KOtA said: i can give my opinion on kota , he's a nice guy also @Karote , its o not 0 , your vote will not count (game host please make this happen :P) ========================================== but for real coromandel said: I want everyone to answer and tell me your opinion: 1] zombiewolf's sickness: was it suzune, or someone else? what kind of effect does it have on zombie? 2] night 3: why was there only 1 nightkill? most likely scenario? 3] your opinion on lupadim, gwendolly, kOtA, suzune, grrr, sightless, lord_sithis, lamby? 1] it could be someone else , its say's while he was heading back , so it doesn't says it surly was suzune (that's what i think) 2]someone was protected/ a target had some kind of night kill immune / SK or mafia skipped on their kill 3] lupadim : claims he has an LP that will harm the mafia so they can target him , i'd say he has some kind of ability that'll help him in that . gwen: since she was a target under attack she's been on defiance since then . kota: It's a me suzune: claimed and already claimed role ..... grrr: everyone suspect him , yet no one has questioned him (like why ??!!?). sightless : targets lupadim , ignoring the whole votes that happened and what the other's trying to do to pressure someone. lord_sithis: ~~~~ lamby: low key claimed that he can watch others at night , but zombieWolf was the one watching people at night lol... " low key" Last I recall I made the effort to check if it was even a role that wasn't personally designed by the host as I hadn't run into it before, in-game or on that site. ^Also linked it, as I assumed it might have also been a new variant to players other than myself. Also might want to refer to Motion Detector and Tracker and such. |
_Claire_ said: @Lamby I dont remember you saying that Suzune definitely killed somebody but what is the odd that Holocaster illusionist (his ability works by redirect A to B right?) and he was targeting Suzune with someone else? Doesn't it mean any ability goes from A to B? Not sure on what the exact odd would be, nor is that important but yes, it is of-course a possible chain of interactions. Gimmie a few min to go dig up a quote/post that should be relevant once we get flips or more info and such. |
Gwendolly said: Haha, sorry but its true. Except for buying that glass-thingy, checking on lupa and he seemingly bought nothing. Doesnt prove town for me yet. feelsbadman It wasn't supposed to confirm him anyways, just more points to prove why lupa might be town. Gwendolly said: Karote said: I made a new train to squeeze every information I can. It's kind of stupid, for everyone to vote Suzune and sit on that one-sided train doing nothing. I actually agree with that. Both seem scummy and kota hasnt said anything yet, so I will see where this will lead. Vote change: Kota lol? |
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Lamby said: _Claire_ said: @Lamby I dont remember you saying that Suzune definitely killed somebody but what is the odd that Holocaster illusionist (his ability works by redirect A to B right?) and he was targeting Suzune with someone else? Doesn't it mean any ability goes from A to B? Not sure on what the exact odd would be, nor is that important but yes, it is of-course a possible chain of interactions. Gimmie a few min to go dig up a quote/post that should be relevant once we get flips or more info and such. Edit: If that was the case, this should narrow things down to a couple names. You should remember this: |
KOtA said: also @Karote , its o not 0 , your vote will not count (game host please make this happen :P) It was counted. |
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Lamby said: Lamby said: Not sure on what the exact odd would be, nor is that important but yes, it is of-course a possible chain of interactions. Gimmie a few min to go dig up a quote/post that should be relevant once we get flips or more info and such. Edit: If that was the case, this should narrow things down to a couple names. You should remember this: Noted. It is hard to believe if coro is actually the.. person tho, But after my last bastard game... I wonder how much of a bastard this game will be. |
