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Jan 28, 2018 5:19 AM

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ironace said:
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@ironace Do you not have a helpful active as well?

yes i do. But it cant really be considered helpful if i just aim blindly...


I mean why would u do it blindly?


Jan 28, 2018 5:20 AM

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RE1031 said:
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Why shouldn't Shinichi-kun just roleblock who he thinks the scum are?


So we can confirm it? I suppose if I'm already confirmed, that confirms Shinichi, though. I figured just in case something happens, it would be better to confirm both. Your point is reasonable though.
Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths,
Enwrought with golden and silver light,
The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
Of night and light and the half light,
I would spread the cloths under your feet:
But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.


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Jan 28, 2018 5:20 AM

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ScarletCelestial said:
@osieorb18 You're Desperado?

Why are you certain that RE and wisp are Town?

I don't agree that ash should target ace. He might be something like Mafia Vengeful which is why he's baiting.

Why do believe Karote is problematic?

I'm willing to claim my role starting tomorrow, but only if Shin doesn't RB me tonight.


that's a bold statement to make, where is the cintext?


Jan 28, 2018 5:20 AM

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@osieorb18

By limiting Shin to that group if there is mafia outside that, highly likely, then they could just do the factional kill instead.
Jan 28, 2018 5:21 AM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
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@osieorb18 You're Desperado?

Why are you certain that RE and wisp are Town?

I don't agree that ash should target ace. He might be something like Mafia Vengeful which is why he's baiting.

Why do believe Karote is problematic?

I'm willing to claim my role starting tomorrow, but only if Shin doesn't RB me tonight.


that's a bold statement to make, where is the cintext?


???
Jan 28, 2018 5:21 AM

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osieorb18 said:
Vote: Karote


seems my buddy would rather go for an unknown factor like karote which honestly as much as I do want to sort out all the claims he seems like someone that would be a good lynch at this point

vote: karote


Jan 28, 2018 5:21 AM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
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now that i think about it... logic would have not picked Shinichi.... hmmm... but if what osie claimed is true then logic used ability to verify Shinichi since he seemed to always roll scum. logic would have caught scum right away? How is this even be mechanically possible?

@osieorb18 can you explain pls? Ill attempt to humor this modgaming shenanigans.


explain if hypothetically I am scum how would the town masonizer have caught me?
i need osie to answer this. From what I understand, in case you were scum and during pregame logic chose you to be mason with. The masoning would fail and logic has to choose another one. That would mean logic would already caught you as scum during pregame which is ridiculous.

I wanted osie to explain more how his role works because he is like riku being a neighbourizer but during pregame while riku is night action.

I am humoring modgaming to get a better sense because this could just be shenanigans.

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Jan 28, 2018 5:23 AM

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ScarletCelestial said:
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that's a bold statement to make, where is the cintext?


???


bad wording, why are u afraid of me roleblocking you?


Jan 28, 2018 5:24 AM

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osieorb18 said:
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Why shouldn't Shinichi-kun just roleblock who he thinks the scum are?


So we can confirm it? I suppose if I'm already confirmed, that confirms Shinichi, though. I figured just in case something happens, it would be better to confirm both. Your point is reasonable though.
I don't have trouble believing Shinichi is the roleblocker.
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
Jan 28, 2018 5:25 AM

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ScarletCelestial said:
@osieorb18 You're Desperado?

Why are you certain that RE and wisp are Town?

I don't agree that ash should target ace. He might be something like Mafia Vengeful which is why he's baiting.

Why do believe Karote is problematic?

I'm willing to claim my role starting tomorrow, but only if Shin doesn't RB me tonight.


I'm not completely certain on Wisp, but I'm willing to forgive more there since I know he's naturally scummy, and I think he's been pretty good this game. Re's behavior has struck me as screaming town so hard it hurts. Mafia vengeful/bomb is a point of concern. Dang. I guess Abhu should just target Wisp or decide something reasonable among uncleared on his lonesome.

I'm not convinced on you, though you've had some decent posts. I'm kinda down with @Re1031's idea for Shinichi actually, now that I think about it.
Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths,
Enwrought with golden and silver light,
The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
Of night and light and the half light,
I would spread the cloths under your feet:
But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.


