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Dec 30, 2023 8:15 PM
#51
not yet but now we await for the conquer >:) |
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Jan 10, 2024 11:08 AM
#52
Nah, anything that could've been a "golden age" ended in 2012. We're currently in the commercial Era. Less risk and more appealing to established franchises and trends. Also, many greats of the industry died or retired; Miyazaki is holding the line vy himself, but he's probably actually done after The Boy andmd the Heron. |
Jan 10, 2024 12:07 PM
#53
One problem in the anime community is that they can’t seem to set exact years of this golden age during 80s and 90s, I personally don’t see mid 80s to early 90s as the golden age since most of 90s best shows only appeared towards the end of 90s , Akira and few ghibli movies who came out in that period just doesn’t convince me. If we really felt that anime had a modern golden age it would probably be 2013 - 2023 , Attack on titan started it and ended it while in that period some of the most critically acclaimed anime series also happened or continue to till this day. This also reminds me of statement that Sopranos started golden age of television back in 1999, I can only image how sitcom enjoying boomers felt hearing this back then only to be proven very wrong in next 15 years. |
Jan 10, 2024 12:27 PM
#54
Yes we are in the golden age right now, with all the moeblob shows and moeblob moments even in action shows. |
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Jan 11, 2024 8:46 AM
#55
the13thStruggle said: @Ryuseishun "Creativity doesn't count as original anime copying off one another for years and years upon end" Originality is by definition creativity, you midwit. This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've read all month and no one above substandard IQ looks at you and thinks you're highbrow lol. If you don't even have a basic understanding of what creativity is then I don't think you should have a right to comment on art or really anything. By your logic, the Industrial Revolution was no revolution and saw no innovations because all technological advancements were built off of previous ones. Let me tell you what creativity in the context of this thread actually means: It's not just building from scratch, but (almost always) how existing elements are synthesized, transformed and presented in new and engaging ways. You need creativity in order to skillfully recombine and reinterpret existing ideas and craft new ones. This is why so many consider the 90s and/or the 00s as the 'golden age' of anime and why so many iconic and revolutionary works postdate 1986. I'm going to have so much fun breaking down your media-illiterate takes from now on lol. Get ready. Great post. That guy knows nothing about anime let alone other media and should learn to observe without speaking every time a random brainfart occurs inside his head. His factually incorrect take about originality just reinforces the unspoken sentiment from everyone that he massively pads his own lists. |
Jan 11, 2024 2:14 PM
#56
Reply to -Kino-
the13thStruggle said:
@Ryuseishun "Creativity doesn't count as original anime copying off one another for years and years upon end" Originality is by definition creativity, you midwit. This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've read all month and no one above substandard IQ looks at you and thinks you're highbrow lol. If you don't even have a basic understanding of what creativity is then I don't think you should have a right to comment on art or really anything. By your logic, the Industrial Revolution was no revolution and saw no innovations because all technological advancements were built off of previous ones.
Let me tell you what creativity in the context of this thread actually means: It's not just building from scratch, but (almost always) how existing elements are synthesized, transformed and presented in new and engaging ways. You need creativity in order to skillfully recombine and reinterpret existing ideas and craft new ones. This is why so many consider the 90s and/or the 00s as the 'golden age' of anime and why so many iconic and revolutionary works postdate 1986.
I'm going to have so much fun breaking down your media-illiterate takes from now on lol. Get ready.
@Ryuseishun "Creativity doesn't count as original anime copying off one another for years and years upon end" Originality is by definition creativity, you midwit. This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've read all month and no one above substandard IQ looks at you and thinks you're highbrow lol. If you don't even have a basic understanding of what creativity is then I don't think you should have a right to comment on art or really anything. By your logic, the Industrial Revolution was no revolution and saw no innovations because all technological advancements were built off of previous ones.
Let me tell you what creativity in the context of this thread actually means: It's not just building from scratch, but (almost always) how existing elements are synthesized, transformed and presented in new and engaging ways. You need creativity in order to skillfully recombine and reinterpret existing ideas and craft new ones. This is why so many consider the 90s and/or the 00s as the 'golden age' of anime and why so many iconic and revolutionary works postdate 1986.
