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Dec 23, 2016 9:16 PM

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DenjaX said:
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LucianRoy said:
Denja, when do we get the search results?
Host said that we might get the results before the end of night phase but I am not sure when exactly. This night phase is 72 hours. If we get an answer, people who would probably die can still get their input out before they die. xDD
let's hope for the best
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Once again, I am not very good at behavioral reads as I am the type of player who relies on strategies, deceptions, and crafty plays on any alignments. I started playing mafia with role madness right off the bat so the learning curve was too high for me and I got used to relying on abilities rather than finding scum through their behaviours. So I apologize for anything that might be wrong but I will try to attempt with some reads on the following people of interest:

Karote - Karote is just being Karote. Doing his own thing and not try getting any attention regardless of his alignment. What interests me is that my vote and his vote were always on the opposition for every lynch. We did not really clash and we even just joke on each other when we interact. For someone who does not know what I am up to, it is weird that he did not find me scummy even though I intended my actions to be scummy. I am not sure if it is because he knows how I play or is it about me rounding up people to become my allies instead of rounding up scum to lynch which makes it very hard to build a case against me. Regardless, his play has been very lurkish to the point that he is getting PoEd. It is just a matter of time. He is the first one I attempted to put into the test because I know I can never read him but I never really fully committed to it. I just throw in pressure votes for him and supposed to hammer his D1 lynch but unfortunately, mistakes happened so it makes my feel about him throw out the window and attempt to go back to square 1. In Day 2, I instantly voted for him again and attempted to get his reaction together with any potential sheeping. It failed but I miraculously gathered reactions from potential allies and immediately marked as the start of my townblock. Besides Day 1, Karote only voted one person per phase. He has given a couple of input and never tried to pressure other people that is why he only has 1 vote for the entire phase. Interestingly, he went missing for a huge chunk on Day 2 along with Kota when things cooled down after the events of Day 1. One thing for sure that I had established before, Karote and Kota can't be scumteam. To make Karote scum, he will be PoEd thanks to the modkills. But does that make Karote scum? Not entirely, but he is getting bad as time went by unless he starts playing his cards right.

Togs - yeah he also makes posts that surely rubbed people the wrong way but with his kind of activity, he is gonna get modkilled as well. Not gonna pressure him much unless he starts getting active again since for me, it indicates that he wants to preserve himself as much as possible when he should be aware that his inactivity is detrimental for town. If he is truly a townie, he can either provide a very thorough reads to make up with his absence or accept the modkill. I'd be suspicious if he just appear just to not die. Modkills can be really useful too to add more deaths besides lynch since we can only lynch 1 at a time whereas modkills can help us thin the number of suspects in one go so we do not have to collect more night kill corpses and we lynch a lot of suspects. In long term, town might ran out of trusted townies before we lynch all the suspects that is why modkills have their own advantages. I still don't like modkills though but what can we do xDD

LucianRoy - He repped Shinichi-kun but even Shinichi does not provide anything useful for me to see whether the repped player would still be acting the same or not. If I look at meta, Lucian is not posting enough so he must be scum lel. Lucian can spam the whole thread by himself when he could and provide useful reads and information to help solve the game. This time, there's not as much as I would have hoped for. Dude is busy travelling all over the world after all. xDD He seemed to not afraid of approaching me even I make myself look dangerous by flaunting my threats and gathering members for my cult. He is looking good in my book but I find it hard to accept when I've recognized him for being clever and still not joining my damn cult. xDD

Chione - she caught me off-guard when she decided to join the lynch against Penta instead of telling us why should we lynch Kota instead. I admit that I would have preferred Kota lynch over Penta lynch that phase because I know Penta can be very useful when he's town. I just decided to stay for Penta because of the reasons I stated earlier and I also feel like his lynch would be the most informative one compared to Kota. Chione has been contributing to the game very well and I like her activity overall. I'm really not sure what to make of her actions but I also want to factor in the time since the lynch on Penta was yet another last minute voting. I have yet to see her opinion on what she thinks about the Penta lynch.

Kota - basically what I would say against Penta. I'm giving him this 72 hour time to say about his case against me, otherwise, it will be Penta all over again. xDD This is like TellTell games for me. I can either choose Penta or Kota but I just went with Penta to see how Kota would do later in the game. xDD

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Dec 23, 2016 10:36 PM

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@Karote what do you think about the Phraze lynch?

@Chione why did you not convince us to lynch Kota over Penta?

