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Dec 15, 2016 12:34 PM
#101
Dec 15, 2016 12:35 PM
#102
Gruffin said: #66 Here I answered something Karote asked of Phraze. Kit picked up on it too in post #91 My question was answered in #74 but does that really answer the question I asked? Also everything else that was said made it all sound negative which I asked about in post #81. Also I am not sure how well Karote and Shinichi know one another but Karote's answers and responses seem rude to me for no apparent reason. logic340 said: Could you point out the posts that caught your interest and explain?I'm not sure they don't strike me either way really. Only game I ever played with Shinichi he was scum and was bussed by partner. I don't really get a scum vibe from him. The one who has caught my interested is Karote due to the way they form their questions. I can't get a read on where their motive lies as yet. Edit: Realized this is my 666th post. ←~(o `▽´ )oΨ "Where do you expect information to come from in the first place, smartass? xD" Is this this trying to evoke a reaction from onlooker, shinichi himself, or just the way they write? I don't expect you to have the answer but these are the questions that came into my mind. If it was me as town would I do it? As mafia what would be the benefit? Etc. |
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Dec 15, 2016 12:38 PM
#103
Kit said: Heheheh. >:3 I'm surprised you haven't gone after anyone like that after CCL (at least I think you haven't?). You almost broke me down D1 if you would've kept on. xD Thank god for Crossbell.I definitely always get the feeling I'm messing up someone's super secret town plans for catching scum by fishing but so many times that I think that, it turns out they were scum :/ ie the first time I ever suspected someone in a game I was in.. you :D Tbh, I wouldn't mind a Karote train right now. Sounds just as good as a Shinichi train. |
Dec 15, 2016 12:39 PM
#104
logic340 said: Karote said: This is only my fourth game but what I have learned is that our vote is the best pressure we have. Everyone talking about doesn't necessarily make them feel the pressure but leading the lynch certainly does. We have 48 hours so long as we aren't stuck in RVS (like Nanatsu game) I think we will have a fair shot at finding reasonable targets. From my short experience D1 seems to be one of the best days for getting information. Everyone feels and deals with pressure in different ways (grrr lead lynch for 3 days in NnT and was unphased) by the pressure. logic340 said: Karote said: That isn't what I took from what Phraze said at all. What I got from it is that Phraze feels you and Ruu's votes are for pressure to get information rather than an actual lynch target. The second part is saying they feel that it would be suspicious if these votes really were their lynch targets this early in the game.Phraze said: Karote's and Ruu's votes seem to be pressuring activity more than rvs lynching. if they wanted to lynch with their votes, it's suspicious. Sounds like you much more prefer random lynching, am I right? Did you really not understand that or is there something else you are going for with this questioning? To get an actual lynch target, you do need some kind of basis formed around it or it will be just pretty much shot in the dark and the lynch target most likely won't be pressured enough to give anything. I mean, you could choose someone at random and ask them questions but I doubt that will go much anywhere, worth a try though and encourages a player to post. Your posts come across as negative what kind of experiences have you had with Mafia? Yeah, so? I don't know what you're trying to say there, that votes pressure people? Sure, it does even more when someone has a train which I did. And grr plays differently than most of us, not sure if he's a good example, lmao. |
Dec 15, 2016 12:39 PM
#105
Kit said: Hmm thinking about this a little more the second one isn't so much "contradictory" but it rubs me the wrong way because Karote is downplaying the significance of their own vote. discouraging discussion of rvs votes wants rvs trains but says rvs means nothing trains ok by themselves but this is contradictory statements changing the meaning of what phraze said Vadim: Karote (since this is vadim instead of vote, not sure if i need to type "unvote" or "vadim change" or something?) It's a bit contradictory in that Karote says RVS votes can't be judged: why? they have no motive. Does Karote have a motive in their RVS vote? yes: to form a train to get reads. Therefore, RVS votes can be judged because they do have a motive. |
