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Ban underaged girl pictures that is involved in any kind of nudity/sexualization
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Yesterday, 9:04 AM
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I saw some peoples having weird creepy pictures of little girls who are involved in nudity and similar kind of stuff why is that stuff allowed and not banned? Isn't this why anime have bad reputation?
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Yesterday, 9:07 AM
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Mal already has a non nsfw pfp rule. That applies to fully grown anime women or lolis.
Yesterday, 9:08 AM
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sexualize fictional characters are part of anime culture heck japan culture for a long time now though

inb4 "its fiction and not real children"
Yesterday, 9:11 AM
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sexualize fictional characters are part of anime culture heck japan culture for a long time now though

inb4 "its fiction and not real children"
@deg isn't japan known to have problems with pedophilia and lolicon theme tho
Yesterday, 9:11 AM
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Reply to rohan121
Mal already has a non nsfw pfp rule. That applies to fully grown anime women or lolis.
@rohan121 but stuff like showing skirts,underwear,bikini and that type of stuff is allowed while it's on minor characters?
Yesterday, 9:12 AM
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@deg isn't japan known to have problems with pedophilia and lolicon theme tho
@Wolfyrinn yes according to western standards heck the west pressured the united nations to make japan ban lolicons and shotacon but japan does not care and it reflects on their crime rate like low pedo crimes
Yesterday, 9:13 AM
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"Ban underaged girl pictures that is involved in any kind of nudity/sexualization"

...it's ... already banned ... always has been I think. If you consider any loli character image as "sexualization of underage girls" then I don't care much for your argument.
Yesterday, 9:17 AM
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Reply to Captain-577
"Ban underaged girl pictures that is involved in any kind of nudity/sexualization"

...it's ... already banned ... always has been I think. If you consider any loli character image as "sexualization of underage girls" then I don't care much for your argument.
@Captain-577 having little girl characters is not sexualization by itself it becomes that type of thing when they shown minors in underwear and sexual topics
Yesterday, 9:17 AM
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isn't that already against the rules though?
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Yesterday, 9:18 AM

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Reply to deg
@Wolfyrinn yes according to western standards heck the west pressured the united nations to make japan ban lolicons and shotacon but japan does not care and it reflects on their crime rate like low pedo crimes
@deg japanese need some regulations because they can't do that themselves
Yesterday, 9:19 AM

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Reply to DreamingBeats
isn't that already against the rules though?
@DreamingBeats you can by pass it with having minor character in underwear,bikini,skirts showing underwear and that type of stuff do you think it should be allowed?
Yesterday, 9:21 AM

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Reply to Wolfyrinn
@DreamingBeats you can by pass it with having minor character in underwear,bikini,skirts showing underwear and that type of stuff do you think it should be allowed?
@Wolfyrinn i don't think i've seen those kinds of profile pics. my guess is that these are also banned.
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Yesterday, 9:21 AM
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Reply to Wolfyrinn
@Captain-577 having little girl characters is not sexualization by itself it becomes that type of thing when they shown minors in underwear and sexual topics
@Wolfyrinn
If you actually came across some inappropriate pfp you can try reporting those as there are already rules about it.

And I am just curious, what did you actually see that you felt the need to make this thread?
Yesterday, 9:22 AM
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@deg japanese need some regulations because they can't do that themselves
@Wolfyrinn sure thats your free belief but japan would hate that for sure its against their sovereignty or independence

its just another culture wars
Yesterday, 9:27 AM

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Oh my gah! That's disgusting! Where can I find those exact profiles to avoid them???
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Yesterday, 9:28 AM

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you are implying that anime having a bad reputation is a bad thing
Yesterday, 9:37 AM

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Reply to Wolfyrinn
@rohan121 but stuff like showing skirts,underwear,bikini and that type of stuff is allowed while it's on minor characters?
@Wolfyrinn
???? Underage girls wear bikinis in real life too.
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Yesterday, 9:41 AM

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Why don’t you just ignore them and do your thing? They’re not really harming anyone. I know some of it might be inappropriate, but if it actually crosses the line, just report it, the mods will decide if it’s ban-worthy or not.

I don’t get why some people have this constant urge to act like the good guy. Just let everyone enjoy what they like, besides those characters are fictional, they’re not even real.



