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DarkFirefly72 said:
Fukoku said:
For One Piece, it's that a lot of the arcs just have the same plotline.
Yeah, that is certainly true.From my favs in MAL One Piece is definitely the show with the most flaws, but ironically enough it is my 3rd favorite anime ever because I don't think there will ever be a storyof the caliber of OP.

The other big problem with One Piece is that the pacing is terrible. But granted, that’s more on the anime since they only adapt 1 chapter per episode, sometimes even less than half a chapter.

Hopefully the WIT remake changes this.
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I'll do it for six of my top seven (#s 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 of my overall top favorites) as one of them has no flaws and is the sole perfect anime to me and beyond #7, I no longer have neat and readily identifiable criticisms or specific issues with the series that follow. Like a bunch of the other ones I rated 9/10s. It may be and indeed is in some cases that there isn't even anything at all specifically wrong with them which I can identify and recognize, and I only rated them 9/10 as opposed to a 10/10 simply because they weren't as life-changing or near-life-changing pieces of art and experiences as the 10s. But I still love them.

Anyway,

Inuyasha:

- The change from handpainted cel animation which episodes 1 - 98 were in to digital for the rest of the series from episode 99 to 193. I still to this day prefer the beautiful distinct look and shading, texture, etc. of handpainted cel even over later and today's digital, but early 2000s digital was often even worse than what came later and rougher as it was in the midst of transition from cel to it. I wish the entire series including the films were all in cel - it feels even more aesthetically pleasing and immersive, playing better on that retroactive nostalgia I have for some cartoons which looked similar from the 80s through the mid-late 90s which I used to watch as a kid in the 90s/2000s long before discovering anime and Inuyasha.

- Koga is almost always an annoying character whenever he appears and the one character I primarily dislike and Shippo is also occasionally an annoying character when he gets excessively bratty and spiteful with the pranking and childishness. That's when I want Inuyasha to kick him straight to the moon. Consequently, some of the Koga-centric and Shippo-centric episodes, of which admittedly there aren't a tremendous amount, are the only ones I either skip on rewatches of the series, skip parts of, or watch in full but don't look forward to or enjoy as much as everything else.

- The last season, entitled The Final Act, is very rushed in parts and better but still largely too rushed/fast-paced in other parts. It also has some of the best and most memorable, important, and critical moments of the entire series, but for that reason also I wish those episodes and scenes could have gotten even more buildup, aftermath, and breathing space. Unlike many people who complain about the main preceding seasons of the series during its original run prior to the hiatus (episodes 1 - 167 which aired from 2000 - 2004), I don't find the pacing slow at all in a negative sense but absolutely ideal and the quickened approach of TFA disorienting and unfortunate.

The absolute worst of it is the first episode (episode 1 of TFA, episode 168 of Inuyasha overall) but the first quarter or so of it is all significantly harmed by it. The remaining around three quarters is better but still not ideal and as good and appropriate as the earlier episodes' pacing. This last season covers roughly 40% of the entire series. To allow just 26 episodes for it (even though a full two cour for many modern anime series for a season seems more than generous in the context of the obsessive switch to one cours - so many not just seasons of a series, but entire series themselves only ever get two cours or less) was short-sighted, it was a decision obviously made from impatience and placing whichever relevant time and money concerns held sway over logic and quality, and it was disgraceful. It's a testament to how much else done right and how good the remaining parts of this season and the series as a whole are that I can still rate it a 10/10 (which for me doesn't equate to "perfection" but simply the descriptor which MAL itself uses for the numerical rating, which is "masterpiece" - only one of my eight 10/10s do I actually consider legitimately perfect).

- I also am not keen on the art style changes in the films which I think was done more to reflect or imitate and be more in line with the original manga style. And similar to that, there was a slight art style change with some of the character designs in the last season which I've always noticed and felt mildly off but am only articulating now, which is, like the films, the faces seem a bit differently proportioned with larger eyes. I like and prefer the style which predominates throughout the majority of the series outside that (basically episodes 1 - 167, different from the films and TFA).

Okay, Inuyasha ones done. It's the one I care the most about since that is the series closest to my heart.

