Unofficial Vote Count #.# Abu (3):- laby, yurkin,Re103 Grrr(2)-Abu,Coro Laby (1)-Lucian Yurkin (1)-Grrr Not Voting: flofs, Logic Operating from shin's last VC. So Abu is town, and from the get go, this looks like a problem. We need more votes to lynch lamb. Logic and I usually side with each other's votes, but that's not enough. |
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LucianRoy said: I've only done it as town myself. Thinking back it almost feels like he was giving up the came with a vengeful type ability claim iirc? @ logic, how do you read lamb self-voting when the town blitzed him earlier in the day? Does vengeful count as a killing role? I say we vote lamb let him kill someone on his train if his claim is true but I'm a killing role acc if vengeful ability he claimed is killing then there's a discrepancy here? |
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Labs said: can you explain this in more detail yet?Yeahrp I had 3 and mis-read it koz Chad fuhkken lined them up in the order of how many shots each had -_____- So I read them as abilities 1, 2 and 3 instead of 1, 2 and 3 shots. This is why I had to use bodyguard last night and couldn't jump in-front of scum and tank a bullet lol. I'll explain near the end of the day if it becomes relevant but I have a secondary that applies to someone on my train, though it had to be used within the first half of the day and only resolves if I am the lynch at the end of the day. @LucianRoy what are your thoughts on this? I may have read too much into this thinking vengeful? But I TiVo it's worth discussing now. |
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logic340 said: Labs said: can you explain this in more detail yet?Yeahrp I had 3 and mis-read it koz Chad fuhkken lined them up in the order of how many shots each had -_____- So I read them as abilities 1, 2 and 3 instead of 1, 2 and 3 shots. This is why I had to use bodyguard last night and couldn't jump in-front of scum and tank a bullet lol. I'll explain near the end of the day if it becomes relevant but I have a secondary that applies to someone on my train, though it had to be used within the first half of the day and only resolves if I am the lynch at the end of the day. @LucianRoy what are your thoughts on this? I may have read too much into this thinking vengeful? But I TiVo it's worth discussing now. There are multiple abilities that can trigger upon lynch. Vengeful is only one. Lamb still hasn't given his role an actual title iirc. He certainly does have a lot of fancy abilities. |
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LucianRoy said: he stated it says bodyguard after abilitylogic340 said: can you explain this in more detail yet? @LucianRoy what are your thoughts on this? I may have read too much into this thinking vengeful? But I TiVo it's worth discussing now. There are multiple abilities that can trigger upon lynch. Vengeful is only one. Lamb still hasn't given his role an actual title iirc. He certainly does have a lot of fancy abilities. Ability: Bodyguard |
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Labs said: @LucianRoyNot exactly the role stated. Name, human, innocent. But it does state bodyguard directly following the ability name, before the description. |
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Floofs said: logic340 said: so, who are you suspecting? I would like you to place a vote early this phase. That's not my style. Still don't trust grrr. I think if conq knew something about grrr they would have said trust grrr instead of possibility of grrr being truthful. Also don't like how last gave no real reason to trust grrr over zymf. Where did Last say this? and usually this would be followed up with a vote... --- logic340 said: LucianRoy said: I've only done it as town myself. Thinking back it almost feels like he was giving up the came with a vengeful type ability claim iirc? @ logic, how do you read lamb self-voting when the town blitzed him earlier in the day? Does vengeful count as a killing role? I say we vote lamb let him kill someone on his train if his claim is true but I'm a killing role acc if vengeful ability he claimed is killing then there's a discrepancy here? I've only seen town do it in situations with majority lynching. It's not usually done with plurality lynching because if there's already a train, it usually doesn't have an effect. Still wrapping my head around it. --- logic340 said: LucianRoy said: he stated it says bodyguard after abilityThere are multiple abilities that can trigger upon lynch. Vengeful is only one. Lamb still hasn't given his role an actual title iirc. He certainly does have a lot of fancy abilities. Ability: Bodyguard Ahh, I just checked my pm and that makes sense now. so he's claimed body-guard lynch-activated passive/active and what was the third one? |
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| @Logic340, are you confident you read the interactions between Kit and Floofs as S/T? From reading floof's posts, I felt they were approaching their scumread on Kit in a really roundabout manner, like, it turned out to be correct, but I really don't know how he came to the conclusion of Kit being scum from 1 interaction he had with Abu. Seemed really top-down. If it comes down to it, and we don't get enough votes for lamb, I'm ok with repositioning on Grr b/c PoE. |
