| Vote Count 1.4 Wisp-O (3): Phraze, NewG, logic340 Shinichi (2): Century, Shinichi Karote (1): yurkin NewG (1): RE Phraze (1): Wisp-O Taker (1): Tainted yurkin (1): Karote Not Voting: Scarlet, taker, roz1roz http://itsalmo.st/#lavieennight1 |
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NewG said: So you have no intention of relying on the game mechanics to solve the game? That's new for open set-up. I don't also like your faith in the end. No problem resolves itself, unless by accident.edit: plus it's one more deduction for scum. So nope no claim pls. That problem will resolve itself. |
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RE said: logic340 said: I wanted to leave a vote before I went to bed, I technically should have removed it since I don't think scum would immediately jump into mechanics talk, especially one that would help town significantly.You Even voted him and said it wasn't rvs Now you defend him? Idk which is worse his play or you protecting him now? NewG said: That's a pretty big "if". Town wouldn't know, is the thing, and 50/50 chance of someone being scum sounds pretty good to me, even if we don't lynch/kill them immediately.Fake my ass. I'm the realest of the real, baby. But nice try. If scum does not have the neighbourizer they know they are town. So the only way to dirt them is by pointing them out to town. Read my edit. In that case you're just scaring the neighbourizer away. So, again why point it out, if you yourself are not scum? |
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NewG said: Read my reply ^^Read my edit. In that case you're just scaring the neighbourizer away. So, again why point it out, if you yourself are not scum? Because why miss out on a 50/50 percent chance on knowing who is scum, without endangering any of the more useful roles? |
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| I still say that scum is worried of unknown and that massclaim can hurt them greatly, so they would deny this option. I don't say about role massclaim, but a group massclaim (as of in wich group are you). That alone should give a lot of info. |
RE said: NewG said: Read my reply ^^Read my edit. In that case you're just scaring the neighbourizer away. So, again why point it out, if you yourself are not scum? Because why miss out on a 50/50 percent chance on knowing who is scum, without endangering any of the more useful roles? But WHY call out neighbourizer immediately? Is it necessary? You would only do that as informed scum. |
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NewG said: That's a very bold statement. It isn't necessary and you can play the game normally, but I think it can help because probability. You'd also do it as uninformed town. The role can just as easily be scum's.RE said: Read my reply ^^ Because why miss out on a 50/50 percent chance on knowing who is scum, without endangering any of the more useful roles? But WHY call out neighbourizer immediately? Is it necessary? You would only do that as informed scum. roz1roz said: How so?I still say that scum is worried of unknown and that massclaim can hurt them greatly, so they would deny this option. I don't say about role massclaim, but a group massclaim (as of in wich group are you). That alone should give a lot of info. edit: Anything besides the wild card, I mean. |
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NewG said: RE said: Read my reply ^^ Because why miss out on a 50/50 percent chance on knowing who is scum, without endangering any of the more useful roles? But WHY call out neighbourizer immediately? Is it necessary? You would only do that as informed scum. Also I can't see a scum neighbourizer sacrificing themselves xD Which just enforcens my opinion |
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NewG said: So you're thinking even if we did do this plan, scum wouldn't out themselves as the neighborizer? Wouldn't that draw more attention to themselves?NewG said: But WHY call out neighbourizer immediately? Is it necessary? You would only do that as informed scum. Also I can't see a scum neighbourizer sacrificing themselves xD Which just enforcens my opinion I suppose we can just wait for the first night to pass to see who they choose. |
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RE said: NewG said: That's a very bold statement. It isn't necessary and you can play the game normally, but I think it can help because probability. You'd also do it as uninformed town. The role can just as easily be scum's.But WHY call out neighbourizer immediately? Is it necessary? You would only do that as informed scum. Well, if both you and Shin are town then you screwed up already by mentioning it lol |
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RE said: NewG said: So you're thinking even if we did do this plan, scum wouldn't out themselves as the neighborizer? Wouldn't that draw more attention to themselves?Also I can't see a scum neighbourizer sacrificing themselves xD Which just enforcens my opinion I suppose we can just wait for the first night to pass to see who they choose. Exactly, don't say no more lol |
