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ryzxgum said:
@CocoJaypee her gimmick is just martial arts, that's all, which is the weakest in the series and there's nothing more you can do with that. more sure what kinda poorly written power creep you're expecting on her.

are you mentally ill? please seek help, desperately. lu doesn't have nearly as much focus as shin.

Weakest in the series???? Again, that all boils down to good writing, and in this case, her character is just an example of wasted potential
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@CocoJaypee If you are sad that her character is underutilized and ignored, that's one thing and it is a valid concern. But with the way you are acting in the entire thread, putting so much emphasis on her being ignored as a female instead of just as a normal character,you are falsely attacking the author for sexism, so obviously people are going to get mad. As someone else said, stop fueling needless gender wars.

Well, going back to what I said, battle shounens are notorious for not developing their female characters so excuuuuuse me if I'm trying to insert a little bit of politics here
@CocoJaypee You are not excused lil bro, it's sad that you have to resort to posting rage bait online to get attention. Praying for you 🙏
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DarkCentauri said:
@CocoJaypee You are not excused lil bro, it's sad that you have to resort to posting rage bait online to get attention. Praying for you 🙏

okay, so sad for you too that you're just satisfied with Lu's character in the series that could've been much more 🤣
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ryzxgum said:
@CocoJaypee her gimmick is just martial arts, that's all, which is the weakest in the series and there's nothing more you can do with that. more sure what kinda poorly written power creep you're expecting on her.

are you mentally ill? please seek help, desperately. lu doesn't have nearly as much focus as shin.

Weakest in the series???? Again, that all boils down to good writing, and in this case, her character is just an example of wasted potential
@CocoJaypee did i stutter or is your reading comprehension failing you again? it boils down to your lack of braincells. please get educated before talking about what you don't understand.
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ryzxgum said:
@CocoJaypee did i stutter or is your reading comprehension failing you again? it boils down to your lack of braincells. please get educated before talking about what you don't understand.

it all boils down to your ignorance and lack of desire to have good female characters in this show
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@CocoJaypee did i stutter or is your reading comprehension failing you again? it boils down to your lack of braincells. please get educated before talking about what you don't understand.

it all boils down to your ignorance and lack of desire to have good female characters in this show
@CocoJaypee it boils down to your agendas getting thrown out the window boohoo. all the other female characters yet to show up in the show are better than her, but your uneducated ass is speaking on the cast based off a few episodes lol actual skill issue.
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ryzxgum said:
@CocoJaypee it boils down to your agendas getting thrown out the window boohoo. all the other female characters yet to show up in the show are better than her, but your uneducated ass is speaking on the cast based off a few episodes lol actual skill issue.

"Better than her"

So you agree, Lu has been written badly and should've been developed more?

You don't find it weird that other female side characters that were introduced later on have been developed better than the one who has been part of the main cast since the start of the show?

Okay
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@CocoJaypee it boils down to your agendas getting thrown out the window boohoo. all the other female characters yet to show up in the show are better than her, but your uneducated ass is speaking on the cast based off a few episodes lol actual skill issue.

"Better than her"

So you agree, Lu has been written badly and should've been developed more?

You don't find it weird that other female side characters that were introduced later on have been developed better than the one who has been part of the main cast since the start of the show?

Okay
@CocoJaypee nah i don't think we need to see more of her, i'd rather see the others more.

what's weird is that you've never seen this happen before, watch more anime. lu never had much potential and she was used to the best of what little she had, only enough to be a side character.
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ryzxgum said:
@CocoJaypee nah i don't think we need to see more of her, i'd rather see the others more.

what's weird is that you've never seen this happen before, watch more anime. lu never had much potential and she was used to the best of what little she had, only enough to be a side character.