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logic340 said: LucianRoy said: I've only done it as town myself. Thinking back it almost feels like he was giving up the came with a vengeful type ability claim iirc? @ logic, how do you read lamb self-voting when the town blitzed him earlier in the day? Does vengeful count as a killing role? I say we vote lamb let him kill someone on his train if his claim is true but I'm a killing role acc if vengeful ability he claimed is killing then there's a discrepancy here? As stated I had to use it based on the current train and before the first half of the day had ended, I probably jumped the gun a bit due to forgetting I had another day on top of that. I had also already targeted you with it, but yee... again, it's only going to resolve if I end up getting lynched. It is however something other than vengeful lol, I'll just have the opportunity to protect you once after having already died. ^This is why I was assuming the beast was a triggered TPR of sorts that should hold killing power and probably had the BP passive, as the amount of protection I have is ridiculous and comes in 3 different approaches. |
LucianRoy said: Floofs said: That's not my style. Still don't trust grrr. I think if conq knew something about grrr they would have said trust grrr instead of possibility of grrr being truthful. Also don't like how last gave no real reason to trust grrr over zymf. Where did Last say this? and usually this would be followed up with a vote... --- logic340 said: I've only done it as town myself. Thinking back it almost feels like he was giving up the came with a vengeful type ability claim iirc? Does vengeful count as a killing role? I say we vote lamb let him kill someone on his train if his claim is true but I'm a killing role acc if vengeful ability he claimed is killing then there's a discrepancy here? I've only seen town do it in situations with majority lynching. It's not usually done with plurality lynching because if there's already a train, it usually doesn't have an effect. Still wrapping my head around it. --- Ahh, I just checked my pm and that makes sense now. so he's claimed body-guard lynch-activated passive/active and what was the third one? The third one was the ability to target someone and force any of their night actions on to me. Flavoured as "selfless leader" which I found out late and the hard way that it was a one-shot..... happy I used it when I got RB'd N2. |
| And lamb, just to clarify, were you RB'd or 'haunted' n2? |
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LucianRoy said: not that confident to be honest. I'm liking Lamb's latesr response and I feel saying he was rb but but haunted was a dangerous move as scum so I'm still waffling on this vote. I'd be willing to vote floofs of you and @Labs are comfortable making him the counter train to abu?@Logic340, are you confident you read the interactions between Kit and Floofs as S/T? From reading floof's posts, I felt they were approaching their scumread on Kit in a really roundabout manner, like, it turned out to be correct, but I really don't know how he came to the conclusion of Kit being scum from 1 interaction he had with Abu. Seemed really top-down. If it comes down to it, and we don't get enough votes for lamb, I'm ok with repositioning on Grr b/c PoE. |
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LucianRoy said: And lamb, just to clarify, were you RB'd or 'haunted' n2? Mine simply stated RB'd Do note that I got the PM N2, which was handled by Cross. I have assumed Logic got his from Chad, given their initial reaction. |
Labs said: LucianRoy said: And lamb, just to clarify, were you RB'd or 'haunted' n2? Mine simply stated RB'd Do note that I got the PM N2, which was handled by Cross. I have assumed Logic got his from Chad, given their initial reaction. @logic340 Wanna confirm/deny that? |
| Also...... have we not seen any other RB claims in any sense throughout the game? Does one even exist lol. |
LucianRoy said: he got his pm from crossbell in chads 's scene it seems. I got both if mine from chad. This may be the reason for the discrepancy?And lamb, just to clarify, were you RB'd or 'haunted' n2? If this is true then floofs could have led ibn hos message from TheConq ave that's why there's no reason why labs was blocked? unvote: Vote: floofs |
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Labs said: LucianRoy said: And lamb, just to clarify, were you RB'd or 'haunted' n2? Mine simply stated RB'd Do note that I got the PM N2, which was handled by Cross. I have assumed Logic got his from Chad, given their initial reaction. Ohhhh, that's the thing about multiple mods. Ok. Working this out. Vote: Floofs Feels way better than lamb rn. |
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| No GF, no Cop and no RB koz Chad is cute. I could also hop on a cute lynch. Vote: Floofs |
Labs said: this admission feels townie to me. I feel like scum world play this differently? LucianRoy said: And lamb, just to clarify, were you RB'd or 'haunted' n2? Mine simply stated RB'd Do note that I got the PM N2, which was handled by Cross. I have assumed Logic got his from Chad, given their initial reaction. Did you ask if even the dead chat rb would be directed at you? If you could pull that role block.it seems unlikely to me you'd also have been the chosen target? Does what I'm saying make sense? |