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NewG said: So either we're scum for wanting it or we screwed up. Why are you so against the neighborizer coming out? If the neighborizer was scum, they wouldn't want that, would they?RE said: That's a very bold statement. It isn't necessary and you can play the game normally, but I think it can help because probability. You'd also do it as uninformed town. The role can just as easily be scum's. Well, if both you and Shin are town then you screwed up already by mentioning it lol See what I did there? That logic can easily be reversed. In the end, it's up them. We'll find out sooner than later, it was a suggestion with probability you can't refute. |
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logic340 said: when do I ever look townie hahaWisp-O said: there was something to bet tho....here on MS We're not in the business of putting out unbalanced games. There's still mystery regardless. You're not feeling townie here wispthere's nothing to bet... This game is about the mystery... unvote: Vote: wisp-o NewG said: :(No, wait let's try this votechange: Wisp-O |
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yurkin said: from what she's posted currently I can't really place her anywhere so just neutral.@wisp-o do u think gwen is scum here? XD |
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Wisp-O said: I don't like this post, it give me a bad feeling.yurkin said: from what she's posted currently I can't really place her anywhere so just neutral.@wisp-o do u think gwen is scum here? XD |
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NewG said: so then why are u voting me xDRE said: Read my reply ^^ Because why miss out on a 50/50 percent chance on knowing who is scum, without endangering any of the more useful roles? But WHY call out neighbourizer immediately? Is it necessary? You would only do that as informed scum. |
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RE said: So either we're scum for wanting it or we screwed up. Why are you so against the neighborizer coming out? If the neighborizer was scum, they wouldn't want that, would they? See what I did there? That logic can easily be reversed. In the end, it's up them. We'll find out sooner than later, it was a suggestion with probability you can't refute. I know and I said it can be resolved by itself depending on who they pick (and depending on what answer I will get from the host which I won't bring up as of yet) INSTEAD of deducting the circle of roles (of people). I didn't care until Shin had brought it up as if he already knew they were town and to make them look bad by reminding town there is a 50/50 chance of them being scum. It looked more scumwilled than townwilled to me, that's all. |
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RE said: how? How would you like me to word it then buttercup? Wisp-O said: I don't like this post, it give me a bad feeling.from what she's posted currently I can't really place her anywhere so just neutral. I take it back vote: Gwen Fite me |
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NewG said: I can follow that reasoning. It makes sense, but I don't think that's the case.RE said: So either we're scum for wanting it or we screwed up. Why are you so against the neighborizer coming out? If the neighborizer was scum, they wouldn't want that, would they? See what I did there? That logic can easily be reversed. In the end, it's up them. We'll find out sooner than later, it was a suggestion with probability you can't refute. I know and I said it can be resolved by itself depending on who they pick (and depending on what answer I will get from the host which I won't bring up as of yet) INSTEAD of deducting the circle of roles. I didn't care until Shin had brought it up as if he already knew they were town and to make them look bad by reminding town there is a 50/50 chance of them being scum. It looked more scumwilled than townwilled to me, that's all. vote: Wisp-o Let's see where this goes :9 |
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NewG said: He's just saying what he thinks why would he make it a big deal? It's not like he's really forcing people to claim.Tainted said: missed this post. I don't support Shin with his claiming stuffs. It's just I could see his post coming from a villager's perspective I doubt scum Shin will start the game asking some specific roles to claim. Specific. That's the key here. Because he makes it look like it is no big deal while in reality it is and now that I know that some roles are not randomized; claiming for me looks more fatal for town. |
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Wisp-O said: yurkin said: from what she's posted currently I can't really place her anywhere so just neutral.@wisp-o do u think gwen is scum here? XD Yea, yea I'm always neutral. I thought you know my scum game by now? |
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Wisp-O said: NewG said: so then why are u voting me xDBut WHY call out neighbourizer immediately? Is it necessary? You would only do that as informed scum. cause one train traveling looks boring |
