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Mar 27, 2018 4:21 AM

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I agree with yurkin here. Shinichi is just saying obvious stuff in order to just say stuff. #21 why would a neighbourizer even claim with that high chance in others eyes? Like why mention it? Why put them out like this, if you're not scum? @Shinichi-kun #24 playing the worried in public #22 it harms town (like I already said)

Shin is on my suspect list but I want answers first.
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edit: added links, added a question
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Mar 27, 2018 4:32 AM

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Also if Shin is town/scum it could be that either Wisp or Tainted are scum based on how they support his stupidity and how wisp is trying to look useful lol
(from my first observation atleast)

Oh man I'm spamming already...I'll wait for others now xD
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Mar 27, 2018 4:46 AM

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NewG said:
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meh I feel like shin is town


You feel? Or you know? Why make that feeling public?
so you guys know my thought process?
Mar 27, 2018 4:46 AM

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Do you think shin is evil?
Mar 27, 2018 4:53 AM

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NewG said:
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I am gonna start off by saying this now, if a miller doesn claim in the next 24 hours i am gonna assume that slot is taking by the mafia goon, atleast until the wild cards role is known.


Not sure if I got the hang of the wild card. Does that mean there are two roles of the same out there?


I think I get it now and it just messes everything more up xD Still don't think people should claim voluntarily.
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Mar 27, 2018 4:59 AM

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Tainted said:
Do you think shin is evil?


Yup and I dont know your thought process.

By the way 1 scum could be possible, because there is only one certain scum out there in the "Jealous Mobster" lot. Could be possible that the rest drew town. But how high are the chances? I ain't good at maths. Where is an Osie when you need him?
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Mar 27, 2018 5:03 AM

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NewG said:
Wisp-O said:
Also Confirmed:

It wouldn't be a good mystery without some more uncertainty, would it?
One role not in use will be added to finalize the role list.
This role could come from any other category.
It will still flip as the category it is from upon death.


so there is one extra role from a random category


You and shin both seem to fill the thread with already confirmed mechanics.....
I'm doing it because some people don't read the op as well as they should...
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
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Mar 27, 2018 5:12 AM

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NewG said:
Tainted said:
Do you think shin is evil?


Yup and I dont know your thought process.

By the way 1 scum could be possible, because there is only one certain scum out there in the "Jealous Mobster" lot. Could be possible that the rest drew town. But how high are the chances? I ain't good at maths. Where is an Osie when you need him?
it wouldn't be informed minority vs uninformed majority anymore if there's only 1 scum
Mar 27, 2018 5:15 AM

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NewG said:
Tainted said:
Do you think shin is evil?


Yup and I dont know your thought process.
well now you know that I think Shin is town.
Mar 27, 2018 5:15 AM

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Wisp-O said:
NewG said:


You and shin both seem to fill the thread with already confirmed mechanics.....
I'm doing it because some people don't read the op as well as they should...


Well then that's their own damn fault and would be even better for town if scum slips due to that.. like I said you're only trying to look useful.
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Mar 27, 2018 5:18 AM

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Tainted said:
NewG said:


Yup and I dont know your thought process.
well now you know that I think Shin is town.


Why? If Shin is town what am I?
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Mar 27, 2018 5:19 AM

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Tainted said:
NewG said:


Yup and I dont know your thought process.

By the way 1 scum could be possible, because there is only one certain scum out there in the "Jealous Mobster" lot. Could be possible that the rest drew town. But how high are the chances? I ain't good at maths. Where is an Osie when you need him?
it wouldn't be informed minority vs uninformed majority anymore if there's only 1 scum


I don't make the rules.It's a confirmed fact, not a theory.
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Mar 27, 2018 5:24 AM

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NewG said:
Wisp-O said:
I'm doing it because some people don't read the op as well as they should...


