logic340 said: ScarletCelestial said: all I was saying is Mindmelds can lead to easy pocketing. Nothing to do with the work you put in. Really? Because I was the one who wrote those thoughts down. Tainted just went and said they had a mindmeld. I was the one who did the work, so I thought you were directing it to me... I think this is just a weird conversation based on misunderstandings. |
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RE said: that's because I begged him not to bus Abu and he did. Ending in abu's lynch d1 and a downward spiral got the mafia team. You Do remember we (mafia) lost that game right? Bussing=bad for mafia (most times). I will bus if forced to but I'm anti-bus. So no I wouldn't be bussing this esrly.logic340 said: I distinctly recall you bussing Crossbell for a bit in Easter Egg but this is fine for now. I forgot, did you ever give a read on Gwen?@RE logic is anti-bus as mafia if I'm mafia here whisper is town. I'm down with Wisper scum for now tho. White wine. |
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| I've been way more active than phraze tho? It'll work itself out I'm sure. How do yoo feel about what's read list? Feels unoriginal to me like he's just recycling the sentiment of others in his read list. |
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| What are people's thoughts on roz's mass claim idea? Logic pointed this out already, but roz suggested Curious Investigators to claim Citizen to avoid putting target on their back, which would do more harm than good since there's a set number of 4 citizens. Which is also a pretty obvious conclusion, so I find it pretty suspicious roz didn't think that through. |
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ScarletCelestial said: agreed.logic340 said: all I was saying is Mindmelds can lead to easy pocketing. Nothing to do with the work you put in. I think this is just a weird conversation based on misunderstandings. Moving on to more pertinent subjects. I find phraze hard to read have you had any luck reading her in previous games? |
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logic340 said: What's the difference between white wine and just regular wine? Also, you didn't answer my question.RE said: that's because I begged him not to bus Abu and he did. Ending in abu's lynch d1 and a downward spiral got the mafia team. You Do remember we (mafia) lost that game right? Bussing=bad for mafia (most times). I will bus if forced to but I'm anti-bus. So no I wouldn't be bussing this esrly.I distinctly recall you bussing Crossbell for a bit in Easter Egg but this is fine for now. I forgot, did you ever give a read on Gwen? White wine. logic340 said: Where did anyone else read me as town? Scarlet as town?I've been way more active than phraze tho? It'll work itself out I'm sure. How do yoo feel about what's read list? Feels unoriginal to me like he's just recycling the sentiment of others in his read list. His scum reads are a bit recycled, yes, but I think scum would make more of an effort to defend their reads. It seems more like a first impressions reads list. |
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ScarletCelestial said: 7 actually. Majority in 13 players is 7.Also, if anyone forgot MAJORITY IS ON. If anybody reaches 8 votes today, the Day ends early. |
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logic340 said: that's why I'm asking for yours to sort you out >.<Tainted said: no read on me :cries:Shin town Scar probably town Re slight town Wisp could be scum Gwen could also be scum kinda agree with Phraze there. Don't really have any strong reads but that's where I'm at |
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RE said: roz thinking doesn't surprise me, not looking at how it negatively affects town does. I'd put him to the scummies side of neutral but haven't seen enough from him yet.What are people's thoughts on roz's mass claim idea? Logic pointed this out already, but roz suggested Curious Investigators to claim Citizen to avoid putting target on their back, which would do more harm than good since there's a set number of 4 citizens. Which is also a pretty obvious conclusion, so I find it pretty suspicious roz didn't think that through. |
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| Vote Count 1.5 Wisp-O (3): NewG, logic340, RE Shinichi (2): Century, Shinichi NewG (2): Wisp-O, Phraze Karote (1): yurkin Taker (1): Tainted yurkin (1): Karote Not Voting: Scarlet, taker, roz1roz http://itsalmo.st/#lavieennight1 |
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| Roz for some reason likes fakeclaiming as town, but I agree with Osie in that it's just bad to make unnecessary lies. I think the larger groups are harder to sort then PoE, then if someone claimed something from the smaller groups. The reason I think claiming vanilla is good because even if it shortens the PoE for mafia to find prs, it also makes it easier to find the mafia using the exact same method. The random role is probably in place to balance alignments based on the psuedo random choices, so the random role could roll either way, just my thoughts. I am also not ok with a no lynch, b/c I'm interested in how flips work, so the sooner the better, but that in no way suggests I'm looking for an information lynch on day 1. We do need to push a little harder tho, because this is a majority, which means people should be pushing their scum leans harder, and with that, voting more often. |
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Wisp-O said: could you highlight some of these "questionable posts"? Maybe that will help move me one way or the other?Logic - usual logic, with his vote to no lynch, still think its stupid, and he has some questionable posts... nothing major to place him yet |