Yesterday, 9:47 AM

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I disagree, I think pfps and signatures with fully naked anime lolis should be allowed.
Yesterday, 9:49 AM
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Reply to Wolfyrinn
@deg japanese need some regulations because they can't do that themselves
@Wolfyrinn then I ask Japanese to regulate what wrong in your country since you aren't doing it yourself. Its basically what you are saying but only for them while not even looking at your country. People like you are a joke because you don't even notice your own hypocrisy.
Yesterday, 9:55 AM
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Funny how you make this take then your pfp is from a manga made by an actual pedoph*le. I call bait on it.
Yesterday, 10:04 AM

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No, the nudity rules should be less strict.
Yesterday, 10:09 AM

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Funny how you make this take then your pfp is from a manga made by an actual pedoph*le. I call bait on it.
Rurouni Kenshin pfp is funny for real 😂
Yesterday, 10:10 AM

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I don't care about loli avatars, but I think we should ban GIFs.
Yesterday, 10:10 AM

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Reply to Atromentina
Funny how you make this take then your pfp is from a manga made by an actual pedoph*le. I call bait on it.
@Atromentina oh you're right. i remember reading news about the author of Samurai X getting arrested for having cp of actual real children.

edit:

skip to 2:21
You can buy lossless digital music from your favorite Japanese artists on https://ototoy.jp/.
The songs are all DRM-free and you can re-download your purchased albums as you wish.
Show your support to your favorite artist if you can!
ps. if you are looking for Japanese albums, you have to search it in Japanese (not romaji). Just copy and paste the name.

For those who want to learn Japanese through anime
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Yesterday, 10:15 AM

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It is already against the rules to have nudity in pfp. Rule I.2. II.b V.3 of https://xss.now.cc/forum/?topicid=516059
I don't get what the hell is your stricter change proposal, but I am against it.
Yesterday, 10:15 AM

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Reply to Lucifrost
@Wolfyrinn
???? Underage girls wear bikinis in real life too.
@Lucifrost you don't have dudes posting underage girls in bikinis as their profile pictures in public websites do you? they get banned for that in any western website
Yesterday, 10:16 AM

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Reply to IkemenSenpai
Why don’t you just ignore them and do your thing? They’re not really harming anyone. I know some of it might be inappropriate, but if it actually crosses the line, just report it, the mods will decide if it’s ban-worthy or not.

I don’t get why some people have this constant urge to act like the good guy. Just let everyone enjoy what they like, besides those characters are fictional, they’re not even real.
@IkemenSenpai someone have to be the *good guy* so certain things don't go out of control
Yesterday, 10:18 AM

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Reply to Otakupervert890
@Wolfyrinn then I ask Japanese to regulate what wrong in your country since you aren't doing it yourself. Its basically what you are saying but only for them while not even looking at your country. People like you are a joke because you don't even notice your own hypocrisy.
@Otakupervert890 western countries don't have problems involving anime as anime get regulations and censorship in the west when it get's released so
Yesterday, 10:18 AM

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Reply to Atromentina
Funny how you make this take then your pfp is from a manga made by an actual pedoph*le. I call bait on it.
@Atromentina never read manga and anime don't have any pedo elements as far as i remember
Yesterday, 10:19 AM
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Reply to Wolfyrinn
@IkemenSenpai someone have to be the *good guy* so certain things don't go out of control
@Wolfyrinn so pfp are a thing that go out of control? What are the risks if it actually go out of control? What danger they represent worth the investment?
Yesterday, 10:19 AM

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Reply to DreamingBeats
@Atromentina oh you're right. i remember reading news about the author of Samurai X getting arrested for having cp of actual real children.

edit:

skip to 2:21
@DreamingBeats samurai x author being cp is irrevelent to the anime production because anime was made by a company and a lot of peoples worked on it so unless all of them are evil it have nothing to do with the anime...also considering rurouni is that popular and sold 72 million copies there will be a lot of peoples who love that anime and many of them who don't even know anything about its author so
Yesterday, 10:20 AM

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krautnelson said:
I don't care about loli avatars, but I think we should ban GIFs.

True, some of them are annoyingly distracting.
Yesterday, 10:20 AM

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Rurouni Kenshin pfp is funny for real 😂
@Zarutaku tried catching me off guard but then he learns rurouni sold 72 million copies and series have a lot of fans :D
Yesterday, 10:21 AM

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Reply to Wolfyrinn
@DreamingBeats samurai x author being cp is irrevelent to the anime production because anime was made by a company and a lot of peoples worked on it so unless all of them are evil it have nothing to do with the anime...also considering rurouni is that popular and sold 72 million copies there will be a lot of peoples who love that anime and many of them who don't even know anything about its author so
@Wolfyrinn so you think it's fine to have as your profile pic the work of an author charged and convicted of having cp of real children.
personally i'd find it disturbing, but you do you.
You can buy lossless digital music from your favorite Japanese artists on https://ototoy.jp/.
The songs are all DRM-free and you can re-download your purchased albums as you wish.
Show your support to your favorite artist if you can!
ps. if you are looking for Japanese albums, you have to search it in Japanese (not romaji). Just copy and paste the name.