Dec 15, 2016 12:40 PM
#106
I like my current vote, soz. |
Dec 15, 2016 12:42 PM
#107
Gruffin said: Hmm I had really bad starts on my last two games. It kinda depends on my mood I guess. Haha Crossbell weakened me back then so you were saved XDKit said: Heheheh. >:3 I'm surprised you haven't gone after anyone like that after CCL (at least I think you haven't?). You almost broke me down D1 if you would've kept on. xD Thank god for Crossbell.I definitely always get the feeling I'm messing up someone's super secret town plans for catching scum by fishing but so many times that I think that, it turns out they were scum :/ ie the first time I ever suspected someone in a game I was in.. you :D Tbh, I wouldn't mind a Karote train right now. Sounds just as good as a Shinichi train. |
Dec 15, 2016 12:43 PM
#108
Hello friends. Back from an exam, have to do more stuff so can't backread this just yet. vadim: Penta for now, based on experience there's like a 75% chance this vote is correct anyways : P |
Dec 15, 2016 12:47 PM
#109
Dec 15, 2016 12:49 PM
#110
Kit said: Karote said: Seems phraze is saying it's less suspicious if the votes are meant for pressure rather than lynching. Trying to paint phraze in a bad light by changing the meaning?Phraze said: Karote's and Ruu's votes seem to be pressuring activity more than rvs lynching. if they wanted to lynch with their votes, it's suspicious. Sounds like you much more prefer random lynching, am I right? I'm not lynching anybody here, what. Aren't you the one changing Phraze post meaning? |
Dec 15, 2016 12:51 PM
#111
Kit said: discouraging discussion of rvs votes wants rvs trains but says rvs means nothing trains ok by themselves but this is contradictory statements changing the meaning of what phraze said Vadim: Karote (since this is vadim instead of vote, not sure if i need to type "unvote" or "vadim change" or something?) Lol, I'm not discouraging. If you want analyse first post RVS votes then go ahead. xD Trains and single votes are different, pls. I didn't. |
Dec 15, 2016 12:52 PM
#112
Fluff corner: Kit said: I'M CAUGHT. (jk. XD)Gruffin said: Confirmed scum!Edit: Realized this is my 666th post. ←~(o `▽´ )oΨ I think I will have my 1000th post this game :D before mafia I had less than 200 DenjaX said: And by that you mean...?Hmmm.. This game seems to have many exploitable trump cards. xDD logic340 said: Hm. Playstyle or aggressive scum? I'm understanding you and Kit's uneasiness more now.#66 Here I answered something Karote asked of Phraze. Kit picked up on it too in post #91 My question was answered in #74 but does that really answer the question I asked? Also everything else that was said made it all sound negative which I asked about in post #81. Also I am not sure how well Karote and Shinichi know one another but Karote's answers and responses seem rude to me for no apparent reason. "Where do you expect information to come from in the first place, smartass? xD" Is this this trying to evoke a reaction from onlooker, shinichi himself, or just the way they write? I don't expect you to have the answer but these are the questions that came into my mind. If it was me as town would I do it? As mafia what would be the benefit? Etc. I thought you wanted a counter-train in #67? Well, I suppose you are on the Denja train, but I think there are plenty of posts already to start giving non-RVS votes. Why do you still like your RVS vote on Denja? You never gave counter-train suggestions when I asked either. Any reason for that? |
Dec 15, 2016 12:56 PM
#113
