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Nov 18, 2016 11:49 PM

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I feel like Kogami's sensei is gonna die. Hope he doesn't.
Jan 22, 2017 7:17 AM

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There's something that doesn't make sense to me and I hope I can find an explanation for it.

Why is Akane acting like Kogami is in the wrong? Yeah, he stepped out of the law, but this is to catch Makishima, someone who is proven to have committed numerous terrible crimes. If they were to stick with the Sibyl system's opinion, Makishima would never be brought to justice.

Also, Akane and the others must know by now that something's up with the Sybil system's judgment. Not only is it unable to read Makishima while he is in the act of committing a crime, but the chief also showed she can bypass its security at will (like when she touched the dominator and changed it to lethal eliminator.)

Anyway, fine, I remember Akane said that those whose hue cannot be read by the Sibyl System should be brought to court and have a proper trial. So maybe that's why she disapproves of Kogami going to kill Makishima himself.

But then that means she wants to allow Makishima a proper trial instead of killing him. But isn't that pointless? Makishima is clearly guilty, what good would a trial do? He's going to end up proven guilty and executed anyway. What difference does it make if Kogami's the one who does it immediately, or the police officially execute him after the court hearing?
It seems like she wants that trial just for formality, and that's pretty selfish of her, because while she allows Makishima to live because she doesn't want Kogami to kill him, she is putting others lives at stake.
For example, Makishima killed that dude that started the hyper oat thing. If Kogami was permitted to kill him sooner, that innocent man wouldn't have died. I feel like Akane should be supporting Kogami 100% in order to stop Makishima once and for all so no other innocent person has no die. But instead, she's more concerned about giving Makishima a proper trial.

But okay, let's say she doesn't care if Makishima has a trial or not, she just doesn't want Kogami's hands to get dirty. But since when has she cared about that? Kogami has used the dominator to kill criminals before and she didn't complain. It was part of the job.
If this is the case, this means the only reason she doesn't want Kogami to kill Makishima is because Sybil says so and the dominator says so. But that's kinda dumb because obviously this case is an exception, she witnessed Makishima commit a crime firsthand so why still consult the Sybil system's opinion?

I really just need to understand why she disapproves of Kogami's actions. I've discussed all the possible answers I could think of as to why, but they all end up in dead ends.
Because in the end, it's not like Kogami is becoming a criminal who can't turn back. He just wants to bring ONE person to justice which is long overdue. After that, it's not like he'll pose a harm to anyone. Thanks if anyone replies ^_^
Jun 23, 2017 12:13 PM

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Dec 10, 2017 4:52 AM

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Kiraikotsu said:

Why is Akane acting like Kogami is in the wrong?


He's an Enforcer. Him going after Makishima on his own is the same as escaping and thus a crime. Given his Crime Coefficent before that being 250 or so, they'll have to use lethal dominator on him. That's why Akane is mad at him. Whether he's right or not is irrelevant.

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Also, this is episode 19 discussion threat. You can't post anything beyond that point here.
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Sep 5, 2018 9:10 PM
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Kiraikotsu said:
But then that means she wants to allow Makishima a proper trial instead of killing him. But isn't that pointless? Makishima is clearly guilty, what good would a trial do?

Over 1.5 years late, but I am going to answer this anyway.. at least from the perspectice of someone who is watching this for the first time and do not know what is going on later.

The way I see it, Akane actually hold similar values to generally accepted values in current developed nations. That is, the end doesn't always justifies the mean, you can't have vigilante going around "dispensing justice", and there needs to be the rule of the law, as opposed to the rule of the mob.

Today, with certain exceptions (cases of immediate threat), it is not acceptable for armed police to dispense immediate "deadly justice". You may or may not agree with it personally, but that is generally accepted for numerous reasons I won't list unless pressed to. If you consider the legal cost involved in sentencing someone to death in the US, one could certainly argue that the police should just put a bullet in the head of the person who will "undoubtedly" be put to sleep anyway, but that simply isn't accepted. The law needs to be followed and intentionally killing someone, outside legally recognised situation (e.g. self defense, or the person is about to detonate a bomb) will make the person a murderer.

Now it should be noted that in Psycho Pass Japan, the Dominator.. or more exactly Sybil is essentially the law. The agents in that world get to dispense near instant justice (paralysis or execution) because the "trial" is basically done as they point the Dominator at the target. It is a much faster process than the trial system we use.. but it means that law enforcement can't kill anyone they deem guilty, but rather anyone deemed guilty by the Sybil. In that sense their system still a bit of mirror what we are familiar with, and Enforcers are still expected not to dispense their own justice for the same reasons we generally do not let the police decide if a person lives or dies no matter how much of a scum the person is (again, with immediate threat being an exception).
Oct 2, 2018 6:47 PM

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Why do I feel like that Akane is criminally asymptomatic? I mean her hue doesn't change and her criminal coefficient quickly recovers when she saw her friend being killed, but then again she havent committed any crimes... yet.