- WB Yeats
Jan 28, 2018 5:27 AM
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Vote Count 2.6

riku(3): Ruu, abhutrash, ScarletCelestial
ironace(3): Karote, DenjaX, RE1031
Karote(3): osieorb18, ironace, Shinichi-Kun
osieorb18(1): riku


Players not voting: lastwhisper31, Pokeit

Mod notes: Tied votes will lead to an RNG lynch
between all players.


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Jan 28, 2018 5:27 AM

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ScarletCelestial said:
@osieorb18 You're Desperado?

Why are you certain that RE and wisp are Town?

I don't agree that ash should target ace. He might be something like Mafia Vengeful which is why he's baiting.

Why do believe Karote is problematic?

I'm willing to claim my role starting tomorrow, but only if Shin doesn't RB me tonight.

wait..
shin is roleblocker?
Jan 28, 2018 5:27 AM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
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???


bad wording, why are u afraid of me roleblocking you?


It's to do with half my role, can't talk about it until tomorrow.
Jan 28, 2018 5:28 AM

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DenjaX said:
i need osie to answer this. From what I understand, in case you were scum and during pregame logic chose you to be mason with. The masoning would fail and logic has to choose another one. That would mean logic would already caught you as scum during pregame which is ridiculous.


No, Logic only had one opportunity. If the masonry failed, he'd have one probably confirmed scum (or Miller) that he could either shoot or just call out to try to lynch. And at that point, it's based on who believes him.
Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths,
Enwrought with golden and silver light,
The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
Of night and light and the half light,
I would spread the cloths under your feet:
But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.


- WB Yeats
Jan 28, 2018 5:28 AM

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Wait. Why is Ruu on the riku train when she thought he was Town?
Jan 28, 2018 5:29 AM

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osieorb18 said:
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Welp, I honestly dont know who to vote so i guess ill follow you.
vote:karote

side question, how can my ''junture'' hurt town?


The possibilities as I saw it:

1a. Vengeful - Kill a player when you die - More likely to hit town.
1b. Bomb - Kill the person who killed/hammered when you die - More likely to hit town given your description.
2. Virgin (Could stop lynch and/or following nightkill. If stops lynch, that's bad, obviously.)
3. Jester (Please no.)
u have no idea how much i want to play the jester :(
Anyway, i can gurantee that it WILL help town. only if im killed though. And the trigger is by someone who is town. even in town it seems to have some conditions.
Jan 28, 2018 5:30 AM

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some one tell me.
WTF is it with shin and role blockeR?
wasnt he mason only?
Jan 28, 2018 5:30 AM

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Vote: Ruu

Still resolves the Neighbour thing, finding it weird that she voted riku.
Jan 28, 2018 5:31 AM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
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your pregame bull. Distasteful modgaming where none of us could really confirm this happening. Hence, taking that with a grain of salt.


not a fan of you talking about mod gaming or any type of gaming that requires manipulation, when ur one of those who does it like every game. How could u confirm the latter anyways it's only alignment real?
so you are discrediting me because of my meta? Am I even doing that this game?

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Jan 28, 2018 5:31 AM

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someone tell me shit
Jan 28, 2018 5:32 AM

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ironace said:
osieorb18 said:


The possibilities as I saw it:

1a. Vengeful - Kill a player when you die - More likely to hit town.
1b. Bomb - Kill the person who killed/hammered when you die - More likely to hit town given your description.
2. Virgin (Could stop lynch and/or following nightkill. If stops lynch, that's bad, obviously.)
3. Jester (Please no.)
u have no idea how much i want to play the jester :(
Anyway, i can gurantee that it WILL help town. only if im killed though. And the trigger is by someone who is town.


So it's either a virgin who only stops NK, something unique from those, or you're not being truthful.
Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths,
Enwrought with golden and silver light,
The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
Of night and light and the half light,
I would spread the cloths under your feet:
But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.


- WB Yeats
Jan 28, 2018 5:32 AM

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ScarletCelestial said:
Vote: Ruu

Still resolves the Neighbour thing, finding it weird that she voted riku.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind voting back here. But what do you make of her doc claim? It's the only thing I'm stuck on.
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
Jan 28, 2018 5:33 AM

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ScarletCelestial said:
Vote: Ruu

Still resolves the Neighbour thing, finding it weird that she voted riku.


Why not just let it resolve tonight?
Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths,
Enwrought with golden and silver light,
The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
Of night and light and the half light,
I would spread the cloths under your feet:
But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.