Karote said: the only way we should be shooting in the dark after 48 hours if the RVs last for more than half of that time and we do some sort of Prussia vote right before I face chat. That's what happened in the nanatsu no taizai game and I would sure love to keep that from happening again. It took us three days to clean that mess up.logic340 said: Karote said: logic340 said: Karote said: That isn't what I took from what Phraze said at all. What I got from it is that Phraze feels you and Ruu's votes are for pressure to get information rather than an actual lynch target. The second part is saying they feel that it would be suspicious if these votes really were their lynch targets this early in the game.Phraze said: Karote's and Ruu's votes seem to be pressuring activity more than rvs lynching. if they wanted to lynch with their votes, it's suspicious. Sounds like you much more prefer random lynching, am I right? Did you really not understand that or is there something else you are going for with this questioning? To get an actual lynch target, you do need some kind of basis formed around it or it will be just pretty much shot in the dark and the lynch target most likely won't be pressured enough to give anything. I mean, you could choose someone at random and ask them questions but I doubt that will go much anywhere, worth a try though and encourages a player to post. Your posts come across as negative what kind of experiences have you had with Mafia? Yeah, so? I don't know what you're trying to say there, that votes pressure people? Sure, it does even more when someone has a train which I did. And grr plays differently than most of us, not sure if he's a good example, lmao. |
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Dec 15, 2016 12:56 PM
#114
Karote said: Didn't accuse you of lynching. You must realize scum can influence mislynches indirectly just by saying stuff like that.Kit said: Karote said: Phraze said: Karote's and Ruu's votes seem to be pressuring activity more than rvs lynching. if they wanted to lynch with their votes, it's suspicious. Sounds like you much more prefer random lynching, am I right? I'm not lynching anybody here, what. Aren't you the one changing Phraze post meaning? I don't think I misread what phraze said but let me look again.. "Karote's and Ruu's votes seem to be pressuring activity more than rvs lynching. if they wanted to lynch with their votes, it's suspicious." Karote & Ruu votes = pressuring (not lynching). IF they are lynch votes, they are suspicious. |
Dec 15, 2016 12:56 PM
#115
Gruffin said: I thought you wanted a counter-train in #67? Well, I suppose you are on the Denja train, but I think there are plenty of posts already to start giving non-RVS votes. Why do you still like your RVS vote on Denja? You never gave counter-train suggestions when I asked either. Any reason for that? If I joined that train then that wouldn't be counter-train anymore. |
Dec 15, 2016 12:58 PM
#116
Karote said: no I agree with Kit if anything you're the one who changed the meaning of the post and I even said something about it in #66 I believe before Kit even logged on.Kit said: Karote said: Phraze said: Karote's and Ruu's votes seem to be pressuring activity more than rvs lynching. if they wanted to lynch with their votes, it's suspicious. Sounds like you much more prefer random lynching, am I right? I'm not lynching anybody here, what. Aren't you the one changing Phraze post meaning? edit: typo Kit's name |
logic340Dec 15, 2016 1:07 PM
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Dec 15, 2016 12:59 PM
#117
Karote said: If I joined that train then that wouldn't be counter-train anymore. Gruffin said: Why do you still like your RVS vote on Denja? You never gave counter-train suggestions when I asked either. Any reason for that? |
Dec 15, 2016 1:03 PM
#118
Karote said: I'm pretty sure it was Shinichi who suggested you were trying to lynch someone. Why do you defend yourself when Kit (doesn't actually) does it, but not Shinichi?I'm not lynching anybody here, what. |
Dec 15, 2016 1:06 PM
#119
Gruffin said: I think he means there's a lot of unpredictable players? XD idk eitherDenjaX said: And by that you mean...?Hmmm.. This game seems to have many exploitable trump cards. xDD I thought you wanted a counter-train in #67? Well, I suppose you are on the Denja train, but I think there are plenty of posts already to start giving non-RVS votes. Why do you still like your RVS vote on Denja? Kind of feels like to me Karote is luring you into forming a train too so he looks less bad for his own train on Denja. Tho maybe he just really loves trains.You never gave counter-train suggestions when I asked either. Any reason for that? |
Dec 15, 2016 1:08 PM
#120
