worst, 8 town alive, 5 total scum alive. At best, 9 town alive, 2 total scum left. This is the range in which we're playing. This is an estimate of how bastard the game is. This is an estimate of how non-bastard the game is also. D3, town lynch, 7 town alive, 2 group scum alive, 1 tpr, 2 possible alignment conversions, couple days to solve the game. D3, scum lynch, 8 town alive, 1 group scum alive, 1 tpr, etc. D3, town lynch, 8 town alive, 1 group scum, 1 tpr, many days to solve the game. D3, scum lynch, town and remaing tpr win. Allegedly. If the town isn't dumb, and this game isn't extremely bastard, we basically have this game in the bag by the numbers alone. There's a till a chance town loses, but boy would we have to suck. Even in worst case scenario. Too many hypotheticals and far too much wine for anything to be conclusive surrounding Last from where I sit. Specifically surrounding his interactions. I'm OK with people pushing grr because karma. We should end up lynching Karote. PoE lynch-pool for today: Karote-> grr-> lamb -> floofs -> logic People we're not lynching unless something compelling arises Coro, RE, abu, yurkin, and I guess Zymf. No PRs have stepped forward except logic, and that was only to say he was PR. No town have been confirmed though night actions, (or at least, nothing has been revealed about them). And did I mention, we should lynch Karote today. I know some of you think I was converted but I was not and outside of wine doing over it there is nothing there. Edit in no way an I suggesting we lynch zymf but I'm curious why I'm a higher priority? |
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LucianRoy said: I mean my actions and being targeted by 2 scum should have confirmed me? At least I would think?LucianRoy said: Informative roles have remained mum. That means they're either playing greedily or have found jack. Give it another phase I guess. I'm not considering the possibility of no informative roles being in this game because that would make it incredibly scum-sided just from a numbers standpoint imo. Still suprised we have no conf town d3. My role is a killing role that is informative take that for what you will. Took me until night two to figure out how I'll actually be able to use it effectively. Used it night one but was Roleblocked, didn't use it last night for fear being role blocked by the to scum in the dead chat Edit typo |
logic340Jul 17, 2017 6:15 PM
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logic340 said: Edit in no way an I suggesting we lynch zymf but I'm curious why I'm a higher priority? Pretty much only because of the posibility of you being converted. logic340 said: LucianRoy said: I mean my actions and being targeted by 2 scum should have confirmed me? At least I would think?I'm not considering the possibility of no informative roles being in this game because that would make it incredibly scum-sided just from a numbers standpoint imo. Still suprised we have no conf town d3. My role is a killing role that is informative take that for what you will. Took me until night two to figure out how I'll actually be able to use it effectively. Used it night one but was Roleblocked, didn't use it last night for fear being roll blocked by the to scum in the dead chat Informative and killing? Joat. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
logic340 said: Nopewere any of you Role locked last night? |
| So maybe we are lynching grrr today? Fine with me. Vote: grrr What is your flavor role? And why did you want to fake-counterclaim me? Pretty accurate O.o (Also 'cuz of limited shots) |
Zymf said: not joat. I was Jack of all trades and stray dogs I know how to use that one.So maybe we are lynching grrr today? Fine with me. Vote: grrr What is your flavor role? And why did you want to fake-counterclaim me? Pretty accurate O.o (Also 'cuz of limited shots) Edit: @LucianRoy |
logic340Jul 17, 2017 7:05 PM
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| @Shinichi-kun if no consensus is reached in the dead chat what happens to the roleblock? Does it happen randomly or does it not happen at all? @AbuHumaid, @grrr, @Floofs, @Laby-Gaga were any of you Role locked last night? Says they were not role blocked: Logic340 LucianRoy RE1031 coromandel Yurkin Karote Zymf |
| Proud Administrator of the D Gray Man FC and OnePunch-Man FC |
| Not everyone might have an active role, so there's the possibility they weren't even informed they were blocked. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
LucianRoy said: Not everyone might have an active role, so there's the possibility they weren't even informed they were blocked. This statement is true, well the situation is atleast. In any game i host people who aren't actually effected by roleblocks will not be informed of them. |
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logic340 said: @Shinichi-kun if no consensus is reached in the dead chat what happens to the roleblock? Does it happen randomly or does it not happen at all? @AbuHumaid, @grrr, @Floofs, @Laby-Gaga were any of you Role locked last night? Says they were not role blocked: Logic340 LucianRoy RE1031 coromandel Yurkin Karote Zymf no |
Shinichi-Kun said: Fair enough thank you kind sir.LucianRoy said: Not everyone might have an active role, so there's the possibility they weren't even informed they were blocked. This statement is true, well the situation is atleast. In any game i host people who aren't actually effected by roleblocks will not be informed of them. |
