| This is where you can talk among yourselves after you're dead in a game or you're not in any games or if you're bored. It used to be called "The Dead Thread". But that's confusing because Dead Threads should be kept separate from game to game, so it was changed to "The Undead Chat Thread", but that's trying WAY too hard imo. So now it's just "Chat Thread". Amazing. Don't mention ongoing games. Don't spam/troll/flame or any of that horrible stuff. Also, don't even think about mentioning ongoing games. Just don't, ya know? |
FoOct 27, 2016 11:22 PM
| I think it's starting out ok, but I look forward to even larger games once more members join, (if they do). |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| we will do bigger games that will be themed once we get more members these game sizes are just to get us started so our members have stuff to do |
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Jackrito said: we will do bigger games that will be themed once we get more members these game sizes are just to get us started so our members have stuff to do I understand that, but as far as I know, the small games will be over in a (relatively) short amount of time. What i've learned from playing with my friends is that a game gets really good when you give it time to heat up. But for now, small games will do just fine. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| I understand that and i agree with u that bigger games are better because we can get into them more. From what i understand our 3rd game will be small as well but that will have a theme to it and the 4th will be bigger i think because we will hopefully we have the people by than. i am putting some stuff into my game to make it more intresting as well since it is a smaller game.so i hope everyone enjoys it when i get enough people signed up |
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| I'm looking forward to your game, and I hope we'll have enough people to begin the game shortly. It's going to be awesome. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| i was hopeing to start it tomorrow at some point so if u guys know anyone who is intrested it would help. I have all the roles picked out already and i think it is balanced. i just hope they is no problems like with the 1 one my this my 1 time hosting a game so want it to go well. |
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grave_robberJul 10, 2014 5:55 PM
| In any event, I revised my idea about family names, and I thought it would be better utilized if we use them for possible "factions" in this club, (once the club grows, of course). The names could even be Italian. But then again, I might be thinking to far ahead. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
grave_robber said: I have a few questions:
1 Mafia ratio depends on the host and town will not know the ratio to keep it fun and intresting. 2Yes they must all die i believe a mafioso becomes a GF when GF dies as well. 3 The sk goal is to kill everyone it is a hard role to do but fun at the same time and the mafia do not know who sk is likewise sk does not know who mafia is so just all random guesses. |
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| The ratio really depends on the setup but you can usually be sure that the town well over the majority. Yes. In most cases. Well, an adept SK would normally hold off for more info before targeting anyone but they do have the ability to kill one person of their choice per night, speaking strictly on the most basic form of the role. |
| 6 second ninja, impressive I'd just like to thank nyacat, haine and everyone else who did a fantastic job on the graphics. Well done. |
| i am intrested in the family name idea but that may be thinking too far ahead. u can pm me or bomb if u want to talk about it more. |
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| I agree we all should thank aria,nyancat and haine for doing the graphics and cards on here all good friends of mine who did this without been asked so thanks to them. |
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Jackrito said: grave_robber said: I have a few questions:
1 Mafia ratio depends on the host and town will not know the ratio to keep it fun and intresting. 2Yes they must all die i believe a mafioso becomes a GF when GF dies as well. 3 The sk goal is to kill everyone it is a hard role to do but fun at the same time and the mafia do not know who sk is likewise sk does not know who mafia is so just all random guesses. so sk means serial killer & GF means ?? |
| Gf means the godfather there are the leasder of the mafia and have special skills to give them a adv which are i believe they can not die at night and can not be seen as mafia by cop they are other skills but they are the main ones |
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| I had one other question to ask. I was wondering if one is allowed to form public, (within the game), alliances with other players? Alliances by day, that is. Those who are aligned would not vote on each other, and they would also consult each other on where they should place their votes. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
LucianRoy said: I had one other question to ask. I was wondering if one is allowed to form public, (within the game), alliances with other players? Alliances by day, that is. Those who are aligned would not vote on each other, and they would also consult each other on where they should place their votes. You can form public alliances, it's whether they trust you or not or whether you that them or not. Are they really trustworthy? Is it possible that they are just using you? Does it make you suspicious of being mafia? And also consider that other people will know your alliance. Of course they can break the alliance any time they wish to. |
