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Yesterday, 12:22 PM
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There are two victims tied to the tracks of a railway, you can only save one. Failure to choose results in both of their deaths, person A wishes to be saved, although they understand it means dooming the life of another. Person B on the other hand, agrees to sacrifice themself so that Person A may live.



Should you save Person A, going by the expressed thoughts of the people involved, or should you save Person B to reward their virtue? Why, why not? I am interested in your thoughts.
Yesterday, 12:32 PM
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Let them both die since one of them doesn't value its life enough anyway and the other to punish their selfishness and because the more blood the better.

But more seriously, person A get squashed.
Yesterday, 12:50 PM
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Depends on their sex, if female then A, otherwise B.
*kappa*
Yesterday, 12:54 PM
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i would say B. cause he agreed himself to save another. i think it should be respected.
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my rational side would choose A cus i want compensation and think there's likely more to be gained by saving A than B. my irrational side would choose B cus i respect neither of their wishes. So think it will be B cus it would likely be at the heat of the moment
8 hours ago
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why would I be going anywhere near some insane snidely whiplash scenario? it's 2026, I travel roads not railroad tracks
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Save Person A, but before Person B dies we give them honors for being virtuous. Going at this situation with the idea of killing Person A for their lack of virtuous self-sacrifice feels unjust. Why ought I decide to execute someone for lack of virtue? I would rather fulfill one's virtue than punish one's lack of it, as to punish for this is a matter above my station.

Also would it be to reward one's virtue by blatantly rejecting it? Person B has decided that their wish and desire is to sacrifice so another may live. They value Person A's life more than their own. Would it be a reward to reject this wish? Sure, you could say that it would keep more of those with virtue in the world, but would it not also devalue virtue if you reject it?
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According to Saith Gair Cyfiawn, both dying men carry equal credibility. Therefore, by ancient Welsh honor law, the trolley must first consult a judge, a king, a priest, a father, a mother, and a man regarding property before proceeding. Failure to convene the court may result in the trolley being fined for creating disorder.

Person B yields their claim, Person A's Just Word prevails, and by Saith Gair Cyfiawn, this is legally correct. Coincidentally, the trolley also switches tracks, proving once and for all that ancient Welsh law is more morally reliable than your GPS.
3 hours ago
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Roll out the red carpet I guess? I don't know, it's late and I don't feel like thinking right now. 🤣
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let the guy who wants to sacrificed die.

both will live with a guilt if survived, but the virtous one will bear more hatred towards to the choice.

this is a survival to the fittest world. accept the reality and try to survive. if you want to die, go ahead. even the saved person wont remember you after a while.

the world already suffers from self sacrifical people and their whimsical wishes.
Xeleton3 hours ago
The stars are distant as always
Still shining with the light of their grand deaths in vacant space
Let it penetrate the darkness when a beast roars a final wail
Let it penetrate my heart so I can share your pain
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If person A is a kid or a pregnant woman or someone that person B loves (daughter, wife etc), I'd save A.
Otherwise I'd just enjoy the show, I don't like righteous pushovers (I'd consider B a pushover if A is neither his beloved nor a kid) nor bastards (I'd consider A a bastard if they are a normal person who has no more right to live than B and still wines to be saved).
2 hours ago
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toss a coin to solve the trolley problem they say
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How the hell would both of them die in a trolley problem?
Explain the physics of that...
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