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Dec 15, 2016 7:07 PM

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Ruu said:
I'm sick so my vision is pretty blurry and I couldn't read everything in detail, I apologise if I miss any relevant post, please let me know.
Also tomorrow I have a final exam so that's why I haven't been active today, I've been studying all day.
Poor Ruu. :'< Sorry to question you like this while you're sick.

My vote is still in Denja. His strategy has change from our last game. I have to admit his posts are more townish, but that's what actually worries me. I think he learned from our last game as scum buddies that his short/not very informative posts can show his scum game so he decided to use a different approach this time.
This sounds to me like paranoia. Do you have evidence from his posts that show Denja is doing this? Otherwise, there are several things that could be happening here. He could be trying to help town, or is changing up his playstyle for example. Your vote on him will be much stronger if you are able to show support for your suspicions.

Karote is another person that worries me. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who is suspicious of them. Their post gave me a bad feeling, I don't like their wording nor some of their responses (I'll try to make a more informative post on them tomorrow when I feel better). Side note: Denja has not problem voting for/suspecting his allies when scum so him voting for Karote doesn't necessary mean that they are not on the same side.
Alright, I'll wait for tomorrow then. Your side note is true, scum often vote for their buddies. Do you mean to say that is what's happening here? Again, I'll need you to give support for this.

I agree with Denja that there must be 4 scums, it the most logic number imo. But I also suggest we use the first shot on N1 because confirming the number can really help. I don't like to be completely in the dark to be honest. I prefer to be able to write down possible scum groups xDD - I know @Phraze loves that too ;)
Do you think the advantage of knowing the ratio early on outweights the disadvantage of having 2 shots left for the rest of the game? What do you think of Kit, Logic, and my comments on this subject?

I won't give strong town reads until at least D3 because I know that those who are considered "strong town reads" die first and I want them to be alive because I can trust their opinions and work with them. So don't ask for them.
Alright. Just keep in mind this gives town less info to work with.
Dec 15, 2016 7:08 PM

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DenjaX said:
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Not answering, sorry.
I'll lay out my suspicions once I'm ready.
boo you are no fun... I would have elected the one with the least votes to be the tie-breaker person. Tried this kind of strategy before, it kinda worked until they got killed. xDD
Lol, I'm just wary about giving out reads too early after last game.
Dec 15, 2016 7:12 PM

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Ruu said:
I'm sick so my vision is pretty blurry and I couldn't read everything in detail, I apologise if I miss any relevant post, please let me know.
Also tomorrow I have a final exam so that's why I haven't been active today, I've been studying all day.

My vote is still in Denja. His strategy has change from our last game. I have to admit his posts are more townish, but that's what actually worries me. I think he learned from our last game as scum buddies that his short/not very informative posts can show his scum game so he decided to use a different approach this time.
You seemed to have caught up despite being sick. Do you still think I may be scum?

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Dec 15, 2016 7:16 PM

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@Gruffin I will explained my reasons better tomorrow (for Karote and Denja)

I will give scum/neutral reads. I don't want strong / skilled townies to get NK. I just don't want to say "X is my strongest town read" because I've learned that statements like that are almost a death sentence for them xDD

I think we should use our first shot N1 to get some good/useful information. Knowing the ratio between town/mafia is a point for us don't you agree? We gain something from our first shot no matter if the first lynch flips town or mafia. The remaining shots shouldn't be use until N4 imo.
Dec 15, 2016 7:21 PM

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DenjaX said:
Ruu said:
I'm sick so my vision is pretty blurry and I couldn't read everything in detail, I apologise if I miss any relevant post, please let me know.
Also tomorrow I have a final exam so that's why I haven't been active today, I've been studying all day.

My vote is still in Denja. His strategy has change from our last game. I have to admit his posts are more townish, but that's what actually worries me. I think he learned from our last game as scum buddies that his short/not very informative posts can show his scum game so he decided to use a different approach this time.
You seemed to have caught up despite being sick. Do you still think I may be scum?