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logic340 said: tbh I think that is NAI for him, his thought process is more a long the lines of tricking scum and staying alive as town.RE said: roz thinking doesn't surprise me, not looking at how it negatively affects town does. I'd put him to the scummies side of neutral but haven't seen enough from him yet.What are people's thoughts on roz's mass claim idea? Logic pointed this out already, but roz suggested Curious Investigators to claim Citizen to avoid putting target on their back, which would do more harm than good since there's a set number of 4 citizens. Which is also a pretty obvious conclusion, so I find it pretty suspicious roz didn't think that through. |
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| Which I don't agree with, that is a selfish way to play, but none the less is not scummy on it's own |
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| @RE I did answer your question when tainted asked for my read list. |
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logic340 said: I've been way more active than phraze tho? It'll work itself out I'm sure. How do yoo feel about what's read list? Feels unoriginal to me like he's just recycling the sentiment of others in his read list. The issue with them not giving a Phraze read is that they mention Phraze in a different read, so I'm wondering why they haven't been included as their own person. The recycling sentiment part can be easily thought, especially since they haven't actually related thought to it, just gave basic structure. I agree on that part. |
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| @logic340 To be short and sweet, your posts to be come off as more, your train of thought is wrong, or mine is right. I don't believe that to be the correct way to look at things. I mean posts can be wrong, but they are more a long the line of good or bad, rather then wrong or right. Maybe it's just me, I have a sorta of confrontational bias when it comes to how you attack posts and how you respond to people. |
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| And ur train of thought on how things should be this game, is too much wine, then usual from you |
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PentaFlare said: ScarletCelestial said: 7 actually. Majority in 13 players is 7.Also, if anyone forgot MAJORITY IS ON. If anybody reaches 8 votes today, the Day ends early. I thought there were 15 players so my reasoning was right. |
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| #220? It doesn't give me your thoughts on Gwen. Wisp's recent posts are making me question my read on him... ScarletCelestial said: 8 votes on someone isn't something we have to worry about, like ever lol.PentaFlare said: 7 actually. Majority in 13 players is 7. I thought there were 15 players so my reasoning was right. |
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| @RE how sure are u that there is scum between me and Logic? I mean I'm most def town , does that mean that logic is still scum, or town to you? |
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| I was waiting for someone to vote him since he just been left in the dust. Plus since he's new to mafia in general I need a way to read into his alignment |
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Tainted said: because of that post by me?Shinichi-Kun said: meh I feel like shin is townI am more worred about the deceitful crook now because if he gets investigated he can just claim that he was given the innocent role :/, what a trouble some role. |
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| @RE there are no thoughts currently as I haven't reread yet? So yes it was answered on my response to tainted who asked for my reads. You asking for a specific read didn't change that... |
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Wisp-O said: holding on to.old shit? It's been so long since I played a forum mafia game. Since Oct when anyone last saw my town game even.@logic340 To be short and sweet, your posts to be come off as more, your train of thought is wrong, or mine is right. I don't believe that to be the correct way to look at things. I mean posts can be wrong, but they are more a long the line of good or bad, rather then wrong or right. Maybe it's just me, I have a sorta of confrontational bias when it comes to how you attack posts and how you respond to people. edit: so what are you comparing to? |
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Tainted said: if u read the setup only 1 mafia is confirmed by default to exist, I had a conversation with Penta before the game started but for balance purposes he explains the max was around 4 or 5 but he couldn't tell me more.Shinichi-Kun said: only 1 scum doesn't make any sense minimum should always be 2its is possible for both jail keepers to exist? If so why is town 1 faster than the mafia 1? Is there a logical decision behind that? Also minimum mafia i would assume is 1 and maximum is prob 4 or 5 |
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Tainted said: perfect way for scum to out themselves don't u think thrn , if ur in agreement that the scum can easily jump into the conversation why don't we let them then?logic340 said: agree with logic here.I'd prefer a possible dichotomy. To each his own... Let's just stop talking about claiming right now. It's an easy talk for scum to just jump in. |
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Wisp-O said: knocking the rust off, don't expect too much from me.And ur train of thought on how things should be this game, is too much wine, then usual from you |
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Shinichi-Kun said: if it was that easy to catch them we would but you know from experience frivolous talk from town helps mafia. You're not a newb i won't accept this from youTainted said: perfect way for scum to out themselves don't u think thrn , if ur in agreement that the scum can easily jump into the conversation why don't we let them then?agree with logic here. Let's just stop talking about claiming right now. It's an easy talk for scum to just jump in. |
