Phraze said: not if Marianna 4 players at the start. 9-4 start is not out of the question yet.logic340 said: hmm talking balance like this makes this setup interesting. guess I'll try read the roles that way.Pgo (killer)/goon(TWH)/goon(mobster) vs. Cop/jailer/neighbor/backup/fallacy/5 vt? Look how unbalanced this would be. Sounds really bad unless you think tainted is . and 1 janitor such still leaves a goon unaccounted for. if mobster is always in play, while Taker is conf!scum, that means Roz was def miller/town. 2 goon is underpowered. we're missing mobster and 1 more role. 1 scum def in citizens (unless 5th is cit wildcard?). and 1 scum def in PRs cuz Roz is safely assumed town. 10-3 or 9-4 to start imo. If roz was Miller. D1 10-3 or 9-4 mislynch roz N1 9-3 or 8-4 RE killed D2 8-3 or 7-4 lynch taker N2 8-2 or 7-3 yurkin killed D3 7-2 or 6-3 no lynch N3 7-2 or 6-3 No night kill D4 7-2 or 6-3 If roz was goon D1 10-3 or 9-4 lynch roz N1 10-2 or 9-3 RE killed D2 9-2 or 8-3 lynch taker N2 9-1 or 8-2 yurkin killed D3 8-1 or 7-2 no lynch N3 8-1 or 7-2 No night kill D4 8-1 or 7-2 7-2 and 6-3 seem like the more reasonable scenarios here. Personally I feel like we're at 7-2 right now. |
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Wisp-O said: starting to really look that way but I'm willing to entertain other options. We need some information tho.Phraze said: it's probably a good idea to try read into the set up a little... But tainted still needs to go...hmm talking balance like this makes this setup interesting. guess I'll try read the roles that way. if mobster is always in play, while Taker is conf!scum, that means Roz was def miller/town. 2 goon is underpowered. we're missing mobster and 1 more role. 1 scum def in citizens (unless 5th is cit wildcard?). and 1 scum def in PRs cuz Roz is safely assumed town. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: look at it from my Pov. I'm fallacy from a balance standpoint town is way too strong. I'm fallacy all the PR claims mean town is OP so someone is lying about their alignment or role.OMG how am i still being suspected, wtf do u believe the outcome of the night makes me? Tainted claimed tracker there is no ninja in intrigue. What role is left to counter besides your jail keeper role? Only other option if you're town then is tainted is intruige - janitor. Unless you think you can explain to me how neighbor would balance things? |
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Phraze said: if cop and jailer are with town then Tracker is odd role out imo not neighbor. I don't really see how neighbor helps scum against jails and invest?might sleep through phase change. back from a day trip~ I'm set for a Tainted lynch, Shin as locktown, unless proven otherwise (and as principle, if Shin rolls scum he won't even think of skipping a nightkill) @Century_Orion did u neighborize anyone? @Wisp-O since we kinda established facts here, who do u think in the cit claims is scum? @logic340 in a setup with jailer and cop, what part do u think the neighborizer will play? seen a recent setup with scum neighborizer and it was like a replacement for the godfather role. |
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logic340 said: no lynch is bad but a Tainted lynch is the worst :pwould you have preferred to be the lynch instead? If so sack of rice yourself for the info today. |
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| @Pokeit if you're really a citizen who of the others you think is lying? Maybe you already got asked but I havent really got a clear image of you. You claimed the 5th and accused someone of lying but yet it didnt seem to bother you that one of the early claims are lying. Who would you tackle next if Tainted flips investigator/scum? |
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| Don't lock the lynch yet; Imma need to sleep over it if a cit or wildcard is a better lynch. If I come back and Tainted is lynched and flips investigator, I would look at Phraze/logic next. Shin too if he is still alive lol |
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Wisp-O said: tainted/gwen or logic/Pokeit@logic340 if tainted flips town, you and poke it for me @tainted if you flip scum, then Gwen is probably your buddy Shin can't possibly be scum, cent can be tho So shin/phraze/karote/century are lock town for you and never scum this game? |
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logic340 said: cross out cent and sure, what ever makes you sleep at nightWisp-O said: tainted/gwen or logic/Pokeit@logic340 if tainted flips town, you and poke it for me @tainted if you flip scum, then Gwen is probably your buddy Shin can't possibly be scum, cent can be tho So shin/phraze/karote/century are lock town for you and never scum this game? |