I have trust issues when it comes to you Denja ;-; Tomorrow, when I feel better, I'll reread the thread and give a proper read on you and Karote. I like that you are more active this time and trying to probably help town with some of your posts. The thing is... I don't see your vote on Karote as an omgus move. I think you might be buddies. Can you tell me of a game where you rolled town please?
Dec 15, 2016 7:22 PM

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Night Night guys ~

see you tomorrow <3
Dec 15, 2016 7:25 PM

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Gruffin said:
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No need to apologize lol. Yeah we can use it that way, and you could argue that saving the shots for later gets us more posts to interpret. But I also don't feel like having the confirm flips be for the D2 and D3 lynches would be a "waste" cause we could use that info faster.

I suppose we could save this discussion for night, I guess I'm getting kind of side tracked from finding scum and I'm bringing others into this discussion ._.
That's true, but what if we lynch town, find out the person we lynched was town, and end up using a search party shot? Then we have only two left for the entire rest of the game with only confirmed town reads....
Actually. This is the same problem with using them later game. So crud.

I would agree, but there aren't many people to question right now. I think it's a good discussion to have when the thread would otherwise be silent.
Yeah that's the problem I have when I consider using shots later. Any benefit that I can think of for late game, works for early game too, and any detriment for using it early game, works for late game.

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I do think we should be lynching, just lynching for the sake of info won't work as well here with no-reveal. Do you think we should go ahead and lynch someone even if we aren't sure they are scum/if we're panic voting?

I like your search party idea.
In a set-up like this one, this is the kind of game where votes are thrown around, bandwagoning people for pressure but it still would not work until we actually lynch a scum. That's why we need to lynch someone to get started. If there are 4 mafias, that would mean we have 25% chance of lynching scum Day 1 if my calculations are correct xDD Better than 0% with no-lynch AND we lose a town the night after... Then we are still stuck on Square 1 the day after...
I wouldn't say it's 25% exactly. Mafia could steer us toward a mislynch to make that chance lower, or they could end up acting really scummy exposing their self and make it more than 25%. If you randomly throw a dart at the names or something then yeah it's 25%.. Good enough to justify lynching someone as opposed to a no-lynch though, probably.
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Alright comrades, let's have a poll:

@Gruffin @DenjaX @logic340 @Togs @Rinto-kun @Ruu @Phraze @Tingle @KOtA @Chione @Karote @Shinichi-Kun @PentaFlare @Kit @-shad- @callmeLuna

Can you guys come up with 4 people you predict who would be scum in this game? Just guess. xDD I think it will be interesting to see.

I would keep the tally of polls for future reference xDD Thank you for your cooperation.
Huh I don't really have a "prediction" ... based on what? Could be anyone since it's RNG. Some of the players I don't even know enough to say I fear them being scum XD










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Dec 15, 2016 7:26 PM

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Ruu said:
@Gruffin I will explained my reasons better tomorrow (for Karote and Denja)

I will give scum/neutral reads. I don't want strong / skilled townies to get NK. I just don't want to say "X is my strongest town read" because I've learned that statements like that are almost a death sentence for them xDD

I think we should use our first shot N1 to get some good/useful information. Knowing the ratio between town/mafia is a point for us don't you agree? We gain something from our first shot no matter if the first lynch flips town or mafia. The remaining shots shouldn't be use until N4 imo.
That's fine. ^^

I disagree. Good mafia can easily tell who the towniest players are without town assistance. Yeah, gushing over how town someone is would probably be bad, but I don't think giving townreads is always a death sentence.
Giving scum and neutral reads will allow everyone to figure out your townreads by process of elimination. xD

That's true that it will be useful at first, but what about the long term game? Would knowing the initial ratio help us lynch scum later?
Dec 15, 2016 7:26 PM

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Ruu said:
Can you tell me of a game where you rolled town please?
Ummm sorry to disappoint you but I was always scum xDD There's not alot of resources to read my town games xDD

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Dec 15, 2016 7:29 PM

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DenjaX said:
Ruu said:
Can you tell me of a game where you rolled town please?
Ummm sorry to disappoint you but I was always scum xDD There's not alot of resources to read my town games xDD
#Scumconfirmed :P
Dec 15, 2016 7:32 PM

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Kit said:
I wouldn't say it's 25% exactly. Mafia could steer us toward a mislynch to make that chance lower, or they could end up acting really scummy exposing their self and make it more than 25%. If you randomly throw a dart at the names or something then yeah it's 25%.. Good enough to justify lynching someone as opposed to a no-lynch though, probably.