Well then that's their own damn fault and would be even better for town if scum slips due to that.. like I said you're only trying to look useful.
pfft, I just do w/e I feel like doing, and it's not my good damn fault that can't read, doesn't mean I shouldn't gather up the known University... But hmm, first time I've ever been told that I'm trying to look busy that I remember
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Mar 27, 2018 5:25 AM

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Tainted said:
NewG said:


Yup and I dont know your thought process.

By the way 1 scum could be possible, because there is only one certain scum out there in the "Jealous Mobster" lot. Could be possible that the rest drew town. But how high are the chances? I ain't good at maths. Where is an Osie when you need him?
it wouldn't be informed minority vs uninformed majority anymore if there's only 1 scum
there's only one confirmed scum, there isn't some magic working it's wonders on this game...
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Mar 27, 2018 5:26 AM

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13 players in this game I'm willing to bet there are at least 3 scum.
I dont think it would be balanced otherwise.

Phraze said:
logic340 said:
vote: no lynch
same old. why?
NewG said:
logic340 said:
vote: no lynch

why?
because I like to bring awareness to this voting option for town. My reasoning mafia don't want a longer game it's harder on them. Will put it somewhere better later, for now this is fine.
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Mar 27, 2018 5:31 AM

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NewG said:
Tainted said:
well now you know that I think Shin is town.


Why? If Shin is town what am I?

Mar 27, 2018 5:32 AM

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I think massclaim day 1 could solve the game tbh.
Could.

I do think this setup is breakable via it and I'm REALLY tempted to try it for once.
Mar 27, 2018 5:33 AM

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XD

That's what I'm trying to figure out..
My read on Shin was just a snap read he ain't locktown.
Mar 27, 2018 5:34 AM

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Okay guys, who is voting for and who is against a day 1 massclaim?

We can try it once and see how will it work to never bring the massclaim idea again if it fails.
Mar 27, 2018 5:35 AM

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Wisp-O said:
Tainted said:
it wouldn't be informed minority vs uninformed majority anymore if there's only 1 scum
there's only one confirmed scum, there isn't some magic working it's wonders on this game...
unlikely to have only 1 scum with no tprs
Mar 27, 2018 5:35 AM

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logic340 said:
13 players in this game I'm willing to bet there are at least 3 scum.
I dont think it would be balanced otherwise.


Looool, so much for people not reading the set-up. Does that make them town or scum? xD Logic read the above.

edit: unless you went one step ahead and did the maths.
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Mar 27, 2018 5:38 AM

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Roles were handpicked from the avilable ones. The game is promised to be balanced.

Yeah, I asked about it.
Mar 27, 2018 5:38 AM

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Tainted said:
Wisp-O said:
there's only one confirmed scum, there isn't some magic working it's wonders on this game...
unlikely to have only 1 scum with no tprs


Okay at this rate I think you're just trolling lol
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Mar 27, 2018 5:40 AM

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roz1roz said:
Okay guys, who is voting for and who is against a day 1 massclaim?

We can try it once and see how will it work to never bring the massclaim idea again if it fails.
no massclaim do it if you want
Mar 27, 2018 5:42 AM

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NewG said:
Tainted said:
unlikely to have only 1 scum with no tprs


Okay at this rate I think you're just trolling lol
welp l guess it's pretty much useless to analyze how many scums are there in d1
Mar 27, 2018 5:44 AM

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roz1roz said:
Roles were handpicked from the avilable ones. The game is promised to be balanced.

Yeah, I asked about it.


Oh handpicked? So not randomized?
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Mar 27, 2018 5:49 AM

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roz1roz said:
Okay guys, who is voting for and who is against a day 1 massclaim?

We can try it once and see how will it work to never bring the massclaim idea again if it fails.


