lastwhisper31 said: if we were to go by just the lowest interactions, then my scum team would be Logic, Abhu, and Riku... but unlikely mmm based on the game in general, I would say [logic,Shin,yurkin] and maybe someone else but I haven't found them yet. |
| this thread is so dead... @abhutrash @Shinichi-Kun are you gonna keep your votes on Togs? What do you guys think of logic? |
Ruu said: tbh whats your opinion on both their EoD claims? Im curious...this thread is so dead... @abhutrash @Shinichi-Kun are you gonna keep your votes on Togs? What do you guys think of logic? |
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Ruu said: I'm drunk as hell atm. Give me a sec. Didn't plan on keeping my vote on Togs, just needed some more analysis before I move.this thread is so dead... @abhutrash @Shinichi-Kun are you gonna keep your votes on Togs? What do you guys think of logic? |
abhutrash said: lololRuu said: I'm drunk as hell atm. Give me a sec. Didn't plan on keeping my vote on Togs, just needed some more analysis before I move.this thread is so dead... @abhutrash @Shinichi-Kun are you gonna keep your votes on Togs? What do you guys think of logic? |
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lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: tbh whats your opinion on both their EoD claims? Im curious...this thread is so dead... @abhutrash @Shinichi-Kun are you gonna keep your votes on Togs? What do you guys think of logic? I think abhu's claim is more believable than Chad's. He thought he was had died so there was no need to fake claim. Masons, on the other hand, is a great fake claim that has been used by the mafia. I want to know who is this famous partner of his. That will tell us if this claim is true or not. |
| Vote: logic340 I think this train is reasonable and I was curious about logic's position on Day 1, so I at least feel more comfortable with my vote over here than on an inactive. Ruu said: I'm hesitant to agree about iron tho. From what I've heard from other users and iron himself, this inactivity is standard. If he was to play scum, he'd probably wanna try to pass as a lazy townie.not enough to scum read him. He looks like a lazy townie. I'm not a fan but my vote was mostly because of that reaction post and his comments on riku... I also want to say that RE's assessment of Scarlet is at least plausible. I'm a little uncomfortable with how fast Scarlet was town cleared. Yeah, Scarlet's still a strong town lean for me, but I wouldn't say town confirmed just yet... |
| Also, whoever is Shin's supposed mason partner should really step up. The claim is getting less and less convincing by the hour. |
abhutrash said: Also, whoever is Shin's supposed mason partner should really step up. The claim is getting less and less convincing by the hour. +1 |
lastwhisper31 said: I don't understand this reasoning but I can live with it for now, since I don't have much on Scarlet and would like to see a follow up to her last reads list. I notice you have an eye on logic, I do as well. Especially since most of his day 1 was spent questioning the actions of other players (their RVS votes, leading trains, and overall effectiveness of their posts) without doing much to change the flow. I also don't know if this is just me but most of his posts feel like catch up posts, which is unlike logic... Feel like town!logic would get the most out of one on one interactions.@re1031 well the fact that she brought up that her vote was RVS, kinda makes me feel like she is town, because idk seems like she would let it slide if she was scum because i just pocketed myself... lastwhisper31 said: Given that these are role-less flips, I think there's always going to be wine based on how they died.Time to analyze the EoD Madness of Day one and go through all the hows of the night deaths, and some whys (Less whys though because speculation only creates wine) Mini Iso on logic: @Ruu These are some of my thoughts on logic. I don't think this is his town game either. He's asked a lot of questions but rarely if ever follows up on them. So they feel like filler. I'll have to revisit what happened EoD1 but I think Trash is cleared based on yurkin's vote on him. Want to check out ironace as well. |
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Ruu said: I just feel super uncomfortable with this. On one hand, if he's mafia, then yeah, we want his partner to claim so they can be put on the peek list to see if they're both really town. On the other, having a secret mason can be really helpful especially late game because that's one person we know not to lynch.abhutrash said: Also, whoever is Shin's supposed mason partner should really step up. The claim is getting less and less convincing by the hour. +1 Also, even if someone else claims, what do we do then? Do we believe the claim or is there going to be some way of testing it? My question is basically how would a partner coming out to claim change whether we believe it or not. |