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_Claire_ said: coromandel said: I want everyone to answer and tell me your opinion: 1] zombiewolf's sickness: was it suzune, or someone else? what kind of effect does it have on zombie? 2] night 3: why was there only 1 nightkill? most likely scenario? 3] your opinion on lupadim, gwendolly, kOtA, suzune, grrr, sightless, lord_sithis, lamby? @theConquerer @Lupadim @_Claire_ @Tingle @Lamby @Gwendolly @Lord_Sithis @grrr @SightlessReality @Karote @Suzune-chan @Togs @ZombieWolf2508 @KOtA 1. No idea, but I will say it isn't Suzune. Probably someone poisons Zombie as he is a watcher. 2. Kota probably is scum, but I would like to hear more from him before making a decision. Roleblocking scum and no night kill isn't rare. 3. I would say all mafias are in those, I am slightly town-reading Lamby. Grrr/sightless/lord sithis/kota have the highest chance of being scums. I am being doubtful of Lupadim somehow, @lupadim what is your passive's name, please? Gwendolly.. Heh... I don't know, I get this fake scumhunting vibe from her, but oh well. I would throw her into the mafia list of grr/sight/sithis/kota. Suzune.. I am considering her Limit Break, which if true is powerful. Also, Togs's claim is shady. His character is as not famous as Suzune's roleclaim, probably even less as Togs' character is non-playable in entire FFIV (from google), and I doubt his credibility now even though lupadim supports him. I was thinking they could be in cahoot to frame Suzune but.. it would be a stupid move. Arghh :/ @bold: Once again.... Tracker*? |
Lamby said: _Claire_ said: 1. No idea, but I will say it isn't Suzune. Probably someone poisons Zombie as he is a watcher. 2. Kota probably is scum, but I would like to hear more from him before making a decision. Roleblocking scum and no night kill isn't rare. 3. I would say all mafias are in those, I am slightly town-reading Lamby. Grrr/sightless/lord sithis/kota have the highest chance of being scums. I am being doubtful of Lupadim somehow, @lupadim what is your passive's name, please? Gwendolly.. Heh... I don't know, I get this fake scumhunting vibe from her, but oh well. I would throw her into the mafia list of grr/sight/sithis/kota. Suzune.. I am considering her Limit Break, which if true is powerful. Also, Togs's claim is shady. His character is as not famous as Suzune's roleclaim, probably even less as Togs' character is non-playable in entire FFIV (from google), and I doubt his credibility now even though lupadim supports him. I was thinking they could be in cahoot to frame Suzune but.. it would be a stupid move. Arghh :/ @bold: Once again.... Tracker*? Oh ya tracker, sorry for the confusion :/ |
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| @_Claire_ Sorry if it's a bit much to ask, but ehhhhh getting a bit of a headache having read and posted shit for closing in on a couple hours straight now... and I've kind of forgotten a bunch of the shit I was looking up on the wiki. Edit: Koz yeah.... you seem to be one of the more "in the know" concerning the FF franchise. Tbh the only thing I played for more than an hr or so was FFX, koz my mate forced me to when I was bagging on FF back in school. Any chance you could make a list of claims containing: Claims and flips. Character/abilities. Which game they made their initial appearance and whether or not they were playable. ^and if not, were they antagonists/bad guys (if you wanna call it that) Possibly just whether each character flavour were good/bad guys in general. Also add any notes on whether or not character/ability connections make little to no sense, or anything else you consider note worthy. |
LambtronOct 1, 2016 2:45 AM
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Lamby said: @_Claire_ Sorry if it's a bit much to ask, but ehhhhh getting a bit of a headache having read and posted shit for closing in on a couple hours straight now... and I've kind of forgotten a bunch of the shit I was looking up on the wiki. Edit: Koz yeah.... you seem to be one of the more "in the know" concerning the FF franchise. Tbh the only thing I played for more than an hr or so was FFX, koz my mate forced me to when I was bagging on FF back in school. Any chance you could make a list of claims containing: Claims and flips. Character/abilities. Which game they made their initial appearance and whether or not they were playable. ^and if not, were they antagonists/bad guys (if you wanna call it that) Possibly just whether each character flavour were good/bad guys in general. Also add any notes on whether or not character/ability connections make little to no sense, or anything else you consider note worthy. I dont think I could do it atm, tomorrow I have got a wedding that last a single day and I gotta do my school work so I dont think I can make a list now. But I think.. Coro -- odd night miller. Cant remember who she claims, or did she? lupadim -- Cheater BUT the passive ability is knowing people's role (this was your role right? Was it named cheater, might be important because Shad uses Illusionist) and Limit break is sorta a vig kind. Claimed Yuna under no pressure whatsoever, one of main char in FFX. Honestly would expect Tidus, because Lightning/Celes/Terra/cant remember others are the true main character. Mean some point of the game/beginning theyre the first char you have. Lightning in FF13. Terra in FF6 and Celes too, but listen, in middle of game, Celes becomes the main character. I cant say further without spoiling the game but if you wanna go check it. The one