Huh I don't really have a "prediction" ... based on what? Could be anyone since it's RNG. Some of the players I don't even know enough to say I fear them being scum XD
Then if we got the mafia involved with this then EVEN better xDD We got to somewhere regardless of the townie loss. Usually, blind shots like this are usually left to chances and mafias tend to stay away from any attention and leave the town just lynch each other. That is what I would consider VCA in the future.

No-lynch, on the other hand, is still 0 leads. Zero progress. Nada. Zit

The purpose was supposed to be the appointed tie-breaker since mafia's cannot rig this one and their only chance is to vote last where they would come up with a vote where their scum buddy would be the appointed tie-breaker. It happened to me once and I must say it was good until the doctor died xDD In this case, I doubt one can stay longer lol Carry on then. xDD

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Dec 15, 2016 7:32 PM

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Ruu said:
I'm sick so my vision is pretty blurry and I couldn't read everything in detail, I apologise if I miss any relevant post, please let me know.
Also tomorrow I have a final exam so that's why I haven't been active today, I've been studying all day.

My vote is still in Denja. His strategy has change from our last game. I have to admit his posts are more townish, but that's what actually worries me. I think he learned from our last game as scum buddies that his short/not very informative posts can show his scum game so he decided to use a different approach this time.

Karote is another person that worries me. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who is suspicious of them. Their post gave me a bad feeling, I don't like their wording nor some of their responses (I'll try to make a more informative post on them tomorrow when I feel better). Side note: Denja has not problem voting for/suspecting his allies when scum so him voting for Karote doesn't necessary mean that they are not on the same side.

Shinichi always seems scummy on the first day imo xDD so for now he is neutral to me.

I agree with Denja that there must be 4 scums, it the most logic number imo. But I also suggest we use the first shot on N1 because confirming the number can really help. I don't like to be completely in the dark to be honest. I prefer to be able to write down possible scum groups xDD - I know @Phraze loves that too ;)

I won't give strong town reads until at least D3 because I know that those who are considered "strong town reads" die first and I want them to be alive because I can trust their opinions and work with them. So don't ask for them.
Oh noooo Ruu I hope you get better quickly! ;w; Good luck on your exam too!

You think Denja switches up his play from game to game? I don't really know what to make of his posts sometimes so I don't know if he's scum or town but he does sound more town this time. In nanatsu even from his first posts I thought he was scum :/ And yeah I agree about the voting for fellow scum thing, although I'm not sure the reverse is true: would Karote vote Denja if Denja is fellow scum (altho he took his vote off later).

I think no matter when we use our first shot it'll only end up being like a starter number Since we can't know for sure if previous lynches were town or scum so yeah it's not bad to use it N1 imo

And yeah seems that without needing to power-role hunt scum will probably go for active/helpful/townie people who are the least pocketed/who scum can't steer toward a mislynch










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Dec 15, 2016 7:43 PM

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Gruffin said:
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@Gruffin I will explained my reasons better tomorrow (for Karote and Denja)

I will give scum/neutral reads. I don't want strong / skilled townies to get NK. I just don't want to say "X is my strongest town read" because I've learned that statements like that are almost a death sentence for them xDD

I think we should use our first shot N1 to get some good/useful information. Knowing the ratio between town/mafia is a point for us don't you agree? We gain something from our first shot no matter if the first lynch flips town or mafia. The remaining shots shouldn't be use until N4 imo.
That's fine. ^^

I disagree. Good mafia can easily tell who the towniest players are without town assistance. Yeah, gushing over how town someone is would probably be bad, but I don't think giving townreads is always a death sentence.
Giving scum and neutral reads will allow everyone to figure out your townreads by process of elimination. xD

That's true that it will be useful at first, but what about the long term game? Would knowing the initial ratio help us lynch scum later?
Yeah I'm thinking the same, it'll be obvious to scum who is most town read even without anyone saying it lol. Although I'm starting to question if doing entire read lists all the time is completely necessary. It does help you survive to the end though, if you make sure to town read some or all of the scum (source: I lived to the end of every game I played in cause I town read scum.. XD )

It's kinda like.. no matter what you say there are factors working for and against you. Well, the more someone says, the easier it is to read them, so it can at least prevent town from being mislynched if they speak up in general.