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Phraze said: whether I flip scum or town does that make the 5 citizen claims clear? No.Tainted said: I explained alrdy why this is the better option. what makes town go in circles is leaving the wildcard's placement unconfirmed.the 2nd one is def what's gonna happen and it won't really benefit town that much. town will just go around in circles helping scum and lynching the most important role that's why it's stupid and I'm against it. You guys just made a turn and gave scum a free lynch for this "info lynch" where at the end doesn't really change anything.. if there really is two scum then town just only need 1 mislynch to lylo. If anyone can actually sort out 5 people without the need of tracker then I wouldn't be worried but seeing how I'm about to be lynched right now I doubt anyone can.. |
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logic340 said: no vote phrazeTainted said: scum trying to cause confusion or.just a dumbass. I'm kinda ready to just lynch wisp at this point and remove that headache from the equation.yurkin cced Taker so wouldn't that confirm her after Taker flipped? Idk what you're trying to do by wining with scum's nk |
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Tainted said: this is a 10% info Lynch and a 90% your are scum lynch... If I had my way u would've been dead yesterday...Phraze said: whether I flip scum or town does that make the 5 citizen claims clear? No.I explained alrdy why this is the better option. what makes town go in circles is leaving the wildcard's placement unconfirmed. You guys just made a turn and gave scum a free lynch for this "info lynch" where at the end doesn't really change anything.. if there really is two scum then town just only need 1 mislynch to lylo. If anyone can actually sort out 5 people without the need of tracker then I wouldn't be worried but seeing how I'm about to be lynched right now I doubt anyone can.. Should've just took the L last night, but Chad created more wine... |
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Tainted said: so you think it's phraze over wisp now? What changed your mind?logic340 said: no vote phrazescum trying to cause confusion or.just a dumbass. I'm kinda ready to just lynch wisp at this point and remove that headache from the equation. |
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Wisp-O said: No one even presented me a behavioral case on why I'm scum you guys are just wining yourself with the setup and talking about info lynch..Tainted said: this is a 10% info Lynch and a 90% your are scum lynch... If I had my way u would've been dead yesterday...whether I flip scum or town does that make the 5 citizen claims clear? No. You guys just made a turn and gave scum a free lynch for this "info lynch" where at the end doesn't really change anything.. if there really is two scum then town just only need 1 mislynch to lylo. If anyone can actually sort out 5 people without the need of tracker then I wouldn't be worried but seeing how I'm about to be lynched right now I doubt anyone can.. Should've just took the L last night, but Chad created more wine... |
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Wisp-O said: another TMI slip? Bolded means that tainted is town. Mafia tried to kill tainted was blocked by shinichi. Why would you vote tainted in this situation?Tainted said: this is a 10% info Lynch and a 90% your are scum lynch... If I had my way u would've been dead yesterday...whether I flip scum or town does that make the 5 citizen claims clear? No. You guys just made a turn and gave scum a free lynch for this "info lynch" where at the end doesn't really change anything.. if there really is two scum then town just only need 1 mislynch to lylo. If anyone can actually sort out 5 people without the need of tracker then I wouldn't be worried but seeing how I'm about to be lynched right now I doubt anyone can.. Should've just took the L last night, but Chad created more wine... |
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Tainted said: u gave us the case... And the set up doesn't feel possible where there are 3 inves... And if you are town who do you think the lying PR? Do you seriously think it's chad? The only two options are Logic and Cent... Have u poked either of them?Wisp-O said: No one even presented me a behavioral case on why I'm scum you guys are just wining yourself with the setup and talking about info lynch..this is a 10% info Lynch and a 90% your are scum lynch... If I had my way u would've been dead yesterday... Should've just took the L last night, but Chad created more wine... |
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logic340 said: yep... It's all wine, wish he was dead alreadyWisp-O said: another TMI slip? Bolded means that tainted is town. Mafia tried to kill tainted was blocked by shinichi. Why would you vote tainted in this situation?this is a 10% info Lynch and a 90% your are scum lynch... If I had my way u would've been dead yesterday... Should've just took the L last night, but Chad created more wine... |