from FFIv who is dead cant remember his name, I think he is main character too. Togs - 2 shot leaver. Used one last night (3). Limit break also a sorta vig. Presses saying "can kill something" but makes it sounds it could go through or not go through :s (the limit break cooncidence with lupadim.. *cough*). Golbez, nonplayable in ff4, playable in after years, doesnt seem like a bad guy idk, I dont play the game but definitely not someone important in ff12 Suzune - Larsa Child Emperor. even night leaver. Limit break: prevent mafia night kill. FF 12 side character, not important character. And no they are all not bad people at all. Suzune and Togs claim make no sense. Lupadim and Togs are way too similar in the way wording, and when I asked about their limit break both of them say its actually a different kind of vig shot so they cant be the same or something. Sorry this is from phone and written on top of my head, Please edit if someone finds more. |
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| Ohh.......... Golbez is one of the antagonists in FF IV....... In Dissidia he is the antagonist against Cecil Harvey of FFIV. Like how Sephiroth against Cloud Ultimecia against Squall etcetc. Golbez was the antagonist... *baffled* Help, now Togs claim makes Suzune's claim pure as hell @Togs did you not google enough before fake-roleclaiming? :D |
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_Claire_ said: Ohh.......... Golbez is one of the antagonists in FF IV....... In Dissidia he is the antagonist against Cecil Harvey of FFIV. Like how Sephiroth against Cloud Ultimecia against Squall etcetc. Golbez was the antagonist... *baffled* Help, now Togs claim makes Suzune's claim pure as hell @Togs did you not google enough before fake-roleclaiming? :D This was more my main concern regarding the claim and the reason I wanted someone to do a thorough claim list with initial appearances etc Checking for any character claims that over-lap with another from the same game. Edit: Due to the fact I think.... I had yet to see any of this and so far my own character also sticks to that. (Not 100% sure though, I have trouble remembering events that I had to catch up on rather than being there for them) Especially if one is an antagonist to the main protagonist of that game. Seeing as we already have this confirmed corpse/role/character/game: Cecil Harvey flip Edit: Also making note of this Mafia flip: Cloud of darkness |
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Lamby said: _Claire_ said: Ohh.......... Golbez is one of the antagonists in FF IV....... In Dissidia he is the antagonist against Cecil Harvey of FFIV. Like how Sephiroth against Cloud Ultimecia against Squall etcetc. Golbez was the antagonist... *baffled* Help, now Togs claim makes Suzune's claim pure as hell @Togs did you not google enough before fake-roleclaiming? :D This was more my main concern regarding the claim and the reason I wanted someone to do a thorough claim list with initial appearances etc Checking for any character claims that over-lap with another from the same game. Especially if one is an antagonist to the main protagonist of that game. Seeing as we already have this confirmed corpse/role/character/game: Cecil Harvey flip Looking at the flips, I highly doubt this Golbez is town. At all. All the Known flips are main characters so far, there is no reason to believe Golbez at all. I think this is a mafia claim but why :s |
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Lamby said: _Claire_ said: Ohh.......... Golbez is one of the antagonists in FF IV....... In Dissidia he is the antagonist against Cecil Harvey of FFIV. Like how Sephiroth against Cloud Ultimecia against Squall etcetc. Golbez was the antagonist... *baffled* Help, now Togs claim makes Suzune's claim pure as hell @Togs did you not google enough before fake-roleclaiming? :D This was more my main concern regarding the claim and the reason I wanted someone to do a thorough claim list with initial appearances etc Checking for any character claims that over-lap with another from the same game. Edit: Due to the fact I think.... I had yet to see any of this and so far my own character also sticks to that. (Not 100% sure though, I have trouble remembering events that I had to catch up on rather than being there for them) Especially if one is an antagonist to the main protagonist of that game. Seeing as we already have this confirmed corpse/role/character/game: Cecil Harvey flip Edit: Also making note of this Mafia flip: Cloud of darkness Yes its possible to have two characters in same FF. Terra and Celes are both ff6, btw |