@Rinto-kun Are you my comrade?

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Dec 24, 2016 6:21 AM

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@Chione why did you not convince us to lynch Kota over Penta?

We only had like 7-8 minutes left. It'd have been a mess if I had tried to convince you guys last minute, and I didn't want to risk another no lynch, because we are probably sure to loose another active person this night and like I said, no lynches do not get us anywhere.
What was remarkable about the train is that all of the people Gruffin considered town were on there, and I decided to trust Gruffin's judgement. I only very scarcely skimmed through the thread before having to make a decision of whether to push the KOtA train and run into the risk of causing a no lynch again/causing panic or trust in the people who are most likely town.
Problematic for me was also that I wasted too much time before the lynch. I originally planned to read back onto Penta and then judge whether it is worth a shot or not, but in the end I only had like 20 mins left and and that's no time to judge anyone. I did get some very little scummy notions here and there like the questions he left unanswered and some seemingly far fetched reasons to town read/scum read people, if it counts for anything, however, KOtA still had more things pointing towards him.
In the end, if Penta wouldn't have died this phase we probably would have lynched him next phase either way.
To be fair, I could have tried to push the KOtA train in the last few minutes, and who knows, maybe I should have, nevertheless, playing it safe that risking even more of a disadvantage for town seemed better for me. I mean, we're already in a shitty situation with the no lynch on D1 and all the inactives and scarce reads.
Dec 24, 2016 6:44 AM

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If I look at meta, Lucian is not posting enough so he must be scum lel.

That's actually so true, LOL. Another policy lynch right there.

Not even sure why you are discrediting your behavior analyzation abilities cause it looks legit to me.
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If I spammed the thread, no one would be happy. Not even me.

I'm also not a huge fan of making real posts during the night phase. It's gotten me killed in the past.
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Dec 24, 2016 10:37 AM

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With the added day I think I will use the time to re-evaluate everyone who isn't cleared through. In doing this I will look at the things they have said and what they have actually done, do they hold people to similar standards (why and why not), and possible town/scum mindset behind actions to gauge behavior. Also I will be looking for things that could be considered defense of another player. Either by soft/hard defending a specific player or by making someone else the focus of the of discussion.

Somethings that are bothering me:
-No one has really broken down my cases and discussed how they feel about them among yourselves or with me. No one has asked me to clarify anything in particular from any of those cases.
-Some people don't believe DenjaX is Town. From my PoV this mean he has pocketed me yet no one has talked to me about that possibility.
-My entire case for Rinto=town has not been discussed. If you agree/disagree make you thoughts known. If you think I am being biased or I am scum white knighting him please speak up.
-I have no experience with KOta. I don't want a meta write up of this player but I would like to know about past experience with this player. From my PoV he looks like a new player but it seems that others have played with him before. I think a little insight into KOta's mafia history could help me to make heads or tails of this player
-Karote doesn't seem to have read my posts. I have asked them if they read my past (specifically the ones they asked about) but I cannot seem to find a response to them. It's a bit frustrating to have someone tell you they do not agree with you yet not stated their reasons for disagreeing.
-My case against Karote has not been discussed. I did Karote, Gruffin did KOta and neither one of them got discussed. I think we need to have a discussion about those two cases.
-Passes, who has gotten a pass and who hasn't? Why do you feel someone was given a pass and was another player given a pass for similar reasons. If not why are the two situations different?
-Why so many were ok with PentaFlare casting votes when they had admittedly not fully caught up with the thread? How can you have faith in Penta's vote when they do not have the information needed to make that type of decision? (This question is for everyone but DenjaX).
-KOta feels more like scum giving up than frustrated town to me at this point
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Merry Christmas Comrades!! Even you German Spies I hope everyone has an enjoyable and blessed day. Be safe out there.
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yeee whats up with that waitlist?

Alice would have been a great addition. xDD

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KOtA said:
sorry for taking so long bc i'm a slow reader (3h <.< wtf me)

@Gruffin


@Chione


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edit : read mine opinion/reads
in this post you said that Chione vs. Logic was Town vs. Scum do you still feel that way? If so who is town and who is scum?
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Who here has played with Comrade Astros before? I ask this because as I read through the thread again I can't help but feel KOtan played very similarly to Astros. It surprises me how similar this feels to the Astros mislynches in Hirugashi and Nantsu games. I'm not saying it is alignment indicative but it's made me look more into the whole Karote/KOta D1 situation. Through it all I think I've felt that Karote looks worse than KOta.

