logic340 said: Ruu said: I'm calling shenanigans on this one. Not only do I support what Kit said about you complaining about being Vanilla all the time. Role information is kind of important in deciding how your going to approach things to my understanding. Did your PM really say SCUM?? Little details like this make a difference when trying to decide if you are mafia or town. It's over the top and I have to ask myself where it's coming form and what's the motivation?I never do. No matter my alignment. I just look for the word town/scum and then I'm off to the game thread. I have no problem if you want to come after me. I'm town so I have nothing to fear really... You are correct, I used to complain about always being vanilla but from my last game as town I learn that knowing I have a PR could get me kill pretty quickly. For example, last time I panicked on the first day because I had like two RVS votes and I thought I was getting lynch and ended up saying "you don't want to lynch me" or something like that and that caught the attention of the mafia who usually wouldn't kill me because I'm an easy lynch. So from now on I only care about Town/Mafia and I reread the pm after the end of the first day in case I get a useful pr (which doesn't normally happen ;-;) |
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Ruu said: What if you have a day time active ability? Are you really willing to chance missing a days use?logic340 said: I'm calling shenanigans on this one. Not only do I support what Kit said about you complaining about being Vanilla all the time. Role information is kind of important in deciding how your going to approach things to my understanding. Did your PM really say SCUM?? Little details like this make a difference when trying to decide if you are mafia or town. It's over the top and I have to ask myself where it's coming form and what's the motivation? You are correct, I used to complain about always being vanilla but from my last game as town I learn that knowing I have a PR could get me kill pretty quickly. For example, last time I panicked on the first day because I had like two RVS votes and I thought I was getting lynch and ended up saying "you don't want to lynch me" or something like that and that caught the attention of the mafia who usually wouldn't kill me because I'm an easy lynch. So from now on I only care about Town/Mafia and I reread the pm after the end of the first day in case I get a useful pr (which doesn't normally happen ;-;) |
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logic340 said: Ruu said: What if you have a day time active ability? Are you really willing to chance missing a days use?You are correct, I used to complain about always being vanilla but from my last game as town I learn that knowing I have a PR could get me kill pretty quickly. For example, last time I panicked on the first day because I had like two RVS votes and I thought I was getting lynch and ended up saying "you don't want to lynch me" or something like that and that caught the attention of the mafia who usually wouldn't kill me because I'm an easy lynch. So from now on I only care about Town/Mafia and I reread the pm after the end of the first day in case I get a useful pr (which doesn't normally happen ;-;) they exist? D: |
Ruu said: Rosie had one in our last game, she was TPR serial killer and could day kill. I doubt there would be a daytime use town PR in a basic setuplogic340 said: What if you have a day time active ability? Are you really willing to chance missing a days use? they exist? D: |
BunnyEnergizer said: I've never played ToS so I'll take Kit's word for it about the differences.logic340 said: In regards to Bunny and Sollux I don't want to get into another cookiecrusher situation with these two new players. I would like us all to engage with them in an effort to help them understand what is going on. @wen294 in no way am I saying to hold their hands and walk them through it, but I was completely lost in my first game until I saw Soren nail scum EoD1 so I can relate. I know new doesn't=town but if they stay lost for too long we wont be able to read them later (See cookie in Fairy Tail game). @Sollux16 and @BunnyEnergizer what are your experiences with mafia? Did you know anything about the game (IRL or Forum) before joining this game? The best advice I can give you is to speak your mind and use our vote as they are every town's best weapons. If you find something strange speak up on it and discuss it with others. If you don't understand what someone is saying or doing ask them about it so you can get a better understanding. They could be lying they could be telling the truth so think about what they would have to gain as either role when reading their responses. In no way should these hints garner me town credit this is just me trying to get you guys more involved. aaaa, i dont have any experience in mafia, but i will try to do my best lol XD i did play town of salem, few games, it is similar right? i think ill understand everything after i read all the chat (i dont even use forums, like at all) so lul im noob xd |
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Kit said: Yep that's what i do. I usually don't think too much about the why. I'll do that tomorrow. Or at least attempt to.wen294 said: I don't blame you for not liking it, I was honestly wondering why no one called me out until you did. It doesn't seem like you're thinking about why I said it though, just framing it as "this is yucky so Kit must be scum"It's not like i have a fun time defending Gruffin, it's just that your post sounded really yuck. Even without me twisting your words. Heck i twisted your words precisely because the original is yuck. |
