What is the most annoying thing someone can do when discussing anime?

It's a little frustrating when people wander into a long series or a franchise with a long history, or something made with fans of the franchise or genre in mind, just to complain about things that are fairly standard to said franchise or genre. I do think people suffer a bit from a condition that renders them unable to accept that not everything is made for them, and it shows up a lot in anime and games.

I completely understand if something that was for you starts to morph into something else, but I mean things like people showing up for GQX and then complaining that a main character kills people in space combat. Even Kira Yamato kills people, it's not even a spoiler!

When something isn't for me, I don't complain, I just wander off somewhere else.

People love to throw the term "woke" as an excuse for being racist/homophobic/transphobic/sexist. They just don't want to acccept they are bad people lol. I always found so funny how some folks complained (for example) about Ellie being gay in the TLOU show and calling it woke when she was gay the entire time.

People love to throw the term "woke" as an excuse for being racist/homophobic/transphobic/sexist. They just don't want to acccept they are bad people lol. I always found so funny how some folks complained (for example) about Ellie being gay in the TLOU show and calling it woke when she was gay the entire time.

@DarkFirefly72 @Cheesyb3n Woke means forced representation and its even used by many of the people mentioned by Cheeseyb3n, its not a word limited and said by certain groups of people or gender. Women, POC, LGBT+ people, men, everyone, also use such word. It's not a something "with us vs against us" mentality, its something more complex. You know something is not ok when many people are complaining. Anime can never be woke since no author or studio was forced to make characters, for example, gay or POC since they were created without external pressure. Also anyone who claim Anime is woke don't watch Anime or they don't know what woke is.

I'm more worried about people falsely accusing others of anything ending with -phobe, pedo, incel, nazi just for not sharing a similar opinion about a show, refusing to watch a show, liking/not liking a genre, liking/not liking certain Anime, etc. Cheesyb3n also fail to mention the amount of death threats towards, for example, authors and studios for refusing make their characters trans or lesbian officially. Oda and Sunrise receive a lot of death threats for such things and still many people still think tourists don't exist, they exist and they are real. Some are less obvious than others but they are still tourists.

@ToumaTachibana didn't you start watching in 2017 or some shit lol?

You don't have a good reference.

Anime started the gay thing BEFORE western media lol.

Heck if you started talking about traps and and shit in the 2000s, you'd have gotten your ass kicked irl

@Cheesyb3n

Basically all of this, but I would also add people complaining about piracy.

I saw someone complaining over High School DxD having fan service once, it is an ecchi anime and it is infamous for being very fan servicey yet someone would still choose to watch it and complain about it, why watch it then?

@DarkFirefly72 @Cheesyb3n Woke means forced representation and its even used by many of the people mentioned by Cheeseyb3n, its not a word limited and said by certain groups of people or gender. Women, POC, LGBT+ people, men, everyone, also use such word. It's not a something "with us vs against us" mentality, its something more complex. You know something is not ok when many people are complaining. Anime can never be woke since no author or studio was forced to make characters, for example, gay or POC since they were created without external pressure. Also anyone who claim Anime is woke don't watch Anime or they don't know what woke is.

I'm more worried about people falsely accusing others of anything ending with -phobe, pedo, incel, nazi just for not sharing a similar opinion about a show, refusing to watch a show, liking/not liking a genre, liking/not liking certain Anime, etc. Cheesyb3n also fail to mention the amount of death threats towards, for example, authors and studios for refusing make their characters trans or lesbian officially. Oda and Sunrise receive a lot of death threats for such things and still many people still think tourists don't exist, they exist and they are real. Some are less obvious than others but they are still tourists.

I just thought of another couple

*someone watches only part of the show, doesn't like it, and criticizes it*
Fanboy: "You can't criticize it, you've only seen part of it!"

*someone watches the entire show, doesn't like it, and criticizes it*
Fanboy: "If you didn't like it, why did you watch the whole show?"

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on a different note, "lmao, I'm not reading all of that"

Do you want a medal for having a shit attention span?

You don't HAVE to read it but why even bother commenting then?

I just thought of another couple

*someone watches only part of the show, doesn't like it, and criticizes it*
Fanboy: "You can't criticize it, you've only seen part of it!"

*someone watches the entire show, doesn't like it, and criticizes it*
Fanboy: "If you didn't like it, why did you watch the whole show?"

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on a different note, "lmao, I'm not reading all of that"

Do you want a medal for having a shit attention span?

You don't HAVE to read it but why even bother commenting then?

@Supersonic_Pain
To be honest, it is not rare for a show plot to change tones later and address some of the concerns of people. So it really depends.