I'll post links to my cases later. I also want to discuss something once we know how many scum are left. If there are two I think I might know ego they are.
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I wish results arrive sooner so I can focus :/

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logic340 - Town: No explanation needed I know my role
DenjaX - Town: At first I didn't know what to think about his play. His behavior has made it quite clear to me which side he is on.
-shad- - Town: This one I am fairly sure of. Astros left a hint in one of the Flavor messages and I believe that -shad- picked up on it.
Rinto-kun - Town: After re-reading my cases and reading what Chione had to say about Rinto-kun I am still convinced the Rinto is town
LucianRoy - Leaning Town: I really want this player to be town (that isn't enough though) but I was neutral on Shinichi. He seems to be actively trying to figure things out, his reactions, and questions seems to come from a town mindset.
KOtA - Neutral: I really need reasons that you guys believe KOta is scum. As stated earlier in the Phase I believe that KOta plays very similarly to Astro. What KOta is doing is pretty much what Town Astros has been mislynched for in two games played with me.
Chione - Neutral: I have to admit after our first exchange I have let this player fly under the radar. After looking back at D1 there are some things that look questionable to me (I will address these before phase change).
Togs - Neutral leaning scum: This guys is said to be a great end of game town player. Let's hope he is town and becomes part of the action if he isn't Modkilled.
Karote - Neutral leaning scum: As stated earlier I feel they have looked worse than KOta since D1. Also I have asked plenty of questions of Karote which have gone unanswered. I would normally not hold this against someone but the answers to these questions my prove to be alignment indicative so I have to keep that in mind as well. I will lay out a post with Questions for Karote that haven't been answered.

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logic340 said:
in this post you said that Chione vs. Logic was Town vs. Scum do you still feel that way? If so who is town and who is scum?

not really , but if i had to choose i'd say you're more town , to me at least


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@KOta What do you think about my reasoning for getting PentaFlare lynched? Was it good reasoning? Do you think we hit scum with that one?
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DenjaX said:
I wish results arrive sooner so I can focus :/
You've all had three days to focus on other things.
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A big part of me feels that there are two scum left. If this turns out to be true then I think that the scum team is Chione and Karote.

New case against Karote:
#362 - Votes for KOta give no reasoning. Other players are talking about inactive players at this time so KOta was part of the conversation before this Vote was case without reason. Also this is the first of the Votes for KOta on D1.
#363 - Denja says that Karote is part of togs/logic/karote scum team
#366 - "How did you know? *falls on knees" This response has always rubbed me wrong, what is the need if Karote really is town?
#367 - This is from Gruffin's read list "Karote - Has had questionable actions/answers, but I can see both town and scum motivation from them. I liked their answers to my questions, will set aside for now."
#399 - This is from Kit's read list "Seem scum, actions seem anti-town/doesn't seem to do much in favor of town: Karote"
#410 - Ruu's reasons for suspecting Karote "- I liked that he started a train because I believe trains helps us get pass RVS. good
- (Intentionally? >_>) Misinterpreted Phraze post about our votes (#63) red flag
- Asked Gruffin if she wants to start a countertrain (#67) weird
- imo he didn't respond to Logic's question (#74). red flag
- His response to Kit in #110 and #111 is another red flag Seriously Karote? -_-
- He unvoted. Why? I usually change my vote or unvote and vote for someone different a few posts later. He tied the votes by doing that, weird move. red flag
- votes for Kota without explanation. I at least say "explanation coming soon" or something xDD"
1. Fair enough but I can see town and scum motives behind this one. Scum starting early train to have it fall apart, as Shinichi said RVS train could last until EoD or it could put undue focus on DenjaX. I killed trains that had been on Scum so I can see the town mind behind forming trains early. Neutral on this.
2. This one is blatantly clear. They changed what Phraze had said then tried to make it seem like it was me and Kit who was having trouble understanding. One more thing that bothers me about this is that Chione actually defended Karote over this point. Ruu/Kit/logic all saw that Karote completely changed the meaning of what Phraze said yet Chione doesn't make mention of it and even says that Karote's way of thinking is easy to follow. This shouldn't be the case here since it was either a frame job by Karote or a misunderstand; either of which does/did make it hard to follow Karote's reasoning
3. I actually liked this, but can see both scum and town motive behind it. Asking Gruffin to start a counter train is fine because it gets two people in the lead causing reaction and discussion, I can also see this from the view that Kit laid out which is that Karote wanted Gruffin to start a counter train to hide their own scummyness. I think I lean more towards what kit was thinking but I will remain neutral on this one.
4. Shit even Ruu noticed early that Karote was ignoring my questions.
5. #110 we all kow what happened here. 111 This was a very weak defense of themselves from Kit who is using sound arguments.
6. The unvote didn't stand out to me because Gruffin and I ddi the same thing around the same time but now that I think about it with Gruffina and myself being town and doing it that may have provided some good cover for Karote to unvote and look for a better target as well (scum mindset). The other option is they were doing what Gruffin and I were doing (town mindset).
7. IDK about the "explanation coming soon" part from Ruu but it has rubbed me the wrong way that Karote cast this vote without giving a reason. I can see more of a scum mindset behind this one. Now before you all start saying but DenjaX does the same thing
-I can confirm from my PoV that DenjaX is Town so they get leeway here
-Karote's explanation for the vote comes much later