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_Claire_ said: Lamby said: This was more my main concern regarding the claim and the reason I wanted someone to do a thorough claim list with initial appearances etc Checking for any character claims that over-lap with another from the same game. Edit: Due to the fact I think.... I had yet to see any of this and so far my own character also sticks to that. (Not 100% sure though, I have trouble remembering events that I had to catch up on rather than being there for them) Especially if one is an antagonist to the main protagonist of that game. Seeing as we already have this confirmed corpse/role/character/game: Cecil Harvey flip Edit: Also making note of this Mafia flip: Cloud of darkness Yes its possible to have two characters in same FF. Terra and Celes are both ff6, btw Ah lol, was bound to have missed something.... I worked backwards looking for characters specifically from IV after seeing the Golbez claim as a priority. So I guess I can at-least strike that out. |
Togs said: Yesssss I wasn't able to check this earlier since I have a class at 12 but leading a train on scum feels real good : D I'll go through Holo's post history for unalignments and interactions when I get home. Did this ever end up happening to a solid extent? |
| How this was approached does worry me and have me second guessing though. Ahead of time as appropriate, though my claim being ahead of this makes me a tad wary. It also matches the claimed role well enough in the sense of raising the chances of tanking a bullet if Suzu was scum, as far as town-aligned intentions are concerned. Togs said: Very interesting claim. There's a a reason that I don't believe it which I will explain later. I think Suzune is probably actually a serial killer, maybe with some protective properties. That would explain why Lamby saw her using a kill, and why she was on the "all-town" Reiynii wagon. (To be clear my reasoning for those players being town was that the scum were targeting them with kills, yet they ofc would not know that Suzune is a neutral) This however smells of a pointless offer as it was nearly certain this wouldn't happen. Togs said: Suzune if you shoot Sightless toNight I promise I won't push you tomorrow 8 ) |
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Lamby said: Sightless, falls into a similar position to GRRR!! though for slightly different reasons. Oooh oooh, what are those slightly different reasons? I wanna know. :3 |
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coromandel said: I want everyone to answer and tell me your opinion: 1] zombiewolf's sickness: was it suzune, or someone else? what kind of effect does it have on zombie? 2] night 3: why was there only 1 nightkill? most likely scenario? 3] your opinion on lupadim, gwendolly, kOtA, suzune, grrr, sightless, lord_sithis, lamby? @theConquerer @Lupadim @_Claire_ @Tingle @Lamby @Gwendolly @Lord_Sithis @grrr @SightlessReality @Karote @Suzune-chan @Togs @ZombieWolf2508 @KOtA 1. I'll have to read back on this. I mostly focas on my own interactions as my general rule of thumb. But if it's ability related then I should definitely look into it. 2. Well that could be for many reasons, A SK might have stopped killing to throw people off, a Vig might be out of shots or holding on to one for later, someone was protected, ect 3. Lupadim: Scum, the previous night badgered people to claim or have them get shot. And when the person who didn't claim(me) and basically told them to f off. Wouldn't you know that person is still alive right now. Gwendolly: Again I only really focus on those who focus on me. So I don't have a read on them. kOta: Same as^ Suzune: Not really a read so much as POE, Since I believe there was scum on the first train they have to die. As for why I'm not voting for them, I made a commitment the previous night that if I lived I'd make Lupadim my 1# priority. Grr: My feelings on them is pretty much the same as Denja, they both lie constantly. Sightless: Oh look at how cute I am. Arn't I just the cutest? <3 The other 2 fall in the same category as Gwendolly. |
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coromandel said: Gwendolly said: Lupa seems town right now, because he basically invited mafia to kill him last night and mentioned about a passive he couldnt reveal yet, so maybe his role is accurate after all he didnt answer my question to that, so maybe its still not to reveal). But still didnt answer my question about how much xp he earned for the first quest. But why did Lupadim claim at all? Isn't that a bit weird too? Well, I think its weird too especially for the character Yuna, but nobody seemed to counterclaim Yuna. He keeps saying that mafia will regret not killing him, while not revealing his passive. Either he's really confident in not being killed or he's just procrastinating. @Lupadim Which version of Yuna are you? FFX or FFX2? Why am I asking? I think that is also a crucial point to know and I have a feeling that shad considers this fact, because he mentioned it during the quest that it doesnt matter which Yuna we post. Plus those two Yunas are two different worlds :P |