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Ruu said: Surely you jest.logic340 said: What if you have a day time active ability? Are you really willing to chance missing a days use? they exist? D: You remember shooting Mishu early in the day before giving him a chance to talk or claim or whatever? Because i certainly do. |
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logic340 said: BunnyEnergizer said: I've never played ToS so I'll take Kit's word for it about the differences.aaaa, i dont have any experience in mafia, but i will try to do my best lol XD i did play town of salem, few games, it is similar right? i think ill understand everything after i read all the chat (i dont even use forums, like at all) so lul im noob xd Difference long story short is basically that ToS is all about PRs but in forum mafia interaction is WAY more important. |
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wen294 said: Gotchalogic340 said: I've never played ToS so I'll take Kit's word for it about the differences. Difference long story short is basically that ToS is all about PRs but in forum mafia interaction is WAY more important. wen294 said: Do tell me more? What game was this?Surely you jest. You remember shooting Mishu early in the day before giving him a chance to talk or claim or whatever? Because i certainly do. |
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logic340 said: I'm not totally sure, but her reactions to Denja seems like she was fumbling and she lied about not looking at her role PM. As a town she wouldn't have needed an excuse for not knowing what's in her role PM. Maybe she really hadn't looked, but I don't know Ruu enough to say that, and I think most people would generally look at their role PM.Kit said: Though I find what Ruu is saying hard to believe. I can't truly grasp her alignment from it. What do you think?Rosie had one in our last game, she was TPR serial killer and could day kill. I doubt there would be a daytime use town PR in a basic setup |
wen294 said: In the words a wise man once said, I respect that.Kit said: Yep that's what i do. I usually don't think too much about the why. I'll do that tomorrow. Or at least attempt to.I don't blame you for not liking it, I was honestly wondering why no one called me out until you did. It doesn't seem like you're thinking about why I said it though, just framing it as "this is yucky so Kit must be scum" |
Sollux16 said: logic340 said: In regards to Bunny and Sollux I don't want to get into another cookiecrusher situation with these two new players. I would like us all to engage with them in an effort to help them understand what is going on. @wen294 in no way am I saying to hold their hands and walk them through it, but I was completely lost in my first game until I saw Soren nail scum EoD1 so I can relate. I know new doesn't=town but if they stay lost for too long we wont be able to read them later (See cookie in Fairy Tail game). @Sollux16 and @BunnyEnergizer what are your experiences with mafia? Did you know anything about the game (IRL or Forum) before joining this game? The best advice I can give you is to speak your mind and use our vote as they are every town's best weapons. If you find something strange speak up on it and discuss it with others. If you don't understand what someone is saying or doing ask them about it so you can get a better understanding. They could be lying they could be telling the truth so think about what they would have to gain as either role when reading their responses. In no way should these hints garner me town credit this is just me trying to get you guys more involved. I've heard a little bit about mafia from Gruffin but she never really told me much about how to play. I've also just started playing Town of Salem, which I'm told is similar, on the Town of Salem website about two days ago. As for everyone who is majorly confused about my actions, I apologize, I'll figure out what I'm doing before too long hopefully so please bear with me a little longer. -bows- wen294 said: Just wondering but what made you change votes after like 25 minutes of your last post. Normally a vote change comes directly after a post, or in the same post. The time gap feels kinda weird to me. Just because they played similar to you when you were scum doesn't mean it came from a similar mindset though. Do you know if her mindset in general is somewhat similar to yours? If so then your point has some value i guess. If not then i can't see why your read on her would be much different from neutral. "i just need to be myself" "my true self is scummy" Ruu scum confirmed. Don't like the defeatist attitude here. I do agree that at the very least Soren will probably sort himself out sooner or later anyway. Not sure about Gruffin, don't know her too well. I don't like the way you said this tbh. Unless i'm misunderstanding the term scumhunting is a general term. You hunt for scum, there are no better hunts than scum hunts. Which posts? Thinking about what? So at this point in time the person you scumread the most is someone you don't quite understand. Meaning you don't scumread ANYBODY for ANYTHING at this point in time? Edit: changed on town to in time. As for what is making me slightly question Denja and Jackrito. Denja at the beginning mentioned something about how they are a wolf. From my experiences with ToS over the past few days, wolf kills town. I mean, wolf kills everything but for all I know, they could be a part of mafia here. Someone also mentioned how this is how Denja normally plays. Unfortunately, I don't know how trolly Denja is or isn't so I would like to just keep an eye on them for now. As for Jackrito, their post earlier on page 1 about how "more often than not it's correct when they vote for wen" and then Togs said they could say the same for them. The way Jackrito reacted made me start thinking about them as well. This doesn't necessarily make them scum but it did make it so I'd like to just keep my eye on them as well. I'm going to be spending most of my free time to day going back to reread some stuff and see if I can figure out anything else. In the meantime, I don't like that I'm voting for Soren at the moment so I'm gonna take off my vote completely and vote (with a good reason) later on. I know some of you are gonna question me even more for doing this, but I'm gonna do it anyway. Unvote What exactly about my response made you think giving half answers helps no one, On Denjax what adv as scum do they get with a wolf claim? I'm really interested to see what you come up with in your reread and who you vote. |