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Bombolz said: LucianRoy said: I had one other question to ask. I was wondering if one is allowed to form public, (within the game), alliances with other players? Alliances by day, that is. Those who are aligned would not vote on each other, and they would also consult each other on where they should place their votes. You can form public alliances, it's whether they trust you or not or whether you that them or not. Are they really trustworthy? Is it possible that they are just using you? Does it make you suspicious of being mafia? And also consider that other people will know your alliance. Of course they can break the alliance any time they wish to. Sounds like fun! I can't wait for game two to start. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| I am ready to start whenever the last 2 slots are filled got everything set up to make it a fun balanced game hopefully |
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Jackrito said: You think game one is going anywhere? We need to start prioritizing 1 game at a time. We're not even close to big enough to run 2 games. So we either scrap game 1 or we replace people into it. I am ready to start whenever the last 2 slots are filled got everything set up to make it a fun balanced game hopefully Jack, I know that you try and mean well but it's apparent you really have no idea what you're talking about half the time, or how to run a club, for that matter. It would be cool if you got off the high horse and let the club live because you're killing it with bad decisions. |
| I say that in the nicest way possible. |
| I only did a second one because some of my friends asked me to sorry if that has upset some people i am trying to do the best i can here know i am shit at been admin i have said so myself but just trying to make things active the best i can sorry people if that is not good enough. |
JackritoJul 11, 2014 2:53 PM
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| The only thing I see you doing wrong really is trying to do this by yourself.. Ask for some help man. That's what you have me for. I don't even really think Bomb gives a shit about this place so it's up to me and you to bring in the members and actually fill up a sign up list. First order of business is to put our focus on ONE GAME. Might as well be the one we haven't started yet. I'd like to check out your set up too, if you don't mind I'm kinda curious and it's always good to have some one proof read your setup who's hosted before. What do you think? |
| And I never said you were "shit" just making some iffy decisions is all. This place has loads of potential and is a sweet idea for sure. |
| World wasn't built in a day my friend. If that's how you really feel though, then it's whatever. I'll make sure this club gets banging on all cylinders with or without ya, just would be easier with your help, is all. |
| ok sorry about that posted that without thinking really. I agree with u we may be better off with only 1 the 1 one started terrible and maybe better off dropping it and starting a pn a clean slate but i want to be sure everyone is fine with that 1. i am a lot more active than bomb so can keep a eye on things a bit better. i sent u my role list make any changes that u want to it i think it is balanced but not sure i apprenticate the help sorry about that last post a bit stressed about other things. |
JackritoJul 11, 2014 3:10 PM
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| Ok. I'm not a fan of starting with a "clean slate" per say. It's not really fair to the people who signed up for game 1. Are you still alive in that one anyway? I think prods and reps may be a good idea. Finish what you started is what my Grandfather always taught me. |
| @Fo-Fai so how can we gather members if no one can join a game , In my opinion it's perfect to have 2 open , so that If someone didn't catch up to the sign-up or changed his mind he can always join . I don't know why you don't want another one , Maybe you want to join them all ? If yes new members won't have the chance to join cause the same members joined both games + It'll confuse the players in the suspecting , He might lynch someone because he believes so from the other game , Which is bad . Jack is doing a great job with his idea to be honest. |
| Sorry I must not have been clear. I want to have everyone get a chance to play, I'd have no problem sitting out every game if need be. My main concerns lie in the inactivity of the hosts and the reluctance to post by our members in game one. It's dead and could easily be resuscitated with a few sub ins, rather than ditching it all together to start another game where for all we know the same thing could happen again. Please don't try and make me out to be the bad guy here because I'm not. |
| i understand that point of view that is why i waited till we had at least 30 members before i put up the 2 sign up thread because i thought people would join i am in a club with 3000 members and they cant fill a 15 person mafia game at times it happens no matter the size of the club. we did talk about subing in people but some people were aganist it and saying it is not in the rules which i can agree with and would of over complicated the game so not much i can do. On the subject of people not been active not much i can not do much about that we said in the sign up threads that we need people to be active who sign up i have no way of forceing them to be. Also some mafia games are this quite it happens. |
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| I don't see anything about substitutes in the rules. http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Rules Jackrito said: You don't have to do much at all. PM THEM AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE ALIVE. Can't play a game without players now can you?On the subject of people not been active not much i can not do much about that |