Not sure if a massclaim in this set-up is beneficial for town haven't thought that far ahead yet lol
Massclaims are no fun tho and I know I won't be the only one with that opinion.
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Mar 27, 2018 5:55 AM

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Have you ever did a massclaim in FM game? I didn't.
I want to try once in my 200 game career tho ;(
Mar 27, 2018 5:56 AM

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Roles were not randomized from the list. I have picked the roles to balance this game.
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Mar 27, 2018 6:00 AM

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I'm against massclaimimg as I am a Behavioral player who isn't that good at mechanics. While massclaiming would provide an opportunity to get better at mechanics I'll decline at this time.
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Mar 27, 2018 6:01 AM

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Vote Count 1.3
Shinichi (3): Century, Shinichi, RE
Karote (1): yurkin
Phraze (1): Wisp-O
Taker (1): Tainted
Wisp-O (1): Phraze
yurkin (1): Karote
No Lynch (1): logic340

Not Voting: Scarlet, NewG, taker, roz1roz
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Mar 27, 2018 6:13 AM

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PentaFlare said:
Roles were not randomized from the list. I have picked the roles to balance this game.


I see, I see then 1 scum is outta option :P
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Mar 27, 2018 6:14 AM

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logic340 said:
13 players in this game I'm willing to bet there are at least 3 scum.
I dont think it would be balanced otherwise.

Phraze said:
same old. why?
NewG said:

why?
because I like to bring awareness to this voting option for town. My reasoning mafia don't want a longer game it's harder on them. Will put it somewhere better later, for now this is fine.
there's nothing to bet... This game is about the mystery...
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Mar 27, 2018 6:15 AM

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Wisp-O said:
NewG said:


Well then that's their own damn fault and would be even better for town if scum slips due to that.. like I said you're only trying to look useful.
pfft, I just do w/e I feel like doing, and it's not my good damn fault that can't read, doesn't mean I shouldn't gather up the known University... But hmm, first time I've ever been told that I'm trying to look busy that I remember


'cause it's the first time you're doing this right from the start. (from my experience)
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Mar 27, 2018 6:16 AM

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PentaFlare said:
Roles were not randomized from the list. I have picked the roles to balance this game.
welp ignore my last post then xD
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Mar 27, 2018 6:17 AM

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So if this game is psuedo randomized then probably a minimum of 3 scum
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Mar 27, 2018 6:18 AM

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Wisp-O said:
So if this game is psuedo randomized then probably a minimum of 3 scum


Thoughts so far?
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Mar 27, 2018 6:19 AM

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NewG said:
Wisp-O said:
So if this game is psuedo randomized then probably a minimum of 3 scum


Thoughts so far?
on what though? Lol pretty broad question. Gotta work on some stuff, be back later
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Mar 27, 2018 6:24 AM

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Wisp-O said:
NewG said:


Thoughts so far?
on what though? Lol pretty broad question. Gotta work on some stuff, be back later


On everything? You aren't a bystander dude. You haven't really tackled any issue here so far. There is lots to catch on. Thoughts on a massclaim coming from roz, thoughts on logic being against it, thoughts on Tainteds behaviour, thoughts on mine, thoughts on the votes etc?
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Mar 27, 2018 6:27 AM

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NewG said:
Also if Shin is town/scum it could be that either Wisp or Tainted are scum based on how they support his stupidity and how wisp is trying to look useful lol
(from my first observation atleast)

Oh man I'm spamming already...I'll wait for others now xD
missed this post.

I don't support Shin with his claiming stuffs. It's just I could see his post coming from a villager's perspective I doubt scum Shin will start the game asking some specific roles to claim.
Mar 27, 2018 6:32 AM

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Tainted said:
NewG said:
Also if Shin is town/scum it could be that either Wisp or Tainted are scum based on how they support his stupidity and how wisp is trying to look useful lol
(from my first observation atleast)

Oh man I'm spamming already...I'll wait for others now xD
missed this post.

I don't support Shin with his claiming stuffs. It's just I could see his post coming from a villager's perspective I doubt scum Shin will start the game asking some specific roles to claim.