Haibane Renmei (spoilers):

- It's such a unique concept and setting that I wish there could have been more explicitly relayed answers and explanations to the whys and hows of the world setting. It's obviously designed with the intent to evoke associations of Christian angels in purgatory even though stating that openly is deliberately avoided and other names and terms are used. But is that the actual truth of it? Is it just the convenient form Glie assumes to feel familiar to the audience and/or characters themselves due to linkage in the popular imagination? Are the humans real or just like illusory NPCs? If they are real, what specific unique circumstances caused them to end up in this predicament of living in one walled off isolated city alongside haibane and unable to leave? Is it reincarnation-style karmic punishment for something they did in a previous life while on Earth? Is it a generational collective punishment? Are the Toga fully humans, former and now old, partially failed haibane, or some other species?

What lies beyond the walls? The expanse of a full planet or only a few more villages or small towns or cities and fields, forests, rivers, etc. before a void and nothingness of space where you would fall over the edge like pre-Columbian explorers used to envision Earth? Is it another dimension entirely or something which can't even be connected to our universe or any other because it's more just an afterlife realm as you would imagine heaven, hell, and purgatory should be? Like the realm in Death Parade and Tasokare Hotel. If all goes well, following directly from the Day of Flight, do they eventually reincarnate or ascend to heaven? I assume that going back to their previous lives before death to the moment right before they died like a time travel story where the main character manages to reverse everything and return perfectly is out of the question.

Of course, I realize and understand full well that much of it is left deliberately ambiguous because it's not really the point and is rather a philosophical meditative mood and thought piece, imploring members of the audience to "Think for yourselves! Fill in your own canvas. Have discussions and debates over the multiple varying interpretations. The answer is subject to interpretation and whatever it individually means to you personally". And recognize that there is a certain charm and value in that approach, that it allows for greater flexibility and greater viewer freedom and introspective thought. That it heightens its mysterious aura. And that's all true. But the analytical me who likes to pick everything apart and have an exhaustive exploration and examination of such topics in full detail can't help but feel a little cheated and left wanting on that front. Especially because the series is so short and only one season, with no follow-up OVA side stories or anything of the like, even just for fun and showing trivial things. It's a bit disappointing that it's in a way so terse and sparse and that's all we'll likely ever get from it.

Higurashi:

This really only affects first-time viewers and the impatient and skeptical, but outside of avant-garde/arthouse series with super minimal or esoteric dialogue and framing of many scenes (a la Lain and others in that vein - we'll get there), I find this to be one of the most inaccessible series out there. I've long since lost count how many forum comments and reviews I've read bemoaning the sense of confusion and feeling lost which its writing goes to great lengths to intentionally foster. So many people give up after the first four episodes, midway through the first season, or after the end of the first season (which, that last one always feels the most irrational, pointless, and self-defeating to me as they're literally right on the immediate cusp of starting to get far more answers, eventually a deluge of them, the lack of which prompted their dropping in the first place - but at that point their trust and faith in the series is near zero so it's largely unbeknownst to them).

Now, I don't like to register the failings and shortcomings of viewers as a demerit against a series. Upon my own first watch, I was similarly skeptical, as I too, perhaps like some others, have had the experience of series, anime or otherwise, teasing and leading you down a primrose path and tantalizing you all the while with promises of a proper epic and satisfying conclusion only for it all to end in a wet fart and like they were just scamming the audience, either because the end was rushed with low effort, they maybe put in all their effort but the writing is just weak and not up to the task, or the series even gets ruined by somewhat unavoidable external factors like cut budget or cancellation. Well, fortunately I am cautious and skeptical due to those previous experiences, but I am the opposite of impatient. And fortunately none of those dreaded scenarios came to pass.

But I struggle to really identify any other faults of the series, so that high barrier of entry for a lot of first-time viewers, even getting me to doubt at some point (around the time of the Shion arc and perspective shift) if it was going to tell a conclusive rewarding story or be like one of those failed cases, is the only one I can really think of.

- Oh, and this is super minor and petty, but a few of those animation and voice syncing mistakes in the first season, with the most infamous being the Mion ladder scene.

Kenpuu Denki Berserk:

- Unfinished and cut off at practically the worst possible moment in the biggest and most obnoxious "F you, read the manga!" ending of all time. The fact that it's so blatantly unfinished and handled in a way which I find distasteful and totally disrespectful to the audience at that, and that I still give this series a 10/10 and place it in my Top 5, after all that, similar to Inuyasha, is a testament to how grand and glorious all other aspects and everything else going on with it is. I'd even go so far as to say that if it went on much longer, not just right after the Golden Age arc, but for many dozens or even hundreds more episodes, that I doubt its capacity to unseat my top two favorites, but it may well even climb ahead of 3 and 4 to reach the third rank. But alas, not to be.