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RE1031 said: I dont agree with everything Ruu does or says, but I do agree after thinking about it, that masons claims are a pretty good safety net for scum, and meta wise I've seen some of Chad role claims, and even with the day phase rolling to an end, it still doesn't feel like a town role claim. I do agree, having a secret mason would be helpful, but with chad being consistently scummy it wouldnt even matter, and whose to say that when the other person claims, that he isnt just as scummy either, its not like when he claims, that all of their scuminess will just be gone with the wind. and we look at how they interact outside their private chat, and who the other player is could say a lot... I understand why you feel it would be better, but in the case of Chad, like I said, he has 24 hours from that post this afternoon to give me a reason hes not scum... I just feel super uncomfortable with this. On one hand, if he's mafia, then yeah, we want his partner to claim so they can be put on the peek list to see if they're both really town. On the other, having a secret mason can be really helpful especially late game because that's one person we know not to lynch. Also, even if someone else claims, what do we do then? Do we believe the claim or is there going to be some way of testing it? My question is basically how would a partner coming out to claim change whether we believe it or not. |
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lastwhisper31 said: RE1031 said: I dont agree with everything Ruu does or says, but I do agree after thinking about it, that masons claims are a pretty good safety net for scum, and meta wise I've seen some of Chad role claims, and even with the day phase rolling to an end, it still doesn't feel like a town role claim. I do agree, having a secret mason would be helpful, but with chad being consistently scummy it wouldnt even matter, and whose to say that when the other person claims, that he isnt just as scummy either, its not like when he claims, that all of their scuminess will just be gone with the wind. and we look at how they interact outside their private chat, and who the other player is could say a lot... I understand why you feel it would be better, but in the case of Chad, like I said, he has 24 hours from that post this afternoon to give me a reason hes not scum... I just feel super uncomfortable with this. On one hand, if he's mafia, then yeah, we want his partner to claim so they can be put on the peek list to see if they're both really town. On the other, having a secret mason can be really helpful especially late game because that's one person we know not to lynch. Also, even if someone else claims, what do we do then? Do we believe the claim or is there going to be some way of testing it? My question is basically how would a partner coming out to claim change whether we believe it or not. the bolded part is why I want him to claim. If his partner is someone I was townreading I will rethink the whole thing and might help me see his posts in a different way. I think I have an idea on who this misterious partner could be and I'm waiting for them to confirm it. Explain to me why a secret mason is better than two confirmed townies. @RE1031 |
RE1031 said: lastwhisper31 said: I don't understand this reasoning but I can live with it for now, since I don't have much on Scarlet and would like to see a follow up to her last reads list. I notice you have an eye on logic, I do as well. Especially since most of his day 1 was spent questioning the actions of other players (their RVS votes, leading trains, and overall effectiveness of their posts) without doing much to change the flow. I also don't know if this is just me but most of his posts feel like catch up posts, which is unlike logic... Feel like town!logic would get the most out of one on one interactions.@re1031 well the fact that she brought up that her vote was RVS, kinda makes me feel like she is town, because idk seems like she would let it slide if she was scum because i just pocketed myself... lastwhisper31 said: Given that these are role-less flips, I think there's always going to be wine based on how they died.Time to analyze the EoD Madness of Day one and go through all the hows of the night deaths, and some whys (Less whys though because speculation only creates wine) Mini Iso on logic: @Ruu These are some of my thoughts on logic. I don't think this is his town game either. He's asked a lot of questions but rarely if ever follows up on them. So they feel like filler. I'll have to revisit what happened EoD1 but I think Trash is cleared based on yurkin's vote on him. Want to check out ironace as well. I'm happy to see I'm not the only one missing town!logic in this game. I completely agree with you. |