Well that's it. You just admitted that you were biased against Lu from the start and never wanted anything more from her

On the contrary, I want something more out of her being the only female fighter in Sakamoto's group so far and you're over here acting as if that's a bad thing
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ryzxgum said:
@CocoJaypee nah i don't think we need to see more of her, i'd rather see the others more.

what's weird is that you've never seen this happen before, watch more anime. lu never had much potential and she was used to the best of what little she had, only enough to be a side character.

Well that's it. You just admitted that you were biased against Lu from the start and never wanted anything more from her

On the contrary, I want something more out of her being the only female fighter in Sakamoto's group so far and you're over here acting as if that's a bad thing
@CocoJaypee nothing to be biased against, her ceiling was just short. it's not about what i want or don't, i'm looking at things objectively. i don't care about her being the only female fighter, like i said, being male or female is irrelevant and only her potential as a character matters to me. take that crying over gender representation bs back to twitter.
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ryzxgum said:
@CocoJaypee nothing to be biased against, her ceiling was just short. it's not about what i want or don't, i'm looking at things objectively. i don't care about her being the only female fighter, like i said, being male or female is irrelevant and only her potential as a character matters to me. take that crying over gender representation bs back to twitter.

nope, i dont want to hear anything more from someone who just settles for poorly written female characters in a target market that has long been criticized for underutilizing female characters
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@CocoJaypee nothing to be biased against, her ceiling was just short. it's not about what i want or don't, i'm looking at things objectively. i don't care about her being the only female fighter, like i said, being male or female is irrelevant and only her potential as a character matters to me. take that crying over gender representation bs back to twitter.

nope, i dont want to hear anything more from someone who just settles for poorly written female characters in a target market that has long been criticized for underutilizing female characters
@CocoJaypee nah, just that everyone with enough braincells don't care about her being the only female fighter in the group, you're challenged and you know it, and no one wants to do that female power fantasy representation bs for you here boohoo.
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ryzxgum said:
@CocoJaypee nah, just that everyone with enough braincells don't care about her being the only female fighter in the group, you're challenged and you know it, and no one wants to do that female power fantasy representation bs for you here boohoo.

nope, i dont want to hear anything more from someone who just settles for poorly written female characters in a target market that has long been criticized for underutilizing female characters
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ejleon said:
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Side character yet she tags along on every scene so far...

Gurl Nagumo is a side character, Lu is not. At least, for these first few arcs

Does this mean Shin is a side character as well? If so, how come he gets more fleshed out when Lu also has some decent fighting capabilities?

As for Aoi and Hana, they are not fighters, so it's only logical that they're going to be sidelined in the fight scenes because they wont contribute anything

But Lu can so how come she isn't getting highlighted

I can’t believe you read and responded to my comment, didn’t expect that. 😂

All the other characters are “side charterers”, they are not the main character.

Will you just honestly admit that you just like Lu, so you want her to have more front time in the anime.

Yes I honestly like Lu and would love for the story to utilize her more, is that a problem?

If all the characters are side characters except Sakamoto, how come Shin is getting more fleshed out when he and Lu are equally Sakamoto's allies in helping him fight against assassins?
@CocoJaypee No, not at all, I like Lu as well.

if that is what you want, then say it and don't hold back, that is what the forum discussions are for.

I'll fully support your personal opinion to have a side character have more time.
That's actually quite unique in my experience in the forums so far, at this point.

Hm.... Shin reads minds, both the Male MC's, Lu's, and everyone else's, except the MC's wife 😅, that is literally the only reason why he has had more screen time, his ability can be used more often in the story for comedy and serious moments.