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Tainted said: you shared a thought not really the process tho?so you guys know my thought process? |
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Shinichi-Kun said: well the thing is you don't have a way to know which is which mechanics is just that easy to talk.Tainted said: perfect way for scum to out themselves don't u think thrn , if ur in agreement that the scum can easily jump into the conversation why don't we let them then?agree with logic here. Let's just stop talking about claiming right now. It's an easy talk for scum to just jump in. |
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NewG said: Shinichi-Kun said: Pathetic Fallacy: Town Named Vanilla I also think if this role exists someone should claim it cause it harms no one for thiis role to be claimed. Bitch, it harms town because scum would know there is no back up investigator edit: if there's one of each alignment in that group atleast. Not worth the risk. there does not have to be 1 of each alignment in a group at least that kinda removes the RNG facror. Why are u so relsint on roles helping u find schm? Also whats wrong with filling the thread with confirmed mechanics if I hadn't mentioned the mille I would not have realized the role work differently than usual. He should claim gwen and me role fishing is not me being evil I am trying to remove the role that mafia can hide behind as claims |
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logic340 said: means nothing to meWisp-O said: holding on to.old shit? It's been so long since I played a forum mafia game. Since Oct when anyone last saw my town game even.@logic340 To be short and sweet, your posts to be come off as more, your train of thought is wrong, or mine is right. I don't believe that to be the correct way to look at things. I mean posts can be wrong, but they are more a long the line of good or bad, rather then wrong or right. Maybe it's just me, I have a sorta of confrontational bias when it comes to how you attack posts and how you respond to people. edit: so what are you comparing to? |
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NewG said: I used knowledge of how MS runs games actually. No one wants to play a game that unbalanced (especially mafia).logic340 said: 13 players in this game I'm willing to bet there are at least 3 scum. I dont think it would be balanced otherwise. Looool, so much for people not reading the set-up. Does that make them town or scum? xD Logic read the above. edit: unless you went one step ahead and did the maths. |
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Wisp-O said: Considering I can't know your alignment, that doesn't do anything for me. But both of you are suspicious to me (logic less so, but I don't like him not giving out reads especially on someone who's posted as much as Gwen), and I think one of you have to be scum (also based on my town reads).@RE how sure are u that there is scum between me and Logic? I mean I'm most def town , does that mean that logic is still scum, or town to you? logic340 said: I would not consider that an answer, but I'll wait.@RE there are no thoughts currently as I haven't reread yet? So yes it was answered on my response to tainted who asked for my reads. You asking for a specific read didn't change that... |
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logic340 said: lame excuse to brush off ur inconsistencies...Wisp-O said: knocking the rust off, don't expect too much from me.And ur train of thought on how things should be this game, is too much wine, then usual from you |
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NewG said: I agree with yurkin here. Shinichi is just saying obvious stuff in order to just say stuff. #21 why would a neighbourizer even claim with that high chance in others eyes? Like why mention it? Why put them out like this, if you're not scum? @Shinichi-kun #24 playing the worried in public #22 it harms town (like I already said) Shin is on my suspect list but I want answers first. Toodlez~ edit: added links, added a question why should a role that has a 50\50 chance to be scum not out themselves unless they're scum. #101-why are u reading into the thread and interactions assuming I am scum that's basis for a biased mind set. NewG said: if the wild car is town it be better if we know thst , why should it be hidden from us?NewG said: Not sure if I got the hang of the wild card. Does that mean there are two roles of the same out there? I think I get it now and it just messes everything more up xD Still don't think people should claim voluntarily. |
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Tainted said: doesn't matte how u see it the possibility still exisrs .NewG said: it wouldn't be informed minority vs uninformed majority anymore if there's only 1 scumYup and I dont know your thought process. By the way 1 scum could be possible, because there is only one certain scum out there in the "Jealous Mobster" lot. Could be possible that the rest drew town. But how high are the chances? I ain't good at maths. Where is an Osie when you need him? NewG said: Wisp-O said: I'm doing it because some people don't read the op as well as they should... Well then that's their own damn fault and would be even better for town if scum slips due to that.. like I said you're only trying to look useful. ur only trying to keep info hidden that could potentially cause scum to slip. town till its confirmed otherwise LMFAO logic340 said: 13 players in this game I'm willing to bet there are at least 3 scum. I dont think it would be balanced otherwise. Phraze said: because I like to bring awareness to this voting option for town. My reasoning mafia don't want a longer game it's harder on them. Will put it somewhere better later, for now this is fine.same old. why? there is no betting holy shit lmfao, 1 scum can exist unless Penta is living about how his game works, we should not be reading into how many scum may or may not exist we shoold just be trying to catch those who re scummy |