#504 - my read list "Looking Spy
-shad-, Tingle, and Karote"
#508 - Chione says "I'm 86% convinced that Gruffin is town, little doubts came up when he swayed from his KOtA vote and went for Karote instead. Just after he said that we should use our votes to poke peeps" I see this as a soft defense of Karote. Before this Chione had said Karote is being Karote but never told us if that means Karote is Town or Scum?? Here Chi says they read Gruffin as town except for the move off KOta to Karote...this feels weird why/how does Chione know Karote's alignment to feel one way or the other here?
#508 - More from Chione on Karote "I still think that people are still too caught up with Karote's playstyle. Maybe you should focus on his votes instead, they're way more interesting to look at" I have to disagree here. Chione has made many arguments about playstyle but this time I completely disagree. What Kit, Gruffin, Ruu and I picked up on were not playstyle but actual behaviors. (if someone disagrees please make it know)
#508 - More from Chione "Phraze says KOtA and Karote could be possible scum and votes for KOtA, sounds like he's just hanging himself onto the train." This feels like discrediting Phraze in an attempt to make us not think about the players being voted. I view this as a soft defense of Karote on Chione's part
#508 - More from Chione "Vadim: KOtA @logic340 join me?" I had just put out a reads list 4 posts prior saying I though KOta was Town and Karote was scum why would I vote KOta over Karote?? (I view this as more defense of Karote).
#692 - This is from Gruffin's read list "Karote: I’m having a hard time reading him still. I can see town and scum motivations in every post. He did say something about doing better once there’s lynches/NKs, so we’ll see."

I have to agree with what Kit said about Karote, I can honestly say that at that point and as the game has continued on I ask myself what has Karote done that I can say is in favor of town? The answer I come up with is nothing...nothing much anyway. I durely don't view Karote the same way that Chione does. If someone can point out something Townie about Karote I would surely like to see it. The two townies I trusted the most early died while suspecting Karote. I can honestly say that this was not used as a frame job to make Karote look guilty by scum as Karote went completely unquestioned on D2. N2 Gruffin was focused on KOta while I did my case against Karote so while Gruffin was still suspicious of Karote it seems they were more focused on KOta (Possible Frame Job). Chione has come to Karote's defense multiple times on D1 which has lead me to believe that they could be a team.
Karote was leading the vote, Chione was the first to talk about KOta (while discussing inactive players) but votes tingle instead. Karote moves to KOta for no specified reason. Chione's jump from tingle to KOta is easily explained as Tingle is not active so no point in keeping my vote there.


Chione
#508 - Questioning of Gruffin's vote move from KOta (inactive) to Karote (suspicious active) raises some red flags with me. Why are they defending Karote so hard while at the same time trying to get KOta lynched?
#508 - Asking me to move my vote to KOta when I just stated that I town read him makes 0 sense to me. If I had moved my vote then I look scummy while Karote is no longer in the lead.
#508 - Says Togs is being too safe with reads but to this point I cannot find any of Chione's own reads.
#508 - This whole post pretty much reads as a defense of Karote. I need to know why? At this point Karote is the scummiest player and I honestly think looking back that Karote is probably Scum.

@Chione I am going to scum read Karote hard D3 D4. If you do not agree with me then I need some real good reasons for it because what you laid out in #508 is not cutting it. Picking Rinto and KOta over Karote is looking like scum protecting scum to me so I will ask you to give me some good reasons that you are not scum buddies.