| In my game i will PM people to be active but i am not the type of person to annoy someone over it a lot thier it will send out a bad image of me and the club and may force people to leave. Thierr choice to be active and they should be f they sign up. but like i said i can only remind them/ but some people may be busy with IRL stuff so i am willing to accept some people not always been active. I still dont think subbing would work because of many reasons it sounds simple but it would cause problems I am in the mind of letting something run it course unless interferance is needed hopefully we will not be in this situation in the future |
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Jackrito said: Jack, you know that's bullshit. If you sign up for a game, it's common corrtesy to at least try and play it. I know that PMing somebody one time to ask if they happened to forget about the game wouldn't make the club look any kind of way other than that we want people to actually play. If they can't play because of real life endeavors then so be it, we fill their spot with someone who can.In my game i will PM people to be active but i am not the type of person to annoy someone over it a lot thier it will send out a bad image of me and the club and may force people to leave. Thierr choice to be active and they should be f they sign up. but like i said i can only remind them/ but some people may be busy with IRL stuff so i am willing to accept some people not always been active. Jackrito said: Such as?I still dont think subbing would work because of many reasons |
| I said i will pm them once maybe 3 times at most i have no problem with that anymore that is what i mean by not overdoing it.Also if people have irl problems i can only sub them out if they tell me before the game starts like someone did today. The problems with subbing people in and out would be that the new person will act in a differnt manner to the person they replaced which could be a postive or negative depending on the person. and will have been watching the game so they will have a unfair adv over everyone of knowing info about others but no one knows anything on them. I have also not been in a game where this has happened so not sure how it would we did discuss it like i said but agreed aganist it and i am going off now so will continue this later. Also subbing in the 1 game would be done by bomb anyway not me since he is host i was in that game so not much i can do with the subbing because i was could of been mafia or something and than could possibly cheat so talk to him about it. in my game i may sub people in if something happens not sure yet i would say let the host choose tbh but that is my view on it |
JackritoJul 11, 2014 6:06 PM
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| Any disadvantage you get from joining in a game late should be taken into account by the person joining in. If they want to join, chances are they don't really care and should expect to have to account for what the person they replaced said. Yes, it is a disadvantage but this isn't COMPETITIVE mafia, this is for fun. People simply just WANT TO PLAY. Bomb is the host of game one, yes. It's his call on what to do with that but you're hosting game 2, so let's try and make that one as successful as possible. Any ideas for how to do that, from anyone(feel free to join in) at this time would be much appreciated. |
| Sorry for seeming like I don't care, things have been a bit hectic lately for me, but I have been PMing less active people to participate. Furthermore, game 1 seems to only be active during a certain time of day, other times it's usually fairly quiet. I'm not sure when I'll be free, but hopefully that'll be soon. Sorry for the bad leadership, I'm still new to this stuff as well :( |
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| Ok I might have went a bit too far. You must care or you wouldn't have made the club in the first place, obviously. Well, Bomb, I guess we're waiting on you. I'd be more than happy to take over game 1 so we can finish it up, we seem to be awake in different time zones so dual hosting would be optimized in that regard. It's honestly up to you, though. |
| If people still aren't participating then I opp for the suicide method from TOS. If someone fails to post in the Day Phase then apparently they've committed suicide. It would speed up the process of game 1 and revile roles sooner for those who are actually playing the game. Also if this hasn't already been suggested, winners of the winning team, (Town, Mafia, Sk) should get a prize as an incentive for playing I think. |
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| right ok back on now i like i said i will make my own rules on posting and subbing people in for my gaame any any other host is free to do that as well as long as it is within reason. I will also consider your idea crow on killing people who are not active without giveing me a reason to make games that are going slow end faster. I also agree that we should do prizes and stuff for the winners that is something i will try to do for mine |
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Fo-Fai said: Ok I might have went a bit too far. You must care or you wouldn't have made the club in the first place, obviously. Well, Bomb, I guess we're waiting on you. I'd be more than happy to take over game 1 so we can finish it up, we seem to be awake in different time zones so dual hosting would be optimized in that regard. It's honestly up to you, though. Actually it might be a good idea if you host game 1 for at least the next few days at least, as I won't be on often. |
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| Kinda hard to host without the roles. Just message me when you get a chance. I'll message you the roles in about 10 hours, because I'll need to be at my computer for that. |