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logic340 said: OOPSwen294 said: Do tell me more? What game was this?Surely you jest. You remember shooting Mishu early in the day before giving him a chance to talk or claim or whatever? Because i certainly do. That was Arrisu, not Ruu. My memory has failed me. Ruu wasn't even in the game. Sorry everyone and especially Ruu :S Forget i ever said that. |
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Ruu said: I don't like the way Denja is going after Kit, im thinking that if he is not scum then he could be tpr trying to get Kit lynch. @Kit what do you think? Why are you so fixed on Denjax this game, he seems to be the main person you mention, what does he gain as scum by this play and if tpr with Kit as target, I feel Denjax would be a lot smarter then this don't you |
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Rinto-kun said: I'm back. Gonna go back a little and read. If anything, my main suspects are Jack(he always seems plenty suspicious to me tbh), @DenjaX and @Togs(I expect more from such players like them and not having their opinion on the game is troubling me), Bunny for inactivity. No active person stands out more than the rest, in my opinion people are focusing too much on slight mistakes people make like Soren vs Gruffin from what I see, we should assess this situation more open-mindedly. My vote stays for now as I don't see anything that makes Jack stand out from my previous experiences with him. My vote may vary later in-game, though. Nothing in this post proves to ne you have read the thread, I want examples of the Gruffin situation and other events. I also think Denjax is adding stuff in own way and been semi active so would not bunch them with Togs. Aldo how have you not got any views on actives apart from me that added with this weak ass vote reason on me. I have major issues here. |
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DenjaX said: Ruu said: you have got to be kidding me? Town roles are called Wolves. Town should have known that. If not for my lock Vote Kit, I would have voted you instead. You cant evem determine your own flavour which means you should be scum.denja is messing with us. The wolf role depends on the type of mafia game and flavour. There isn't one in this game You should have done your research first. *fluff* Can somebody do an elaborate terminology on mafia terms. I'm totally lost when you say some things. You don't seem scum, tbh, so I will lower my suspicion on you. |
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logic340 said: @Togs...you and Rinto are in a similar boat with me <_< You had a good start that people liked but no lurk please. I need something I can read you off of and I haven't gotten it from you yet. To borrow from Crossbell "we're not doing this same old song and dance again." I'd like you to get active. @Rinto-kun pretty much the same as above. I'm already told you the regular treatment is out the window. How do you feel about Sollux? Newbie town/Newbiescum? Does anything stand out to you yet? I would class Sollux and Bunny with the two above as the inactive players thus far. His posts appear particularly townish to me. Don't take my word for it but I wouldn't dig him so much. Doesn't stand out that much, but he tries, I guess? |
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Sollux16 said: logic340 said: In regards to Bunny and Sollux I don't want to get into another cookiecrusher situation with these two new players. I would like us all to engage with them in an effort to help them understand what is going on. @wen294 in no way am I saying to hold their hands and walk them through it, but I was completely lost in my first game until I saw Soren nail scum EoD1 so I can relate. I know new doesn't=town but if they stay lost for too long we wont be able to read them later (See cookie in Fairy Tail game). @Sollux16 and @BunnyEnergizer what are your experiences with mafia? Did you know anything about the game (IRL or Forum) before joining this game? The best advice I can give you is to speak your mind and use our vote as they are every town's best weapons. If you find something strange speak up on it and discuss it with others. If you don't understand what someone is saying or doing ask them about it so you can get a better understanding. They could be lying they could be telling the truth so think about what they would have to gain as either role when reading their responses. In no way should these hints garner me town credit this is just me trying to get you guys more involved. I've heard a little bit about mafia from Gruffin but she never really told me much about how to play. I've also just started playing Town of Salem, which I'm told is similar, on the Town of Salem website about two days ago. As for everyone who is majorly confused about my actions, I apologize, I'll figure out what I'm doing before too long hopefully so please bear with me a