Kit said: Karote said: Didn't accuse you of lynching. You must realize scum can influence mislynches indirectly just by saying stuff like that.Kit said: Karote said: Seems phraze is saying it's less suspicious if the votes are meant for pressure rather than lynching. Trying to paint phraze in a bad light by changing the meaning?Phraze said: Karote's and Ruu's votes seem to be pressuring activity more than rvs lynching. if they wanted to lynch with their votes, it's suspicious. Sounds like you much more prefer random lynching, am I right? I'm not lynching anybody here, what. Aren't you the one changing Phraze post meaning? I don't think I misread what phraze said but let me look again.. "Karote's and Ruu's votes seem to be pressuring activity more than rvs lynching. if they wanted to lynch with their votes, it's suspicious." Karote & Ruu votes = pressuring (not lynching). IF they are lynch votes, they are suspicious. I didn't get what she meant by ''if they wanted to lynch with their votes'' But ''seem to be pressuring activity rather than RVS lynching'' sounded me that she didn't like the idea of me pressuring and I should have an actual focus on someone. That's why I responded to logic about whole ''lynch target.'' |
Dec 15, 2016 1:12 PM
#121
Karote said: I think she was defending you and Ruu's votes. But I'll have to let Phraze explain it herself.Kit said: Karote said: Kit said: Karote said: Seems phraze is saying it's less suspicious if the votes are meant for pressure rather than lynching. Trying to paint phraze in a bad light by changing the meaning?Phraze said: Karote's and Ruu's votes seem to be pressuring activity more than rvs lynching. if they wanted to lynch with their votes, it's suspicious. Sounds like you much more prefer random lynching, am I right? I'm not lynching anybody here, what. Aren't you the one changing Phraze post meaning? I don't think I misread what phraze said but let me look again.. "Karote's and Ruu's votes seem to be pressuring activity more than rvs lynching. if they wanted to lynch with their votes, it's suspicious." Karote & Ruu votes = pressuring (not lynching). IF they are lynch votes, they are suspicious. I didn't get what she meant by ''if they wanted to lynch with their votes'' But ''seem to be pressuring activity rather than RVS lynching'' sounded me that she didn't like the idea of me pressuring and I should have an actual focus on someone. That's why I responded to logic about whole ''lynch target.'' |
Dec 15, 2016 1:14 PM
#122
Gruffin said: Karote said: If I joined that train then that wouldn't be counter-train anymore. Gruffin said: Why do you still like your RVS vote on Denja? You never gave counter-train suggestions when I asked either. Any reason for that? I just gave you my suggestion to have counter-train cus single train gets dry after a while. I don't want to lead the town cus you have your opinion yourself, so vote who you deem appropriate. |
Dec 15, 2016 1:15 PM
#123
Kit said: I think it may also have something to do with the search parties? Not sure how that would be "exploitable" though.I think he means there's a lot of unpredictable players? XD idk either Kind of feels like to me Karote is luring you into forming a train too so he looks less bad for his own train on Denja. Tho maybe he just really loves trains. Eh, I can see a townie motivation behind wanting to have multiple trains, hence why I agreed to it. I'd rather not make this assumption because thinking this way may cause us to have confirmation bias, though I do think they are acting pretty suspicious right now. Their intentions will become clear soon enough. |
Dec 15, 2016 1:16 PM
#124
Gruffin said: Nope, I am not telling shit until needed to. xDD Only Soviet citizens will know what I mean when the time comes. I can't have the German spies to get info for them to exploit~And by that you mean...? |
Dec 15, 2016 1:18 PM
#125
Gruffin said: Karote said: I'm pretty sure it was Shinichi who suggested you were trying to lynch someone. Why do you defend yourself when Kit (doesn't actually) does it, but not Shinichi?I'm not lynching anybody here, what. Because I know Shinichi, I don't know Kit. |
Dec 15, 2016 1:20 PM
#126