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yurkin said: @wisp-o do u think gwen is scum here? XD What do YOU think? :) |
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logic340 said: You think RE is scum?RE said: how is neighborizer useless as town? Suzune used it masterfully in Alcatraz mafia. I think you're just scared of it because I got you with it in Easter Egg Mafia last year. I'll check her catch up post but this defense of shin is BAD.Wowa vote: NewG Your catch up feels fake, and while Shinichi has spent most of his time discussing roles, his strategy isn't wrong. I think neighborizer should claim. Their role is next to useless as town and dangerous as scum. Why else would she be scared of a town neighborizer. |
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Wisp-O said: RE said: how? How would you like me to word it then buttercup? I don't like this post, it give me a bad feeling. I take it back vote: Gwen Fite me Now you're voting to please someone else. Pfff! Mah boy you're the one that needs to fight. My vote is staying. |
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logic340 said: idk why people find shin's play bad like I understand if he did it on d2 or later but he talked about it when the game just started where barely no one even posted yet like what else is there to talk about?RE said: You Even voted him and said it wasn't rvsvote: Shinichi RE said: Not random, calling out the miller felt like busy work and unnecessary. But we'll see. Now you defend him? Idk which is worse his play or you protecting him now? |
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Tainted said: you misunderstand me. She is scared of scum neighbor not town neighbor. She feels town neighbor is useless. Idk what to make of her yet.logic340 said: You think RE is scum?how is neighborizer useless as town? Suzune used it masterfully in Alcatraz mafia. I think you're just scared of it because I got you with it in Easter Egg Mafia last year. I'll check her catch up post but this defense of shin is BAD. Why else would she be scared of a town neighborizer. |
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Tainted said: things that aren't in scum favor to discuss. Why help mafia right off the bat?logic340 said: idk why people find shin's play bad like I understand if he did it on d2 or later but he talked about it when the game just started where barely no one even posted yet like what else is there to talk about?You Even voted him and said it wasn't rvs Now you defend him? Idk which is worse his play or you protecting him now? |
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Tainted said: logic340 said: idk why people find shin's play bad like I understand if he did it on d2 or later but he talked about it when the game just started where barely no one even posted yet like what else is there to talk about?You Even voted him and said it wasn't rvs Now you defend him? Idk which is worse his play or you protecting him now? You said it yourself. Scum like to hide behind mechanical talk. And when's the better time if not D1? |
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roz1roz said: I was thinking about it and this seems more reasonable but also helps mafia identify town power roles. Still seems to help scum more than town imo. Can you enlighten me? Am I missing something?I still say that scum is worried of unknown and that massclaim can hurt them greatly, so they would deny this option. I don't say about role massclaim, but a group massclaim (as of in wich group are you). That alone should give a lot of info. |
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NewG said: and I can't lie, shin does do that a lot as scum, but I don't have that scum vibe from him yet, time will tell thoTainted said: idk why people find shin's play bad like I understand if he did it on d2 or later but he talked about it when the game just started where barely no one even posted yet like what else is there to talk about? You said it yourself. Scum like to hide behind mechanical talk. And when's the better time if not D1? |
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roz1roz said: I still say that scum is worried of unknown and that massclaim can hurt them greatly, so they would deny this option. I don't say about role massclaim, but a group massclaim (as of in wich group are you). That alone should give a lot of info. Thought of that myself roz: too many issues really. Scum knows what roles they have, so would thereby know which roles Town have as a result. Like Gwen said: if there is no Mafia Neighbouriser, then the Mafia would know who the Neighbouriser would be. Anybody who claims Curious Investigator would always end up dead N1. If someone claims Killer, they would die pretty quickly too. Basically: claiming is stupid in this game. Always gives scum too much information. |