I'm going to have so much fun breaking down your media-illiterate takes from now on lol. Get ready.
Great post. That guy knows nothing about anime let alone other media and should learn to observe without speaking every time a random brainfart occurs inside his head. His factually incorrect take about originality just reinforces the unspoken sentiment from everyone that he massively pads his own lists.
@KinoTabi- Thanks. I forgot he existed before he began vying for my attention through that trashy remark towards a month-old post. Looks like he'll never recover from those dozen public losses he brought upon himself by everyone last year. Funny but sad. |
Jan 11, 2024 2:31 PM
#57
Reply to Figva
One problem in the anime community is that they can’t seem to set exact years of this golden age during 80s and 90s, I personally don’t see mid 80s to early 90s as the golden age since most of 90s best shows only appeared towards the end of 90s , Akira and few ghibli movies who came out in that period just doesn’t convince me. If we really felt that anime had a modern golden age it would probably be 2013 - 2023 , Attack on titan started it and ended it while in that period some of the most critically acclaimed anime series also happened or continue to till this day.
This also reminds me of statement that Sopranos started golden age of television back in 1999, I can only image how sitcom enjoying boomers felt hearing this back then only to be proven very wrong in next 15 years.
This also reminds me of statement that Sopranos started golden age of television back in 1999, I can only image how sitcom enjoying boomers felt hearing this back then only to be proven very wrong in next 15 years.
@Figva IMHO the 70s and early 80s were the true Golden Age of anime in Japan, since that's when all the foundational blocks were fully laid for the style of storytelling anime would come to nourish. The 90s are more of a Silver Age - the age of "standing on the shoulders of giants" by drawing inspiration from older works to create something new. For example, Evangelion would've never been able to be what it is without having Gundam and Ideon, two major Golden Age mecha shows, as an influence. Mahou shoujo shows like Sailor Moon wouldn't exist without Cutey Honey, something like Utena wouldn't have come to be without Versailles no Bara being a major stylistical influence, you probably get the point. Anime fans usually don't get this because a lot of these older shows weren't exactly available until quite recently so there's this misconception that prior to the nineties anime used to be just childish cartoon shlock when that's very much not the case. We're long past the Gold, Silver and even the Bronze age of anime. Post 2014 it's been a Dark Age, full stop, and the situation's not likely going to improve the way it's going right now. |
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Jan 11, 2024 3:00 PM
#58
We are not even in the bronze era of anime anymore. |
Jan 11, 2024 3:06 PM
#59
Anime is dead and we killed it. HALLELLUJAH!!! |
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Jan 11, 2024 3:30 PM
#60
No. I think the golden era is around 2007-2012 At that time, lots of both dumb anime idea and concept appears regularly. Also anime artstyle direction transition between early 2000s and modern style like we all know today happens at that time. And finally why i prefer that year than late 1990s even though they have both in above category i mentioned is solely because of number of anime aired there each season also skyrocketed a lot in 2007-2012 era. |
Jan 11, 2024 5:32 PM
#61
Of creative ideas no. Well unless you like certain trends and by that I mean ANY ERA. Nostalgia aside which I have none for anime, but do games well even then I research games and go yep I know the experimental eras and how trends new and jumping on or whatever production and this and that. For music I mean I look at Indies not mainstream so would they be innovative/creative I think so with the sound design I seek. I mean spins no matter how simple or dumb can be 'creative' but it depends. |
Apr 2, 4:42 AM
#62
Reply to MadanielFL
We've had 5 different anime reach the top 1 on MAL in just the past 3 years....
@MadanielFL Well that is mostly due to recency bias and overrating |
Apr 2, 4:44 AM
#63
No, anime is getting worse and worse. Not that it was any good (to begin with). |
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Apr 2, 1:22 PM
#64
The golden Era came and left way bore most user of MAL today was even born. Im sorry to say this Gen Z and Alpha you missed the golden age. |
Apr 2, 1:32 PM
#65
Reply to Hans_0819
I just became popular with the mainstream attracting a lot of tourists, if Japanese people listen to westerners opinions it will just become decadent as current mainstream western media.