Gruffin said: I think Denja's comment is on the players since there's not much in the way of game mechanics to comment on. Seems Denja would like to keep it a secret tho ^^Kit said: I think it may also have something to do with the search parties? Not sure how that would be "exploitable" though.I think he means there's a lot of unpredictable players? XD idk either Kind of feels like to me Karote is luring you into forming a train too so he looks less bad for his own train on Denja. Tho maybe he just really loves trains. Eh, I can see a townie motivation behind wanting to have multiple trains, hence why I agreed to it. I'd rather not make this assumption because thinking this way may cause us to have confirmation bias, though I do think they are acting pretty suspicious right now. Their intentions will become clear soon enough.And yeah I have def learned that sometimes town act more scummy than scum do so I'm not gonna say for sure that their intentions are scummy |
Dec 15, 2016 1:24 PM
#127
Dec 15, 2016 1:25 PM
#128
Eyyy, my bratan @Astros . Could you answer this for me? 1. Does the mafia know the identity of the town they killed? 2. Does search party also influence on uncovering the identity of the killed town during the night depending on where they last searched? I want to know our exact duties as Soviet citizen so that we can maximize our jobs and report them german spies to Vadim!!! Protect the motherland!!!! URAAAAAA |
Dec 15, 2016 1:27 PM
#129
logic340 said: Gruffin said: #66 Here I answered something Karote asked of Phraze. Kit picked up on it too in post #91 My question was answered in #74 but does that really answer the question I asked? Also everything else that was said made it all sound negative which I asked about in post #81. Also I am not sure how well Karote and Shinichi know one another but Karote's answers and responses seem rude to me for no apparent reason. logic340 said: I'm not sure they don't strike me either way really. Only game I ever played with Shinichi he was scum and was bussed by partner. I don't really get a scum vibe from him. The one who has caught my interested is Karote due to the way they form their questions. I can't get a read on where their motive lies as yet. Edit: Realized this is my 666th post. ←~(o `▽´ )oΨ "Where do you expect information to come from in the first place, smartass? xD" Is this this trying to evoke a reaction from onlooker, shinichi himself, or just the way they write? I don't expect you to have the answer but these are the questions that came into my mind. If it was me as town would I do it? As mafia what would be the benefit? Etc. Sorry, I'm just excited to play the game so I rushed things. :D Don't mind me. But yes, me and Shinichi go way back. |
Dec 15, 2016 1:28 PM
#130
Kit said: Not worried, in fact, if train builds on me, my segregation duties will be easier. xDD Keep them coming.DenjaX What do you think of the train that has formed on you? Seems you haven't had much to say yet besides the trump card thing |
Dec 15, 2016 1:29 PM
#131
Karote said: Thank you for answering my questions.I just gave you my suggestion to have counter-train cus single train gets dry after a while. I don't want to lead the town cus you have your opinion yourself, so vote who you deem appropriate. So you are alright with suggesting that I form a counter train but not suggesting who it is because I have my own opinion? Like why influence town one way but not the other? Okay. This is a contradictory post. Vadim: Karote Karote said: And? Regardless, if someone said I was doing something I wasn't, I'd defend myself because anyone could be mafia. Odd that you were okay with Shinichi saying you did something you supposedly didn't.Because I know Shinichi, I don't know Kit. Though, I'm unsure if this is townie/mafia. :\ I can see town focusing more on people they don't know, but ehhh this is rubbing me the wrong way. @Logic340 @Kit Thoughts on this exchange? I may be starting to tunnel too early, but Karote's not looking good to me. Worse than Shinichi was, anyway. |
Dec 15, 2016 1:33 PM
#132
DenjaX said: Vadim asks why wouldn't they? In response to your first question. To the second, he says search parties only tell you how many rats are left alive.Eyyy, my bratan @Astros . Could you answer this for me? 1. Does the mafia know the identity of the town they killed? 2. Does search party also influence on uncovering the identity of the killed town during the night depending on where they last searched? I want to know our exact duties as Soviet citizen so that we can maximize our jobs and report them german spies to Vadim!!! Protect the motherland!!!! URAAAAAA |
Dec 15, 2016 1:34 PM
#133
@Shinichi-kun What do you think of the way Karote has been playing so far? Is it normal for Karote to give you a pass when you accuse them of something? Edit: Grammar fix |
Dec 15, 2016 1:39 PM