For those who want to learn Japanese through anime
Resources for learning the language
Yesterday, 10:21 AM
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Reply to Wolfyrinn
@Otakupervert890 western countries don't have problems involving anime as anime get regulations and censorship in the west when it get's released so
@Wolfyrinn don't have problem? You are joking right. Every single country on earth have his problem it come with how human nature is. So please stop you are just enforcing yourself down and some won't be as gentle as me to put you down on your hypocrisy.
Yesterday, 10:22 AM

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No, no way...

The cunny must stay...
Yesterday, 10:23 AM

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@Wolfyrinn so pfp are a thing that go out of control? What are the risks if it actually go out of control? What danger they represent worth the investment?
@Otakupervert890 think outside the box what would happen to the pfp that is allowed here if you would post somewhere else ? :) like twitter for example :)
Yesterday, 10:23 AM

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Reply to DreamingBeats
@Wolfyrinn so you think it's fine to have as your profile pic the work of an author charged and convicted of having cp of real children.
personally i'd find it disturbing, but you do you.
@DreamingBeats Anti loli purists are always projecting to hide their true ways...
Yesterday, 10:25 AM

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@Otakupervert890 think outside the box what would happen to the pfp that is allowed here if you would post somewhere else ? :) like twitter for example :)
@Wolfyrinn this isn't twitter.

words for the wordcount god.
Yesterday, 10:26 AM

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@Wolfyrinn so you think it's fine to have as your profile pic the work of an author charged and convicted of having cp of real children.
personally i'd find it disturbing, but you do you.
@DreamingBeats i don't find anything disturbing about it when you think about it how many peoples worked on rurouni kenshin anime and how big of a project it was sure they used a pedo baseline work but a lot of things got changed and updated by the peoples who worked on it anime as itself isn't pedophilic is it?
Yesterday, 10:34 AM

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Wolfyrinn said:
@rohan121 but stuff like showing skirts,underwear,bikini and that type of stuff is allowed while it's on minor characters?


Shit like skirts, underwear, and bikinis are just clothing. Clothing itself isn't inherently sexual. It's the context and the intent behind how it's portrayed that matters. If platforms like MAL started banning characters just for wearing common items of clothing because someone might view them as sexual, you'd end up with a ban on almost everything. People can sexualize any shit, even something as mundane as shoes. The problem isn’t the clothing, if one views the things you listed as sexual content that is more of how that individual User view those things more than anything else.

More to the point when it comes to fictional characters, underaged is subjective. Unless someone is posting actual real life people, MAL doesn't restrict fictional depictions of characters unless they are graphically nude or some shit like that.

MAL allows users to use avatars of fictional characters, including those who commonly appear underage, as long as the image isn’t overtly sexualized or breaking their content guidelines. Where this type of thing would be subjective in itself, judged by the moderators I would guess.
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Yesterday, 10:34 AM

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peoples are fine with loli fanservice and all the freedom they love to have but at the same time discontent with rurouni kenshin anime pfp because it's author was pedophile lets also forget the fact rurouni kenshin sold 72 million copies and was known to be very good classic work that introduced peoples to the anime and made influence to the anime genre itself also it's not like rurouni anime was created by 1 person and author himself entire teams and companies worked on it if you denounce entire production and countless people hard work on it just because it's creator did something bad years later doesn't make much sense does it?
Yesterday, 10:39 AM
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Reply to Wolfyrinn
peoples are fine with loli fanservice and all the freedom they love to have but at the same time discontent with rurouni kenshin anime pfp because it's author was pedophile lets also forget the fact rurouni kenshin sold 72 million copies and was known to be very good classic work that introduced peoples to the anime and made influence to the anime genre itself also it's not like rurouni anime was created by 1 person and author himself entire teams and companies worked on it if you denounce entire production and countless people hard work on it just because it's creator did something bad years later doesn't make much sense does it?
@Wolfyrinn Tatsuya Matsuki prove the point of why it stir with rorouni kenshin even though here Shiro Usazaki is innocent. The effects are still inbound.
Yesterday, 10:39 AM

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@Lucifrost you don't have dudes posting underage girls in bikinis as their profile pictures in public websites do you? they get banned for that in any western website
@Wolfyrinn
I don't know. I never bothered to check if bikini drawings are allowed since I don't intend to post such pics myself.
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Yesterday, 10:40 AM

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Wolfyrinn said:
@rohan121 but stuff like showing skirts,underwear,bikini and that type of stuff is allowed while it's on minor characters?