- WB Yeats
Jan 28, 2018 5:35 AM

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ironace said:
someone tell me shit


Logic masonized Shinichi, who was a town roleblocker.
That mason shot was pregame, but I can still kill scum (or die if I'm wrong, unless miller interacts different; mod did not say).

Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths,
Enwrought with golden and silver light,
The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
Of night and light and the half light,
I would spread the cloths under your feet:
But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.


- WB Yeats
Jan 28, 2018 5:36 AM

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osieorb18 said:
ironace said:
u have no idea how much i want to play the jester :(
Anyway, i can gurantee that it WILL help town. only if im killed though. And the trigger is by someone who is town.


So it's either a virgin who only stops NK, something unique from those, or you're not being truthful.


i forgot to ask. wtf is a virgin?I have never heard of this role before.
Also, sine ur the only one who is talking to me :(
tell me what is up with shin and roleblocking.wasnt he supposed to be the mason only or something.
Jan 28, 2018 5:36 AM

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osieorb18 said:
DenjaX said:
i need osie to answer this. From what I understand, in case you were scum and during pregame logic chose you to be mason with. The masoning would fail and logic has to choose another one. That would mean logic would already caught you as scum during pregame which is ridiculous.


No, Logic only had one opportunity. If the masonry failed, he'd have one probably confirmed scum (or Miller) that he could either shoot or just call out to try to lynch. And at that point, it's based on who believes him.
i need to wrap my head with this because im ready to call shenanigans here. Knowing whos scum before the game EVEN started is too OP. Even if it is only 1 scum, it is hella good trade, leaving scum at disadvantage before they could even post the thread and the poor scum cannot even hide and already has to talk their way through.

If anything, your role should be mafia aligned.

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Jan 28, 2018 5:37 AM

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osieorb18 said:
ironace said:
someone tell me shit


Logic masonized Shinichi, who was a town roleblocker.
That mason shot was pregame, but I can still kill scum (or die if I'm wrong, unless miller interacts different; mod did not say).

wait like....logic chose shin to be his partner and if he was scum he wouldve died?
Jan 28, 2018 5:38 AM

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@ironace
You're telling us you'd rather be night killed than lynched because your passive will do more good for town once you're killed?
Then I don't actually see the harm in you full claiming. Unless I'm missing something, what does scum have got to gain by also knowing what your role is? (Anyone can answer)
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
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ironace said:
osieorb18 said:


So it's either a virgin who only stops NK, something unique from those, or you're not being truthful.


i forgot to ask. wtf is a virgin?I have never heard of this role before.
Also, sine ur the only one who is talking to me :(
tell me what is up with shin and roleblocking.wasnt he supposed to be the mason only or something.
virgin is a role that blocks night kill or phase if the role dies.

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Jan 28, 2018 5:38 AM

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ok i dont care what others think about this.
I am the role blocker for town. So this means shin and logic are both lying and are scum
vote:shin
Jan 28, 2018 5:39 AM

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lol seems like I have the final say in who to lynch based lm the votes and my doublevote. I'm getting home to my computer 5 and I'll make my decision shortly after.
Jan 28, 2018 5:39 AM

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there cant be 2 roleblockers for town.
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DenjaX said:
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No, Logic only had one opportunity. If the masonry failed, he'd have one probably confirmed scum (or Miller) that he could either shoot or just call out to try to lynch. And at that point, it's based on who believes him.
i need to wrap my head with this because im ready to call shenanigans here. Knowing whos scum before the game EVEN started is too OP. Even if it is only 1 scum, it is hella good trade, leaving scum at disadvantage before they could even post the thread and the poor scum cannot even hide and already has to talk their way through.

If anything, your role should be mafia aligned.


it's no different than a cult trying to convert a mafia then failing, it's basically a free cop check at the same time


Jan 28, 2018 5:40 AM

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ironace said:
someone tell me shit
tell me you are not giving up this game. Otherwise, you need to either claim or become my sheepvoter. Your call. I could use your vote xDD

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RE1031 said:
@ironace
You're telling us you'd rather be night killed than lynched because your passive will do more good for town once you're killed?
Then I don't actually see the harm in you full claiming. Unless I'm missing something, what does scum have got to gain by also knowing what your role is? (Anyone can answer)

I havent fully claimed but there it is.believe me or not. ur choice.
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DenjaX said:
ironace said:
someone tell me shit
tell me you are not giving up this game. Otherwise, you need to either claim or become my sheepvoter. Your call. I could use your vote xDD
read ffs
Jan 28, 2018 5:41 AM

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ironace said:
ok i dont care what others think about this.
I am the role blocker for town. So this means shin and logic are both lying and are scum
vote:shin


who did u roleblock then?