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| @Floofs thoughts" the whisper flip? Who are you willing to vote for right now? have you become Wendigo or The Beast? |
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logic340 said: @Shinichi-kun if no consensus is reached in the dead chat what happens to the roleblock? Does it happen randomly or does it not happen at all? @AbuHumaid, @grrr, @Floofs, @Laby-Gaga were any of you Role locked last night? Says they were not role blocked: Logic340 LucianRoy RE1031 coromandel Yurkin Karote Zymf If a tie happens or no one votes, then no one gets roleblocked. |
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Vote Count 3.0 Grrr (3)-Coro, Re1031, Zymf Karote (2)-Lucian, Logic Not Voting: flofs, lamby, grrr, Yurkin, Karote, Abu, |
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logic340 said: @Floofs thoughts" the whisper flip? Who are you willing to vote for right now? have you become Wendigo or The Beast? It hurts my head. I dont think mafia would kill one of their own. I think whisp may have been killed by the beast since it says that the beast doesn't remember what happens at night, so maybe a kill is rng. But then why would there not be a second kill from the mafia? Were they roleblocked by the dead. That doesn't really make sense though since it is kit, conq and skittles. Maybe town has a protective role and protected the target of the night kill. Karote or grr I did not become either. |
logic340 said: @Shinichi-kun if no consensus is reached in the dead chat what happens to the roleblock? Does it happen randomly or does it not happen at all? @AbuHumaid, @grrr, @Floofs, @Laby-Gaga were any of you Role locked last night? Says they were not role blocked: Logic340 LucianRoy RE1031 coromandel Yurkin Karote Zymf Well fuck, I got roleblocked. Was there any difference in flavour/wording for N1? Mine simply states that I was roleblocked, nothing about being haunted or any shit. Edit: No idea why I'd be a priority. |
| Honestly not surprised about either of those flips for D2 and N2 come the end of the day and what I missed. Asides from the fact that went through.... so it is a worry in the back of ones mind that there might be some other source messing with flips on top of the fact its only faction reveal. |
| Vote: Carrot Sheep fast, sheep hard. |
LucianRoy said: We should really lynch Karote today. No worry, I will claim later and you will change your mind. |
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Floofs said: logic340 said: @Floofs thoughts" the whisper flip? Who are you willing to vote for right now? have you become Wendigo or The Beast? It hurts my head. I dont think mafia would kill one of their own. I think whisp may have been killed by the beast since it says that the beast doesn't remember what happens at night, so maybe a kill is rng. But then why would there not be a second kill from the mafia? Were they roleblocked by the dead. That doesn't really make sense though since it is kit, conq and skittles. Maybe town has a protective role and protected the target of the night kill. Karote or grr I did not become either. And who do you think are most likely to vote for? |
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Karote said: LucianRoy said: We should really lynch Karote today. No worry, I will claim later and you will change your mind. Claim while it actually matters, cheers~ |
On another note, I like how your sig is basically just licking a spoon and my username in my language means spoon. |
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Karote said: On another note, I like how your sig is basically just licking a spoon and my username in my language means spoon. or so you claim *cough* |
Laby-Gaga said: logic340 said: @Shinichi-kun if no consensus is reached in the dead chat what happens to the roleblock? Does it happen randomly or does it not happen at all? @AbuHumaid, @grrr, @Floofs, @Laby-Gaga were any of you Role locked last night? Says they were not role blocked: Logic340 LucianRoy RE1031 coromandel Yurkin Karote Zymf Well fuck, I got roleblocked. Was there any difference in flavour/wording for N1? Mine simply states that I was roleblocked, nothing about being haunted or any shit. Edit: No idea why I'd be a priority. :D coz lambyga, what better reason needed lmao. |
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yurkin said: Laby-Gaga said: Well fuck, I got roleblocked. Was there any difference in flavour/wording for N1? Mine simply states that I was roleblocked, nothing about being haunted or any shit. Edit: No idea why I'd be a priority. :D coz lambyga, what better reason needed lmao. What happened to your kill last night :S? |
Laby-Gaga said: What happened to your kill last night :S? Did you screw your kill last night lambyga :s ? Too bad i'm not a killing role :D |
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yurkin said: Laby-Gaga said: What happened to your kill last night :S? Did you screw your kill last night lambyga :s ? Too bad i'm not a killing role :D Technically, maybe. Don't need to explain it right now, but I was actually hoping to get someone killed. |
| My character name is Jia Ling I get a herb at the end of every night phase but I started off with one originally. The herb lets me protect a player, so I'm the town doctor. I can protect many players at once depending how many herbs I have in use. N1 - Didn't protect anyone N2 - Protected coromandel & RE1031 (because I townread them both) |
