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Phraze said: Then why do you think he voted her nearly immediately after?RE said: Gwen hasn't posted enough to get a grasp of her alignment yet. it was an honest answer. nothing sneaky to meYou disagree with my bad feeling? Why? Why are you voting Gwen now, what changed between Wisp's post and your vote? |
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Tainted said: I disagree mechanics talk as scum allows you to look like your doing something while information gathering or confusing town. Mechanics should be discussed when necessary I think it's unnecessary here. Even if shin is town he's making things easy for mafia. Easier for them to pick at him and easier for them to get involved in conversation.NewG said: if Shin plans on hiding he wouldn't have started the mechanical talk and just start the game normally in rvsYou said it yourself. Scum like to hide behind mechanical talk. And when's the better time if not D1? |
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Wisp-O said: ehhh why did u decide to vote here? are u asking for activity, or do u suspect smthing?RE said: how? How would you like me to word it then buttercup? I don't like this post, it give me a bad feeling. I take it back vote: Gwen Fite me |
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Phraze said: It's not reverse psychology, I'm just saying that town!Shinichi has a chance of wanting to out the neighborizer too.RE said: what does reverse psychology have to do with this? its not new.So either we're scum for wanting it or we screwed up. Why are you so against the neighborizer coming out? If the neighborizer was scum, they wouldn't want that, would they? See what I did there? That logic can easily be reversed. In the end, it's up them. We'll find out sooner than later, it was a suggestion with probability you can't refute. |
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| Well, I think Gwen has been doing as much mechanical talk as Shin-chan, so I don't know why this is being seen as an indicator. Shin-chan trying to get the Miller to claim is pretty average, though I wouldn't know why they wouldn't come forward themselves. (Of course, I'm using the assumption that Shin-chan had earlier.) Wisp defending his brother is non-alignment indicative really, it probably just means they're the same alignment as I think Wisp tends to have good reads on his brother (or only he is scum trying to trick Shin-chan knowing he is his greatest issue). His actions earlier make me feel kinda weird about him, in a bad way. Shin-chan's massclaim idea, though bad, I feel could come from either alignment. From Town it means it was to get the thread started, from scum to get people to claim early on. The way in which he went about it is what I feel better about. (See my next post.) Those are my thoughts on the brothers (And slightly on Gwen) thus far. |
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Tainted said: intention and outcome aren't always the same. See my last post #203logic340 said: idk does he really looks like he did it to help mafia?things that aren't in scum favor to discuss. Why help mafia right off the bat? |
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Phraze said: RE said: Gwen hasn't posted enough to get a grasp of her alignment yet. it was an honest answer. nothing sneaky to meYou disagree with my bad feeling? Why? I believe I have posted the most so far. Unless you see most of my posts as fluff, there is alot you can investigate in. What do you think of massclaiming? |
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logic340 said: roz1roz said: I was thinking about it and this seems more reasonable but also helps mafia identify town power roles. Still seems to help scum more than town imo. Can you enlighten me? Am I missing something?I still say that scum is worried of unknown and that massclaim can hurt them greatly, so they would deny this option. I don't say about role massclaim, but a group massclaim (as of in wich group are you). That alone should give a lot of info. Curious investigator should claim cit during the massclaim. There is many routes to make it a safe massclaim. |
RE said: asking him now. but I'd say the quick change is more from town!Wispo, since he's careful as scum. I'm voting Gwen since I don't like her wine - like mechanics should/not or whateverrPhraze said: Then why do you think he voted her nearly immediately after?Gwen hasn't posted enough to get a grasp of her alignment yet. it was an honest answer. nothing sneaky to me Why are you voting Gwen now, what changed between Wisp's post and your vote? |
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RE said: hmm ok. thats so roundaboutPhraze said: It's not reverse psychology, I'm just saying that town!Shinichi has a chance of wanting to out the neighborizer too.what does reverse psychology have to do with this? its not new. |
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Phraze said: Don't you agree though? You said in the post right above that Gwen's using wine.RE said: hmm ok. thats so roundaboutIt's not reverse psychology, I'm just saying that town!Shinichi has a chance of wanting to out the neighborizer too. |
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NewG said: most of ur posts are echoing things alrdy said. nothing new to add to the table. town!u would be more fearsome than this~Phraze said: Gwen hasn't posted enough to get a grasp of her alignment yet. it was an honest answer. nothing sneaky to me I believe I have posted the most so far. Unless you see most of my posts as fluff, there is alot you can investigate in. What do you think of massclaiming? I'm both ways with massclaiming .-. |