Edit: changed D3 to D4
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At this point I believe that PentaFlare/Chione/Karote could possibly be the scum team and if there are 4 then IDK who the 4th is. If it's only 3 I would be willing to wager that this is them. Chione has tried to save both Karote (actually worked D1) and PentaFlare (didn't work D3 finally caved and voted for PentaFlare due to DenjaX pressuring imo). I was waiting to see if someone would try to save Karote and it ended up being Chione. I brushed this off because I was town reading Chione but looking back I wish that I hadn't.
Outside of DenjaX, Gruffin, and myself, Chione has had little to no suspicion on them (from anyone besides me). I think that all town read players need to be looked at a little closer. This is why I am so alarmed that no one has said they feel that I have been pocketed by DenjaX or even that we are the two scum running shit.

I know I said Togs/KOta would be my main suspects to start D4 but now I am going to go with Chione and Karote. Chione and I have had two big arguments and I have to ask myself why they happened? I will be looking over both of them to see if they are just misunderstandings or if their was some motive behind Chione's actions.
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So after looking back at my evidence and the way that Penta attempted to save themselves I have to say I am even more confident that we hit scum on this one. Things that stand out to me the most:
-Picking on the town block when making scum reads. First Gruffin (confirmed), then me, lastly DenjaX. The three of us were going to be hard to make cases against even Denja so I find it odd that they go from these three who would be very interesting cases to read to KOta who was the easiest to throw a vote on D3.
-Saying they would provide reasoning for the way they voted -shad- and never did it.
-Never provided a scum read on Denja before just throwing a vote on KOta (this was reminiscent of how Karote voted KOta D1 before sharing reasons later on).
-Not taking me and DenjaX up on our compromise. DenjaX straight up said don't vote. I offered a compromise in which I would have protected PentaFlare. Penta was not going for it. #1487
-#1493 Penta says "You don't need to know that. I know that and I decide where my vote goes, not you." If someone can show me the town mindset in this post I would really like to hear it.
-#1495 Penta accused me of trying to control them. Is this due to my comprise or is there something else I am missing?
-#1499 Penta says "Why is that a risk if I think KOtA should be lynch and you think they shouldn't?" I have to question this one. They have yet to fill us in on their thoughts up to this point after being MIA and then we are just supposed to believe that they know enough to make a good choice? With the exception of DenjaX I want to know why everyone else was cool with letting PentaFlare vote twice when they didn't have all the needed information? What part of voting when not caught up is a townie mindset?
-#1504 accusing me of forcing my opinions on others when I am having trouble getting people to even read my posts in their entirety.
-#1505 - After 40 minutes of arguing about it is finally willing to give reasons for KOta vote.
-#1518 - A full hour after the KOta vote they finally give their reasons. KOta is suspicious of Denja and Karote (voted Karote). I don't see how Penta can even use this as an argument when they had not given their read on DenjaX yet cast a vote on KOta. Isnt this pretty much what they are accusing KOta of doing? Penta talks about being secretive doesn't help but that is what they had been doing to that point. Penta's reasons for voting KOta sound like their own reasons for not answering in #1493 "You don't need to know that. I know that and I decide where my vote goes, not you."

So yeah looking back at everything not even counting the D2 shenanigans I can say I feel really good about this lynch.
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@DenjaX, @LucianRoy, @Chione, @Karote, @Togs, @KOta, @-shad-, @Rinto-kun

We only have an hour left before the start of the next phase. I hope we have everyone active D4 (looking at Togs here...lol.) I am re-energized and ready to go (I hope I survive).
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Is Togs like, getting MK'd?
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DenjaX said:
In case I die, I pass my torch to logic and shad. For the Motherland.



Dont pass the tortch to me my bruthur, for i am afraid of failing our motherland.

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There will be a delay in the phase change. Something unforeseen came up and took the last hour I had to deal with. Expect something within the next half hour or so.
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There will be a delay in the phase change. Something unforeseen came up and took the last hour I had to deal with. Expect something within the next half hour or so.

Hey guys, at the time of this post, I had to like, leave in thirty minutes. Don't think I'll be here for phase change.
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If I spammed the thread, no one would be happy. Not even me.