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logic340 said: Labs said: this admission feels townie to me. I feel like scum world Olay this differently? Mine simply stated RB'd Do note that I got the PM N2, which was handled by Cross. I have assumed Logic got his from Chad, given their initial reaction. Did you ask if even the dead chat rb would be directed at you? If you could pull that role block.it seems unlikely to me you'd also have been the chosen target? Does what I'm saying make sense? This wasn't the first time I had to bring up the matter of where PMs were coming from.... Also I'm not sure if I get what you're saying. I can't target the dead chat. I targeted a player (Zymf in that case) which left un-blocked would have tanked anything he may have done during that night. It's not any form of redirection etc, literally standing in-front of them like a brick wall so they have no choice but to target me. Not sure if that's a role by a specific name elsewhere. If it makes more sense it pretty much reads as such: Target a player, said player must target you tonight. |
logic340 said: Labs said: this admission feels townie to me. I feel like scum world play this differently? Mine simply stated RB'd Do note that I got the PM N2, which was handled by Cross. I have assumed Logic got his from Chad, given their initial reaction. Well, his circumstances in regards to night actions make sense, which in turn makes them sound genuine and thus true. Which is essentially why I don't want to lynch him anymore. Floofs is a better option all-around for PoE purposes, and general scuminess. |
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Unofficial Vote Count #.# Floofs (3)- logic340, LucianRoy, Laby Abu (2):- yurkin, RE1034 Grrr(2)- AbuHumaid, coromandel Yurkin (1)-grrr Not Voting: Floofs I'm ok with this. Would be even more cool if Coro and Re voted in our direction. |
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| Also my first DnD sesh for today is just about to start and that shit takes hours..... can try to F5 here and there but I will otherwise be occupied from here on out. |
logic340 said: LucianRoy said: @TheConquererFeel like we should put something in this "message" to confirm it's really conq. I used to play mafia with Conquerer what felt like ages ago, right? There's got to be some game that nobody else here would remember except him and I. Can't remember what game though. If you are reading this please include something in the message Licuan can distinguish as genuinely coming from you. As much as possible that is. logic340 said: Floofs said: please tag him in posts with information he'll need to help you and us.And make sure to list what game it was from. Since I don't know Lucian, I don't know if they are the type to have forgetfulness :P @TheConquerer Floofs said: does this message end up with things we ask for?I got my message from conq Labs was blocked night 2. Someone in the dead chat says don't trust Zymf (my guess is skittles). Can't fill the 100 word limit cause there is not much to say. Possibility that Grrr might truthful. There is little time left so we better act with haste. |
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logic340 said: logic340 said: @TheConquerer If you are reading this please include something in the message Licuan can distinguish as genuinely coming from you. As much as possible that is. logic340 said: please tag him in posts with information he'll need to help you and us. @TheConquerer Floofs said: does this message end up with things we ask for?I got my message from conq Labs was blocked night 2. Someone in the dead chat says don't trust Zymf (my guess is skittles). Can't fill the 100 word limit cause there is not much to say. Possibility that Grrr might truthful. There is little time left so we better act with haste. Nope. I was thinking one of the incredibly scum-sided mafia games that were held in FG back in the day. P-sure conq played in one of those, ages ago. I know we've definitely played games in MS too. |
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LucianRoy said: I find it quite interesting that there's no mention of you though he's tagging two posts adding him to refer to you in some way for confirmation?Nope. I was thinking one of the incredibly scum-sided mafia games that were held in FG back in the day. P-sure conq played in one of those, ages ago. I know we've definitely played games in MS too. edit: not leaving out the possibility that conch is lazy or just busy and didn't see it |
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| I thought it was a smart idea. But that's not necessarily why I scumread Floofs atm. |
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| If anything that message is coming as really convenient, dont trust zymf stuff, followed by immediate vote by floofs. |
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| Thing that worries me about the claimed role and probability that it lies within town is the fact it's yet another ability that doesn't actually guarantee results, especially being a form of indirect invest.... which meshes well with what I believe we've been dealt. |
| vote: Floofs @lucianroy your PoE is all sorts of messed up. Hope my lynch will clarify a few things for you. |
| Btw if im not wrong phase change has been extended by 2 hours. |