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ScarletCelestial said: mindmeld +1Well, I think Gwen has been doing as much mechanical talk as Shin-chan, so I don't know why this is being seen as an indicator. Shin-chan trying to get the Miller to claim is pretty average, though I wouldn't know why they wouldn't come forward themselves. (Of course, I'm using the assumption that Shin-chan had earlier.) Wisp defending his brother is non-alignment indicative really, it probably just means they're the same alignment as I think Wisp tends to have good reads on his brother (or only he is scum trying to trick Shin-chan knowing he is his greatest issue). His actions earlier make me feel kinda weird about him, in a bad way. Shin-chan's massclaim idea, though bad, I feel could come from either alignment. From Town it means it was to get the thread started, from scum to get people to claim early on. The way in which he went about it is what I feel better about. (See my next post.) Those are my thoughts on the brothers (And slightly on Gwen) thus far. |
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ScarletCelestial said: Shin-chan's massclaim idea, though bad, I feel could come from either alignment. From Town it means it was to get the thread started, from scum to get people to claim early on. The way in which he went about it is what I feel better about. (See my next post.) Those are my thoughts on the brothers (And slightly on Gwen) thus far. It is roz that wants to massclaim. |
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Phraze said: NewG said: most of ur posts are echoing things alrdy said. nothing new to add to the table. town!u would be more fearsome than this~I believe I have posted the most so far. Unless you see most of my posts as fluff, there is alot you can investigate in. What do you think of massclaiming? I'm both ways with massclaiming .-. Echoing what? I want examples or I can't come in terms with that. Because how am I adding nothing new if I am literally countering Shinichis thoughts about claiming? |
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Shinichi-Kun said: All the claiming you want would male this hard as invest could die N1.Wisp-O said: Ok lets start off with what is confirmed: 1. There are 4 Vanilla in play 2. The Jealous Mobster (1 in play) (Mafia Goon) 3. Those Who Hide (1 in play) (both roles in this group with show up as mafia aligned) Less Confirmed: I believe this game is semi flip and you only see the flavor group of the person that dies and gets lynched 3 will be harder to catch, hopefully if a cop exists they find the jealous mobster as soonas possible. roz1roz said: so you'd have them put themselves in a position. To get mislynched by lying a out their role? Not seeing how this helps town any?logic340 said: I was thinking about it and this seems more reasonable but also helps mafia identify town power roles. Still seems to help scum more than town imo. Can you enlighten me? Am I missing something? Curious investigator should claim cit during the massclaim. There is many routes to make it a safe massclaim. |
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NewG said: ScarletCelestial said: Shin-chan's massclaim idea, though bad, I feel could come from either alignment. From Town it means it was to get the thread started, from scum to get people to claim early on. The way in which he went about it is what I feel better about. (See my next post.) Those are my thoughts on the brothers (And slightly on Gwen) thus far. It is roz that wants to massclaim. I mean, Shin was the one who started it. All the mechanics talks. Also: I just worked out another issue. @roz1roz depending on the Mafia roles in play, they could already work out which PRs are in the game. If somebody says their group, then they could just attribute the role to them even more easily. |
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Tainted said: ask all you want, i have little to nothing at the moment and was doing a reread for that reason. In the mean time you can put yours out, since you expect people to have reads right now.Anyway this mechanic talk is turning to Shin talk.. @logic340 can I ask for your reads? |
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Tainted said: Mindmelds are a good way to get yourself pocketed watch yourself. ScarletCelestial said: mindmeld +1Well, I think Gwen has been doing as much mechanical talk as Shin-chan, so I don't know why this is being seen as an indicator. Shin-chan trying to get the Miller to claim is pretty average, though I wouldn't know why they wouldn't come forward themselves. (Of course, I'm using the assumption that Shin-chan had earlier.) Wisp defending his brother is non-alignment indicative really, it probably just means they're the same alignment as I think Wisp tends to have good reads on his brother (or only he is scum trying to trick Shin-chan knowing he is his greatest issue). His actions earlier make me feel kinda weird about him, in a bad way. Shin-chan's massclaim idea, though bad, I feel could come from either alignment. From Town it means it was to get the thread started, from scum to get people to claim early on. The way in which he went about it is what I feel better about. (See my next post.) Those are my thoughts on the brothers (And slightly on Gwen) thus far. |
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NewG said: Wisp-O said: on what though? Lol pretty broad question. Gotta work on some stuff, be back later On everything? You aren't a bystander dude. You haven't really tackled any issue here so far. There is lots to catch on. Thoughts on a massclaim coming from roz, thoughts on logic being against it, thoughts on Tainteds behaviour, thoughts on mine, thoughts on the votes etc? im kinda inbetween for or against mass claiming, if my earlier deduction is correct and death flips only show the group flavor, then it wont help as much as he thinks, plus theres the random outlier, and there very slim chance that there are 6 van, but with this game being psuedo random, I doubt theres 6 vanilla, 5 maybe, 4 is guaranteed, but not 6. So right now I think mass claiming is dumb, and unfun, but if the vanilla's wanna claim, I wouldnt mind. Logic - usual logic, with his vote to no lynch, still think its stupid, and he has some questionable posts... nothing major to place him yet Tainted - feels really townie like usual Gwen - many posts, lots of wine, meh, probably scum? maybe not? but my vote is here for now Also the train on shin, as much as early trains are good, I dont believe ur going to catch scum shin off day 1, and I honestly do believe this is his town game, he posts "differently" as scum imo. |