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lupadim said: Do NOT lynch Togs, the ability he claimed is one of the abilities that was revealed to me. The only possibilities he is still mafia are: a) If it is the mafia that has a two-shot untargetable gig And that's it really. I know the person with that ability is still alive since it was revealed to me fresh this day phase, he couldn't possibly kill the person with that ability, hide their role and then claim. That could have happened for the two last abilities I hinted on earlier though so beware. As for whoever asked for the name of my passive: "Abilities - The Hymn of the Faith: [passive] every night phase, a PM from the host about a player's ability will be revealed to you" Then let me ask you this: 1. Why are you so sure that Togs is the town? The way it words it, it means you get every single player's role, town or non-town right? 2. What do you think of Togs claiming FF IV Antagonist, and so far we have no antagonist flips? Despite this, do you still believe that Togs is town? |
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Gwendolly said: I've absolutely no idea, but my role is "Cheater", maybe that answers it.Well, I think its weird too especially for the character Yuna, but nobody seemed to counterclaim Yuna. He keeps saying that mafia will regret not killing him, while not revealing his passive. Either he's really confident in not being killed or he's just procrastinating. @Lupadim Which version of Yuna are you? FFX or FFX2? Why am I asking? I think that is also a crucial point to know and I have a feeling that shad considers this fact, because he mentioned it during the quest that it doesnt matter which Yuna we post. Plus those two Yunas are two different worlds :P |
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_Claire_ said: From the way it is worded, yes, I should be able to get everyone's role. I simply think Mafia wouldn't have this kind of ability, I'd expect them to have something that allows them to kill, hide bodies, etc. Besides, he revealed his role immediately after I revealed that ability.1. Why are you so sure that Togs is the town? The way it words it, it means you get every single player's role, town or non-town right? 2. What do you think of Togs claiming FF IV Antagonist, and so far we have no antagonist flips? Despite this, do you still believe that Togs is town? 2. Wait, that's an antagonist? That changes everything. |
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lupadim said: _Claire_ said: From the way it is worded, yes, I should be able to get everyone's role. I simply think Mafia wouldn't have this kind of ability, I'd expect them to have something that allows them to kill, hide bodies, etc. Besides, he revealed his role immediately after I revealed that ability.1. Why are you so sure that Togs is the town? The way it words it, it means you get every single player's role, town or non-town right? 2. What do you think of Togs claiming FF IV Antagonist, and so far we have no antagonist flips? Despite this, do you still believe that Togs is town? 2. Wait, that's an antagonist? That changes everything. I am so sad to tell you I have seen mafia that has Hider's role :s And yes, Golbez is an antagonist. |
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Togs said: I mean Holo wasn't an antagonist and she was scum. Let's not flavorgame the player who started a wagon on scum and pushed it two separate days lol @Lamby I want to be completely, absolutely sure. Did you or did you not see Suzune use a killing action. Oh hi, antagonist. How do you do? You claimed Golbez, didnt you? I need an explanation, or my brain fails me that it thinks you claim Golbez? |
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coromandel said: I want everyone to answer and tell me your opinion: 1] zombiewolf's sickness: was it suzune, or someone else? what kind of effect does it have on zombie? 2] night 3: why was there only 1 nightkill? most likely scenario? 3] your opinion on lupadim, gwendolly, kOtA, suzune, grrr, sightless, lord_sithis, lamby? @theConquerer @Lupadim @_Claire_ @Tingle @Lamby @Gwendolly @Lord_Sithis @grrr @SightlessReality @Karote @Suzune-chan @Togs @ZombieWolf2508 @KOtA 1] I dont even know why people even started believing him, that he got sick. We'll just have to see what happens next phase. Someone mentioned poison earlier, was it Grr? Can't remember. So they want us to believe its poison. 2]Someone was healed/protected according to Clare. Only scum would know who to protect or heal. Kota was roleblocked. But you dont know if it suceeded? Maybe he didnt do anything after all. And it was someone elses doing. 