Lu's is a great character, I agree, so I'll root for more screen time too. 😁
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

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ryzxgum said:
@CocoJaypee nah, just that everyone with enough braincells don't care about her being the only female fighter in the group, you're challenged and you know it, and no one wants to do that female power fantasy representation bs for you here boohoo.

nope, i dont want to hear anything more from someone who just settles for poorly written female characters in a target market that has long been criticized for underutilizing female characters
@CocoJaypee yep, typical twitter mental illness at it's finest. i'm done with this thread now because you've just proven my point that you're a mindless repetitive echo chamber, thanks for the help. 👍

and the empty vessel below continues to be an empty vessel for eternity lol keep proving me right.
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ryzxgum said:
@CocoJaypee yep, typical twitter mental illness at it's finest. i'm done with this thread now because you've just proven my point that you're a mindless repetitive echo chamber, thanks for the help. 👍

nope, i dont want to hear anything more from someone who just settles for poorly written female characters in a target market that has long been criticized for underutilizing female characters
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ejleon said:
@CocoJaypee No, not at all, I like Lu as well.

if that is what you want, then say it and don't hold back, that is what the forum discussions are for.

I'll fully support your personal opinion to have a side character have more time.
That's actually quite unique in my experience in the forums so far, at this point.

Hm.... Shin reads minds, both the Male MC's, Lu's, and everyone else's, except the MC's wife 😅, that is literally the only reason why he has had more screen time, his ability can be used more often in the story for comedy and serious moments.

Lu's is a great character, I agree, so I'll root for more screen time too. 😁

Wow, thank you! That's such a nice comment
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Lu does kinda disappear, and new (arguably better) characters are introduced.
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Well....since there are two characters listed as "Main characters" and they're both male, I say shes sidelined from the start :)


Don't make stuff up.
Show isn't about Lu is all ^^ There are plenty of female Leads in Anime, if you want that. Sakamoto just isn't one of these Anime xD and that's fine
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Merve2Love said:
Well....since there are two characters listed as "Main characters" and they're both male, I say shes sidelined from the start :)


Don't make stuff up.
Show isn't about Lu is all ^^ There are plenty of female Leads in Anime, if you want that. Sakamoto just isn't one of these Anime xD and that's fine

Main or not she's still part of the main cast right? You're telling me that between her, Sakamoto, and Shin, she's the one who's underdeveloped? The female character in a male dominated show?
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Merve2Love said:
Well....since there are two characters listed as "Main characters" and they're both male, I say shes sidelined from the start :)


Don't make stuff up.
Show isn't about Lu is all ^^ There are plenty of female Leads in Anime, if you want that. Sakamoto just isn't one of these Anime xD and that's fine

Main or not she's still part of the main cast right? You're telling me that between her, Sakamoto, and Shin, she's the one who's underdeveloped? The female character in a male dominated show?
@CocoJaypee


Yes....the lead, who's male, will dominate the Show xD

I know it's crazy....
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Anime should of removed her, she's the most boring unoriginal character even the manga didn't manage to make her interesting and her whole storyline got resolved in the episode she got introduced in. It is baffling that they didn't cut out her ''Killing your enemies is bad so I'm gonna let this obviously evil man who ruined my life and is going to try to kill me again live'' speech. It's so out of place for the manga and anime and then Sakamoto agrees with her and thinks about killing Shin for wanting to kill the guy. The author was probably drunk when writing her character and the chapters she's in, explaining why her quirk is being drunk.

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Merve2Love said:
@CocoJaypee


Yes....the lead, who's male, will dominate the Show xD

I know it's crazy....

Well then I guess Sakamoto Days is another shounen anime that fell into the pitfall of underutilizing their female characters 🤷
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AnimeGirlGusher said:
Anime should of removed her, she's the most boring unoriginal character even the manga didn't manage to make her interesting and her whole storyline got resolved in the episode she got introduced in. It is baffling that they didn't cut out her ''Killing your enemies is bad so I'm gonna let this obviously evil man who ruined my life and is going to try to kill me again live'' speech. It's so out of place for the manga and anime and then Sakamoto agrees with her and thinks about killing Shin for wanting to kill the guy. The author was probably drunk when writing her character and the chapters she's in, explaining why her quirk is being drunk.


Lol the author didn't do a good job of writing her
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Merve2Love said:
@CocoJaypee


Yes....the lead, who's male, will dominate the Show xD

I know it's crazy....