#134
Gruffin said: Hmm personally I would want to respond to accusations from people I know well yeah. Though I'm not sure what other motives it could be besides favoritism as Karote said. Do you think the difference is that either me or Shinichi is scum so Karote is responding a different way to each of us? Or do you think since Karote was accused twice they decided they had to reply now and not ignore it? (I don't recall Shinichi's accusation so idk if it was really comparable mine). Karote said: Thank you for answering my questions.I just gave you my suggestion to have counter-train cus single train gets dry after a while. I don't want to lead the town cus you have your opinion yourself, so vote who you deem appropriate. So you are alright with suggesting that I form a counter train but not suggesting who it is because I have my own opinion? Like why influence town one way but not the other? Okay. This is a contradictory post. Vadim: Karote Karote said: And? Regardless, if someone said I was doing something I wasn't, I'd defend myself because anyone could be mafia. Odd that you were okay with Shinichi saying you did something you supposedly didn't.Because I know Shinichi, I don't know Kit. Though, I'm unsure if this is townie/mafia. :\ I can see town focusing more on people they don't know, but ehhh this is rubbing me the wrong way. @Logic340 @Kit Thoughts on this exchange? I may be starting to tunnel too early, but Karote's not looking good to me. Worse than Shinichi was, anyway. I suppose with Shinichi they tried to brush it off but with me they took it more seriously. THAT could be both town and scum though. |
Dec 15, 2016 1:48 PM
#135
Dec 15, 2016 2:00 PM
#136
Thought you weren't worried about your train, now you're saying there's scum on it? What are your reasons for voting Karote? And what did you mean by "segregation duties"? |
Dec 15, 2016 2:10 PM
#137
Kit said: I had both of those in mind, but I still think it's too early for interaction analysis. I had a couple other theories for why they answered you how they did as well:Hmm personally I would want to respond to accusations from people I know well yeah. Though I'm not sure what other motives it could be besides favoritism as Karote said. Do you think the difference is that either me or Shinichi is scum so Karote is responding a different way to each of us? Or do you think since Karote was accused twice they decided they had to reply now and not ignore it? (I don't recall Shinichi's accusation so idk if it was really comparable mine). I suppose with Shinichi they tried to brush it off but with me they took it more seriously. THAT could be both town and scum though. 1. Didn't see the post 2. It was the vote you had on them that caused them to react. 3. I was already questioning Shinichi, so why ask? But I don't think they are the case judging by Karote's responses. Still need to figure out where Shinichi stands in all of this. Shinichi's post was here and I questioned him over it here, though Karote themself didn't bring it up. Then here is where they defended themselves against you. Shinichi's wasn't a very strong accusation, but you didn't even accuse Karote, so ??? I don't know about how they compare. Town can look pretty scummy at times and contradict themselves, so I don't know their motivation quite yet either. But I still can't ignore how scummy their posts are looking right now. |
Dec 15, 2016 2:12 PM
#138
Kit said: I don't see where DenjaX said there was scum on his train? Why are you accusing him of saying that?Thought you weren't worried about your train, now you're saying there's scum on it? What are your reasons for voting Karote? And what did you mean by "segregation duties"? |
Dec 15, 2016 2:13 PM
#139
Gruffin said: Karote said: Thank you for answering my questions.I just gave you my suggestion to have counter-train cus single train gets dry after a while. I don't want to lead the town cus you have your opinion yourself, so vote who you deem appropriate. So you are alright with suggesting that I form a counter train but not suggesting who it is because I have my own opinion? Like why influence town one way but not the other? Okay. This is a contradictory post. Vadim: Karote Karote said: And? Regardless, if someone said I was doing something I wasn't, I'd defend myself because anyone could be mafia. Odd that you were okay with Shinichi saying you did something you supposedly didn't.Because I know Shinichi, I don't know Kit. Though, I'm unsure if this is townie/mafia. :\ I can see town focusing more on people they don't know, but ehhh this is rubbing me the wrong way. @Logic340 @Kit Thoughts on this exchange? I may be starting to tunnel too early, but Karote's not looking good to me. Worse than Shinichi was, anyway. Because I wanted to see who you vote for and form some sort of read of you. I didn't take Shinichi accusation seriously, whereas I did with Kit. |