I guess in the end I don't particularly agree or disagree with Ruu's point of not town reading right now. It's still early anyway and some people have barely posted at all. I don't think Tingle has made even a single post here unless they have ninja'd my post while I'm writing it










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Dec 15, 2016 7:49 PM

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DenjaX said:
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I wouldn't say it's 25% exactly. Mafia could steer us toward a mislynch to make that chance lower, or they could end up acting really scummy exposing their self and make it more than 25%. If you randomly throw a dart at the names or something then yeah it's 25%.. Good enough to justify lynching someone as opposed to a no-lynch though, probably.

Huh I don't really have a "prediction" ... based on what? Could be anyone since it's RNG. Some of the players I don't even know enough to say I fear them being scum XD
Then if we got the mafia involved with this then EVEN better xDD We got to somewhere regardless of the townie loss. Usually, blind shots like this are usually left to chances and mafias tend to stay away from any attention and leave the town just lynch each other. That is what I would consider VCA in the future.

No-lynch, on the other hand, is still 0 leads. Zero progress. Nada. Zit

The purpose was supposed to be the appointed tie-breaker since mafia's cannot rig this one and their only chance is to vote last where they would come up with a vote where their scum buddy would be the appointed tie-breaker. It happened to me once and I must say it was good until the doctor died xDD In this case, I doubt one can stay longer lol Carry on then. xDD
Yeah I'm in agreement, better to lynch someone today. Altho if we don't know the flip we can't really VCA, but if we search N1 we can at least kind of guess whether we caught scum or not based on the number we get.

Oh lol, a tiebreaker. Maybe I'm not understanding but that seems complicated XD I'm not sure it would work if you expose the plan so quickly










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Dec 15, 2016 7:51 PM

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Gruffin said:
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Ummm sorry to disappoint you but I was always scum xDD There's not alot of resources to read my town games xDD
#Scumconfirmed :P
well there's one town game that I played that I survived till the end:

https://xss.now.cc/forum/?topicid=1502830

The rest is because I get mislynched early or died early. Scum don't usually kept me alive for so long. xDD For the record, I always replace people and rarely join a full game. xDD

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Dec 15, 2016 7:52 PM

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Kit said:
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That's fine. ^^

I disagree. Good mafia can easily tell who the towniest players are without town assistance. Yeah, gushing over how town someone is would probably be bad, but I don't think giving townreads is always a death sentence.
Giving scum and neutral reads will allow everyone to figure out your townreads by process of elimination. xD

That's true that it will be useful at first, but what about the long term game? Would knowing the initial ratio help us lynch scum later?
Yeah I'm thinking the same, it'll be obvious to scum who is most town read even without anyone saying it lol. Although I'm starting to question if doing entire read lists all the time is completely necessary. It does help you survive to the end though, if you make sure to town read some or all of the scum (source: I lived to the end of every game I played in cause I town read scum.. XD )

It's kinda like.. no matter what you say there are factors working for and against you. Well, the more someone says, the easier it is to read them, so it can at least prevent town from being mislynched if they speak up in general.

I guess in the end I don't particularly agree or disagree with Ruu's point of not town reading right now. It's still early anyway and some people have barely posted at all. I don't think Tingle has made even a single post here unless they have ninja'd my post while I'm writing it
That's true. xD I just don't like the thought of giving fake reads as town (looking at you, @Phraze). It would make it much easier for scum to blend in that way. Like sure, it would be personally good, but I don't think it would be beneficial to the overall team.

Reads lists are good for showing stances. It's really tough when you're expected to post them as scum because you have to fake an entire game's worth of analysis. It's super easy to slip up on them in my experience. *-* If you're not scum this game, just you wait. XD

Penta hasn't posted either, iirc. I forgot those two were even in the game.
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Kit said:
Oh lol, a tiebreaker. Maybe I'm not understanding but that seems complicated XD I'm not sure it would work if you expose the plan so quickly
Nah, I just realized that we have no protector roles so it's pointless xDD

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Gruffin said:
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Yeah I'm thinking the same, it'll be obvious to scum who is most town read even without anyone saying it lol. Although I'm starting to question if doing entire read lists all the time is completely necessary. It does help you survive to the end though, if you make sure to town read some or all of the scum (source: I lived to the end of every game I played in cause I town read scum.. XD )

It's kinda like.. no matter what you say there are factors working for and against you. Well, the more someone says, the easier it is to read them, so it can at least prevent town from being mislynched if they speak up in general.