Well then I guess Sakamoto Days is another shounen anime that fell into the pitfall of underutilizing their female characters 🤷
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Exactly.
It's Shonen-Anime.
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Merve2Love said:
@CocoJaypee


Exactly.
It's Shonen-Anime.

Yeah but there are some shounen anime that managed to succeed with this. I just wish Sakamoto Days was the same
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Sidelined? Yeah, but I'll take it over her only function in the story to be sexy all the time while being sidelined like other shounen
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Why do they necessarily have to be front lined?
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baymaxemon said:
Why do they necessarily have to be front lined?

Well battle shounen animes have a long history of not developing their female characters very well, so I want Sakamoto Days to avoid that by having Lu, the only female fighter in Sakamoto's group, take on an active role in the scenes she's in. Particularly during the fight scenes, which are the focal point of the show

Instead, she was sidelined into a mere cheerleader instead of participating in the paint ball tournament
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@CocoJaypee Shin seems to have more screen time because of how his mind reading ability is used to make the show more special.

Well I'd argue that Lu can also make the fight scenes interesting thanks to her drunken martial arts fighting style

But the one time she used the skill so far only lasted a few minutes, while Shin had a whole episode to his fight. That's a little suspicious don't you think?

Hold on a minute, double standard! Don’t you remember we just had an episode with Sakamoto and Lu fighting while Shin just lay strapped to a table? If you love Lu that much (and I do btw) write some fanfic with her as main! I’m sure there’s already lots of doujin about her, but I don’t need that and don’t want to know…
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FutoiOtaku said:
CocoJaypee said:

Well I'd argue that Lu can also make the fight scenes interesting thanks to her drunken martial arts fighting style

But the one time she used the skill so far only lasted a few minutes, while Shin had a whole episode to his fight. That's a little suspicious don't you think?

Hold on a minute, double standard! Don’t you remember we just had an episode with Sakamoto and Lu fighting while Shin just lay strapped to a table? If you love Lu that much (and I do btw) write some fanfic with her as main! I’m sure there’s already lots of doujin about her, but I don’t need that and don’t want to know…

Yes that's exactly the scene I'm talking about. Her fight only lasted a few minutes while Shin had a whole episode to his fight with that poison guy

Granted she did save Shin, but how come she didn't get the same treatment as Shin as to how her fight played out?
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I’m out, your a brick wall of repetition. It’s not Wonder Woman or captain marvel. Not every show has to highlight female supremacy. Same as the real world. It’s a meritocracy based anime, hence Sakamoto is ONLY main and every other character is not. Bye, I’m done.
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Exactly.
It's Shonen-Anime.

Yeah but there are some shounen anime that managed to succeed with this. I just wish Sakamoto Days was the same
@CocoJaypee I doubt the writer even attempted to do this, it might have crippled the work to implement a gender quota for equal screen time.
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FutoiOtaku said:
CocoJaypee said:

Well I'd argue that Lu can also make the fight scenes interesting thanks to her drunken martial arts fighting style

But the one time she used the skill so far only lasted a few minutes, while Shin had a whole episode to his fight. That's a little suspicious don't you think?

Hold on a minute, double standard! Don’t you remember we just had an episode with Sakamoto and Lu fighting while Shin just lay strapped to a table? If you love Lu that much (and I do btw) write some fanfic with her as main! I’m sure there’s already lots of doujin about her, but I don’t need that and don’t want to know…

Yes that's exactly the scene I'm talking about. Her fight only lasted a few minutes while Shin had a whole episode to his fight with that poison guy

Granted she did save Shin, but how come she didn't get the same treatment as Shin as to how her fight played out?
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Yes that's exactly the scene I'm talking about. Her fight only lasted a few minutes while Shin had a whole episode to his fight with that poison guy
That was not even half a episode.
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FutoiOtaku said:
I’m out, your a brick wall of repetition. It’s not Wonder Woman or captain marvel. Not every show has to highlight female supremacy. Same as the real world. It’s a meritocracy based anime, hence Sakamoto is ONLY main and every other character is not. Bye, I’m done.