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Wisp-O said: it could certainly be chad bro.Tainted said: u gave us the case... And the set up doesn't feel possible where there are 3 inves... And if you are town who do you think the lying PR? Do you seriously think it's chad? The only two options are Logic and Cent... Have u poked either of them?No one even presented me a behavioral case on why I'm scum you guys are just wining yourself with the setup and talking about info lynch.. |
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logic340 said: nah wisp still doesn't make any sense so he's still scumTainted said: so you think it's phraze over wisp now? What changed your mind?no vote phraze Cit scum should be with Phraze/Wisp Phraze just keeps pushing for wine to get me lynched like she denied all possibility that scum didn't nk anyone last night and then right now she just keeps pushing me for a lynch after shin jailed me. It would make sense for her to be the scum who wined this scenario to get a mislynch |
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Tainted said: ok so for you the lying citizen is phraze or wisp and. you trust gwen/pokeit/karote?logic340 said: nah wisp still doesn't make any sense so he's still scumso you think it's phraze over wisp now? What changed your mind? Cit scum should be with Phraze/Wisp Phraze just keeps pushing for wine to get me lynched like she denied all possibility that scum didn't nk anyone last night and then right now she just keeps pushing me for a lynch after shin jailed me. It would make sense for her to be the scum who wined this scenario to get a mislynch |
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Wisp-O said: yeah you're just talking about the setup :pTainted said: u gave us the case... And the set up doesn't feel possible where there are 3 inves... And if you are town who do you think the lying PR? Do you seriously think it's chad? The only two options are Logic and Cent... Have u poked either of them?No one even presented me a behavioral case on why I'm scum you guys are just wining yourself with the setup and talking about info lynch.. Na it's not chad I think it's cent him not using his n1 role ability could mean that his scum partner is in a pinch or used their role ability that's why he made the factional killing and didn't neighborize anyone. I'd like the citizen pile sorted out first though. |
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logic340 said: not quite sure about gwen haven't noticed much of her presence lately. Tainted said: ok so for you the lying citizen is phraze or wisp and. you trust gwen/pokeit/karote?nah wisp still doesn't make any sense so he's still scum Cit scum should be with Phraze/Wisp Phraze just keeps pushing for wine to get me lynched like she denied all possibility that scum didn't nk anyone last night and then right now she just keeps pushing me for a lynch after shin jailed me. It would make sense for her to be the scum who wined this scenario to get a mislynch Karote is just karote. And I tracked pokeit after Taker died so yeah he could be town |
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logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: look at it from my Pov. I'm fallacy from a balance standpoint town is way too strong. I'm fallacy all the PR claims mean town is OP so someone is lying about their alignment or role.OMG how am i still being suspected, wtf do u believe the outcome of the night makes me? Tainted claimed tracker there is no ninja in intrigue. What role is left to counter besides your jail keeper role? Only other option if you're town then is tainted is intruige - janitor. Unless you think you can explain to me how neighbor would balance things? this doesn't answer my question though |
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Shinichi-Kun said: u know the more I read Logic's posts, the more I think he is scum and that its him and poke it haha... If he keeps talking I might just not vote tainted after alllogic340 said: look at it from my Pov. I'm fallacy from a balance standpoint town is way too strong. I'm fallacy all the PR claims mean town is OP so someone is lying about their alignment or role. Tainted claimed tracker there is no ninja in intrigue. What role is left to counter besides your jail keeper role? Only other option if you're town then is tainted is intruige - janitor. Unless you think you can explain to me how neighbor would balance things? this doesn't answer my question though |