I'm also not a huge fan of making real posts during the night phase. It's gotten me killed in the past.
Spam away my brother.
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Crap I missed the PSN Flash Sale... RIP

The waiting is killing me xDD


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Dec 26, 2016 10:14 AM

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@Astros how many german spies? @.@



Dec 26, 2016 11:19 AM

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Rinto-kun said:
@Astros how many german spies? @.@
@aa-dono

We made a majority this time with the Search right? We need the results of our search.
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Dec 26, 2016 11:33 AM

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DenjaX said:
Crap I missed the PSN Flash Sale... RIP

The waiting is killing me xDD


He literally got killed, lol :p
RIP Denja



Dec 26, 2016 11:34 AM

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Rinto-kun said:
@Astros how many german spies? @.@
I wasn't aware a search party was completed as I marked the game on hold and ignored it for the holidays. That said, me posting the night kill and starting the day was a blunder on my part. I'll delete the night kill, write up a search party then repost it once I return.

I must go for a little while. I will be back in an hour or so and work on a search party post. Till then the thread is on HOLD. Do not post until I settle these difficulties. Apologizes for the delay.
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Astros said:
Rinto-kun said:
@Astros how many german spies? @.@
I wasn't aware a search party was completed as I marked the game on hold and ignored it for the holidays. That said, me posting the night kill and starting the day was a blunder on my part. I'll delete the night kill, write up a search party then repost it once I return.

I must go for a little while. I will be back in an hour or so and work on a search party post. Till then the thread is on HOLD. Do not post until I settle these difficulties. Apologizes for the delay.
whoops didn't see this going to put my post in a spoiler tag sorry about posting while on hold.
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Dec 26, 2016 12:35 PM

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Search Party



The villagers had enough. The fear, the murders, the constant paranoia of each other. They could stand no longer to toil the day away and lose sleep during the night. Something had to be done and had to be done that night! A group of like minded villagers joined hands.

Brothers in labor and of the Motherlands soil they set out upon the village in search of the vile Germans. Ransacking the first house visited by Vadim's trucks they left no book turned or cupboard full. Finding little as most had been taken by the soldiers they turned their search elsewhere. Asking friends to let them in or scouting around their lodgings. They left no stone unmoved and snow undisturbed. After hours of grueling travel and searching, there was a cry of help.

They all rushed to the nearby lake where a villager pointed at strange colored log. Upon further inspection said log was revealed to be what remained of Phraze's corpse who had disappeared nights past. Horrified and filled with rage they scouted the area until they happened upon a small wooden shack. No prints lead in or out of it, but the villagers would not be deterred.

Invading it they searched high and low of what little remained, but found nothing worth until one of the more perceptive pointed out the obvious clue that everyone had missed. In the middle of the shack on the table sat three tin cups half empty of cold coffee. In their rush and stir for answers they had inadvertently notified the German spies of their intentions. Fleeing they covered their tracks, but in their haste had forgotten the trivialities. While their identities remained sound, the town now knew. Three remained.
Dec 26, 2016 12:36 PM

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Day 4




May you stay En Route always Alexandrov Ensemble.


The owl in its perch off to the wayside, bared full witness as the good comrade soon died.
There could be no mistaking the one at bedside, who's vicious riddling grew ever intensified.
With cautious silence they crept until a dangerous slide, had them fall flatly to the ground via backside.
They jumped and scrambled to evade and hopefully hide, until the cold ravages of the night did subside.

Come morning they returned home almost half dead, and immediately after breakfast headed for the bed.
All day they slept hanging on by a thread, only to wake as if bit by copperhead.
Tormented by the murderous images inside their head, they made painful efforts as they quickly fled.
Making like lightning to the distant lone farmstead, blindly they let loose all of their dread.

They chose to confide in a friend, who lead to their most unexpected and abrupt end.





Comrades, the trumpet calls! March! March on!
Your brave brothers march on with you! They on the farside long for your cheer. Make sure they have a blossoming village to come home to after your days of labour. Their glory is your glory.

The rat is cornered now. They have shown their fangs and continue to pester us, but do not lost hope. By the day we haul them off in truckloads and cleanse the Motherland of her vermin. They may at one time been your friends or even family, but do not let that dull you comrades. They can be no friend nor family if they are traitors to the state. The wonderful Soviet Union who gave birth and raised them in the golden fields and harsh white winters. They would see you and your loved ones freezing and starving if able. Remember that, and show them no mercy! They would not show it to you.