- Censorship. Not every single change do I have a problem with as I feel like some wouldn't have added anything of value or personal interest (like the torturer being different from in the manga, for example), but I was disappointed when I read certain scenes, like the human-disguised demon feasting on human flesh, from the first episode (part of the Black Swordsman arc), were toned down and in a way that form of censorship done in the name of artistic license is a lot more damaging than blurring/pixelating/black bars or circles/steam effects/etc. because it's not intended to be doable to manipulate and digitally alter and remove later for home DVD or Blu-Ray release or anything, but is written and baked into the story at conception.

Serial Experiments Lain:

- Similar to Higurashi, there's mainly just an accessibility issue. This is a different form of inaccessibility though. Unlike Higurashi, it's not the "Will these seemingly disparate and disconnected short stories eventually intersect and culminate to become one cohesive whole and deliver something meaningful?" and more "Will any of this story actually end up making any kind of coherent sense by its end?" I'd probably consider this the most inaccessible anime series I've seen. And unlike the other where I kept the prudent skepticism in the back of my mind but it didn't really substantially affect my overall enjoyment of watching the first time and just absorbing and taking in what was happening episode to episode, moment to moment, here it did to an extent because I really feared earlier on that it was going to be one of the ones which turned out as nonsense.

I would describe it as a 6/10 or 7/10 series for the majority of it upon first time viewing which only becomes a 10/10-level upon getting into the last few episodes and then seeing in retrospect how everything connects, and further upon subsequent rewatches now with the benefit of that holistic perspective in mind. In a way I dislike dinging it for that, but there are series, even some lower-rated ones further down in my favorites, which I more enthusiastically and thoroughly enjoyed every episode, scene, and minute of on the first time watch rather than after the fact and then revisiting. So it's something.

Noragami:

- Unfinished, with increasingly less sign that it ever will return and will be. We're now 10 years on from when the second season ended in 2015.

- Hiyori Iki can be better developed and internally explored (internal monologues) as a main character.

- Yukine is kind of the typical young boy often annoying character from a lot of Shounen and even moreso specifically battle shounen, which I would say that Noragami has elements of.

- The humor is sometimes a little too much and obtrusive in moments where it may dampen impact in an unwanted manner.

- I'm also not really a fan of the slightly battle shounen-esque organization or structuring of the series into a collection of arcs against different disconnected mini bosses (which Inuyasha manages to avoid by having one central villain established early on - "early on" being relative in what is a much longer series than Noragami - but then consistently looming as the main opposing force throughout). I've never favored the battle shounen way of having a bunch of different villains organized into arcs. Yes, some aren't true villains
and are actual future friends and allies in the battle shounen "enemy to friends" trope (which Inuyasha also utilizes
, but some are and I rather just have one overarching one throughout
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86? No s2 after years