I guess in the end I don't particularly agree or disagree with Ruu's point of not town reading right now. It's still early anyway and some people have barely posted at all. I don't think Tingle has made even a single post here unless they have ninja'd my post while I'm writing it
That's true. xD I just don't like the thought of giving fake reads as town (looking at you, @Phraze). It would make it much easier for scum to blend in that way. Like sure, it would be personally good, but I don't think it would be beneficial to the overall team.

Reads lists are good for showing stances. It's really tough when you're expected to post them as scum because you have to fake an entire game's worth of analysis. It's super easy to slip up on them in my experience. *-* If you're not scum this game, just you wait. XD

Penta hasn't posted either, iirc. I forgot those two were even in the game.
Yeah I tend not to lie on reads myself but I can see reasons why town would, but I can also see how scum can take advantage of that. And the point about mafia needing to make read lists is good. The more activity we can squeeze out of scum the better.










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Kit said:
Yeah I tend not to lie on reads myself but I can see reasons why town would, but I can also see how scum can take advantage of that. And the point about mafia needing to make read lists is good. The more activity we can squeeze out of scum the better.
Yep yep.
I suggest that we all post some form of reads list Night 1 before the first kill. If not then, then at the start of D2.

Edit: If not before the D1 lynch.
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DenjaX said:
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Oh lol, a tiebreaker. Maybe I'm not understanding but that seems complicated XD I'm not sure it would work if you expose the plan so quickly
Nah, I just realized that we have no protector roles so it's pointless xDD
oh lmao then yeah it def wouldnt work XD










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Gruffin said:
Kit said:
Yeah I tend not to lie on reads myself but I can see reasons why town would, but I can also see how scum can take advantage of that. And the point about mafia needing to make read lists is good. The more activity we can squeeze out of scum the better.
Yep yep.
I suggest that we all post some form of reads list Night 1 before the first kill. If not then, then at the start of D2.

Edit: If not before the D1 lynch.
I think the second half of D1 (so, tomorrow) would be a good time assuming everyone has started posting by then. There always seem to be at least a few inactives tho. I don't dare discuss reads at night unless it's seconds before night kill XD










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Kit said:
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Yep yep.
I suggest that we all post some form of reads list Night 1 before the first kill. If not then, then at the start of D2.

Edit: If not before the D1 lynch.
I think the second half of D1 (so, tomorrow) would be a good time assuming everyone has started posting by then. There always seem to be at least a few inactives tho. I don't dare discuss reads at night unless it's seconds before night kill XD
The second half of D1 is ideal. xD
Lol, I can see why you wouldn't. Though personally I'd make sure to post all the info I can to help town just in case I'm killed anyway.
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Vadim's List 1.0

[2] Karote Kit, DenjaX
[2] DenjaX Phraze, Ruu
[2] PentaFlare Rinto-kun, Togs

[1] Gruffin -shad-
[1] -shad- callmeLuna
[1] Chione Shinichi-Kun
[1] Kit Chione

Neglect of Duty || Tingle, KOtA, Karote, PentaFlare, logic340, Gruffin

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Vadim said phase is 48 hours.
Forgive old Stalin for the delay.



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@aa-dono My vote is no longer on Karote.
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@aa-dono My vote is no longer on Karote.
Fixed. Thank you.

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u know u guys suuck lol 3 freaking pages fun times begin now


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Shinichi-Kun said:
u know u guys suuck lol 3 freaking pages fun times begin now
Better than being stuck in RVS, I suppose. :P
I'd like to see your thoughts on the game after catching up.
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karote for sure skipped over the rvs phase ruu im not sure about i think he just voted for voting sake. Karote already looking to get someone lynched i dont even see much pressure from his vote because denja isnt on right now.


Who cares if he isn't.
People are still reacting over it like you.


cool what does my reaction tell you bby :D


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Gruffin said:


Shinichi-Kun said:
same place you always get it at through votes but being too focused on 1 person this early is silly.

Also from justthe 1st page u can gather information alone so you shh.
Have you gathered anything from Page 1?

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karote for sure skipped over the rvs phase ruu im not sure about i think he just voted for voting sake. Karote already looking to get someone lynched i dont even see much pressure from his vote because denja isnt on right now.
You seem to be suspicious of Karote. Could you show me Karote's posts that tell you they want to get someone lynched right now?