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Tainted said: Century_Orion said: this is a shit vote btwI think the citizen claims are a bit too complicated for me to figure out. Wildcard is a safer bet because of its unpredictability. Vote: Tainted I find it safer than the citizen/scum lynch that has a 20% chance of success. It's more of a mystery with wildcard, which has like 44% chance of a successful lynch considering all the mafia roles. I'll be judging him for the final votes he made in each phase, cause I feel an ISO will take too long, unless one was already made, in which case I haven't seen it yet. #717 - Votes Logic for possibly lying about his role I believe. Ends up being more likely to be wrong after he ends up in the Intrigue category with the claim of Pathetic Fallacy after lynch. Besides, his reaction to his claimed role being mentioned before claiming it is similar to mine (#41) by asking about others' opinions on that role and asking what might happen if it existed, while trying to be rather subtle about it. Edit: I thought Logic died but I was wrong. Yurkin died. Edit 2: My notes are very messed up; I didn't even pay attention to your name. Let me try to answer this again. He votes you for possibly lying about your role. I forgot why he thought that you were lying, but this could go either way for either alignment. Scum wants to push lynch or suspicious town, but his suspicion towards Tainted doesn't seem to be for cred because there might be too few to turn against and vote. #1573 - Votes Logic from the start and later votes Tainted because apparently what he was saying then about how he used his role didn't match up with his claim (said he didn't know he was backup when there was no mention of not being able to know if you're a backup or not as per the roles listed), so Tainted was probably lying about role - which would make him more likely to be scum. This overall seems like pretty towny behaviour. Even now, he's voting for Tainted and is suspicious to others as well. NewG said: Century_Orion said: I think the citizen claims are a bit too complicated for me to figure out. Wildcard is a safer bet because of its unpredictability. Vote: Tainted You'd rather get rid of a potential PR/scum than a citizen/scum? I mentioned this earlier. Wildcard has a higher chance of having scum compared to 1 scum out of the citizen claims, from my reply to Tainted above. Phraze said: might sleep through phase change. back from a day trip~ I'm set for a Tainted lynch, Shin as locktown, unless proven otherwise (and as principle, if Shin rolls scum he won't even think of skipping a nightkill) @Century_Orion did u neighborize anyone? Oh. Oh no. I forgot. I'll try to speak to host about it when or if I decide. |
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NewG said: Phraze said: better to go for Tainted cuz its our best bet. no kill and he was blocked/protected = 50/50. Shin will have a job cut out for him to figure who out of 2 should be jailed too Why not lynch cent then? He is 50/50 too and he is useless. Oh no. My ROLE is useless, and I'm inactive cause I'm piled with a ridiculous amount of homework with short due dates. I also went out to buy myself a Subway and McD's  |
NewG said: Assuming Tainted gets lynched today:@Pokeit if you're really a citizen who of the others you think is lying? Maybe you already got asked but I havent really got a clear image of you. You claimed the 5th and accused someone of lying but yet it didnt seem to bother you that one of the early claims are lying. Who would you tackle next if Tainted flips investigator/scum?
Will look further into peoples relations to Tainted if he flips scum. Why do you say it doesn't seem to bother me that one of the early claims is lying? |
| I'd highly suggest finding the scum in citizen claims next. @pokeit u know the only place where the last scum can be... like what... I dont like this post from you at all... and gwen made a good point, it didnt seem like it bothered you, that you were claiming the 5th vanilla @phraze we might totally be wrong about tainted... Suspicions regardless of Tainteds flips: Wisp-O, Shinichi-Kun this will never be a thing... move on |
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Wisp-O said: There could still be scum in the remaining powerroles, but if they just flip their categories and not their allignment I'd rather find confirmed scum in the citizen claims.I'd highly suggest finding the scum in citizen claims next. @pokeit u know the only place where the last scum can be... like what... I dont like this post from you at all... and gwen made a good point, it didnt seem like it bothered you, that you were claiming the 5th vanilla @phraze we might totally be wrong about tainted... Suspicions regardless of Tainteds flips: Wisp-O, Shinichi-Kun this will never be a thing... move on |
Pokeit said: no there cant... that was a mis calculation on my part... one scum is a power role, and the last one is not...Wisp-O said: There could still be scum in the remaining powerroles, but if they just flip their categories and not their allignment I'd rather find confirmed scum in the citizen claims.I'd highly suggest finding the scum in citizen claims next. @pokeit u know the only place where the last scum can be... like what... I dont like this post from you at all... and gwen made a good point, it didnt seem like it bothered you, that you were claiming the 5th vanilla @phraze we might totally be wrong about tainted... Suspicions regardless of Tainteds flips: Wisp-O, Shinichi-Kun this will never be a thing... move on |
