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Jul 26, 2015 3:56 PM

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FaZe_JOAOAA said:
It's a tactic to not draw unnecessary attention to you,whether its innocent or werewolf


lurking does draw necessary attention. Lurking is one of the worst thing you could do whether you're scum or not. Lurking town is just an excess weight for town.
Jul 26, 2015 5:00 PM

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I want to know why Jackrito for the votes? I'm aiming towards Controversy but I don't see why the innocent child sided with a town killer.
i suggest you go look at what occurred yesterday and why Jackrito stood out to me.

Ah so you're going after the non voters? That's what I seen from the previous phase pattern.

Controversy you already showed the town you're 1shot vig what other card did you choose?
Jul 26, 2015 5:07 PM

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Crowlage said:
Rumanshi-xanic said:
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i suggest you go look at what occurred yesterday and why Jackrito stood out to me.

Ah so you're going after the non voters? That's what I seen from the previous phase pattern.

Controversy you already showed the town you're 1shot vig what other card did you choose?

Non voters and Jack isn't trustworthy ever. I want him to say three people he finds suspicious.
"I am the Bone of my Sword
Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood
I have created over a Thousand Blades
Unaware of Loss,
Nor aware of Gain.
Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival
I have no Regrets. This is the only Path
My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works"
Jul 26, 2015 5:29 PM

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What even happened while I was gone ;-;
Jul 26, 2015 5:33 PM

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Nevermind, I get it now~
There are a total of three day vig cards (2 town and 1 maf) which means that controversy had to have gotten either the maf version or the town version (cuz RumScum already threw away one of the town day vig cards)
Interesting
Jul 26, 2015 5:38 PM

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Rumanshi-xanic said:

Non voters and Jack isn't trustworthy ever. I want him to say three people he finds suspicious.


In addition, give a proper explanation why do you find them suspicious @Jack. As we all know, things can easily be faked.
Jul 26, 2015 5:40 PM

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I just realized that there was only one bloodhound card in the deck (according to the op role numbers)
So Zurel threw it away, for a supposedly weaker role cuz they like weaker roles better (if I remember correctly...) which in turn must mean that they must think that their maf hunting skills are on the same level as Lucy... Cuz why did they throw it away again?
Jul 26, 2015 5:51 PM

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I'm just gonna follow RumScum for now cuz they're confirmed~
Lynch: Jack


And controversy... Why did you decide to kill byon?
Jul 26, 2015 5:57 PM

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Astros said:
Controversy just up and kills someone for little apparent reason and nobody bats an eye.


I wanted to kill him the last Day phase but I decided to stretch time a bit. I wanted to find connections between him and grrr but I found none.

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While I think Grrr is a good lynch, I'd like to pressure one of my suspects a bit more.

Vote: Astros
Jul 26, 2015 5:59 PM

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wait what
Jul 26, 2015 6:00 PM

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what is this Lynch Jack

why are you guys quick on everything
Jul 26, 2015 6:01 PM

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Kill: Navizel

You are my next target. I just need a phase to recharge.
Jul 26, 2015 6:08 PM

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Rumanshi-xanic said:
Crowlage said:

Ah so you're going after the non voters? That's what I seen from the previous phase pattern.

Controversy you already showed the town you're 1shot vig what other card did you choose?

Non voters and Jack isn't trustworthy ever. I want him to say three people he finds suspicious.


Saying I'm non trust worthy is a bit harsh I'm town quite a lot in games. I just adopt a strat to appear suspect so mafia do not see me as a threat in early game and have hopes I will die by lynch which means I have a good chance of living till late game. Sometimes it works others it does not but I like it so stick to it.

Not sure why I'm such a big suspect off this compared to everyone else and should have to justify my position to everyone with 3 scum reads.

But I will do so my first is Zurel because I do not agree with chucking away a power role such as bloodhound to get a weaker town role. I already explained this point before I just think it is bad for town who would want as much power as possible so likely thier cards were for other factions.

FaZe_JOAOAA is another because of thier inactive nature and doing just enough to stay above the post count this could be just because of a boring townie role but with setup and been able to pick a role I doubt it so likely they are trying to stay under the radar and hope other people get lynched.

Also Controversy from my exp with them they are always hard to read no matter if good or bad. Also if they are viglante like it appears why kill Byon just for voting them it makes no sense from a townie point of view. Also since byon was been very pro active as a townie and trying to get things done it was just a bad kill all round. I also don't like how unbothered everyone is by that as well.

On other people in this game I don't really have a read on shap at the moment they seem to be adding little in discussion from memory when on so I'm not sure what they are. coromandel appears to be town based off thier lynching of grr but with the amount of factions possible they are one of them just takeing out other factions while building town rep but trust them for now.

lupadim hard to get a read on as well they have claimed town doctor who got turned normal town that can happen but makes sense have some intresting ideas at times and threw away one of the best mafia roles so appear town because as they said why throw away that for another evil role unless that is better.