3] Lupadim: Look at previous post, Kota: I want to see more from him, Suzune: I'm afraid she's town, but her role like someone else said doesnt really help for town, plus commuter is mostly the easiest role to claim for scum (yes, I did my research :P) So it could be togs lying too, but he already earned my trust and I will wait what he has to say too. Grr: I'll keep an eye on him! When I was being cornered, he was convinced I was innocent and didnt want to see me get lynched. Am I a prey for next time? Sightless: Neutral for now, either he is a very lazy (not caring) town or well-informed scum, just watching us attack each other. Sithis: We seem to have the same mindset, will keep an eye on that too, but neutral for now too. Lamby: Seems neutral too, but literally neutral, he even said himself he's an outsider? Some outsider with analyzing skills and a role he himself never heared of. |
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Togs said: I mean Holo wasn't an antagonist and she was scum. Let's not flavorgame the player who started a wagon on scum and pushed it two separate days lol @Lamby I want to be completely, absolutely sure. Did you or did you not see Suzune use a killing action. Oh eh I forget to tell you, Cloud of Darkness is FF III antagonist. --- case closed ---- |
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_Claire_ said: Togs said: I mean Holo wasn't an antagonist and she was scum. Let's not flavorgame the player who started a wagon on scum and pushed it two separate days lol @Lamby I want to be completely, absolutely sure. Did you or did you not see Suzune use a killing action. Oh hi, antagonist. How do you do? You claimed Golbez, didnt you? I need an explanation, or my brain fails me that it thinks you claim Golbez? Dunno if you're aware of this but hosts don't have to choose good guys for the town and bad guys for the Mafia. In fact this is BAD game design because it would be obvious who the Mafia is. Do you really think Alice and Jack would let this game go through like that ? Just look at the Danganronpa game there were heroes and villains in both sides. Idk if you've flavorgamed much in your games, but I'll just let you know now as someone who's fallen into that trap before that's it's a very unreliable tactic. |
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lupadim said: Gwendolly said: I've absolutely no idea, but my role is "Cheater", maybe that answers it.Well, I think its weird too especially for the character Yuna, but nobody seemed to counterclaim Yuna. He keeps saying that mafia will regret not killing him, while not revealing his passive. Either he's really confident in not being killed or he's just procrastinating. @Lupadim Which version of Yuna are you? FFX or FFX2? Why am I asking? I think that is also a crucial point to know and I have a feeling that shad considers this fact, because he mentioned it during the quest that it doesnt matter which Yuna we post. Plus those two Yunas are two different worlds :P |
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Togs said: _Claire_ said: Oh hi, antagonist. How do you do? You claimed Golbez, didnt you? I need an explanation, or my brain fails me that it thinks you claim Golbez? Dunno if you're aware of this but hosts don't have to choose good guys for the town and bad guys for the Mafia. In fact this is BAD game design because it would be obvious who the Mafia is. Do you really think Alice and Jack would let this game go through like that ? Just look at the Danganronpa game there were heroes and villains in both sides. Idk if you've flavorgamed much in your games, but I'll just let you know now as someone who's fallen into that trap before that's it's a very unreliable tactic. Heh, okay. I completely trust you buddies. You need to know the host is Shad :) Jack is game manager and he looks for the game, not the flavours. Knowing Shad, haha he will do it protagonists vs antagonists. But oh well, lets trust you, buddy. |
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_Claire_ said: Togs said: Dunno if you're aware of this but hosts don't have to choose good guys for the town and bad guys for the Mafia. In fact this is BAD game design because it would be obvious who the Mafia is. Do you really think Alice and Jack would let this game go through like that ? Just look at the Danganronpa game there were heroes and villains in both sides. Idk if you've flavorgamed much in your games, but I'll just let you know now as someone who's fallen into that trap before that's it's a very unreliable tactic. Heh, okay. I completely trust you buddies. You need to know the host is Shad :) Jack is game manager and he looks for the game, not the flavours. Knowing Shad, haha he will do it protagonists vs antagonists. But oh well, lets trust you, buddy. Shad told me its his game and his game mechanics. And I think its also his first hosting one? |