Ah that dominator. I though it was going to self destruct and kill Akane. Lmao.
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Nov 26, 2018 2:54 AM
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Am i the only one who sees Makishima from the beginning as the only hope for humanity?
I mean the whole Sibyl system is not natural and only benefiting the boot lickers of society.
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Dec 28, 2018 9:18 PM

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Thanks to the professor's keen thinking about going on internet forums and Shinya's similarities to Makishima's philosophical beliefs, they now know that he's planning the poison the food supply to create a nationwide famine and a refugee crisis. By rendering the Sibyl System worthless because the Dominator will start to work against just about anyone, their ideas of absolute control will crumble into nothing. It's a pretty bad idea to put all your eggs in one basket after all.

Sibyl ended up manipulating Akane into hearing nothing but lies that will most likely make her even more convinced to take down Shinya. If the Eyes of Sibyl starts talking to you about crap they don't usually do, it's about time you turn it in for repairs.








Mar 23, 2019 6:36 PM

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So the system is interested in Akane, well she's also a special case after all.

And Hyper-oats, would like to know if they help making better gains xD

In any case, Makishimas plan is pretty extreme. Can't wait to see how this will play out.

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Apr 20, 2019 8:31 AM

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Remember professor, op never delivers.


May 26, 2019 11:27 AM

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I really loved this episode. It was quiet but very insightful and my heart ached for Gino. His own Psycho-Pass is getting worse and I totally understand why he is losing his cool and why he wanted to keep the case. Any other section would instantly kill Ko on sight but Gino loves him (and I think, deeply hidden, also his dad). He is really lost. angry and desperate. I LOVE the professor and Kougami's discussions with him and how they profiled Makishima.
Jun 2, 2019 3:45 PM

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So, Makishima's plan is to overthrow the Sibyl system.

I'm worried about Gino, his own Psycho-Pass is getting worse.

Can't wait for the next episode.
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Jun 3, 2019 9:24 PM

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Shinya is such an uninspiring protagonist, so boring
Jul 7, 2019 6:50 AM

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the hell with the last bit...are they taking akane in too
Jul 10, 2019 9:35 AM

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"Watching her give me hope." I can see the ship are sailing from miles away.

Ok, how Kogami know that the Chief made some sort of proposal to Makishima is a plot hole.

Now that I recall, Akane had some similarity to Makishima's CC or Hue, sort of.
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Dec 11, 2019 8:18 PM

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So he would be branded a killer if he kills someone with normal psycho pass, but that is a hole in the system and that indeed did many crimes and killed people that they could also confirm. But if he killed someone with a psycho pass of over 300, it will be deemed as good work, because Sybil said so. They sure are puppets of the system. Now just wish Akane doesn't get brainwashed.
Nov 9, 2020 3:41 PM

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Quite a confusing plan
Apr 1, 2021 6:55 PM

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I didn't understand the relevance of the last bit but I get it now. Seems like they want Akane. The way Kogami figured out Makishima's plan feels dumb lol.
Jan 4, 2022 7:48 AM

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the series still good in keeping it fresh though the end is near lol,
i'm no agreeing in comparing PP to DN but koukami and the sensei deducing makishima's next move reminded me DN a lot.

wonder about that end.
Jul 15, 2022 8:54 PM

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Ooh, that ending. I wonder how Inspector Tsunemori fits into Sybil's plans. Must have something to do with her ability to maintain a clear hue.
Nov 24, 2022 5:58 AM
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The cliffhanger was too much to take
May 30, 2023 2:49 AM

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Big setup episode for the last three episodes, let's see what will happen.
Jun 20, 2023 12:00 AM

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I expected the hyper-oats to be glowing in neon colours. Am disappoint ><


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Jul 17, 2023 12:34 PM

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I really enjoyed the conversation the professor and Kogami had about Makishima. 


Stay away from Akane
Aug 28, 2023 7:22 PM

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Holy sh*t
Even now mrs B Gates aiming for farm, planning to ruin food supplies n modificate n make his own.. How accurate this anime is 😮




May 11, 2024 12:40 PM

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May 11, 2024 12:41 PM

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May 11, 2024 12:42 PM

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hmmmm lessee where the story's going to, hella interesting ngl >:)
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Mar 29, 10:15 AM

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cheerin for Ko san
this is interesting, the way he s going to remaind outside the system
Apr 7, 3:03 AM
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this show describes anarchism better than school books fr
Jun 27, 10:32 AM

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So are they trying to get Akane on their side now?
Jul 24, 5:14 PM

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I was starting to grow annoyed with Saiga's overly philosophical monologues but he's a real one for essentially putting his freedom on the line to help Shinya
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