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Karote said: My character name is Jia Ling I get a herb at the end of every night phase but I started off with one originally. The herb lets me protect a player, so I'm the town doctor. I can protect many players at once depending how many herbs I have in use. N1 - Didn't protect anyone N2 - Protected coromandel & RE1031 (because I townread them both) Hmmmmm seems odd as a role, but might be well placed. This is assuming TPR activation and more potential night kills after a set point in the game, sadly I didn't get to check for this last night. This means I can't place much faith in this, but it's also far from optimal to test it via breaking of said neck. |
| Side note doe.... why even claim with such a role? |
Karote said: Well hello there my dearest. I'm your protecter from all the horrors hidden within this forrest and if anything bad happens to you, I will loose the game.My character name is Jia Ling So yea. Karote is my target, so don't touch him! @Town if you lynch him, I will side with the mafia to get my revenge so don't. @Mafia if you kill him at night, I will never end game with you so don't. @TPR idk, just don't. I hope that will be effective.. |
Zymf said: Karote said: Well hello there my dearest. I'm your protecter from all the horrors hidden within this forrest and if anything bad happens to you, I will loose the game.My character name is Jia Ling So yea. Karote is my target, so don't touch him! @Town if you lynch him, I will side with the mafia to get my revenge so don't. @Mafia if you kill him at night, I will never end game with you so don't. @TPR idk, just don't. I hope that will be effective.. Can we just lynch you? |
Laby-Gaga said: Side note doe.... why even claim with such a role? Because people are inclined to lynch me? :thinking: Zymf said: Karote said: Well hello there my dearest. I'm your protecter from all the horrors hidden within this forrest and if anything bad happens to you, I will loose the game.My character name is Jia Ling So yea. Karote is my target, so don't touch him! @Town if you lynch him, I will side with the mafia to get my revenge so don't. @Mafia if you kill him at night, I will never end game with you so don't. @TPR idk, just don't. I hope that will be effective.. Oh .. nice. |
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Laby-Gaga said: Zymf said: Well hello there my dearest. I'm your protecter from all the horrors hidden within this forrest and if anything bad happens to you, I will loose the game. So yea. Karote is my target, so don't touch him! @Town if you lynch him, I will side with the mafia to get my revenge so don't. @Mafia if you kill him at night, I will never end game with you so don't. @TPR idk, just don't. I hope that will be effective.. Can we just lynch you? and are you BP at this point? |
Karote said: Laby-Gaga said: Side note doe.... why even claim with such a role? Because people are inclined to lynch me? :thinking: Zymf said: Well hello there my dearest. I'm your protecter from all the horrors hidden within this forrest and if anything bad happens to you, I will loose the game. So yea. Karote is my target, so don't touch him! @Town if you lynch him, I will side with the mafia to get my revenge so don't. @Mafia if you kill him at night, I will never end game with you so don't. @TPR idk, just don't. I hope that will be effective.. Oh .. nice. False claims would have been preferred. I hope you have a plan for living beyond this phase at-least. |
Zymf said: Karote said: Well hello there my dearest. I'm your protecter from all the horrors hidden within this forrest and if anything bad happens to you, I will loose the game.My character name is Jia Ling So yea. Karote is my target, so don't touch him! @Town if you lynch him, I will side with the mafia to get my revenge so don't. @Mafia if you kill him at night, I will never end game with you so don't. @TPR idk, just don't. I hope that will be effective.. Haha thats so fun, mafia and tpr mainly, skittles was tpr, addressing to your own self there. edit: oh wait town part great as well. |
yurkinJul 18, 2017 3:25 AM
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| @yurkin logic340 for one might have become TPR. Or there could be other alignment-changing effects that results in more than 2 TPR. The setup is "High powered and swingy" afterall. @Laby-Gaga No don't lynch me either... And what about BP? Do you plan on shooting me tonight? |
Zymf said: @yurkin logic340 for one might have become TPR. Or there could be other alignment-changing effects that results in more than 2 TPR. The setup is "High powered and swingy" afterall. @Laby-Gaga No don't lynch me either... And what about BP? Do you plan on shooting me tonight? Was wondering if you were the beast lol which I assumed to be BP either after a set point or during specific nights, I don't see how it would work as a targeted conversion/transformation so I cut Logic out of the equation and the other TPR flip that already went down, given that I can't see said role as Mafio. Small chance of town and being negative under set circumstances but not my first bet. and nope, I wasted my ability last night attempting to target you but got blocked out -______- |
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