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Wisp-O said: Elaborate? I don't understand your post.Pokeit said: no there cant... that was a mis calculation on my part... one scum is a power role, and the last one is not...There could still be scum in the remaining powerroles, but if they just flip their categories and not their allignment I'd rather find confirmed scum in the citizen claims. |
Pokeit said: just think about it...Wisp-O said: Elaborate? I don't understand your post.no there cant... that was a mis calculation on my part... one scum is a power role, and the last one is not... If roz is miller which I believe he is, theres still 5 vanilla claims, and 1 PR vanilla... there is no possiblity of having 5 vanilla claims... which leads to the fact, that one scum is one of the evil PRs, and the last scum is the vanilla goon |
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| @pokeit unless u want to play the game where Roz is actually scum... which would mean no vanillas are scum, which would be against what you believe, because the last scum would be two PRs... which would again mean, that tainted IS STILL LYING cause he is the wild card... |
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Wisp-O said: So you believe Tainted is telling the truth?Pokeit said: just think about it...Elaborate? I don't understand your post. If roz is miller which I believe he is, theres still 5 vanilla claims, and 1 PR vanilla... there is no possiblity of having 5 vanilla claims... which leads to the fact, that one scum is one of the evil PRs, and the last scum is the vanilla goon |
| @NewG @Phraze @Shinichi-kun @Century_Orion @Tainted Tainted I highly suggest you make a decent case I someone that can actually be scum instead of pushing omgus votes... If tainted is scum... then shin is cleared hands down... if tainted is not scum, then we seriously need to look into Logic and Pokeit... there posts have the most inconsistencies |
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Pokeit said: I cant confirm or deny that... and hes not helping... thats why he needs to go... and I am confused with how you think??Wisp-O said: So you believe Tainted is telling the truth?just think about it... If roz is miller which I believe he is, theres still 5 vanilla claims, and 1 PR vanilla... there is no possiblity of having 5 vanilla claims... which leads to the fact, that one scum is one of the evil PRs, and the last scum is the vanilla goon why am I explaining why ur idea of two more pr scums is wrong? why do you even think thats possible? |
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Wisp-O said: I have no idea what arguments you're pulling out of your ass right now to shade me.Pokeit said: I cant confirm or deny that... and hes not helping... thats why he needs to go... and I am confused with how you think??So you believe Tainted is telling the truth? why am I explaining why ur idea of two more pr scums is wrong? why do you even think thats possible? By power roles I mean roles that are in a category, maybe power role wasn't the best word to express my meaning, but anyways. If Tainted lynch happens, I want to lynch from the citizen claims next because if we find scum there they will be confirmed by their alignment. The only other lynches we can make besides those are in groups which won't be confirmed scum when they flip. |
Wisp-O said: if tainted is not scum, then we seriously need to look into Logic and Pokeit... there posts have the most inconsistencies How have my posts been inconsistent? Explain. |
Pokeit said: U THINK PRS WAS A GOOD CHOICE TO LABEL THE GROUPS... Wisp-O said: I have no idea what arguments you're pulling out of your ass right now to shade me.I cant confirm or deny that... and hes not helping... thats why he needs to go... and I am confused with how you think?? why am I explaining why ur idea of two more pr scums is wrong? why do you even think thats possible? By power roles I mean roles that are in a category, maybe power role wasn't the best word to express my meaning, but anyways. If Tainted lynch happens, I want to lynch from the citizen claims next because if we find scum there they will be confirmed by their alignment. The only other lynches we can make besides those are in groups which won't be confirmed scum when they flip. I dont need to shade you, as like you, i will focus on the vanillas that I think are scum... which is you all the way at the top... I dont see gwen scum... Phraze maybe? Karote??? well he is karote so that leaves u |
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