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RE said: gg lol. didnt want to look too deep into the argument but this was a reason //takes some time to reread itPhraze said: Don't you agree though? You said in the post right above that Gwen's using wine.hmm ok. thats so roundabout ok sooo.... u were trying to say that outing neighborizer is NAI, but Gwen was tilting it towards scum motivation, then u pointed out that not outing neighborizer is also NAI and what Gwen is doing =/= she was pot calling kettle black. right? I can understand that. the reverse psychology stuff could go either way for me, since it could be a misunderstanding, but other things stand out to me - Gwen talking philosophy/theory about claims more than poking ppl in her usual town way. |
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logic340 said: Tainted said: Mindmelds are a good way to get yourself pocketed watch yourself. mindmeld +1 Sure, I'm kinda half-ignoring Tainted anyway because they're too hard for me to read. Our styles are way too different. |
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ScarletCelestial said: the same can work for town... in a way I guess lolI mean, Shin was the one who started it. All the mechanics talks. Also: I just worked out another issue. @roz1roz depending on the Mafia roles in play, they could already work out which PRs are in the game. If somebody says their group, then they could just attribute the role to them even more easily. |
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Phraze said: Basically, yes, but #168 sounds like genuine thinking to me. So while I don't think Shinichi is scum based off of Gwen's reasoning, I can see from Gwen's point of view.RE said: gg lol. didnt want to look too deep into the argument but this was a reason //takes some time to reread itDon't you agree though? You said in the post right above that Gwen's using wine. ok sooo.... u were trying to say that outing neighborizer is NAI, but Gwen was tilting it towards scum motivation, then u pointed out that not outing neighborizer is also NAI and what Gwen is doing =/= she was pot calling kettle black. right? I can understand that. the reverse psychology stuff could go either way for me, since it could be a misunderstanding, but other things stand out to me - Gwen talking philosophy/theory about claims more than poking ppl in her usual town way. |
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logic340 said: Shin townTainted said: ask all you want, i have little to nothing at the moment and was doing a reread for that reason. In the mean time you can put yours out, since you expect people to have reads right now.Anyway this mechanic talk is turning to Shin talk.. @logic340 can I ask for your reads? Scar probably town Re slight town Wisp could be scum Gwen could also be scum kinda agree with Phraze there. Don't really have any strong reads but that's where I'm at |
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logic340 said: I dont think we need to worry about tainted getting pocketed... worry about ur lacking posts...Tainted said: Mindmelds are a good way to get yourself pocketed watch yourself. mindmeld +1 like this All the claiming you want would male this hard as invest could die N1. I hate this post, sounds more like scared scum, then concerned townie |
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NewG said: thats the point. ur countering existing opinions rather than looking for new ones.Phraze said: most of ur posts are echoing things alrdy said. nothing new to add to the table. town!u would be more fearsome than this~ I'm both ways with massclaiming .-. Echoing what? I want examples or I can't come in terms with that. Because how am I adding nothing new if I am literally countering Shinichis thoughts about claiming? |
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Wisp-O said: logic340 said: I dont think we need to worry about tainted getting pocketed... worry about ur lacking posts...Mindmelds are a good way to get yourself pocketed watch yourself. like this All the claiming you want would male this hard as invest could die N1. I hate this post, sounds more like scared scum, then concerned townie Wisp, that was directed to me. |
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Wisp-O said: NewG said: On everything? You aren't a bystander dude. You haven't really tackled any issue here so far. There is lots to catch on. Thoughts on a massclaim coming from roz, thoughts on logic being against it, thoughts on Tainteds behaviour, thoughts on mine, thoughts on the votes etc? im kinda inbetween for or against mass claiming, if my earlier deduction is correct and death flips only show the group flavor, then it wont help as much as he thinks, plus theres the random outlier, and there very slim chance that there are 6 van, but with this game being psuedo random, I doubt theres 6 vanilla, 5 maybe, 4 is guaranteed, but not 6. So right now I think mass claiming is dumb, and unfun, but if the vanilla's wanna claim, I wouldnt mind. Logic - usual logic, with his vote to no lynch, still think its stupid, and he has some questionable posts... nothing major to place him yet Tainted - feels really townie like usual Gwen - many posts, lots of wine, meh, probably scum? maybe not? but my vote is here for now Also the train on shin, as much as early trains are good, I dont believe ur going to catch scum shin off day 1, and I honestly do believe this is his town game, he posts "differently" as scum imo. Now you're just copying what Phraze said. All this claiming/ massclaim talk does my head in. Can we just not? And play normal and go after behaviour? |