AOT? Genociding & simping couldn't be eren so real lmao I hated that

Re zero? No OP or ED during certain eps sometimes /s

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First of all, that was a lot of text lol (I actually love that someone took the time to REALLY think about the question this deeply).
WatchTillTandava said:
I'll do it for six of my top seven (#s 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 of my overall top favorites) as one of them has no flaws and is the sole perfect anime to me
What is that "perfect anime" for you? I'm curious.
WatchTillTandava said:
The absolute worst of it is the first episode (episode 1 of TFA, episode 168 of Inuyasha overall) but the first quarter or so of it is all significantly harmed by it. The remaining around three quarters is better but still not ideal and as good and appropriate as the earlier episodes' pacing. This last season covers roughly 40% of the entire series. To allow just 26 episodes for it (even though a full two cour for many modern anime series for a season seems more than generous in the context of the obsessive switch to one cours - so many not just seasons of a series, but entire series themselves only ever get two cours or less) was short-sighted, it was a decision obviously made from impatience and placing whichever relevant time and money concerns held sway over logic and quality, and it was disgraceful. It's a testament to how much else done right and how good the remaining parts of this season and the series as a whole is that I can still rate it a 10/10 (which for me doesn't equate to "perfection" but simply the descriptor which MAL itself uses for the numerical rating, which is "masterpiece" - only one of my eight 10/10s do I actually consider legitimately perfect).
That is definitely a problem that has "ruined" a lot of animes over the years. Something similar may be happening to Kaguya Sama actually (I certainly hope not). They announced the next project for the anime after the movie they released covering the post season 3 arc, but the main poster for the next project suggests that they are going to quite literally skip several arcs from the manga (which still has like half of its content not animated) and just go straight into the ending. Of course nothing is confirmed, but it doesn't look good.
WatchTillTandava said:
- I also am not keen on the art style changes in the films which I think was done more to reflect or imitate and be more in line with the original manga style. And similar to that, there was a slight art style change with some of the character designs in the last season which I've always noticed and felt mildly off but am only articulating now, which is, like the films, the faces seem a bit differently proportioned with larger eyes. I like and prefer the style which predominates throughout the majority of the series outside that (basically episodes 1 - 167, different from the films and TFA).
Art style changes in the middle of shows can sometimes be very annoying. I think the worst one that I've actually seen is the Haikyuu from S4 onwards. I don't care if they tried to cover it up as "we are trying to make it closer looking to the manga", it simply looks much worse than the first 3 seasons, and it doesn't help that the animation from S4 is also worse. One Piece certainly changes its art style and I do think there was a magic about early OP regarding that. I do forgive them because the animation upgrade is insane.
WatchTillTandava said:
- It's such a unique concept and setting that I wish there could have been more explicitly relayed answers and explanations to the whys and hows of the world setting. It's obviously designed with the intent to evoke associations of Christian angels in purgatory even though stating that openly is deliberately avoided and other names and terms are used. But is that the actual truth of it? Is it just the convenient form Glie assumes to feel familiar to the audience and/or characters themselves due to linkage in the popular imagination? Are the humans real or just like illusory NPCs? If they are real, what specific unique circumstances caused them to end up in this predicament of living in one walled off isolated city alongside haibane and unable to leave? Is it reincarnation-style karmic punishment for something they did in a previous life while on Earth? Is it a generational collective punishment? Are the Toga fully humans, former and now old, partially failed haibane, or some other species?
I haven't seen Haibane Renmei but it seems like the author didn't want to do much wordlbuilding XD, because those are too many questions to justify that he/she forgot or smth.
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(which, that last one always feels the most irrational, pointless, and self-defeating to me as they're literally right on the immediate cusp of starting to get far more answers, eventually a deluge of them, the lack of which prompted their dropping in the first place - but at that point their trust and faith in the series is near zero so it's largely unbeknownst to them).
It is infuriating when people drop a show/manga when they are on the cusp of "the good stuff" but as you said, you have to take into account that as first time watchers they don't know that. I hate when people say that they dropped Steins;Gate like 8 or 9 episode in but those are indeed slice of life -esque eps and if you don't fuck with that you aren't going to like the first half of the show that much.
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Unfinished and cut off at practically the worst possible moment in the biggest and most obnoxious "F you, read the manga!" ending of all time.
I have never watched that version of Berserk but I do plan on reading the manga right after finishing My Hero Academica (seems crazy to delay it for that but I have my reasons) and I've heard that the place they ended that show is batshit crazy. Like if you handpicked another part of the manga you couldn't come up with a worst part to cut it off.
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I'd probably consider this the most inaccessible anime series I've seen.
I personally don't feel that I'm that inaccesible when it comes to that type of shows. I plan to watch Serial Experiment Lain in the future and it could be a 3/10 show up until the last 3 or 4 episodes but I'm going to finish it. With animes that have that much critical and general acclaim I like to always give them the benefit of the doubt (like people always said that One Piece eventually gets better and it actually did lol). I hated watching Mob Psycho all the way through, but I finished all 3 seasons because that is the only way of actually forming and opinion that is worth making imo.
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DarkFirefly72 said:
First of all, that was a lot of text lol (I actually love that someone took the time to REALLY think about the question this deeply).


Oh, I'm glad you read and enjoyed - I only have two modes of apathy/disinterest and taking something fanatically seriously, so I think it's inherently unnatural-feeling and difficult for me to answer a question like this in too casual a way, with more of a brief, casual, passing answer. It feels wrong somehow.

I mean, not all my posts on MAL are long and of the same/similar length as sometimes I am just able to answer something quickly, especially if I don't have the energy or time at that particular time or if it's something I already answered in the past three, five, 10, 20+ times. But when it's something I have a lot on my mind on I feel compelled. And this question I have answered numerous times before, but somehow still felt there were some new points I wanted to add to it and old ones I wanted to expand further.