little longer. -bows- wen294 said: Just wondering but what made you change votes after like 25 minutes of your last post. Normally a vote change comes directly after a post, or in the same post. The time gap feels kinda weird to me. Just because they played similar to you when you were scum doesn't mean it came from a similar mindset though. Do you know if her mindset in general is somewhat similar to yours? If so then your point has some value i guess. If not then i can't see why your read on her would be much different from neutral. "i just need to be myself" "my true self is scummy" Ruu scum confirmed. Don't like the defeatist attitude here. I do agree that at the very least Soren will probably sort himself out sooner or later anyway. Not sure about Gruffin, don't know her too well. I don't like the way you said this tbh. Unless i'm misunderstanding the term scumhunting is a general term. You hunt for scum, there are no better hunts than scum hunts. Which posts? Thinking about what? So at this point in time the person you scumread the most is someone you don't quite understand. Meaning you don't scumread ANYBODY for ANYTHING at this point in time? Edit: changed on town to in time. As for what is making me slightly question Denja and Jackrito. Denja at the beginning mentioned something about how they are a wolf. From my experiences with ToS over the past few days, wolf kills town. I mean, wolf kills everything but for all I know, they could be a part of mafia here. Someone also mentioned how this is how Denja normally plays. Unfortunately, I don't know how trolly Denja is or isn't so I would like to just keep an eye on them for now. As for Jackrito, their post earlier on page 1 about how "more often than not it's correct when they vote for wen" and then Togs said they could say the same for them. The way Jackrito reacted made me start thinking about them as well. This doesn't necessarily make them scum but it did make it so I'd like to just keep my eye on them as well. I'm going to be spending most of my free time to day going back to reread some stuff and see if I can figure out anything else. In the meantime, I don't like that I'm voting for Soren at the moment so I'm gonna take off my vote completely and vote (with a good reason) later on. I know some of you are gonna question me even more for doing this, but I'm gonna do it anyway. Unvote ToS is a good starting point for you, but forum mafia is much much bigger because you have to assess a great amount of posts and figure out everything much slower than ToS where it's sped up and people make mistakes more occasionally. Try to analyze the posts and find your own style of play. |
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Jackrito said: Rinto-kun said: I'm back. Gonna go back a little and read. If anything, my main suspects are Jack(he always seems plenty suspicious to me tbh), @DenjaX and @Togs(I expect more from such players like them and not having their opinion on the game is troubling me), Bunny for inactivity. No active person stands out more than the rest, in my opinion people are focusing too much on slight mistakes people make like Soren vs Gruffin from what I see, we should assess this situation more open-mindedly. My vote stays for now as I don't see anything that makes Jack stand out from my previous experiences with him. My vote may vary later in-game, though. Nothing in this post proves to ne you have read the thread, I want examples of the Gruffin situation and other events. I also think Denjax is adding stuff in own way and been semi active so would not bunch them with Togs. Aldo how have you not got any views on actives apart from me that added with this weak ass vote reason on me. I have major issues here. It's too hard for me to keep track of posts and/or comment on them so I often don't try to. My reads are basically formless and often based on my impressions as I read their interactions. I'm usually only posting reads because people often ask for them, but I'm usually more closed and rarely talkative. |
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Rinto-kun said: Is there something specific that feels townish that you would like to point out? Or is this a gut feel type of thing? logic340 said: @Togs...you and Rinto are in a similar boat with me <_< You had a good start that people liked but no lurk please. I need something I can read you off of and I haven't gotten it from you yet. To borrow from Crossbell "we're not doing this same old song and dance again." I'd like you to get active. @Rinto-kun pretty much the same as above. I'm already told you the regular treatment is out the window. How do you feel about Sollux? Newbie town/Newbiescum? Does anything stand out to you yet? I would class Sollux and Bunny with the two above as the inactive players thus far. His posts appear particularly townish to me. Don't take my word for it but I wouldn't dig him so much. Doesn't stand out that much, but he tries, I guess? Rinto-kun said: Typical Rinto which isn't going to save you from suspicion like it once used to. I love how you always call out others of inactivity while being inactive to passive yourself. What more do you expect from Togs and Denja? I expect a little more from you as well since you mentioned clearing your record. How do you plan on going about doing that?I'm back. Gonna go back a little and read. If anything, my main suspects are Jack(he always seems plenty suspicious to me tbh), @DenjaX and @Togs(I expect more from such players like them and not having their opinion on the game is troubling me), Bunny for inactivity. No active person stands out more than the rest, in my opinion people are focusing too much on slight mistakes people make like Soren vs Gruffin from what I see, we should assess this situation more open-mindedly. My vote stays for now as I don't see anything that makes Jack stand out from my previous experiences with him. My vote may vary later in-game, though. |