Dec 15, 2016 2:15 PM
#140
Karote said: Okay, fair enough to both statements.Because I wanted to see who you vote for and form some sort of read of you. I didn't take Shinichi accusation seriously, whereas I did with Kit. What do you think of Denja's vote on you? Or everyone's vote on you for that matter? |
Dec 15, 2016 2:19 PM
#141
Gruffin said: Ah, I see. Shinichi is saying to Phraze that Karote's vote isn't pressuring much (as Phraze had said) since Denja wasn't online, and wording it like Karote is trying to lynch Denja. hmm. Maybe because it was directed at Phraze, and mine had quoted Karote. I hadn't read much into the lack of reply to Shinichi, myself, but I'm wondering why Karote isn't pressuring Denja in any way besides with his vote because it doesn't seem to affect DenjaKit said: I had both of those in mind, but I still think it's too early for interaction analysis. I had a couple other theories for why they answered you how they did as well:Hmm personally I would want to respond to accusations from people I know well yeah. Though I'm not sure what other motives it could be besides favoritism as Karote said. Do you think the difference is that either me or Shinichi is scum so Karote is responding a different way to each of us? Or do you think since Karote was accused twice they decided they had to reply now and not ignore it? (I don't recall Shinichi's accusation so idk if it was really comparable mine). I suppose with Shinichi they tried to brush it off but with me they took it more seriously. THAT could be both town and scum though. 1. Didn't see the post 2. It was the vote you had on them that caused them to react. 3. I was already questioning Shinichi, so why ask? But I don't think they are the case judging by Karote's responses. Still need to figure out where Shinichi stands in all of this. Shinichi's post was here and I questioned him over it here, though Karote themself didn't bring it up. Then here is where they defended themselves against you. Shinichi's wasn't a very strong accusation, but you didn't even accuse Karote, so ??? I don't know about how they compare. Town can look pretty scummy at times and contradict themselves, so I don't know their motivation quite yet either. But I still can't ignore how scummy their posts are looking right now. |
Dec 15, 2016 2:20 PM
#142
Gruffin said: Implied when saying "Let's get Karote" since I read that as "Let's lynch" but perhaps Denja just meant let's get him as in pressure him, so maybe I'm wrongKit said: I don't see where DenjaX said there was scum on his train? Why are you accusing him of saying that?Thought you weren't worried about your train, now you're saying there's scum on it? What are your reasons for voting Karote? And what did you mean by "segregation duties"? |
Dec 15, 2016 2:26 PM
#143
Kit said: Denja doesn't strike me as the type of player to react under any type of pressure, kind of like Grrr and Rinto. Not pressuring could be a playstyle choice as well. I hadn't read much into the lack of reply to Shinichi, myself, but I'm wondering why Karote isn't pressuring Denja in any way besides with his vote because it doesn't seem to affect Denja Kit said: I wasn't asking about how you read Denja's vote on Karote, but why you thought that Denja suspected people on his own train. There is nothing in his posts to support that statement, implied or no.Implied when saying "Let's get Karote" since I read that as "Let's lynch" but perhaps Denja just meant let's get him as in pressure him, so maybe I'm wrong Edit: Oh, wait wait. I forgot that Karote is on Denja's train. -facepalm- Ignore me. |
Dec 15, 2016 2:30 PM
#144