RE1031 said: Was typing out a response to argue against this, then realized I actually agree with you, in that the other mason actually shouldn't claim. At worst case scenario, Shin gets lynched Day 2 and flips Town, basically confirming that there is another mason. Said mason can hide out and really help in late game. That being said, I still think a Day 2 Shin lynch without a Mason confirmation would be a mistake. If things stay as they are, a Day 3 lynch seems obvious, but as of now, a Shin lynch is too hasty. Especially when we have other people to suspect.I just feel super uncomfortable with this. On one hand, if he's mafia, then yeah, we want his partner to claim so they can be put on the peek list to see if they're both really town. On the other, having a secret mason can be really helpful especially late game because that's one person we know not to lynch. Also, even if someone else claims, what do we do then? Do we believe the claim or is there going to be some way of testing it? My question is basically how would a partner coming out to claim change whether we believe it or not. Only thing that would complicate this approach would be if Tainted actually was the other mason. I doubt it, but its still is a possibility. |
Ruu said: A second person claiming mason wouldn't fully confirm for town tho. For all we know, there might not be masons in the game.lastwhisper31 said: I dont agree with everything Ruu does or says, but I do agree after thinking about it, that masons claims are a pretty good safety net for scum, and meta wise I've seen some of Chad role claims, and even with the day phase rolling to an end, it still doesn't feel like a town role claim. I do agree, having a secret mason would be helpful, but with chad being consistently scummy it wouldnt even matter, and whose to say that when the other person claims, that he isnt just as scummy either, its not like when he claims, that all of their scuminess will just be gone with the wind. and we look at how they interact outside their private chat, and who the other player is could say a lot... I understand why you feel it would be better, but in the case of Chad, like I said, he has 24 hours from that post this afternoon to give me a reason hes not scum... the bolded part is why I want him to claim. If his partner is someone I was townreading I will rethink the whole thing and might help me see his posts in a different way. I think I have an idea on who this misterious partner could be and I'm waiting for them to confirm it. Explain to me why a secret mason is better than two confirmed townies. @RE1031 |
lastwhisper31 said: More Notes: 1. Ruu, Shin, Pokeit were on tainteds train. IMO none of them are clear... 2. I did not like Shin or Abuh's role claims 3. Scarlet is most likely not scum so shes my def town read because she was voting Yurkin since the beginning of day 1 4. Trash, Me, Iron, Shin, and pokeit all voted tainted at one point 5. Logic is probably another scum, just speculation from his tone and playstyle this game, and how he voted 6. Ironace is also closer to a scum lean because of his general laziness 7. Pokeit and Riku are both in timeout for acting like children day 1 8. Yurkin's votes dont give me much to work with, I need to analyze who interacted with him. Gonna analyze Yurkins posts and who interacted with them now. Important Edit: I completely forgot that pokeit claimed IC this morning... he is def not scum, ignore that 1.Ur basing this off of his town flip? I had reason to believe he could be scum or abhu is all. 2.Uhm why not? 3.That depends on why she placed her vote there if its just rvs and she never decided to change it then it clears nothing 4.:D 5.Explain 6.I can agree here lol 7.Pretty sure both are town anyways or atleast if they aren't lieing. 8.Is this her first time scum? |
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Ruu said: It's about timing more so than anything. As the number of alive players shrinks, the more valuable having even just one confirmed town is. But that makes sense. I guess better to put this case to rest sooner than later.lastwhisper31 said: I dont agree with everything Ruu does or says, but I do agree after thinking about it, that masons claims are a pretty good safety net for scum, and meta wise I've seen some of Chad role claims, and even with the day phase rolling to an end, it still doesn't feel like a town role claim. I do agree, having a secret mason would be helpful, but with chad being consistently scummy it wouldnt even matter, and whose to say that when the other person claims, that he isnt just as scummy either, its not like when he claims, that all of their scuminess will just be gone with the wind. and we look at how they interact outside their private chat, and who the other player is could say a lot... I understand why you feel it would be better, but in the case of Chad, like I said, he has 24 hours from that post this afternoon to give me a reason hes not scum... the bolded part is why I want him to claim. If his partner is someone I was townreading I will rethink the whole thing and might help me see his posts in a different way. I think I have an idea on who this misterious partner could be and I'm waiting for them to confirm it. Explain to me why a secret mason is better than two confirmed townies. @RE1031 |