BombolzJul 12, 2014 9:28 AM
| I'm fine with Fo-Fai's idea(s). I have a question about Game v3? Am I still hosting it? I think the thread vanished or maybe I just can't find it. Since I've been playing in FG, I kinda have my head wrapped around things, and since it's the summertime, my schedule is fairly set. Additionally, since there's a good number of people in the group, it wouldn't hurt to have 2 GMs if need be...maybe someone from the winning side can join the host as an assistant for the next round, just a suggestion. I do appreciate all the work you guys have been putting into starting this group. Don't lose sight, and don't lose hope. The general interest is there, so this will all work out. |
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MaiTai said: I'm fine with Fo-Fai's idea(s). I have a question about Game v3? Am I still hosting it? I think the thread vanished or maybe I just can't find it. Since I've been playing in FG, I kinda have my head wrapped around things, and since it's the summertime, my schedule is fairly set. Additionally, since there's a good number of people in the group, it wouldn't hurt to have 2 GMs if need be...maybe someone from the winning side can join the host as an assistant for the next round, just a suggestion. I do appreciate all the work you guys have been putting into starting this group. Don't lose sight, and don't lose hope. The general interest is there, so this will all work out. Yeah u can host the 3rd game i dont know where that thread went but we agreed u can before so i am fine with that. Also haveing 2 gm is a good idea because of timezones so at least 1 should be on with 2 gm i am doing that now in game one since i am dead anyway. I am not worried about the club this was always going to be a slow start. all clubs on here start slow we just need to keep at it and it should grow hopefully. I am also willing to give anyone admin who wants to help keep the club in order I am doing my best but do need help at times so any is apprenicated thanks eeveryone who has been involed so far. |
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| Alright. Thank you. Once Game v2 officially starts, I will start preparing for the 3rd game. I don't mind being an admin. I'm already supposed to make cards for the winners or whatever. I will host a quick poll to see if people would rather have an Attack on Titan or NGNL theme. I'm currently deciding between the two. I want to do what the people want to do. As of now, there will be 15 slots to start it off. If it goes well, I'll push it to 20 and so on. My time zone is Central Standard Time, and I live in America, so if there is a 2nd GM, I'd like for him/her to be overseas from where I am. All info will be sent through me unless I am unable to do my duty at the time, and the 2nd will help out accordingly. Whoever this 2nd is would need to be able to communicate with me via Skype or another IM so we can be more efficient. (I try not to use MAL on mobile). |
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| Dang, Game two really intensified, and it's shaping up to be reeeaaallly good. I can't wait until day two. Anyhow, I noticed the chat had kind of died on this thread so I came to revitalize it. Plus I think everyone in this club should communicate more with each other in order to learn how various people think; thus giving one another an edge to play to their advantage. In other words, I suppose we could talk about anything that crosses our minds. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| Yea I was pleasantly surprised by how the day ended. It was quite fun. You bring up a pretty interesting point as well. Basing plays on people's meta is always a dicey strat but actually does work in theory. |
Fo-Fai said: Yea I was pleasantly surprised by how the day ended. It was quite fun. You bring up a pretty interesting point as well. Basing plays on people's meta is always a dicey strat but actually does work in theory. From playing with my friends I've learned that it's way more helpful if you know them as a person, and it does give a slight advantage for guessing their moves. But analyzing people on the chat doesn't have to be it's only purpose; people should get to know each other as well. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| Well, yea. I made this thread for light-hearted conversation. I'm always down to talk about mafia though. I think knowing how somebody plays and knowing who a person actually is are two different things anyway. Take me for example. I consider myself pretty easy going and relaxed most of the time. When it becomes a competition though, I'm an entirely different person. Like when I'm playing sports I def try my heart out to always win and take it to unhealthy extremes a lot of the time. You could call me a gym class hero, haha. You wouldn't know it just by talking to me though. |
Fo-Fai said: Well, yea. I made this thread for light-hearted conversation. I'm always down to talk about mafia though. I think knowing how somebody plays and knowing who a person actually is are two different things anyway. Take me for example. I consider myself pretty easy going and relaxed most of the time. When it becomes a competition though, I'm an entirely different person. Like when I'm playing sports I def try my heart out to always win and take it to unhealthy extremes a lot of the time. You could call me a gym class hero, haha. You wouldn't know it just by talking to me though. You're absolutely right, one can learn a lot about a person from just random conversation, but when they're in their zone, they could be unpredictable. It all depends on their skill set really. However, I think Mafia is a game everyone can play, and everyone can have a fun time with; whether or not they're good at the game. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
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