No free handouts for you gruffin even tho i love playing with you lol


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I don't have time to answer fast and more detailed but my main suspects are Kota, shad and penta maybe. I want more activity from them and everyone else who is inactive.



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@Shinichi-kun you still haven’t answered this:
What is your plan to ensure we lynch a mafioso?


@Kit Welcome, comrade! You have some catching up to do.



if i had a plan i gladly tell you but on a serious note i missed this question if u asked me before i left for work.

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Vadim: Shinichi-kun
@Karote @Logic340 Join me?


Was wondering how long this would take to happen.

You got my attention so cool now what?


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I was thinking it was a sign of being passive town, lol. He got annoyed with me questioning him last game too.
To tell the truth, I have no reason to poke you, just carry on with what you're doing. :P

Edit: Gosh darn code. >.<
It could very well be a sign of passive town which I have seen a lot of lately. Passive town have made for some very interesting games of late.


I normally dont like to refer to meta but isnt rinto like this every game?


Dec 15, 2016 9:03 PM

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Is there a specific reason you chose Shinichi?
He's the only one who's caught my interest so far. I think a train on him can earn us some nice info and possibly get all my questions answered. What do you think of his posts so far?


Voting doesnt do much on me cause i still only answe what i want to answer and i just ignore the rest lol


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Could you point out the posts that caught your interest and explain?

Edit: Realized this is my 666th post. ←~(o `▽´ )oΨ
#66 Here I answered something Karote asked of Phraze. Kit picked up on it too in post #91 My question was answered in #74 but does that really answer the question I asked? Also everything else that was said made it all sound negative which I asked about in post #81. Also I am not sure how well Karote and Shinichi know one another but Karote's answers and responses seem rude to me for no apparent reason.
"Where do you expect information to come from in the first place, smartass? xD" Is this this trying to evoke a reaction from onlooker, shinichi himself, or just the way they write? I don't expect you to have the answer but these are the questions that came into my mind. If it was me as town would I do it? As mafia what would be the benefit? Etc.


karote introduced me to this club if that means anything also karote always sounds rude lol


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Vadim: Shinichi-kun
@Karote @Logic340 Join me?


I like my current vote, soz.


cool now i have a reason to town read karote lol


Dec 15, 2016 9:13 PM

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Greetings, citizens!

Btw guys if were looking for German people, Chione is from there.

We should get her.

Vadim: Chione


as stupid as this is, the reasoningbehind it actually makkes sense,

#denjaforpresident


Dec 15, 2016 9:15 PM

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Gruffin said:
Fluff corner:


DenjaX said:
Hmmm.. This game seems to have many exploitable trump cards. xDD
And by that you mean...?

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#66 Here I answered something Karote asked of Phraze. Kit picked up on it too in post #91 My question was answered in #74 but does that really answer the question I asked? Also everything else that was said made it all sound negative which I asked about in post #81. Also I am not sure how well Karote and Shinichi know one another but Karote's answers and responses seem rude to me for no apparent reason.
"Where do you expect information to come from in the first place, smartass? xD" Is this this trying to evoke a reaction from onlooker, shinichi himself, or just the way they write? I don't expect you to have the answer but these are the questions that came into my mind. If it was me as town would I do it? As mafia what would be the benefit? Etc.
Hm. Playstyle or aggressive scum? I'm understanding you and Kit's uneasiness more now.

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I like my current vote, soz.
I thought you wanted a counter-train in #67? Well, I suppose you are on the Denja train, but I think there are plenty of posts already to start giving non-RVS votes. Why do you still like your RVS vote on Denja?
You never gave counter-train suggestions when I asked either. Any reason for that?


pointing out fluff is the same as posting fluff because it means nothing u know this right lol.


Dec 15, 2016 9:18 PM

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DenjaX said:
Eyyy, my bratan @Astros . Could you answer this for me?

1. Does the mafia know the identity of the town they killed?
2. Does search party also influence on uncovering the identity of the killed town during the night depending on where they last searched?

I want to know our exact duties as Soviet citizen so that we can maximize our jobs and report them german spies to Vadim!!!