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I dont wanna give anyone free clears is all, outside of pokeit its hard to see some people as town maybe riku if hes not lieing obviously |
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Shinichi-Kun said: still not helping ur case, keep trying... <15 hours to prove u arent scumlastwhisper31 said: More Notes: 1. Ruu, Shin, Pokeit were on tainteds train. IMO none of them are clear... 2. I did not like Shin or Abuh's role claims 3. Scarlet is most likely not scum so shes my def town read because she was voting Yurkin since the beginning of day 1 4. Trash, Me, Iron, Shin, and pokeit all voted tainted at one point 5. Logic is probably another scum, just speculation from his tone and playstyle this game, and how he voted 6. Ironace is also closer to a scum lean because of his general laziness 7. Pokeit and Riku are both in timeout for acting like children day 1 8. Yurkin's votes dont give me much to work with, I need to analyze who interacted with him. Gonna analyze Yurkins posts and who interacted with them now. Important Edit: I completely forgot that pokeit claimed IC this morning... he is def not scum, ignore that 1.Ur basing this off of his town flip? I had reason to believe he could be scum or abhu is all. 2.Uhm why not? 3.That depends on why she placed her vote there if its just rvs and she never decided to change it then it clears nothing 4.:D 5.Explain 6.I can agree here lol 7.Pretty sure both are town anyways or atleast if they aren't lieing. 8.Is this her first time scum? |
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abhutrash said: Ruu said: A second person claiming mason wouldn't fully confirm for town tho. For all we know, there might not be masons in the game.the bolded part is why I want him to claim. If his partner is someone I was townreading I will rethink the whole thing and might help me see his posts in a different way. I think I have an idea on who this misterious partner could be and I'm waiting for them to confirm it. Explain to me why a secret mason is better than two confirmed townies. @RE1031 I think you are contradicting yourself with this post and the previous one. Why I want Shin's partner to claim? - I think Shin is mafia and he is fake claiming - if his partner confirms his claim we might get two confirmed townies (or we could find another mafia, it all depends) - what's better? to lynch Shin now and find out his alignment and if he is town confirmed his claim or get two confirmed townies and lynch scum thanks to a better town block? |
abhutrash said: Idk honestly what's the best approach, but I wouldn't be interested in lynching Shinichi today unless something else turns up. I can understand why the people who suspect him want him to claim though, but I think logic is someone more suspicious.RE1031 said: Was typing out a response to argue against this, then realized I actually agree with you, in that the other mason actually shouldn't claim. At worst case scenario, Shin gets lynched Day 2 and flips Town, basically confirming that there is another mason. Said mason can hide out and really help in late game. That being said, I still think a Day 2 Shin lynch without a Mason confirmation would be a mistake. If things stay as they are, a Day 3 lynch seems obvious, but as of now, a Shin lynch is too hasty. Especially when we have other people to suspect.I just feel super uncomfortable with this. On one hand, if he's mafia, then yeah, we want his partner to claim so they can be put on the peek list to see if they're both really town. On the other, having a secret mason can be really helpful especially late game because that's one person we know not to lynch. Also, even if someone else claims, what do we do then? Do we believe the claim or is there going to be some way of testing it? My question is basically how would a partner coming out to claim change whether we believe it or not. Only thing that would complicate this approach would be if Tainted actually was the other mason. I doubt it, but its still is a possibility. |
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| Noticed logic asked abhu is Togs best place to start Day 2 with but later on tags Togs and joins abhu to call him out anyways. Slight hypocrisy? |
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Shinichi-Kun said: I dont wanna give anyone free clears is all, outside of pokeit its hard to see some people as town maybe riku if hes not lieing obviously So who is scum for you? Who do you want to lynch today? |