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Floofs said: vote: Floofs @lucianroy your PoE is all sorts of messed up. Hope my lynch will clarify a few things for you. This doesn't change anything really. No defense. Nothing. No actual vote. Nada. Logic and I were just talking about this, but in your case, this appears to me more like an affirmation that my vote is on scum. This is scum conceding. |
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LucianRoy said: Floofs said: vote: Floofs @lucianroy your PoE is all sorts of messed up. Hope my lynch will clarify a few things for you. This doesn't change anything really. No defense. Nothing. No actual vote. Nada. Logic and I were just talking about this, but in your case, this appears to me more like an affirmation that my vote is on scum. This is scum conceding. Enjoy being wrong :D, but I do hope that my lynch will make you reevaluate your PoE. |
| vote: Floofs I can't make it to phase change today but if the vote count is right, then Floofs can make a tie and that's no good. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
| Oh again self-voting, i know these are supposed to gain trust in general, but honestly its simply annoying me than anything. |
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Floofs said: LucianRoy said: This doesn't change anything really. No defense. Nothing. No actual vote. Nada. Logic and I were just talking about this, but in your case, this appears to me more like an affirmation that my vote is on scum. This is scum conceding. Enjoy being wrong :D, but I do hope that my lynch will make you reevaluate your PoE. You see, by saying things like this, you don't really help your situation, as I feel town would want to do when on the chopping block. Usually town would push harder on someone they found scummy, or reason with the people voting them as to why they aren't scum. Simply saying "you're wrong" without an explanation as to why I'm wrong is somewhat counterintuitive. |
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| Re's worries of tied vote hmm |
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| Floof then why don't you vote the one you suspect? |
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| If tie is what worries you change vote: re1031 here <3 edit: bold |
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| @Floofs if there is scum on your train who do you feel it would be? You still have time fight for your townie life (if you're town). Get us as much information to work with as you can before you're lynched. Edit typo |
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LucianRoy said: You see, by saying things like this, you don't really help your situation, as I feel town would want to do when on the chopping block. Usually town would push harder on someone they found scummy, or reason with the people voting them as to why they aren't scum. Simply saying "you're wrong" without an explanation as to why I'm wrong is somewhat counterintuitive. I am helping though. My lynch is going to result in information. I received my message for conq in quotations from the host. I don't think that the host would edit it in any way. Labs is saying that they were roleblocked night 2. It clearly states in the rules under soulless players, what message the player should have received. Since it is in the rules, if the host messed up, they should have corrected it and all parties involved should have been notified by now. There is the possibility that labs was roleblocked, but seeing how many pr's there are, I would think someone else would have claimed that they were rb by now. |
RE1031 said: um...a little early to be worried about this no? see problem solved and just that quickly.vote: Floofs I can't make it to phase change today but if the vote count is right, then Floofs can make a tie and that's no good. Edit typo |
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Floofs said: LucianRoy said: You see, by saying things like this, you don't really help your situation, as I feel town would want to do when on the chopping block. Usually town would push harder on someone they found scummy, or reason with the people voting them as to why they aren't scum. Simply saying "you're wrong" without an explanation as to why I'm wrong is somewhat counterintuitive. I am helping though. My lynch is going to result in information. I received my message for conq in quotations from the host. I don't think that the host would edit it in any way. Labs is saying that they were roleblocked night 2. It clearly states in the rules under soulless players, what message the player should have received. Since it is in the rules, if the host messed up, they should have corrected it and all parties involved should have been notified by now. There is the possibility that labs was roleblocked, but seeing how many pr's there are, I would think someone else would have claimed that they were rb by now. Ok, but that really didn't address either of the two things I was looking for. Who's the last scum? And why should we vote them? |
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Unofficial Vote Count #.# Floofs (5)- logic340, LucianRoy, Laby, Floofs, RE1031 grrr(2)- AbuHumaid, coromandel RE1031 (1)- yurkin yurkin (1)- grrr Not Voting: nadie Correct vc p-sure. |
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