On a serious note this screams town mindset just saying.
Protect the motherland!!!! URAAAAAA


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Karote said:
logic340 said:
#66 Here I answered something Karote asked of Phraze. Kit picked up on it too in post #91 My question was answered in #74 but does that really answer the question I asked? Also everything else that was said made it all sound negative which I asked about in post #81. Also I am not sure how well Karote and Shinichi know one another but Karote's answers and responses seem rude to me for no apparent reason.
"Where do you expect information to come from in the first place, smartass? xD" Is this this trying to evoke a reaction from onlooker, shinichi himself, or just the way they write? I don't expect you to have the answer but these are the questions that came into my mind. If it was me as town would I do it? As mafia what would be the benefit? Etc.


Sorry, I'm just excited to play the game so I rushed things. :D
Don't mind me.

But yes, me and Shinichi go way back.


Woah karote actualy showing excitement :O im so happy i jjoined this game. Like the first time ive ever seen u so super serious. Your def leaning more towards town than anything.


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I just realized ddenja basically started a counter train by voting chione with me lol not so sure if thats a town or scummy move.


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Shinichi-Kun said:
No free handouts for you gruffin even tho i love playing with you lol
-_-
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You got my attention so cool now what?
I actually didn’t keep my vote on you, so nothing now except more questions.
Shinichi-Kun said:
Voting doesnt do much on me cause i still only answe what i want to answer and i just ignore the rest lol
Nice to know.
Shinichi-Kun said:
pointing out fluff is the same as posting fluff because it means nothing u know this right lol.
I wasn’t? The “Fluff Corner” was just where I put my own fluffy posts so I wouldn’t clutter the thread.
Dec 15, 2016 9:38 PM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
Karote said:


I like my current vote, soz.


cool now i have a reason to town read karote lol
What an odd reason to townread Karote. I'm surprised this is the post that jumped out as town to you.
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Woah karote actualy showing excitement :O im so happy i jjoined this game. Like the first time ive ever seen u so super serious. Your def leaning more towards town than anything.
Not sure what to think about this post.

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Dec 15, 2016 9:55 PM

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@Shinichi-kun What do you think of the way Karote has been playing so far? Is it normal for Karote to give you a pass when you accuse them of something?

Edit: Grammar fix


coming from kaorte yes lol hes literally ignored me before so its def plausible

stop trying to meta read him >_>


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Kit said:
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I agree. Let's get Karote instead.

Vadim: Karote
Thought you weren't worried about your train, now you're saying there's scum on it? What are your reasons for voting Karote? And what did you mean by "segregation duties"?


where did denja say karote was scum? anywone on his train for that matter?


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Just log into mal let me read up lul

Thanks to vanitystar for making it
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I don't have time to answer fast and more detailed but my main suspects are Kota, shad and penta maybe. I want more activity from them and everyone else who is inactive.


they posted the lease tho why are they your suspects?


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Gruffin said:
Shinichi-Kun said:
No free handouts for you gruffin even tho i love playing with you lol
-_-
Shinichi-Kun said:
You got my attention so cool now what?
I actually didn’t keep my vote on you, so nothing now except more questions.
Shinichi-Kun said:
Voting doesnt do much on me cause i still only answe what i want to answer and i just ignore the rest lol
Nice to know.
Shinichi-Kun said:
pointing out fluff is the same as posting fluff because it means nothing u know this right lol.
I wasn’t? The “Fluff Corner” was just where I put my own fluffy posts so I wouldn’t clutter the thread.


oh i read that wrong then i thought u were showcasing someone elses fluffy

excuse my nonsense im tired lol


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Gruffin said:
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cool now i have a reason to town read karote lol
What an odd reason to townread Karote. I'm surprised this is the post that jumped out as town to you.
Shinichi-Kun said:
Woah karote actualy showing excitement :O im so happy i jjoined this game. Like the first time ive ever seen u so super serious. Your def leaning more towards town than anything.
Not sure what to think about this post.

Edit: Grammar


not really odd the fact that hes keeping his vote where it is is town mindset. Means he know his vote has much more it can do, plus if he scum it would have made more snse to follow the train.


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Oh lol, a tiebreaker. Maybe I'm not understanding but that seems complicated XD I'm not sure it would work if you expose the plan so quickly
Nah, I just realized that we have no protector roles so it's pointless xDD


there is no anything

its just vanilla town vs vanilla scum


Dec 15, 2016 10:27 PM

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On page 4 tho i skipped to 5 reading most of that page

anyways its weird to see so much posts but penta not being a part of any of it

also chione seemed to just vanish


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