Crowlage appears to be town with some of thier ideas and actually helping town but I know they are a good player who knows how to play any role well so I don't trust them until anything is proved but would rather kill others for now.

Hime-sama another who is hard to read so got nothing on them sadly. Turtlebandit appears to be pro town keeping track of votes and trying to get things done when possible they can have a troll playstyle at times but appear town for now but one to keep eye on.

Navizel I know little about them so hard to get a read on them from past games they seem to know what they are doing and helping town when possible and trying to pressure people which is a good sign.Kakugo and Astros I have little to say on both of these apart from they appear to not post or help town much unless I missed some stuff. so intrested to see what others think about them


Finally to vote my main suspect for killing byon for little reason.
Vote Controversy

JackritoJul 26, 2015 6:12 PM
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a wall of unconnected text
Jul 26, 2015 6:16 PM

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Vote Count 2.3

Jackrito (3): Controversy, Rumanshi-xanic, turtlebandit
Controversy (2): Navizel, Jackrito
FaZe_JOAOAA (3): coromandel, lupadim, Hime-sama

Players not voting (6): shap111, Crowlage, FaZe_JOAOAA, Karote, Astros, Zurel

Time until end of Day 2
Jul 26, 2015 6:17 PM

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Controversy said:
Crazy_Cofee_Cat said:
a wall of unconnected text


Contro, what is the reason you killed Byon really? did you figure he was a townie or just random picked him or what? i dont want a little reason give a good point please.
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Jul 26, 2015 6:25 PM

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Controversy said:


Contro, what is the reason you killed Byon really? did you figure he was a townie or just random picked him or what? i dont want a little reason give a good point please.


I already explained like 4 posts above your post. Byon said grrr was a good lynch but voted for someone else. Then when it came to voting for someone other than grrr, he didn't throw excuses to not vote for that person. If you look at the final D1 votes grrr voted for Byon and Byon ditched grrr for Astros. It all looked coordinated. Then when he voted for me, I decided to kill him and see if he really was an alien, and if not gain info for the vote count.
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Controversy said:
[center]Final Day 1 Votes - v2.0

Byon-kun (1): grrr
Zurel (2): turtlebandit, lupadim
turtlebandit (1): KaitoKirishima
Astros (1) Byon-kun
Navizel (1): Controversy
Crowlage (1): Astros
grrr (4): Hime-sama, Navizel, coromandel, Rumanshi-xanic
Jackrito (1): Crowlage

Players that did not vote (8): Suzune-chan, shap111, Jackrito, FaZe_JOAOAA, Kakugo, julyan Zurel, x_at_home
Jul 26, 2015 6:30 PM

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So I guess those are fakes then.
Jul 26, 2015 6:41 PM

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Das bootleg.
Jul 26, 2015 6:42 PM

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Controversy said:
Hime-sama said:


Contro, what is the reason you killed Byon really? did you figure he was a townie or just random picked him or what? i dont want a little reason give a good point please.


I already explained like 4 posts above your post. Byon said grrr was a good lynch but voted for someone else. Then when it came to voting for someone other than grrr, he didn't throw excuses to not vote for that person. If you look at the final D1 votes grrr voted for Byon and Byon ditched grrr for Astros. It all looked coordinated. Then when he voted for me, I decided to kill him and see if he really was an alien, and if not gain info for the vote count.


Or he was trying to find more infomation by hopping to other players, but alright i guess.
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Jul 26, 2015 6:46 PM

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Hime-sama said:
Or he was trying to find more infomation by hopping to other players


Because covering up Aliens is the best way to find information.
Jul 26, 2015 7:23 PM

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Huh, I doubt my memory is slipping, but I remember Controversy saying in a post that he took out Byon because of last nights actions. I can't seem to find that post anywhere, am I the only one who recalls this? If not then no doubt he deleted it.

Edit: What I mean by actions is his behavior not role actions.

Edit #2: Never mind, seems unlikely considering Byron didn't even post during the night. Still wonder what post I'm thinking of. hmm
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So then... Anybody got anything else to say atm?
Jul 26, 2015 7:41 PM

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I have chips.
Jul 26, 2015 7:55 PM

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Controversy said:
I have chips.

Awesome! I also have chips :)
Jul 26, 2015 8:04 PM

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Good night everybody!
And I'll leave Lucy out here just in case someone gets bored while I'm gone and wants somebody to talk to~



Jul 26, 2015 8:40 PM
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So then... Anybody got anything else to say atm?