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ScarletCelestial said: oh yeah.. will unvote if it gets too much. been dealing with majority elsewhere to be used to it~Also, if anyone forgot MAJORITY IS ON. If anybody reaches 8 votes today, the Day ends early. |
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Wisp-O said: logic340 said: I dont think we need to worry about tainted getting pocketed... worry about ur lacking posts...Mindmelds are a good way to get yourself pocketed watch yourself. like this All the claiming you want would male this hard as invest could die N1. I hate this post, sounds more like scared scum, then concerned townie Was this a hint? |
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ScarletCelestial said: how was the post about u? when logic quoted tainted...Wisp-O said: I dont think we need to worry about tainted getting pocketed... worry about ur lacking posts... like this All the claiming you want would male this hard as invest could die N1. I hate this post, sounds more like scared scum, then concerned townie Wisp, that was directed to me. @NewG sure lol |
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NewG said: of what?Wisp-O said: I dont think we need to worry about tainted getting pocketed... worry about ur lacking posts... like this All the claiming you want would male this hard as invest could die N1. I hate this post, sounds more like scared scum, then concerned townie Was this a hint? |
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Tainted said: logic340 said: Shin townask all you want, i have little to nothing at the moment and was doing a reread for that reason. In the mean time you can put yours out, since you expect people to have reads right now. Scar probably town Re slight town Wisp could be scum Gwen could also be scum kinda agree with Phraze there. Don't really have any strong reads but that's where I'm at You too? I'll be disappointed if you're town. How come you both have an opinion on me now, now that Phraze turned up and said stuff about me? You and wisp. And whats your read on logic? |
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It was directed at me because logic thought I'd get pickpocketed by Tainted's "mindmeld+1". |
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Wisp-O said: your grasping at straws bro. Try harder.logic340 said: I dont think we need to worry about tainted getting pocketed... worry about ur lacking posts...Mindmelds are a good way to get yourself pocketed watch yourself. like this All the claiming you want would male this hard as invest could die N1. I hate this post, sounds more like scared scum, then concerned townie |
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ScarletCelestial said: hmm, i thought it was the other way around...It was directed at me because logic thought I'd get pickpocketed by Tainted's "mindmeld+1". |
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Wisp-O said: What hanged your thought here? Just a change without showing the process?Actually I take that back, I think both town and mafia are equally harmed by vanilla claims. So I wouldnt mind some vanilla claims Phraze said: How are you so sure we're town (I assume my fellow townies refers to me and tainted here)?Tainted said: yep. thats my fellow towniesagree with logic here. Let's just stop talking about claiming right now. It's an easy talk for scum to just jump in. yurkin said: elaborate maybe?#31 logic340 said: @Shinichi-kun I want your Syo forum set hand it over. Also why do you think Shinichi is role fishing so heavy to start this game? for some reason logic asking "why" here is sus. |
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ScarletCelestial said: I was actually warming tainted...smh.It was directed at me because logic thought I'd get pickpocketed by Tainted's "mindmeld+1". |
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Tainted said: no read on me :cries:logic340 said: Shin townask all you want, i have little to nothing at the moment and was doing a reread for that reason. In the mean time you can put yours out, since you expect people to have reads right now. Scar probably town Re slight town Wisp could be scum Gwen could also be scum kinda agree with Phraze there. Don't really have any strong reads but that's where I'm at |
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logic340 said: ScarletCelestial said: I was actually warming tainted...smh.It was directed at me because logic thought I'd get pickpocketed by Tainted's "mindmeld+1". Really? Because I was the one who wrote those thoughts down. Tainted just went and said they had a mindmeld. I was the one who did the work, so I thought you were directing it to me... |
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logic340 said: Tainted said: no read on me :cries:Shin town Scar probably town Re slight town Wisp could be scum Gwen could also be scum kinda agree with Phraze there. Don't really have any strong reads but that's where I'm at Didn't give Phraze a read either... |
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ScarletCelestial said: all I was saying is Mindmelds can lead to easy pocketing. Nothing to do with the work you put in. logic340 said: I was actually warming tainted...smh. Really? Because I was the one who wrote those thoughts down. Tainted just went and said they had a mindmeld. I was the one who did the work, so I thought you were directing it to me... |
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logic340 said: I distinctly recall you bussing Crossbell for a bit in Easter Egg but this is fine for now. I forgot, did you ever give a read on Gwen?@RE logic is anti-bus as mafia if I'm mafia here whisper is town. I'm down with Wisper scum for now tho. |
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