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Wisp-O said: I completely missed the reply with the vote...RE said: how? How would you like me to word it then buttercup? I don't like this post, it give me a bad feeling. I take it back vote: Gwen Fite me Because neutral is a weird word to describe someone as active as Gwen. It's too little explanation and commentary. It feels like you avoided giving a read. Your vote doesn't look good either, feels like sheeping. NewG said: People say that so often I almost never talk about mechanics as scum lol.Tainted said: idk why people find shin's play bad like I understand if he did it on d2 or later but he talked about it when the game just started where barely no one even posted yet like what else is there to talk about? You said it yourself. Scum like to hide behind mechanical talk. And when's the better time if not D1? |
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ScarletCelestial said: Wisp-O feels rather lacking in thought. Let me amend that: Wisp looks lacking in thought unless he's told to something. |
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logic340 said: no lol just a random thoughtso your leaning scum here fur to this "tell"? |
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logic340 said: ok13 players in this game I'm willing to bet there are at least 3 scum. I dont think it would be balanced otherwise. Phraze said: because I like to bring awareness to this voting option for town. My reasoning mafia don't want a longer game it's harder on them. Will put it somewhere better later, for now this is fine.same old. why? |
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ScarletCelestial said: This makes sense. But it's trading off, we'd almost certainly catch scum with a mass claim, or at least have a good PoE, since The Jealous Mobster and Those Who Hide would be left without at a category.roz1roz said: I still say that scum is worried of unknown and that massclaim can hurt them greatly, so they would deny this option. I don't say about role massclaim, but a group massclaim (as of in wich group are you). That alone should give a lot of info. Thought of that myself roz: too many issues really. Scum knows what roles they have, so would thereby know which roles Town have as a result. Like Gwen said: if there is no Mafia Neighbouriser, then the Mafia would know who the Neighbouriser would be. Anybody who claims Curious Investigator would always end up dead N1. If someone claims Killer, they would die pretty quickly too. Basically: claiming is stupid in this game. Always gives scum too much information. |
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NewG said: You said it yourself. Scum like to hide behind mechanical talk. And when's the better time if not D1? RE said: People say that so often I almost never talk about mechanics as scum lol. Here's our first wine. I would like some white wine for a change. edit: fixing quotes |
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NewG said: if Shin plans on hiding he wouldn't have started the mechanical talk and just start the game normally in rvsTainted said: idk why people find shin's play bad like I understand if he did it on d2 or later but he talked about it when the game just started where barely no one even posted yet like what else is there to talk about? You said it yourself. Scum like to hide behind mechanical talk. And when's the better time if not D1? |
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RE said: I disagree.Wisp-O said: I don't like this post, it give me a bad feeling.from what she's posted currently I can't really place her anywhere so just neutral. |
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Tainted said: This is good. I want to townread it, but it's not enough yet...NewG said: if Shin plans on hiding he wouldn't have started the mechanical talk and just start the game normally in rvsYou said it yourself. Scum like to hide behind mechanical talk. And when's the better time if not D1? |
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logic340 said: idk does he really looks like he did it to help mafia?Tainted said: things that aren't in scum favor to discuss. Why help mafia right off the bat?idk why people find shin's play bad like I understand if he did it on d2 or later but he talked about it when the game just started where barely no one even posted yet like what else is there to talk about? |
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RE said: what does reverse psychology have to do with this? its not new.So either we're scum for wanting it or we screwed up. Why are you so against the neighborizer coming out? If the neighborizer was scum, they wouldn't want that, would they? See what I did there? That logic can easily be reversed. In the end, it's up them. We'll find out sooner than later, it was a suggestion with probability you can't refute. |
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Tainted said: NewG said: if Shin plans on hiding he wouldn't have started the mechanical talk and just start the game normally in rvsYou said it yourself. Scum like to hide behind mechanical talk. And when's the better time if not D1? Hiding as in hiding behind a town mask. Cause it would look more townie trying to start a discussion no? And I know Shin counts on first appearance. But *shrug* ...basically waiting for him to say more now. |
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