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Jackrito said: I do too....sighThe pace in this game has died a bit and the absence of a couple of people is bothering me mainly Rinto and Togs no shocker with them two though and NA. My bigger issue is with Soren and Gruffin lack of influence today so far for two people who even brought in a scum hunting game they are lacking in the hunting. Sigh how I keep on ending back up on them. I have looked at this and I feel like it could be t/t. I see both sides with Soren and his early follow through was better than I had given credit for. Gruffin and him still seem to be weirdly fixated on one another and I'm wondering how fair it is to expect them to perform but they did put the onus on themselves. |
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logic340 said: Rinto-kun said: Is there something specific that feels townish that you would like to point out? Or is this a gut feel type of thing? His posts appear particularly townish to me. Don't take my word for it but I wouldn't dig him so much. Doesn't stand out that much, but he tries, I guess? Rinto-kun said: Typical Rinto which isn't going to save you from suspicion like it once used to. I love how you always call out others of inactivity while being inactive to passive yourself. What more do you expect from Togs and Denja? I expect a little more from you as well since you mentioned clearing your record. How do you plan on going about doing that?I'm back. Gonna go back a little and read. If anything, my main suspects are Jack(he always seems plenty suspicious to me tbh), @DenjaX and @Togs(I expect more from such players like them and not having their opinion on the game is troubling me), Bunny for inactivity. No active person stands out more than the rest, in my opinion people are focusing too much on slight mistakes people make like Soren vs Gruffin from what I see, we should assess this situation more open-mindedly. My vote stays for now as I don't see anything that makes Jack stand out from my previous experiences with him. My vote may vary later in-game, though. My plan was generally returning to my main state. As mafia I usually take the easier approach and become more passive and lurk more. Are you going to drop your rng vote on me or you have formed suspicions on me? Who else would you vote right now? On a side note, I know it's ironical to call out inactive ones when I myself am inactive, but I know I'm town so I don't bother asking for more activity of some players. |
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logic340 said: To be fair to Gruffin, Soren is the one that put it on her and it would be hard to refuse something like that so I can't blame her too much for not following through, especially if she's not feeling wellJackrito said: I do too....sighThe pace in this game has died a bit and the absence of a couple of people is bothering me mainly Rinto and Togs no shocker with them two though and NA. My bigger issue is with Soren and Gruffin lack of influence today so far for two people who even brought in a scum hunting game they are lacking in the hunting. Sigh how I keep on ending back up on them. I have looked at this and I feel like it could be t/t. I see both sides with Soren and his early follow through was better than I had given credit for. Gruffin and him still seem to be weirdly fixated on one another and I'm wondering how fair it is to expect them to perform but they did put the onus on themselves. |
Rinto-kun said: You always press inactives it's not a tell anymore. I like town Rinto better...logic340 said: Is there something specific that feels townish that you would like to point out? Or is this a gut feel type of thing? Typical Rinto which isn't going to save you from suspicion like it once used to. I love how you always call out others of inactivity while being inactive to passive yourself. What more do you expect from Togs and Denja? I expect a little more from you as well since you mentioned clearing your record. How do you plan on going about doing that? My plan was generally returning to my main state. As mafia I usually take the easier approach and become more passive and lurk more. Are you going to drop your rng vote on me or you have formed suspicions on me? Who else would you vote right now? On a side note, I know it's ironical to call out inactive ones when I myself am inactive, but I know I'm town so I don't bother asking for more activity of some players. I am somewhat suspicious of you and with good reason. I like recent activity by you but I feel like I pulled you into. I need to see more of your own thoughs without being prodded the status quo doesn't work anymore. I'll be keeping an eye on you as I really like working with town Rinto. As for who else I would vote for right now, Togs is in the same boat as you, he's not getting an easy pass from me. Ruu due to suspicions stated throughout the thread, and Bunny due to activity (see Disgaea) though admittedly I don't like lynching for activity. On that note lets move to.... Vote: @Ruu Admitedly never been good at reading you and I gave you a hint. The "I'm town" is still heavy but I have reservations about you actually being scum but enough suspicion to put this vote here. |