This thread is a challenge. Is the most annoying thing: Bragging about being a nonce, acting superior due to useless consumer capitalist metrics like number of shows watched or merch purchased, still being a dumbass that can't analyze media worth shit despite claiming to have watched 1000 shows, using "tourist" unironically?

I'd say the nonce* thing. The number one reason anime fans have a bad reputation.

@DarkFirefly72 *It's UK English slang for paedophile.

When people insist on liking a series even after you've told them it's shit and crap and garbage and mid and overrated af, and explained to them in detail what they should be watching instead.

This may be a controversial thing to say but, the term "tourist" seems to be based in some reality. If I think about where most of the irritation comes from, it's because of people who don't really care about the artform, still acts like they are otaku, and brings in some utter bullshit. An extreme case seems to be "Anime doesn't has to strictly Japanese". Like wtf is that even supposed to mean, you are telling me "an animation project doesn't has to be japanese in order to be called japanese animation aka anime". But if I bring that up people will call me "narrowminded purist", "gatekeeper" and whatnot.

And then there are those who can't stop bitching about sexual themes. I don't care what you think about it, can't you just ignore it and move on with your own shit. There are grown-ass adults who feel "traumatized" because they learn about the mere existence of Boku no Pico. Apparently putting "R18" on it isn't enough and they want it purged from existence.

@Captain-577 To be fair, Boku no Pico is an absolutely disgusting creation. I'm believing that most people "defending" it are just edgelords that like to piss people off.

Anime was influenced by Western animation and comics. So... Yeah... If it was strictly Japanese, it would've had another art style entirely. Series like Attack on Titan, Berserk, Vinland Saga, etc., just wouldn't exist.

@DarkFirefly72 @Cheesyb3n Woke means forced representation and its even used by many of the people mentioned by Cheeseyb3n, its not a word limited and said by certain groups of people or gender. Women, POC, LGBT+ people, men, everyone, also use such word. It's not a something "with us vs against us" mentality, its something more complex. You know something is not ok when many people are complaining. Anime can never be woke since no author or studio was forced to make characters, for example, gay or POC since they were created without external pressure. Also anyone who claim Anime is woke don't watch Anime or they don't know what woke is.

I'm more worried about people falsely accusing others of anything ending with -phobe, pedo, incel, nazi just for not sharing a similar opinion about a show, refusing to watch a show, liking/not liking a genre, liking/not liking certain Anime, etc. Cheesyb3n also fail to mention the amount of death threats towards, for example, authors and studios for refusing make their characters trans or lesbian officially. Oda and Sunrise receive a lot of death threats for such things and still many people still think tourists don't exist, they exist and they are real. Some are less obvious than others but they are still tourists.

"Those two characters of the same gender had any sort of mundane interaction, therefore it means they are canonically gay and want to fuck!"

We used to live in peace with yuri/yaoiphags, because they could accept that their headcanons and ships are just that, headcanons. But it seems like lately their community has been infiltrated by the worst type of people, who just cannot comprehend that two characters of the same gender can be just friends and if that's the case then the author is doing something wrong.

Another annoying thing are those people who will go out of their way and look up character chronological age just to call you a creep after you said that you like that waifu. There also has been a surge of those lately.

"Media literacy" term is quickly losing it's meaning, because it is mostly used by those who think that their own opinion is the only correct one, while it is obvious, that what they are doing is not an interpretation, but motivational reasoning.

Now you're just lying.

Fujos have always been ultra rabid and toxic. That's the Japanese ones. Not western imperialists either.

The actual bad fans are the christian morons lol

@ComeInReiAsuka I really don't recall fujos being ther insufferable and obnoxious as they are today and im in the anime community for 20+ years. The main difference is that they used to keep their degeneracy to themselves. Now they don't.

@Piromysl they never did. Fujos have always been insane and toxic. Shippers always had their issues. But fujos take it too the next level.


The drama was amplified by Christians discovering anime being under some wrong impression it was trad, and then having a subsequent meltdown when encountering Fujoshis.

And making the problem 1000 times bigger.

I've been watching anime nearly as long as you have. Don't try to BS me.

@ComeInReiAsuka Bruh, I don't know where you take those Christians from, nor what your problem is with then, but I'm pretty sure tourists and shippers do not owe their reputation to "Christian propaganda" but their own behaviour. Literally nobody in anime community cares what Christians have to say about anime.

@Piromysl


I've been spending a little bit too much time on X. There's are literally catholics calling to nuke Japan right now because of an anime where a nun shows her panties will be aired. These are the new anime fans today.

People who complain about things that are inherent to any genre...(ex. why is there action in battle shounen? Why is there romance in romance anime?)

Yeah, that guy's exhausting and so goddamn creepy. Some people really think fetishizing a group means supporting them....

Not too big on that format, I want longer anime back.