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ironace said:
osieorb18 said:


So it's either a virgin who only stops NK, something unique from those, or you're not being truthful.


i forgot to ask. wtf is a virgin?I have never heard of this role before.
Also, sine ur the only one who is talking to me :(
tell me what is up with shin and roleblocking.wasnt he supposed to be the mason only or something.


Virgin stops the next lynch and/or NK when they die.
Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths,
Enwrought with golden and silver light,
The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
Of night and light and the half light,
I would spread the cloths under your feet:
But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.


- WB Yeats
Jan 28, 2018 5:42 AM

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ironace said:
osieorb18 said:


Logic masonized Shinichi, who was a town roleblocker.
That mason shot was pregame, but I can still kill scum (or die if I'm wrong, unless miller interacts different; mod did not say).

wait like....logic chose shin to be his partner and if he was scum he wouldve died?


No, Logic chose Shin. If Shin was scum, nothing would have happened, confirming Shin to be scum to Logic only; basically a 1-shot cop instead of mason.
Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths,
Enwrought with golden and silver light,
The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
Of night and light and the half light,
I would spread the cloths under your feet:
But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.


- WB Yeats
Jan 28, 2018 5:42 AM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
DenjaX said:
i need to wrap my head with this because im ready to call shenanigans here. Knowing whos scum before the game EVEN started is too OP. Even if it is only 1 scum, it is hella good trade, leaving scum at disadvantage before they could even post the thread and the poor scum cannot even hide and already has to talk their way through.

If anything, your role should be mafia aligned.


it's no different than a cult trying to convert a mafia then failing, it's basically a free cop check at the same time
it is imbalanced if mafia has no counter to it. Heck, pregame cop check is hella OP and avoids roleblock because there is no such thing as pregame phase.

unvote

@ironace im off your back. Lets do this

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ironace said:
ok i dont care what others think about this.
I am the role blocker for town. So this means shin and logic are both lying and are scum
vote:shin


who did u roleblock then?

my shots are unlimited. i didnt know who to block last night so i just thought that usually there is one scum inactive so i rb-ed yatchy. -or so i asked abu to do so. I didnt get any confirmation
Jan 28, 2018 5:43 AM

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I am just being ignored :(


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ironace said:
ok i dont care what others think about this.
I am the role blocker for town. So this means shin and logic are both lying and are scum
vote:shin


(I replaced logic)

Umm, what? I don't believe you. This only adds to my suspicion that you're trying to get yourself lynched for nefarious purposes.
Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths,
Enwrought with golden and silver light,
The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
Of night and light and the half light,
I would spread the cloths under your feet:
But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.


- WB Yeats
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@re1031 anyway u can confirm This?


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ironace said:
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who did u roleblock then?

my shots are unlimited. i didnt know who to block last night so i just thought that usually there is one scum inactive so i rb-ed yatchy. -or so i asked abu to do so. I didnt get any confirmation
I wasn't notified but my ability starts off passive (and is currently active).
ironace, I'm a little annoyed you weren't paying attention earlier. Shinichi/osie claimed Shinichi was roleblocker ages ago.
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
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Vote: osieorb18

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Shinichi-Kun said:
I am just being ignored :(


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osieorb18 said:
ironace said:
ok i dont care what others think about this.
I am the role blocker for town. So this means shin and logic are both lying and are scum
vote:shin


(I replaced logic)

Umm, what? I don't believe you. This only adds to my suspicion that you're trying to get yourself lynched for nefarious purposes.


and then thank you for clearing me up. I was hella confused about shin being rolebloceker when im there. Now if he was scum that would make sense.
So you all can either vote me and see for ur selfs. but atleast kill shin when i flip.
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I'm home now. Let's get down to business.

So is it ok to assume that there should only be one roleblocker in town, and one in mafia? So either ironace or Shinichi-kun should be scum. In my opinion we could clear up both the mason thing and the roleblocker thing right now by lynching Shinichi-kun.
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I am just being ignored :(
i voted u -_-
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