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RE1031 said: abhutrash said: Idk honestly what's the best approach, but I wouldn't be interested in lynching Shinichi today unless something else turns up. I can understand why the people who suspect him want him to claim though, but I think logic is someone more suspicious.Was typing out a response to argue against this, then realized I actually agree with you, in that the other mason actually shouldn't claim. At worst case scenario, Shin gets lynched Day 2 and flips Town, basically confirming that there is another mason. Said mason can hide out and really help in late game. That being said, I still think a Day 2 Shin lynch without a Mason confirmation would be a mistake. If things stay as they are, a Day 3 lynch seems obvious, but as of now, a Shin lynch is too hasty. Especially when we have other people to suspect. Only thing that would complicate this approach would be if Tainted actually was the other mason. I doubt it, but its still is a possibility. I'm okay with either logic or Shin for today's lynch. I think both of them are mafia so today we lynch logic and tomorrow, if Shin's partner doesn't show up, we lynch Shin. I think 3 mafias 1 tpr. But I'm not sure.. |
Karote said: Shinichi-Kun said: I dont wanna give anyone free clears is all, outside of pokeit its hard to see some people as town maybe riku if hes not lieing obviously So who is scum for you? Who do you want to lynch today? I would like you to answer your own question too carrot. |
Ruu said: What if the other mason is someone you're mistakenly reading as scummy though? Shin confirms they're his partner, we lynch one and we're back to the same scenario, except mafia has a target for Night 3. Even worse, what if it is a fakeclaim, the other mafia claims, and you read them as town. Then we're losing.abhutrash said: A second person claiming mason wouldn't fully confirm for town tho. For all we know, there might not be masons in the game. I think you are contradicting yourself with this post and the previous one. Why I want Shin's partner to claim? - I think Shin is mafia and he is fake claiming - if his partner confirms his claim we might get two confirmed townies (or we could find another mafia, it all depends) - what's better? to lynch Shin now and find out his alignment and if he is town confirmed his claim or get two confirmed townies and lynch scum thanks to a better town block? I could see the merit of having the 2nd mason claim either Day 2 or Day 3, though. That being said, if we came together as town and said we want a claim now, that would be better for sorting purposes. So yeah, I guess I am down for pressuring a claim. |
ScarletCelestial said: Again: I only RVSd yurkin because I am BECOMING CONVINCED I'M PSYCHIC. Also: I removed my vote on yurkin about half way through D1. I thought I'd be back before phase change, I wasn't, so didn't have a vote placed anywhere. Guess this answered my point against my brotheres mod notes XD. This doesnthelp u at all |
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ScarletCelestial said: abhutrash said: @Pokeit Could you give us your current alignment reads when you get the chance? As a conf town, they should give some useful insight. riku, too and probably Shin. At least by the end of the Night phase. Mainly because confirmed Townies have more chance of death. ash, you too, especially because you're Vigilante. Flattered to be called confirm townie but at the same time i feel like i am being pocketed which worries me. |
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lastwhisper31 said: vote: Shin u have 24 hours to prove to me you are town, w/o using your claim... @shinichi-kun More curious to know why u think i am scum and why u think my role is scum aligned. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Yeah, it is kinda weird how you were listed as possible scum in Scarlet's yurkin ISO, then she says that... In general, the amount of people called confirmed townies here was concerning. As far as I see it, the only person who's truly confirmed is Pokeit.ScarletCelestial said: riku, too and probably Shin. At least by the end of the Night phase. Mainly because confirmed Townies have more chance of death. ash, you too, especially because you're Vigilante. Flattered to be called confirm townie but at the same time i feel like i am being pocketed which worries me. |
Thats my role idk what ya want from me lmfao Karote said: ironace said: this stuff. lemme look some more edit--why didnt anyone question her again? smh eh. Im back to square 1 And why didn't you? : D I thought she played like always, sharing her thoughts time to time and playing lowkey. Didn't felt anything worthy to attack her for. I mean u could have always pressured her all of us could have instead of just letting her hide away. Karote said: Shinichi-Kun said: Not always but i aint sure if thats considered a bastard role if its done like that. Why aren't you outing your other mason? why should I? U want me to narrow down the targets for mafia to nk? |