I have a big post I'm gonna start making soon

Too busy to do it at the moment but should be done before day phase ends...should
Jul 26, 2015 8:49 PM
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Vote: controversy

No real reason for killing Byon

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Kill: Navizel

You are my next target. I just need a phase to recharge.

It's nice that you're letting your next victim prepare
Jul 26, 2015 9:07 PM

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unvote:Jackrito
"I am the Bone of my Sword
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I have created over a Thousand Blades
Unaware of Loss,
Nor aware of Gain.
Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival
I have no Regrets. This is the only Path
My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works"
Jul 26, 2015 9:08 PM

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turtlebandit said:
I just realized that there was only one bloodhound card in the deck (according to the op role numbers)
So Zurel threw it away, for a supposedly weaker role cuz they like weaker roles better (if I remember correctly...) which in turn must mean that they must think that their maf hunting skills are on the same level as Lucy... Cuz why did they throw it away again?

Why the heck must I be compared to that gold standard of yours? Lucy is Lucy, I like him and I have tricked him before thank you very much. But I am me and I have no desire to be compared to him.
Jul 26, 2015 9:14 PM

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vote:Turtlebandit
"I am the Bone of my Sword
Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood
I have created over a Thousand Blades
Unaware of Loss,
Nor aware of Gain.
Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival
I have no Regrets. This is the only Path
My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works"
Jul 26, 2015 9:27 PM

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Vote Change: FaZe_JOAOAA

Me before you.
Jul 26, 2015 10:02 PM

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FaZe_JOAOAA said:
Vote: controversy

No real reason for killing Byon

Controversy said:
Kill: Navizel

You are my next target. I just need a phase to recharge.

It's nice that you're letting your next victim prepare


I don't think that is even possible. There's only four dayvig and all of them are one-shot. One dayvig has been discarded and the other one is a compulsive childkiller. Controversy didn't immediately kill Rumanshi so that means he got the Town One-shot Dayvig or the Mafia one. Of course, he chose the power part of either roles which means his faction is unknown. I'm more on the possibility that he chose to be scum because goddamn that kill was the stupidest thing ever.
Jul 26, 2015 10:10 PM
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ahh ok, didn't realize it was a one time only thing
Jul 26, 2015 10:45 PM

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I don't think that is even possible. There's only four dayvig and all of them are one-shot. One dayvig has been discarded and the other one is a compulsive childkiller. Controversy didn't immediately kill Rumanshi so that means he got the Town One-shot Dayvig or the Mafia one. Of course, he chose the power part of either roles which means his faction is unknown. I'm more on the possibility that he chose to be scum because goddamn that kill was the stupidest thing ever.


Don't be jelly of my skills. Give me one day and I'll have you writing comments in the dead club.
Jul 27, 2015 1:09 AM

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Alright, thank you jack. It wasn't the fact that you weren't voting - although that did add on to my dubiousness of you, it was the fact that a few of the posts I read from you seemed to be the same things you say when you are scum. It was a bad guess based upon a bad meta read.

Sorry. I'm trying to improve my game as I'm a confirmed role this game. >.<
"I am the Bone of my Sword
Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood
I have created over a Thousand Blades
Unaware of Loss,
Nor aware of Gain.
Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival
I have no Regrets. This is the only Path
My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works"
Jul 27, 2015 2:00 AM

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Did Kaguro guy or Lamb posted anything?
Jul 27, 2015 2:31 AM
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Nope

Not that I've seen
Jul 27, 2015 5:20 AM

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Zurel said:
turtlebandit said:
I just realized that there was only one bloodhound card in the deck (according to the op role numbers)
So Zurel threw it away, for a supposedly weaker role cuz they like weaker roles better (if I remember correctly...) which in turn must mean that they must think that their maf hunting skills are on the same level as Lucy... Cuz why did they throw it away again?

Why the heck must I be compared to that gold standard of yours? Lucy is Lucy, I like him and I have tricked him before thank you very much. But I am me and I have no desire to be compared to him.

Lucy is not just Lucy! Lucy is a god!
(Also, just between you and me, I don't trust you for a second -.-)
Jul 27, 2015 5:24 AM

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Rumanshi-xanic said:
Alright, thank you jack. It wasn't the fact that you weren't voting - although that did add on to my dubiousness of you, it was the fact that a few of the posts I read from you seemed to be the same things you say when you are scum. It was a bad guess based upon a bad meta read.

Sorry. I'm trying to improve my game as I'm a confirmed role this game. >.<


It is not a problem I try to play the same way when scum so that will happen if meta is used makes it hard to read me but that is the way I perfer. at least you are trying to get things going which is needed from a innocent child role. It is a good idea to pressure me as well since I won't give my views as much unless pushed.

For now I'm sticking with my vote on Controversy since as others have said decent chance they are mafia day vig based off that kill.
Jul 27, 2015 5:39 AM

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For some reason I feel like going after coromandel, but that's just guts making me want to...