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Kit said: I was just thinking about this. I honestly feel more t/t on that situation today than I did originally. logic340 said: To be fair to Gruffin, Soren is the one that put it on her and it would be hard to refuse something like that so I can't blame her too much for not following through, especially if she's not feeling wellI do too....sigh I have looked at this and I feel like it could be t/t. I see both sides with Soren and his early follow through was better than I had given credit for. Gruffin and him still seem to be weirdly fixated on one another and I'm wondering how fair it is to expect them to perform but they did put the onus on themselves. Gruffin - Something does feel off but I can't say it's in a scummy way. She not the type to lie about irl so I'm not worried about her trying to fool us like that since she is very competent as scum. This is where I run into a problem with trying to read her as scum because as scum I can see her running with the scum hunting challenge on. As you stated it's hard to turn this down but I feel they pressured themselves. So I ask myself, is it right for me to put the burden of prophecy on them for making /agreeing to this bet? No, I don't think it is? Soren - Things felt off about his early game and kind of still do but I can see both a town and scum mindset for the scum hunt play. As scum I surely wouldn't call it an easy pocket attempt. Based on what I have written below it's not completely out of the realm of possibility but I think it's less likely as scum because he'll a) have to fake it really hard and if he doesn't face the lynch or b) lynch off one of his teammates to actually get the heat off of himself. I've never seen scum Soren so idk if he's that ballsy as scum (seems unlikely). Town Soren makes interesting early plays (which have been hard for me to read), he is cunning and thinks about what he is doing (similar to Denja but more into behavior), I could see this as a play to draw in people so he could read them and it helped get us out of RVS. |
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Kit said: logic340 said: To be fair to Gruffin, Soren is the one that put it on her and it would be hard to refuse something like that so I can't blame her too much for not following through, especially if she's not feeling wellI do too....sigh I have looked at this and I feel like it could be t/t. I see both sides with Soren and his early follow through was better than I had given credit for. Gruffin and him still seem to be weirdly fixated on one another and I'm wondering how fair it is to expect them to perform but they did put the onus on themselves. I would agree with that, it is more Soren I have issue with at the moment. I'm willing to give Gruffin some room with the illness thing. The more I think about it I can see the town view on both, but the lack of backing it up and Soren's vote on me still for no reason is bothering me added with him saying he did the game idea because he always does which I know is false and it would make him play better yet again it is clearly not. It just makes me doubt him a lot and I'm now stuck on that one thing. The next thing after that would be Rosie and Ruu but both I'm not feeling any confidence in since both are been a bit weird rather then scummy. I could see myself moving there at some point, I have issues with others as well like the inactives and new people I just feel this game is in a strange state. |
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logic340 said: Rinto-kun said: You always press inactives it's not a tell anymore. I like town Rinto better...My plan was generally returning to my main state. As mafia I usually take the easier approach and become more passive and lurk more. Are you going to drop your rng vote on me or you have formed suspicions on me? Who else would you vote right now? On a side note, I know it's ironical to call out inactive ones when I myself am inactive, but I know I'm town so I don't bother asking for more activity of some players. I am somewhat suspicious of you and with good reason. I like recent activity by you but I feel like I pulled you into. I need to see more of your own thoughs without being prodded the status quo doesn't work anymore. I'll be keeping an eye on you as I really like working with town Rinto. As for who else I would vote for right now, Togs is in the same boat as you, he's not getting an easy pass from me. Ruu due to suspicions stated throughout the thread, and Bunny due to activity (see Disgaea) though admittedly I don't like lynching for activity. On that note lets move to.... Vote: @Ruu Admitedly never been good at reading you and I gave you a hint. The "I'm town" is still heavy but I have reservations about you actually being scum but enough suspicion to put this vote here. Just wondering here you say I like town Rinto better this implies they are not town si why not vote them. I don't even think their recent activity is that good. |
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Kit said: I don't like how defensive it is but I can understand frustration with the way wen responded to her. I didn't respond like that but newbie scum to me was Gruffin, so my idea/impression of newbie scum is probably skewed. All we can do it try to find ways to get her involved so we can figure out their alignment and voting is one of those ways. They have not voted which is and isn't concerning. Is because I have seen scum not vote, isn't because I have seen lost town not vote. I get a cookie vibe from both Sollux and Bunny would you not agree? Not enough to say either way imo.BunnyEnergizer said: Sounds like you don't want people figuring out you are scum?Well goddammit then. I have no idea how to play, lol if some people say that what im saying is useless, then please enlighten me. If you cant then dont say anything xd and you have no information whether im townie or mafia or wutev that is called now. So ya cant make assumptions without no reason either. Vote: Bunny Here, I will help you a bit with some guided questions. Why do you think Soren made a bet with Gruffin? Does Rosie's focus on Soren/Gruffin seem like it is coming from scum agenda? What do you think Denja is doing? What do you think of the votes on Gruffin? Just some things off that top of my head that I remember have been debated in this thread. You can say your thoughts on anything you want without people having to ask you. |