@Hans_0819 Current Western media is very good now. |
Apr 2, 1:35 PM
#66
I think Golden Age is relative. Different people put it at different points. I'm liking some of the stuff being released, and I appreciate the few projects taking risks. Though I also think that aside from a few things, this era is rather safe. |
Apr 3, 11:51 AM
#67
Not even close. Quantity <> Quality Anime started peaking in the late 90s, had peaked in the early '00s and has been in decline ever since. Slowly at first, but the rate has gone logarithmic this decade. |
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Apr 3, 12:05 PM
#68
The Early 00s were literally the dogshit era of anime, 2006 boom brought it out of the crisis |
Apr 3, 4:20 PM
#69
Anime was never good. Anime tend to be lousy stuff. Anime is really only good for the music videos on Youtube tbh. |
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Apr 3, 4:24 PM
#70
The golden decade lasted from 2006-2015. We had a recent honeymoon period of good anime from 2023-2024, but anime has declined again in quality. |
Apr 4, 6:12 AM
#71
The golden era is long gone. It went away when the last VHS were replaced by the first godawful 720p DVDs |
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Apr 4, 7:17 AM
#72
No, anime shows are getting worse and worse. Then again, anime shows always sucked. Tbh anime is only good for the animations. Nobody watches anime for the plots anyways. |
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Apr 4, 10:43 PM
#73
2004 to 2014 was the Golden era of Anime. Starting from Bleach and covering Hits like Death Note, FMA Brotherhood, Sword art Online, Hunter x Hunter, Fate Zero, Attack on Titan, Tokyo Ghoul and Many more Quality production.. Now we get 2nd rate copies of the concepts introduced by those Anime.. it's Sad really |
Apr 4, 11:37 PM
#74
Reply to Sandymikoto
2004 to 2014 was the Golden era of Anime. Starting from Bleach and covering Hits like Death Note, FMA Brotherhood, Sword art Online, Hunter x Hunter, Fate Zero, Attack on Titan, Tokyo Ghoul and Many more Quality production.. Now we get 2nd rate copies of the concepts introduced by those Anime.. it's Sad really
@Sandymikoto in 10 years people who started watching Anime now are going to say the same but with 2014-2024. |
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Apr 5, 1:33 AM
#75
Reply to ToumaTachibana
@Sandymikoto in 10 years people who started watching Anime now are going to say the same but with 2014-2024.
@Nurguburu Yeah. It's all relative, the golden age. Some out the golden age as the 70s and 80s. Some like the anime from the 90s. Some say the early 2000s. And so on. It's all relative. This era has some very great series being released. Though it's also relatively safe. Series that appeal to everyone, safe. |
Apr 12, 3:23 PM
#77
The golden decade was the 2010s. Which is already over. Of course. |
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Apr 12, 5:47 PM
#78
Apr 14, 6:02 AM
#79
2010s were the golden era for me personally, 2020s are pretty disappointing so far overall. |
Apr 14, 6:30 AM
#80
I would argue that the 80’s-90’s wasn’t the golden age but the platinum age of anime. All other eras can fight over second place. It was a time during the Japanese bubble economy where there was money thrown at a whole lotta projects. Some were more successful than others. Of course my opinion is highly biased since those were the shows I really love, even to this day. Newer shows seem overly tame to me, perhaps I’ve been desensitized. I honestly think it comes down to personal preference to be honest. |
Apr 14, 6:56 AM
#81
Apr 14, 7:28 AM
#82
Only artistic quality matters for a golden era for any artistic medium . if we go Popularity even mid ecchi gets popular that people just forget about , if we go number of show's then there are like a 1000 isekai's. I haven't watched that much anime to really comment on this but judging by just the "Top Anime" list on this website it seems to be like 2009 - 2018. |
Apr 14, 7:41 AM
#83
Apr 14, 7:18 PM
#84
Reply to MadanielFL
We've had 5 different anime reach the top 1 on MAL in just the past 3 years....