But whenever my writing runs on on the longer side I just assume I'm the only one reading it, which I don't mind as I still find it fulfilling to put my thoughts onto a page/screen and derive some pleasure and release from that, so it's a pleasant bonus whenever the rare few actually do read and ask questions or share their own opinions and thoughts. Thanks.

As for your own question:

DarkFirefly72 said:
What is that "perfect anime" for you? I'm curious.


Oh, it's #2 in my overall top favorites - Koi Kaze (the series which my forum avatar and profile picture, one and the same, derives from). The single only anime I wouldn't add, remove, or otherwise alter in any way any part of any episode down to each individual scene and frame, from the first second to the last. It's not something I ever expect to see replicated or matched in that way.

I appreciate all of your individual responses as well as your collective response.

By the way, while I could quickly check the numerical rating you've bestowed upon it, if you've in fact given one, after that end of the multi-season journey, what did you end up thinking about Mob Psycho as a whole? It's one of those series I haven't watched at all, not even a minute or briefest of clips from, and never had any real desire to because I don't watch a lot of battle shounens (and I assume that it is one). Even though my #1 favorite (Inuyasha) is technically also in a way a battle shounen, ironically, but it's a bit of an unusual one.

And if and when the time arrives when you take that plunge, I would welcome the chance to hear your musings on Serial Experiments Lain and to see whether you convert to the cult of Lain.
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WatchTillTandava said:
But whenever my writing runs on on the longer side I just assume I'm the only one reading it, which I don't mind as I still find it fulfilling to put my thoughts onto a page/screen and derive some pleasure and release from that, so it's a pleasant bonus whenever the rare few actually do read and ask questions or share their own opinions and thoughts. Thanks.
I think I share the same sentiment. Like it is enough for me to actually write my opinion, but it is pretty annoying if I write all that and no one even acknowledges it. I have written some pretty long things in MAL so I do expect people to read them (probably the longest one was regarding an idea I had about parallels between Haikyuu and Slam Dunk), I wouldn't write them otherwise.
WatchTillTandava said:
By the way, while I could quickly check the numerical rating you've bestowed upon it, if you've in fact given one, after that end of the multi-season journey, what did you end up thinking about Mob Psycho as a whole? It's one of those series I haven't watched at all, not even a minute or briefest of clips from, and never had any real desire to because I don't watch a lot of battle shounens (and I assume that it is one). Even though my #1 favorite (Inuyasha) is technically also in a way a battle shounen, ironically, but it's a bit of an unusual one.
First of all I would still recommend to anyone who wants to watch Mob Psycho to do it because I'm in the minority of people (the ones who don't like the show) and also because it does get better with every season and the character conclusions are actually pretty satisfying. Now for my actual opinion about the show, overall I would probably give it a 5 (1st season a 4, 2nd a 5 and 3rd a 6) so it is not like I think it is the worst piece of fiction ever written (it is pretty funny to point out that for some reason every person I know irl doesn't like Mob Psycho either and I recently made a forum about that, but that is too off topic). My main problem with the show are the characters: I either hate them or think they are incredibly boring (I also hate its comedy). The thing is that Mob Psycho is an anime constructed around its characters and not its plot so if you don't like the characters it is a lost battle from the start. I don't want to delve too deeply into spoilers as you haven't seen the show, but Mob is imo the least interesting MC I've seen in all my years watching anime (and that goes for basically the rest of the cast), and I hate DEEPLY characters like Reigen, Mob's brother or Dimple for things they did in the show (and I hated even more that then they tried to sell me the idea that I had to love them after what I believed to be halfassed redemption arcs). From the fact that I only liked 1 member of the entire cast (Hanazawa) I didn't care for their character arcs or even for the fights themselves as the main point of them was to continues those exact arcs. The only fight I loved from the show was the final one from the 2nd season which I actually think has some pretty good thematic discourse around it (and amazing animation like every other fight of the show). The thing is that the 3rd season actually finished EVERY SINGLE character arc in a very satisfying and fitting way, but because I basically hated or didn't care for every single character I didn't care for their conclusiones either (but if you love the characters you will very probably love that as well).
WatchTillTandava said:
And if and when the time arrives when you take that plunge, I would welcome the chance to hear your musings on Serial Experiments Lain and to see whether you convert to the cult of Lain.
I will surely do that.
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For Mononoke, I wanted ANY sort of backstory on Kusuriuri.

He's cool, but we the audience know next to nothing about him and I would LOVE some extra depth to his character.
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K-On how it doesn't have enough music performances. I know it has more in season 2, but could've used more.
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