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logic340 said: Rinto-kun said: You always press inactives it's not a tell anymore. I like town Rinto better...My plan was generally returning to my main state. As mafia I usually take the easier approach and become more passive and lurk more. Are you going to drop your rng vote on me or you have formed suspicions on me? Who else would you vote right now? On a side note, I know it's ironical to call out inactive ones when I myself am inactive, but I know I'm town so I don't bother asking for more activity of some players. I am somewhat suspicious of you and with good reason. I like recent activity by you but I feel like I pulled you into. I need to see more of your own thoughs without being prodded the status quo doesn't work anymore. I'll be keeping an eye on you as I really like working with town Rinto. As for who else I would vote for right now, Togs is in the same boat as you, he's not getting an easy pass from me. Ruu due to suspicions stated throughout the thread, and Bunny due to activity (see Disgaea) though admittedly I don't like lynching for activity. On that note lets move to.... Vote: @Ruu Admitedly never been good at reading you and I gave you a hint. The "I'm town" is still heavy but I have reservations about you actually being scum but enough suspicion to put this vote here. I also like working with town!logic(was there ever mafia!logic?) Good reasoning to vote on Ruu, I also want to see more from her, most of her posts appear more like fluff to me. |
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Jackrito said: I just moved my RVS vote from Rinto. I knew I should have prefaced that with a (). It's a joke Rinto should pick up on because he said that to me in FT when everyone was scum reading me. He was scum there and plays pretty much the same way regardless (2 town and 2 mafia games). I like town Rinto better since I have been playing with scum Rinto and I am hoping that's who I got this time around. Still neutral here not going to show him the leniency I usually do though.logic340 said: You always press inactives it's not a tell anymore. I like town Rinto better... I am somewhat suspicious of you and with good reason. I like recent activity by you but I feel like I pulled you into. I need to see more of your own thoughs without being prodded the status quo doesn't work anymore. I'll be keeping an eye on you as I really like working with town Rinto. As for who else I would vote for right now, Togs is in the same boat as you, he's not getting an easy pass from me. Ruu due to suspicions stated throughout the thread, and Bunny due to activity (see Disgaea) though admittedly I don't like lynching for activity. On that note lets move to.... Vote: @Ruu Admitedly never been good at reading you and I gave you a hint. The "I'm town" is still heavy but I have reservations about you actually being scum but enough suspicion to put this vote here. Just wondering here you say I like town Rinto better this implies they are not town si why not vote them. I don't even think their recent activity is that good. |
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logic340 said: I'm feeling the same about this, it feels too fishy. It doesn't make sense to not look at your role pm properly.Ruu said: I'm calling shenanigans on this one. Not only do I support what Kit said about you complaining about being Vanilla all the time. Role information is kind of important in deciding how your going to approach things to my understanding. Did your PM really say SCUM?? Little details like this make a difference when trying to decide if you are mafia or town. It's over the top and I have to ask myself where it's coming form and what's the motivation?I never do. No matter my alignment. I just look for the word town/scum and then I'm off to the game thread. I have no problem if you want to come after me. I'm town so I have nothing to fear really... Ruu said: The thing is, when I look at my role pm, the first thing that I want to find out is my alignment so I would look for that first too. The problem is that I don't know where in the role pm that it is stated, leading me to scan through other parts of my role pm, leading me to find out about certain other things about my role before actually finding my alignment. Are you telling me that when you check for your alignment the only thing you can actually identify in your role pm is your alignment and nothing else? That's really hard when you don't know where to look for your alignment. Surely you would notice other parts of your role pm, especially when everything is right there next to each other. You don't just see the word town with everything else blurred out.DenjaX said: On a serious note, I cant believe you never checked your role PM when you received it. How hard is that? I bet you just jumped to your scum club invite right away. Big mistake saying that I am trolling. I used people's meta on me to my advantage. Edit: put images in spoiler tag I never do. No matter my alignment. I just look for the word town/scum and then I'm off to the game thread. I have no problem if you want to come after me. I'm town so I have nothing to fear really... I also see what denja is trying to do, and you're fumbling a lot. |