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roz1roz said: Okay guys, who is voting for and who is against a day 1 massclaim? We can try it once and see how will it work to never bring the massclaim idea again if it fails. I am always against it |
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NewG said: i feel like this is a townie post from gwen. If she's scum here then wisp is making it easy for scum to look town. Wisp-O said: on what though? Lol pretty broad question. Gotta work on some stuff, be back later On everything? You aren't a bystander dude. You haven't really tackled any issue here so far. There is lots to catch on. Thoughts on a massclaim coming from roz, thoughts on logic being against it, thoughts on Tainteds behaviour, thoughts on mine, thoughts on the votes etc? |
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NewG said: roz1roz said: Roles were handpicked from the avilable ones. The game is promised to be balanced. Yeah, I asked about it. Oh handpicked? So not randomized? hand picked doesn't make sense, ruins the entirety of this setup PentaFlare said: Roles were not randomized from the list. I have picked the roles to balance this game. that's super lame WTF lol, and her I thought this setup was cool |
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Tainted said: NewG said: missed this post.Also if Shin is town/scum it could be that either Wisp or Tainted are scum based on how they support his stupidity and how wisp is trying to look useful lol (from my first observation atleast) Oh man I'm spamming already...I'll wait for others now xD I don't support Shin with his claiming stuffs. It's just I could see his post coming from a villager's perspective I doubt scum Shin will start the game asking some specific roles to claim. I could easily be doing that what ya mean? Why are u so sure of my alignmnt? |
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| @RE I mean u said my last posts made u question stuff? So am i more scum or more town now? And linking me and if this early may just lead to two mislynches in the worst possible case, how did we even get linked? And why am I even scummy... |
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RE said: Wowa vote: NewG Your catch up feels fake, and while Shinichi has spent most of his time discussing roles, his strategy isn't wrong. I think neighborizer should claim. Their role is next to useless as town and dangerous as scum. at least someone agrees thank you majority vote is in place if ur really town u would not forget that. logic340 said: RE said: how is neighborizer useless as town? Suzune used it masterfully in Alcatraz mafia. I think you're just scared of it because I got you with it in Easter Egg Mafia last year. I'll check her catch up post but this defense of shin is BAD.Wowa vote: NewG Your catch up feels fake, and while Shinichi has spent most of his time discussing roles, his strategy isn't wrong. I think neighborizer should claim. Their role is next to useless as town and dangerous as scum. that role has the highest chance to roll scum then longer that person waits to claim the same res I would have given to the mille will be given to said playrr. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: I don't believe in running unfair gamesthat's super lame WTF lol, and her I thought this setup was cool |
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RE said: logic340 said: Definitely, I've also seen neighborizer as scum who wasn't used against me, I warned town against it, and they still fell for it.how is neighborizer useless as town? Suzune used it masterfully in Alcatraz mafia. I think you're just scared of it because I got you with it in Easter Egg Mafia last year. I'll check her catch up post but this defense of shin is BAD. It's not bad. This game is nearly open set-up, either sooner or later, we'll be relying on mass claim to catch scum. Shinichi is right, if that person claims, there's a 50% chance they're scum. Give me a brief summary of how she used it masterfully, and I'll reconsider. What do you think of Gwen? I found her replies that filled up page 2 filler. I dont care how masterfully it can be used in this setup we are specfically told it can be 50/50 on alignment unlike other setups were we can only go on role anyalysis to assumr that role is scum aligned based on the game. Ive seen 2 scum aligned neighborizer before they're quite effective but the problem here is that they have a huge chance of being scum aligned. Plus even if the role itself is outted it loses literally no power, cause the private chats still happen but the sooner we know its town aligned the better. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: RE said: Definitely, I've also seen neighborizer as scum who wasn't used against me, I warned town against it, and they still fell for it. It's not bad. This game is nearly open set-up, either sooner or later, we'll be relying on mass claim to catch scum. Shinichi is right, if that person claims, there's a 50% chance they're scum. Give me a brief summary of how she used it masterfully, and I'll reconsider. What do you think of Gwen? I found her replies that filled up page 2 filler. I dont care how masterfully it can be used in this setup we are specfically told it can be 50/50 on alignment unlike other setups were we can only go on role anyalysis to assumr that role is scum aligned based on the game. Ive seen 2 scum aligned neighborizer before they're quite effective but the problem here is that they have a huge chance of being scum aligned. Plus even if the role itself is outted it loses literally no power, cause the private chats still happen but the sooner we know its town aligned the better. ...unless due to said claim they end up shot in the head. Shin-chan, your plan always ends up with a PR dead. You're also saying you're against a massclaim, but willing to make some people claim, which would mean it would still be easier to narrow down the pool of PRs. |
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