Vote count. Karote (3) - Kit, Griffin, DenjaX DenjaX (3) - Phraze, Karote, Ruu Chione (1) - Shinichi PentaFlare (2) - Rinto-kun, Togs Gruffin (1) - -shad- -shad - (1) - callmeLuna Kit (1) - Chione Shinichi (1) - Logic Vote history. Gruffin > Logic340 > Shinichi > Karote > DenjaX > Chione > Karote > logic340 > callmeLuna > Shinichi > Togs > PentaFlare > Rinto-kun > PentaFlare > Ruu > DenjaX > Phraze > DenjaX > Tingle > KOtA > Chione > Kit > Karote > DenjaX > Shinichi-Kun > Chione > PentaFlare > Kit > Logic > Karote > -shad- > Griffin > callmeluna > -shad- > |
Dec 15, 2016 2:32 PM
#145
Dec 15, 2016 2:33 PM
#146
ty |
Dec 15, 2016 2:34 PM
#147
Thanks for the VC, lol. I should probably keep track of the votes in notepad to avoid confusion. |
Dec 15, 2016 2:42 PM
#148
Gruffin said: Karote said: Okay, fair enough to both statements.Because I wanted to see who you vote for and form some sort of read of you. I didn't take Shinichi accusation seriously, whereas I did with Kit. What do you think of Denja's vote on you? Or everyone's vote on you for that matter? Seems weird for a pressure vote since I answer everyone who accuses me being scum and doesn't ask anything. I guess Denja is set on lynching me for whatever reason or looking for reactions, altough I believe I have posted fair bit and there are others who haven't been in the spotlight yet. Weird vote but I dunno what's the motive behind it, lol. |
Dec 15, 2016 2:51 PM
#149
Karote said: I agree that it's odd, but it could go either way. Now that Denja has said he isn't worried about the train on him, what are you going to do with your vote?Seems weird for a pressure vote since I answer everyone who accuses me being scum and doesn't ask anything. I guess Denja is set on lynching me for whatever reason or looking for reactions, altough I believe I have posted fair bit and there are others who haven't been in the spotlight yet. Weird vote but I dunno what's the motive behind it, lol. |
Dec 15, 2016 3:05 PM
#150
Karote said: It's all good I am just trying to learn you as this is our first time playing together I know Gruffin and Kit from other games and played one game with Shinichi. logic340 said: Gruffin said: logic340 said: Could you point out the posts that caught your interest and explain?I'm not sure they don't strike me either way really. Only game I ever played with Shinichi he was scum and was bussed by partner. I don't really get a scum vibe from him. The one who has caught my interested is Karote due to the way they form their questions. I can't get a read on where their motive lies as yet. Edit: Realized this is my 666th post. ←~(o `▽´ )oΨ "Where do you expect information to come from in the first place, smartass? xD" Is this this trying to evoke a reaction from onlooker, shinichi himself, or just the way they write? I don't expect you to have the answer but these are the questions that came into my mind. If it was me as town would I do it? As mafia what would be the benefit? Etc. Sorry, I'm just excited to play the game so I rushed things. :D Don't mind me. But yes, me and Shinichi go way back. Gruffin said: I definitely find something interesting about Karote's posts but I still can't say that they are from a scum playing town mindset though I am having a harder time seeing the town mindset behind it. I tend to agree with what you said about defending yourself against untrue/unfavorable commentary. I'm not ready to say they are scum but I will be keeping an eye on the situation. Karote said: Thank you for answering my questions.I just gave you my suggestion to have counter-train cus single train gets dry after a while. I don't want to lead the town cus you have your opinion yourself, so vote who you deem appropriate. So you are alright with suggesting that I form a counter train but not suggesting who it is because I have my own opinion? Like why influence town one way but not the other? Okay. This is a contradictory post. Vadim: Karote Karote said: And? Regardless, if someone said I was doing something I wasn't, I'd defend myself because anyone could be mafia. Odd that you were okay with Shinichi saying you did something you supposedly didn't.Because I know Shinichi, I don't know Kit. Though, I'm unsure if this is townie/mafia. :\ I can see town focusing more on people they don't know, but ehhh this is rubbing me the wrong way. @Logic340 @Kit Thoughts on this exchange? I may be starting to tunnel too early, but Karote's not looking good to me. Worse than Shinichi was, anyway. my vote on Shinichi isn't doing much now so....Vadim: Unvote while I think about things. |
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