Specific. That's the key here. Because he makes it look like it is no big deal while in reality it is and now that I know that some roles are not randomized; claiming for me looks more fatal for town.
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Mar 27, 2018 6:36 AM

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Fuck it.

vote: @Shinichi-kun

Until you convince me otherwise.^
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Mar 27, 2018 6:39 AM

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No, wait let's try this

votechange: Wisp-O
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Mar 27, 2018 6:40 AM

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Wisp-O said:
logic340 said:
13 players in this game I'm willing to bet there are at least 3 scum.
I dont think it would be balanced otherwise.

because I like to bring awareness to this voting option for town. My reasoning mafia don't want a longer game it's harder on them. Will put it somewhere better later, for now this is fine.
there's nothing to bet... This game is about the mystery...
there was something to bet tho....here on MS We're not in the business of putting out unbalanced games. There's still mystery regardless. You're not feeling townie here wisp
unvote:
Vote: wisp-o
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Mar 27, 2018 6:45 AM

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Wowa
vote: NewG
Your catch up feels fake, and while Shinichi has spent most of his time discussing roles, his strategy isn't wrong.
I think neighborizer should claim. Their role is next to useless as town and dangerous as scum.
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RE said:
Wowa
vote: NewG
Your catch up feels fake, and while Shinichi has spent most of his time discussing roles, his strategy isn't wrong.
I think neighborizer should claim. Their role is next to useless as town and dangerous as scum.
how is neighborizer useless as town? Suzune used it masterfully in Alcatraz mafia. I think you're just scared of it because I got you with it in Easter Egg Mafia last year. I'll check her catch up post but this defense of shin is BAD.
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RE said:
Wowa
vote: NewG
Your catch up feels fake, and while Shinichi has spent most of his time discussing roles, his strategy isn't wrong.
I think neighborizer should claim. Their role is next to useless as town and dangerous as scum.


Fake my ass. I'm the realest of the real, baby. But nice try.
If scum does not have the neighbourizer they know they are town. So the only way to dirt them is by pointing them out to town.

edit: plus it's one more deduction for scum. So nope no claim pls. That problem will resolve itself.
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Mar 27, 2018 6:52 AM

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RE said:
vote: Shinichi
You Even voted him and said it wasn't rvs
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Not random, calling out the miller felt like busy work and unnecessary. But we'll see.

Now you defend him? Idk which is worse his play or you protecting him now?
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logic340 said:
RE said:
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vote: NewG
Your catch up feels fake, and while Shinichi has spent most of his time discussing roles, his strategy isn't wrong.
I think neighborizer should claim. Their role is next to useless as town and dangerous as scum.
how is neighborizer useless as town? Suzune used it masterfully in Alcatraz mafia. I think you're just scared of it because I got you with it in Easter Egg Mafia last year. I'll check her catch up post but this defense of shin is BAD.
Definitely, I've also seen neighborizer as scum who wasn't used against me, I warned town against it, and they still fell for it.
It's not bad. This game is nearly open set-up, either sooner or later, we'll be relying on mass claim to catch scum. Shinichi is right, if that person claims, there's a 50% chance they're scum. Give me a brief summary of how she used it masterfully, and I'll reconsider.
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logic340 said:
RE said:
vote: Shinichi
You Even voted him and said it wasn't rvs
RE said:
Not random, calling out the miller felt like busy work and unnecessary. But we'll see.

Now you defend him? Idk which is worse his play or you protecting him now?
I wanted to leave a vote before I went to bed, I technically should have removed it since I don't think scum would immediately jump into mechanics talk, especially one that would help town significantly.
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RE said:
Wowa
vote: NewG
Your catch up feels fake, and while Shinichi has spent most of his time discussing roles, his strategy isn't wrong.
I think neighborizer should claim. Their role is next to useless as town and dangerous as scum.


Fake my ass. I'm the realest of the real, baby. But nice try.
If scum does not have the neighbourizer they know they are town. So the only way to dirt them is by pointing them out to town.
That's a pretty big "if". Town wouldn't know, is the thing, and 50/50 chance of someone being scum sounds pretty good to me, even if we don't lynch/kill them immediately.
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