Shit like skirts, underwear, and bikinis are just clothing. Clothing itself isn't inherently sexual. It's the context and the intent behind how it's portrayed that matters. If platforms like MAL started banning characters just for wearing common items of clothing because someone might view them as sexual, you'd end up with a ban on almost everything. People can sexualize any shit, even something as mundane as shoes. The problem isn’t the clothing, if one views the things you listed as sexual content that is more of how that individual User view those things more than anything else.

More to the point when it comes to fictional characters, underaged is subjective. Unless someone is posting actual real life people, MAL doesn't restrict fictional depictions of characters unless they are graphically nude or some shit like that.

MAL allows users to use avatars of fictional characters, including those who commonly appear underage, as long as the image isn’t overtly sexualized or breaking their content guidelines. Where this type of thing would be subjective in itself, judged by the moderators I would guess.
@ColourWheel so in the end the person who decide whether someone is rule break or not is moderators and each of them will have their own individual opinion about it even if they abide by the rules mal have their own opinion still affect the judgement about it
Yesterday, 10:57 AM

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Wolfyrinn said:
ColourWheel said:
Shit like skirts, underwear, and bikinis are just clothing. Clothing itself isn't inherently sexual. It's the context and the intent behind how it's portrayed that matters. If platforms like MAL started banning characters just for wearing common items of clothing because someone might view them as sexual, you'd end up with a ban on almost everything. People can sexualize any shit, even something as mundane as shoes. The problem isn’t the clothing, if one views the things you listed as sexual content that is more of how that individual User view those things more than anything else.

More to the point when it comes to fictional characters, underaged is subjective. Unless someone is posting actual real life people, MAL doesn't restrict fictional depictions of characters unless they are graphically nude or some shit like that.

MAL allows users to use avatars of fictional characters, including those who commonly appear underage, as long as the image isn’t overtly sexualized or breaking their content guidelines. Where this type of thing would be subjective in itself, judged by the moderators I would guess.

@ColourWheel so in the end the person who decide whether someone is rule break or not is moderators and each of them will have their own individual opinion about it even if they abide by the rules mal have their own opinion still affect the judgement about it


A while back I created my own forum signature, I got a warning about it, and it was not because the signature featured a picture of the fictional character Aika Sumeragi in a pose that happens to expose part of their panties. I got a warning because my forum signature simply exceeded the forum rules for going over a file size limit. Once I reduced the file size, I resubmitted the signature and the moderator approved it as acceptable.

So panties to the moderators are not seen as sexual content. I would assume the same thing goes for bikinis and skirts too. lol

Plus you are talking about a medium where Users will commonly use a character from their favorite Anime as a profile pic.

MAL isn't going to started banning every 2000 year old vampire Loli gramma off this site simply because a single Users thinks that character looks underage. lol

Like I said before as long as a fictional character isn't graphically nude, generally MAL will allow it. They would likely remove any pictures of actual real life people who look under age as a profile pic though.


Yesterday, 11:08 AM
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MAL already has rules against those type of images. Either people aren't reporting those pages or MAL mods are slow to act on them.
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MAL already has rules against those type of images. Either people aren't reporting those pages or MAL mods are slow to act on them.
Prideful_Lion said:
MAL already has rules against those type of images. Either people aren't reporting those pages or MAL mods are slow to act on them.


Technically there isn't a strict “avatar policy” on this site that I have ever seen. I would assume it just falls back on their "Community Standards & Terms of Service" which would include such things a graphic nudity, actual pornography, and explicit sexual imagery (all of which is subjective to the moderators).


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Wolfyrinn said:
but stuff like showing skirts,underwear,bikini and that type of stuff is allowed while it's on minor characters?


Yes, it's allowed, as it very well should be. If you dislike them then there is an exceedingly simple solution: Don't select them as images to adorn your own profile page and don't visit or make return visits to stare at the images of those who include them as their own decor of choice.

If you proceed to operate on that basis, then how is it affecting you? It isn't. The content you're referring to is directly sourced from and all over non-hentai anime anyway, so it wouldn't make any consistent sense to censor imagery from non-pornographic anime which comprise a large portion of this website's database and purpose. Those series have many fans, so why should they be disenfranchised from posting whichever images they want from those series? At least with hentai you can argue it's too explicit for a shared public space. But nothing is too explicit about underwear or bikinis.

The age of the characters is completely irrelevant.
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