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logic340 said: Jackrito said: I just moved my RVS vote from Rinto. I knew I should have prefaced that with a (). It's a joke Rinto should pick up on because he said that to me in FT when everyone was scum reading me. He was scum there and plays pretty much the same way regardless (2 town and 2 mafia games). I like town Rinto better since I have been playing with scum Rinto and I am hoping that's who I got this time around. Still neutral here not going to show him the leniency I usually do though.Just wondering here you say I like town Rinto better this implies they are not town si why not vote them. I don't even think their recent activity is that good. Tbh, my scum play is pretty bad, it shouldn't be hard to notice, I was wondering why nobody picked up on me for more than 2 days. |
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Soren said: logic340 said: I'm feeling the same about this, it feels too fishy. It doesn't make sense to not look at your role pm properly.I'm calling shenanigans on this one. Not only do I support what Kit said about you complaining about being Vanilla all the time. Role information is kind of important in deciding how your going to approach things to my understanding. Did your PM really say SCUM?? Little details like this make a difference when trying to decide if you are mafia or town. It's over the top and I have to ask myself where it's coming form and what's the motivation? Ruu said: The thing is, when I look at my role pm, the first thing that I want to find out is my alignment so I would look for that first too. The problem is that I don't know where in the role pm that it is stated, leading me to scan through other parts of my role pm, leading me to find out about certain other things about my role before actually finding my alignment. Are you telling me that when you check for your alignment the only thing you can actually identify in your role pm is your alignment and nothing else? That's really hard when you don't know where to look for your alignment. Surely you would notice other parts of your role pm, especially when everything is right there next to each other. You don't just see the word town with everything else blurred out.I never do. No matter my alignment. I just look for the word town/scum and then I'm off to the game thread. I have no problem if you want to come after me. I'm town so I have nothing to fear really... I also see what denja is trying to do, and you're fumbling a lot. They is a answer to this that I want to say but I'm not giving them a free way out of it. If they are town it should be easy. |
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Jackrito said: Same, waiting to see how she responds.Soren said: I'm feeling the same about this, it feels too fishy. It doesn't make sense to not look at your role pm properly. The thing is, when I look at my role pm, the first thing that I want to find out is my alignment so I would look for that first too. The problem is that I don't know where in the role pm that it is stated, leading me to scan through other parts of my role pm, leading me to find out about certain other things about my role before actually finding my alignment. Are you telling me that when you check for your alignment the only thing you can actually identify in your role pm is your alignment and nothing else? That's really hard when you don't know where to look for your alignment. Surely you would notice other parts of your role pm, especially when everything is right there next to each other. You don't just see the word town with everything else blurred out. I also see what denja is trying to do, and you're fumbling a lot. They is a answer to this that I want to say but I'm not giving them a free way out of it. If they are town it should be easy. |
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Rinto-kun said: hindsight is 20/20. I did finally catch it do we'll see what this game brings. What do you think of Ruu and not just the stuff with Denja but early game too?logic340 said: I just moved my RVS vote from Rinto. I knew I should have prefaced that with a (). It's a joke Rinto should pick up on because he said that to me in FT when everyone was scum reading me. He was scum there and plays pretty much the same way regardless (2 town and 2 mafia games). I like town Rinto better since I have been playing with scum Rinto and I am hoping that's who I got this time around. Still neutral here not going to show him the leniency I usually do though. Tbh, my scum play is pretty bad, it shouldn't be hard to notice, I was wondering why nobody picked up on me for more than 2 days. |
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Kit said: Logic tends to appear more townie as the game progresses, its still only day 1 here. Like in haruhi he changed his playstyle a little bit and I felt off about him from the start, but then he became more townie later on. So I'm not too worried about logic atm, I will be later on if he doesn't appear more townie though.It bothers me that I don't quite feel that Logic is town yet when he is usually clearly town, but I think he may be trying that "laying low and letting things progress" thing Gruffin talked about in FT? @Gruffin what do you think about Logic so far? (asking gruff cause we both played a lot with logic but anyone can answer) I think he is kind of under the radar, I'd feel more comfortable if I could town clear him as usual, hmm.. |
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Kit said: Jackrito said: Not surprised in a game with Denja in itI can't believe scumhunting has came to PM analysis though I hate this tactic. Fair point lol, as game manager I felt so edgy though since it is cheap but not game breaking. Ruu did set them self up for this though. |
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