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lastwhisper31 said: @re1031 well the fact that she brought up that her vote was RVS, kinda makes me feel like she is town, because idk seems like she would let it slide if she was scum because i just pocketed myself... Her vote was obviously rvs tho so not quite sure what her bringing it up has to do with anything? Btw u changed ur vote before i even got to reply whats wrong? lastwhisper31 said: based on who answers will pretty much confirm if he is scum or not to me... tbh his claim was so bad, tonally seemed fake, same with Abhu's claim... almost felt like he was ok with dying, but then decided maybe i should try a fake claim to save myself... or maybe he just wasnt paying attention to EoD... who knows? Where did i imply i was ok dieing, and on top of that its my claim not sure what else to say XD. |
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Ruu said: this thread is so dead... @abhutrash @Shinichi-Kun are you gonna keep your votes on Togs? What do you guys think of logic? Hes different, but i honestly just believe that cause he doesnt have the freedom to post like he normally does and make such giant analysis. So ya in a sense hes different but i find it hard to believe its because hes scum. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: this stuff. lemme look some more edit--why didnt anyone question her again? smh eh. Im back to square 1 Karote said: And why didn't you? : D I thought she played like always, sharing her thoughts time to time and playing lowkey. Didn't felt anything worthy to attack her for. Shinichi said: I mean u could have always pressured her all of us could have instead of just letting her hide away. Idk, yurkin is that type of player you don't really notice until you need sort out PoE, lmao. Why are you so worried about that? lol It narrows down the PoE and it hurts mafia more anyway if town has 2 more confirmed townies. We benefit more than scum does. |
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Ruu said: lastwhisper31 said: tbh whats your opinion on both their EoD claims? Im curious... I think abhu's claim is more believable than Chad's. He thought he was had died so there was no need to fake claim. Masons, on the other hand, is a great fake claim that has been used by the mafia. I want to know who is this famous partner of his. That will tell us if this claim is true or not. I dont fake claim i suck at it, i am the kind of person even if i am sucm roleblocker ill just claim roleblocker an pray. This is my role and I am town, I didnt want to even have to claim but if i was going to i wouldnt have done it at the last minute. I thought doing it an hour before phase change gave people plenty of oppurutunity took look over it. |
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abhutrash said: Also, whoever is Shin's supposed mason partner should really step up. The claim is getting less and less convincing by the hour. There is no reason for said person to claim tho, you really believe i am lieing about my role which is sad. |
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EoD Votes Analysis:
Conclusion: Abhu is town Shin is still probably scum Logic is most likely scum Ironace is most likely scum… GG I solved the game, everybody go home |
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Shinichi-Kun said: i dont think ur role is scum aligned, i think you are scum and that role claim is a lie, I think you are scum because of the way you've been playing this game...lastwhisper31 said: vote: Shin u have 24 hours to prove to me you are town, w/o using your claim... @shinichi-kun More curious to know why u think i am scum and why u think my role is scum aligned. |
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Usually he's more aggressive as a player in games but this time around is more ''tamed.'' What concerns me is I don't really see him especially scummy nor town-ish and that's a problem x) |
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Shinichi-Kun said: lol, <14 hoursScarletCelestial said: riku, too and probably Shin. At least by the end of the Night phase. Mainly because confirmed Townies have more chance of death. ash, you too, especially because you're Vigilante. Flattered to be called confirm townie but at the same time i feel like i am being pocketed which worries me. |
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lastwhisper31 said: If these games were that easy, we wouldn't be playing, lol.Conclusion: Abhu is town Shin is still probably scum Logic is most likely scum Ironace is most likely scum… GG I solved the game, everybody go home |