I'll go look at him later.
"I am the Bone of my Sword
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I have created over a Thousand Blades
Unaware of Loss,
Nor aware of Gain.
Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival
I have no Regrets. This is the only Path
My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works"
Jul 27, 2015 6:20 AM

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turtlebandit said:
Zurel said:

Why the heck must I be compared to that gold standard of yours? Lucy is Lucy, I like him and I have tricked him before thank you very much. But I am me and I have no desire to be compared to him.

Lucy is not just Lucy! Lucy is a god!
(Also, just between you and me, I don't trust you for a second -.-)

It's "I don't trust you for even a second." The way you write it, it means you only distrust me for one second and trust me for the rest of the seconds in your life.

You want me to be Lucy? Fine. Vote: turtlebandit because your grammar.

P.s: I am in a bad temper right now and may be mod-killed soon because I don't have the luxury to hang around MAL, but I advise you to stop invoking Lucy's name or I swear I will turn you into a tortoise by whatever means.
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Karote said:
Did Kaguro guy or Lamb posted anything?

Neither of them made any posts.
Jul 27, 2015 7:07 AM

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Zurel said:
turtlebandit said:

Lucy is not just Lucy! Lucy is a god!
(Also, just between you and me, I don't trust you for a second -.-)

It's "I don't trust you for even a second." The way you write it, it means you only distrust me for one second and trust me for the rest of the seconds in your life.

You want me to be Lucy? Fine. Vote: turtlebandit because your grammar.

P.s: I am in a bad temper right now and may be mod-killed soon because I don't have the luxury to hang around MAL, but I advise you to stop invoking Lucy's name or I swear I will turn you into a tortoise by whatever means.

How about we make a deal? You give me some reason to trust you, and I'll stop invoking Lucy's name.
It's a win-win for everybody then~
You won't have to hear about the severe gap in skill between you and Lucy anymore and you won't have to turn me into a tortoise, and you'll gain some of that sweet town cred ^.^
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Zurel said:
turtlebandit said:

Lucy is not just Lucy! Lucy is a god!
(Also, just between you and me, I don't trust you for a second -.-)

It's "I don't trust you for even a second." The way you write it, it means you only distrust me for one second and trust me for the rest of the seconds in your life.

You want me to be Lucy? Fine. Vote: turtlebandit because your grammar.

P.s: I am in a bad temper right now and may be mod-killed soon because I don't have the luxury to hang around MAL, but I advise you to stop invoking Lucy's name or I swear I will turn you into a tortoise by whatever means.

So you voted me... because of my grammar? That's a rather serious allegation based on an extremely transparent reason -.-
Tell me, does the gap in skill between you and the divine being known as LucianRoy bother you? Does it make you feel suddenly inferior whenever LucianRoy's name is mentioned?
Jul 27, 2015 7:27 AM

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@Xanic, I am obviously stupid, so I would like to ask some questions. How did asking Jack or anyone else who their suspects were, assure that he was pro-town? It's not as if one cannot copy another player's read, right, and make it seemingly convincing? Some of the arguments against players here can be pretty obvious for now: like me who discarded a strong card, or Joa who lurks, or Neon who killed a townie out of the blue, we are all very suspicious. So it's not that hard to come up with a list of suspects.
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Vote Count 2.4

Jackrito (1): turtlebandit
Controversy (3): Navizel, Jackrito, FaZe_JOAOAA
FaZe_JOAOAA (4): coromandel, lupadim, Hime-sama, Controversy
turtlebandit (2): Rumanshi-xanic, Zurel

Players not voting (4): shap111, Crowlage, Karote, Astros

Time until end of Day 2
Jul 27, 2015 7:36 AM

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No, it doesn't bother me at all that my skill is of no par to Lucy. I am stupid and I have no interest in gaining your trust, Turtle. I hope that makes you happy.



I think I am being personal. I am sorry, Turtle.

Unvote I still want to turn you into a tortoise, you do piss me off.
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@Xanic, I am obviously stupid, so I would like to ask some questions. How did asking Jack or anyone else who their suspects were, assure that he was pro-town? It's not as if one cannot copy another player's read, right, and make it seemingly convincing? Some of the arguments against players here can be pretty obvious for now: like me who discarded a strong card, or Joa who lurks, or Neon who killed a townie out of the blue, we are all very suspicious. So it's not that hard to come up with a list of suspects.
This is jack we're talking about. There's no point in me trying to read him - I wanted to get information for other players.
"I am the Bone of my Sword
Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood
I have created over a Thousand Blades
Unaware of Loss,
Nor aware of Gain.
Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival
I have no Regrets. This is the only Path
My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works"
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