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Togs said: _Claire_ said: Oh hi, antagonist. How do you do? You claimed Golbez, didnt you? I need an explanation, or my brain fails me that it thinks you claim Golbez? Dunno if you're aware of this but hosts don't have to choose good guys for the town and bad guys for the Mafia. In fact this is BAD game design because it would be obvious who the Mafia is. Do you really think Alice and Jack would let this game go through like that ? Just look at the Danganronpa game there were heroes and villains in both sides. Idk if you've flavorgamed much in your games, but I'll just let you know now as someone who's fallen into that trap before that's it's a very unreliable tactic. Also. I am seriously offended with the comment that its a bad game design if its obvious who is protagonist and antagonist is. Harry Potter games use who is antagonist and protagonist clearly, and it was a great game. We don't even use flavour name much, and we got the scums. I find it an insult to hosts out there that make protagonists vs antagonist in their theme game, and you need to say its a BAD game. Oh please. It is NOT a BAD game. Pretty sure HP's coromandel is not the only game that uses protagonist vs antagonist.Who are you to say its a bad design? -_- |
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Gwendolly said: _Claire_ said: Heh, okay. I completely trust you buddies. You need to know the host is Shad :) Jack is game manager and he looks for the game, not the flavours. Knowing Shad, haha he will do it protagonists vs antagonists. But oh well, lets trust you, buddy. Shad told me its his game and his game mechanics. And I think its also his first hosting one? Second, he co-hosted with Coromandel in Gun girl's mafia I think? In the 1st game, he didn't use any real name. The names were all random, so we had no way to identify who is good or bad guys in the game. It was pirate theme. |
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_Claire_ said: Gwendolly said: Shad told me its his game and his game mechanics. And I think its also his first hosting one? Second, he co-hosted with Coromandel in Gun girl's mafia I think? In the 1st game, he didn't use any real name. The names were all random, so we had no way to identify who is good or bad guys in the game. It was pirate theme. Well then first as a full-time host :P Are there any differences? Because I thought the hosts are the mindmasters of the game and the co-hosts are just helpers but didnt contribute really to game mechanics. |
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Gwendolly said: _Claire_ said: Second, he co-hosted with Coromandel in Gun girl's mafia I think? In the 1st game, he didn't use any real name. The names were all random, so we had no way to identify who is good or bad guys in the game. It was pirate theme. Well then first as a full-time host :P Are there any differences? Because I thought the hosts are the mindmaster and the co-hosts are just helpers but didnt contribute to game mechanics. No, if counting with cohost its 3 games then. It is my personal opinion as a FF player (not an avid one but) if I were a host I would want antagonist vs protagonist. Who would want to have Sephiroth/Kuja/Ultimecia/Kefka as town .___. it ruins my imagination nonoh please. So I am sure that its antagonist vs protagonist's game (not to mention, look at the dead bodies and their names. It has not disproven my thinking) |
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_Claire_ said: Togs said: Dunno if you're aware of this but hosts don't have to choose good guys for the town and bad guys for the Mafia. In fact this is BAD game design because it would be obvious who the Mafia is. Do you really think Alice and Jack would let this game go through like that ? Just look at the Danganronpa game there were heroes and villains in both sides. Idk if you've flavorgamed much in your games, but I'll just let you know now as someone who's fallen into that trap before that's it's a very unreliable tactic. Also. I am seriously offended with the comment that its a bad game design if its obvious who is protagonist and antagonist is. Harry Potter games use who is antagonist and protagonist clearly, and it was a great game. We don't even use flavour name much, and we got the scums. I find it an insult to hosts out there that make protagonists vs antagonist in their theme game, and you need to say its a BAD game. Oh please. It is NOT a BAD game. Pretty sure HP's coromandel is not the only game that uses protagonist vs antagonist.Who are you to say its a bad design? -_- I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend, but I've reviewed games before and had my games reviewed before and in every time I did the question popped up "can the scum team be blown out by flavor ?" It's one the basic checks to go through in game review. And honestly, relying on flavorgaming is depending on