@logic340 @Togs @Rinto-kun @KOtA @Chione @Karote @LucianRoy @PentaFlare @-shad-
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Dec 26, 2016 1:02 PM

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Umm... @Astros what about Soda's modkill? xD



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Rinto-kun said:
Umm... @Astros what about Soda's modkill? xD
That happened the day before.
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3 left!!! WTF....so the Scum have been inactive. Since I'm the only fully active player left.I'm going to say togs and Karote are probably scum they've both been saved and both missed a lot of the last two phases.

@Rinto-kun why are you more concerned with the Soda NK than the fact that there are still 3 scum left?
@LucianRoy what are your thoughts?
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@-shad- 3 scum left who are they?
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Dec 26, 2016 2:19 PM

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Only 24 hours this phase.....we need discussion.
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Dec 26, 2016 2:40 PM

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Denja is gone I feel like I'm here alone..Where are you my comrades??
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Aight, guess a lot of people asked me a lot of stuff during the night phase.
Was Penta scum or town?
I honestly don't know the answer to this question at this point. Supposing that one scum died and we started the game with a 3 town to 1 scum ratio, that means that theres been like, 1 scum death out of all the people that died. I guess this question comes down to who was scum between phraze and penta, but it seems wrong to completely disregard modkills b/c the town could've been off with both lynchs and wouldn't even know it. Penta was being his usual argumentative self, picking fights and riling people up. Despite all the dirt logic tried to put on penta I'm still hesitant on whether he just got caught up in holiday mayhem and didn't have time or he was really scum. Like, a lot of his suspicion stemmed from his inactivity, and every player worth his salt knows that's NAI.

General thoughts on the game?
If Tog's doesn't post in the next 24 hours, he's a waste of time, and his ass is getting modkilled by uncle Joe over here.
Karote seems to be sorted scum by Logic, still, does anyone else have a real read on Karote? I actually want to hear more about logic's case for Karote/Chione even though I'm pretty incredulous on one of those players. I read through his new case, but absorbed practically none of b/c I was dumb and stayed up late talking w/ friends. I didn't like the one part where he couldn't think of a single townie thing that Karote did, it felt a lot like "absence of evidence indicative" to me, and that's in-part a fallacy. Yeah, hearing something from Karote himself would be grand and I'm hazarding a guess he's not going to dodge logic again since it's getting really close to the wire in here. Want to hear more about why he thought yesterday was a ML too.
Chione had a point when she yelled at me the other day about securing a lynch in the last moments of the day, as well as following that up with #1604, it just seems so stupid to do it after the drawn out pissing contest with logic tho. Speaking of the penta lynch, did anyone answer my question in 1563? Anyone who was on the penta train, other than logic, is still free to answer it b/c I did not see where people were going with the Penta lynch yesterday.
Shad hasn't done much in terms of contribution, and hearing Logic's recap on why he believes shad is town would be refreshing b/c that sheep on Penta was kinda bleh.
Anything from Rinto would be much appreciated as well.
Logic is somehow comparing Astro's past meta with Kota's current playstyle. I have no clue why he's looking at Astro's meta to explain Kota's disposition.
Kota still hasn't done jack shit and my vote is going on him until he does said shit.

Vadim: Kota
Reads pls. Got brushed yesterday and it left me with a pretty sour impression.
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0/1 scum between Phraze/Ruu/callmeluna/PentaFlare/Soda... at this rate any of them could have been scum or even none of them. Great -.-
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@Chione I am going to scum read Karote hard D3 D4. If you do not agree with me then I need some real good reasons for it because what you laid out in #508 is not cutting it. Picking Rinto and KOta over Karote is looking like scum protecting scum to me so I will ask you to give me some good reasons that you are not scum buddies.

Edit: changed D3 to D4

Well, if you actually got some good reasons then go ahead, you're a person with independent thought process who has come to that conclusion and I don't have much reason to stop you atm. I've made my points several times already so if you still think that my points aren't good enough then I'm sorry, I cannot help you anymore, because it is beyond my abilities to give you insight into my thought process if it hasn't happened by now, and I have no idea how to even try to give you more insight than I already have.
Also I'm pretty sure that I mentioned already that trying to scum hunt by trying to make connections between people before you even know the alignment of one of the parties is just really ineffective in my opinion, but if you've made other experiences then go ahead.
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Sure, Karote could be scum. There's a reason as to why he's neutral and not a town read, he hasn't given me any reason to town read him (but also no reason to scum read him). The only thing I can think of as a possible indicator for him being scum is his generally toned down activity since D1. Make of that what you will.
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