lastwhisper31 said: RE1031 said: I dont agree with everything Ruu does or says, but I do agree after thinking about it, that masons claims are a pretty good safety net for scum, and meta wise I've seen some of Chad role claims, and even with the day phase rolling to an end, it still doesn't feel like a town role claim. I do agree, having a secret mason would be helpful, but with chad being consistently scummy it wouldnt even matter, and whose to say that when the other person claims, that he isnt just as scummy either, its not like when he claims, that all of their scuminess will just be gone with the wind. and we look at how they interact outside their private chat, and who the other player is could say a lot... I understand why you feel it would be better, but in the case of Chad, like I said, he has 24 hours from that post this afternoon to give me a reason hes not scum... I just feel super uncomfortable with this. On one hand, if he's mafia, then yeah, we want his partner to claim so they can be put on the peek list to see if they're both really town. On the other, having a secret mason can be really helpful especially late game because that's one person we know not to lynch. Also, even if someone else claims, what do we do then? Do we believe the claim or is there going to be some way of testing it? My question is basically how would a partner coming out to claim change whether we believe it or not. Re actualy summed it up pretty damn well [quote] So not only do u believe i am lieing about my claim which i aint u have some biased belief my mason buddy is scum with me? Seriously i am a little annoyed at this comment what do u mean by my role claims? I mean this is my role so can't really give you much else, and I have no idea what alignment my buddy is but I aint going to just blantly reveal someone role. I don't have to sit here and argue with you over my alignment I have better things to do than to prove to 1 person I am town. I only claimed because if I die only my alignment is shown so it would have better off if you atleast knew i was a mason. |
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abhutrash said: i wish I was a day vig so I could shoot you right now...Shinichi-Kun said: Yeah, it is kinda weird how you were listed as possible scum in Scarlet's yurkin ISO, then she says that... In general, the amount of people called confirmed townies here was concerning. As far as I see it, the only person who's truly confirmed is Pokeit.Flattered to be called confirm townie but at the same time i feel like i am being pocketed which worries me. |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
abhutrash said: RE1031 said: Was typing out a response to argue against this, then realized I actually agree with you, in that the other mason actually shouldn't claim. At worst case scenario, Shin gets lynched Day 2 and flips Town, basically confirming that there is another mason. Said mason can hide out and really help in late game. That being said, I still think a Day 2 Shin lynch without a Mason confirmation would be a mistake. If things stay as they are, a Day 3 lynch seems obvious, but as of now, a Shin lynch is too hasty. Especially when we have other people to suspect.I just feel super uncomfortable with this. On one hand, if he's mafia, then yeah, we want his partner to claim so they can be put on the peek list to see if they're both really town. On the other, having a secret mason can be really helpful especially late game because that's one person we know not to lynch. Also, even if someone else claims, what do we do then? Do we believe the claim or is there going to be some way of testing it? My question is basically how would a partner coming out to claim change whether we believe it or not. Only thing that would complicate this approach would be if Tainted actually was the other mason. I doubt it, but its still is a possibility. Did i reason something wrong? How does me dieing and flipping town confirm the existence of another mason? I just curious seeing as how my role isnt show on death. I mean people can argue all day for me to out my partner but ultiamtely the decision is up to them not me. |
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| So not only do u believe i am lieing about my claim which i aint u have some biased belief my mason buddy is scum with me?lol, no, I dont think ur mason, so you have no buddy... your scum partner doesnt need to be mason to claim mason with you... thats my point, stop acting like you dont understand what I am saying |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
lastwhisper31 said: Shinichi-Kun said: still not helping ur case, keep trying... <15 hours to prove u arent scum1.Ur basing this off of his town flip? I had reason to believe he could be scum or abhu is all. 2.Uhm why not? 3.That depends on why she placed her vote there if its just rvs and she never decided to change it then it clears nothing 4.:D 5.Explain 6.I can agree here lol 7.Pretty sure both are town anyways or atleast if they aren't lieing. 8.Is this her first time scum? Not after this lazy reply |
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