the mod or the reviewers to make a mistake in that check. Just like mass claiming Day 1 is bad because it's like you don't trust the host to put in measures against that, flavorgaming is exactly the same way. If I was a host and my players played primarily off of that I would honestly be pretty miffed. Not to say every game deals with it the same way. For example, you could have all villains on the scumteam and just provide them with fake flavorclaims (This is what we did in Jojo Mafia). I assume this is what Coro did in the Mafia game you are talking about ? But even if not, then the flavor was a flaw in what sounds like an otherwise good game that just happened to not be exploited. No insult to Coro, but if I was reviewing it and saw that I would've made her change it. |
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| I decided not to be active during night phases, considering that I am in my senior year and have a lot of assignments that count as final exams to hand in at any second. I decided to use night phase to work on that stuff for the most part. The train on Suzune is justified, although there are some things I'm kinda iffy about. I don't believe two scum would work together to frame a player like that, making themselves vulnerable like that. If Suzune is third party, it would clear there name. If Suzune is mafia, it would clear their name. But if Suzune is town, it would raise some high suspiscion and they're most likely dead. If this lynch goes through and Suzune turns out to be third party, I don't want us to completely defied our eyes from Lupa and Togs. If Suzune is mafia I don't want us to completely forget about them either. As this is a crazy setup, and I migth be reading too much into it, but it could be three scum setting this up to clear their own names. I don't suspect this tactic to be a thing tho, unless performed by a mad man. That Zombie fell sick after visiting is just a littlebit too convenient in my eyes. Which confirms even more to me that this might be a setup. I am not saying that Zombie is one of the masterminds behind that setup tho. I am heading out to get some nuggets, but I;ll be back in a few. To catch up some more, place my vote, and grant you with my lovely point of view on the situation. Edit: I recall reading earlier that somebody said that a killing ability doesn't seem to fit Yuna, but I back to defer. Her final summon is extremely powerful and able to make an end to the 1000 years of torment by Sin, who seemed to be unbeatable before. |
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_Claire_ said: Gwendolly said: Well then first as a full-time host :P Are there any differences? Because I thought the hosts are the mindmaster and the co-hosts are just helpers but didnt contribute to game mechanics. No, if counting with cohost its 3 games then. It is my personal opinion as a FF player (not an avid one but) if I were a host I would want antagonist vs protagonist. Who would want to have Sephiroth/Kuja/Ultimecia/Kefka as town .___. it ruins my imagination nonoh please. So I am sure that its antagonist vs protagonist's game (not to mention, look at the dead bodies and their names. It has not disproven my thinking) I could imagine Paine for example being a bad guy too. :P Even tho she is a goodie in the game she looks pretty badass. I dont know the Golbez character, but from first view he simply looks like a Knight. A bit darker designed, but I could imagine him being a good guy too, but like I said just from looking. I dont want to cause more confusion then there is xD so I'll just go with: anything is possible! |
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shadroxx2810 said: Please do not insult game hosts, for their past hard work and the great mafia games they made. Please and thank you Sorry Shad OTL |
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Tingle said: Edit: I recall reading earlier that somebody said that a killing ability doesn't seem to fit Yuna, but I back to defer. Her final summon is extremely powerful and able to make an end to the 1000 years of torment by Sin, who seemed to be unbeatable before. I never beat a single FF game xD So I guess I'll shut up about that then :P |
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| Ok sorry guys I'm experiencing a power outage right now and my phone is at 14% I really hope it gets fixed by noon but otherwise you won't see me around very much. I am a bit concerned about Suzune, she does seem towny in her responses and genuinely frustrated. I can possibly buy two commuters in a bastard game, but Lamby's claim is decisive evidence because I think he's town. So @Lamby @Lamby @Lamby Please confirm 100% once and for all if you saw Suzune use a kill. If you're bluffing I'll still read you as town but you need to tell me. |
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