@MadanielFL Most of the stuff I consider Golden Age existed BEFORE MAL, so not a good yardstick. LOL |
Apr 14, 7:21 PM
#85
Reply to DesuMaiden
The golden decade was the 2010s. Which is already over. Of course.
@DesuMaiden Baloney. 1990s to Early 2000s was the Golden Age of Anime'. True Fans KNOW this. BTW, I DO watch for the plot. LOL |
Apr 14, 7:56 PM
#86
That's the 90s, ain't no other anime era comes close to it. |
Apr 14, 9:57 PM
#87
Reply to deg
@Serafos why though? when aja reports record breaking profit every year now for the past few years in the anime industry
@deg It's on account of quality, creativity and innovation. There have been several previous golden ages, in between having lots of cheap imitations of the great works. The 2000s was a great era. The 1990s was a great era. 2006, and 2011 were great years. The golden age is not defined by "profits", they are the ones that lead to an era that generates profits. Those profits being others who wish to cash in, but lack the passion and talent to maintain the quality. They then loose the crowd that generate profit who get tired of the derivative works, and the business look for ways to monetize further what is available. |
Apr 15, 2:35 AM
#88
yes, it is now. people bringing up the 90s and 00s, like dude that era was relatively shitty. it boomed in america in the 90s lol |
Apr 15, 3:16 AM
#89
I think 2010s was the golden decade. Mist of the high rated / respected / liked animes arefrom 2010s |
Apr 15, 6:01 AM
#90
Nah, the Golden Decade for anime was the 2010s. The 2020s is mostly just garbage for anime shows. |
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Apr 16, 8:41 AM
#91
Reply to deg
@Serafos why though? when aja reports record breaking profit every year now for the past few years in the anime industry
@deg cows eat grass but it doesnt mean they live in golden era i dont understand why gachacucks use that argument to claim "their herder aka gachatrash they play" is superior than others. what does it matter roman empire became weakened and stagnated once it became big it entered the Age of Iron and rust, as they say. |
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Apr 21, 8:18 AM
#92
Like I mentioned several days ago, the golden decade of anime was the 2010s. Anime has been rapidly declining in the 2020s. I don't even bother watching the shows from the 2020s; they mostly suck. |
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Apr 23, 3:04 AM
#93
The golden decade was the 2010s. The shows of the 2020s tend to all suck. |
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Apr 25, 5:50 AM
#94
I don't think Golden Era is the word to use for this current era since its long passed, Mainstream Era rolls of off the tongue better since both anime and manga are way more easily accessible now. |
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Apr 25, 7:25 AM
#95
Nah, this is just a normal era. There's nothing golden or silver about it. |
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Apr 25, 8:23 AM
#96
The 2010s was the golden decade of anime. The animes in the 2020s typically suck. |
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Apr 30, 5:53 AM
#97
To me the two golden eras where the 1980s and the 2000s. In the 1980s, anime emancipated itself from childrens TV courtesy of the invention of VHS and laserdisk, creatinga boom of more mature content. It's no coincidence that this includes the hentai and gore genres, but also has e.g. LotGH as a mature epic. The 2000s harvested the fallout of increased risk taking for new ideas, art direction and story types enabled by the success of highly innovative shows like Evangelion and Utena in the late 1990s. Another innovation from that decade is the invention of the moe show, which shapes anime until this day. Thus: No, we are not in a golden age. We are in "business as usual" mode. |
May 8, 7:26 AM
#98
i think yes - alot of good stuff almost every season since like 2022 |
May 8, 7:56 AM
#99
Didn't the term "golden" and "silver" age originate not from the quality of Hollywood movies, but from the fact that movies used to be in black and white and had first a golden tint and later a silver tint? Once color became widespread it was just called "modern". Anime changed styles about once per decade and then settled for what we currently have in the late 2000s. What we currently have is most definitely "modern". |
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