Gurl battle shounens are notorious for rarely having ANY kind of female supremacy

So if you're going to make a battle shounen and only have one female fighter in the main cast, and NOT develop her properly, I think we're going to have an issue here
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While i also think it might be the case (based on knowing how most shonens work) i think she is fillfilng the part of the Female side lead well without lossing her personality to the role of her character. and so far there's been only 6 ep, so who knows
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BlindSwordmaster said:
CocoJaypee said:
Yes that's exactly the scene I'm talking about. Her fight only lasted a few minutes while Shin had a whole episode to his fight with that poison guy
That was not even half a episode.

Nevertheless Shin still had a more detailed and exciting fight with the poison guy and even had a little bit of character development along the way, whereas Lu's fight....
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CocoJaypee said:
Yes that's exactly the scene I'm talking about. Her fight only lasted a few minutes while Shin had a whole episode to his fight with that poison guy
That was not even half a episode.

Nevertheless Shin still had a more detailed and exciting fight with the poison guy and even had a little bit of character development along the way, whereas Lu's fight....
CocoJaypee said:
Nevertheless Shin still had a more detailed and exciting fight with the poison guy and even had a little bit of character development along the way, whereas Lu's fight....
Shin is the deuteragonost, Lu is not. Also the whole 5th episode was a mess cause of production issues - 23 studios were involveed.
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BlindSwordmaster said:
CocoJaypee said:
Nevertheless Shin still had a more detailed and exciting fight with the poison guy and even had a little bit of character development along the way, whereas Lu's fight....
Shin is the deuteragonost, Lu is not. Also the whole 5th episode was a mess cause of production issues - 23 studios were involveed.

I don't think that's a good reason for Lu having shorter and less exciting fights when she shares the same goal as Shin in helping Sakamoto fight against assassins
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CocoJaypee said:
Nevertheless Shin still had a more detailed and exciting fight with the poison guy and even had a little bit of character development along the way, whereas Lu's fight....
Shin is the deuteragonost, Lu is not. Also the whole 5th episode was a mess cause of production issues - 23 studios were involveed.

I don't think that's a good reason for Lu having shorter and less exciting fights when she shares the same goal as Shin in helping Sakamoto fight against assassins
CocoJaypee said:
I don't think that's a good reason for Lu having shorter and less exciting fights when she shares the same goal as Shin in helping Sakamoto fight against assassins
Think whatever you want but the protagonist and the deuteragonist are the most important figures in the literature and the author and the editor decided who they are, end of it.
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BlindSwordmaster said:
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I don't think that's a good reason for Lu having shorter and less exciting fights when she shares the same goal as Shin in helping Sakamoto fight against assassins
Think whatever you want but the protagonist and the deuteragonist are the most important figures in the literature and the author and the editor decided who they are, end of it.

That's bad writing, every character that's part of the main cast needs to be developed properly, so that includes Lu. especially in a long series like an anime
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Short answer, yes she does BUT as someone else said, it has a lot of other cool female characters that will have roles later (I’d say as much as Nagumo). It’s not rlly a trio anime honestly the mains are just sakamoto and shin (but as a manga reader I admit I wish Lu was as present as Heisuke at least)
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This is for sure a retarded thread.
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She is an important character but Sakamoto and Shin are far more important
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There are bad ass female characters in this series. don't worry
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CocoJaypee said:
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Think whatever you want but the protagonist and the deuteragonist are the most important figures in the literature and the author and the editor decided who they are, end of it.

That's bad writing, every character that's part of the main cast needs to be developed properly, so that includes Lu. especially in a long series like an anime

Since you're talking about "proper development", don't you think you have to give the anime time to do that instead of complaining in just 6th episode?
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CocoJaypee said:
I don't read the manga so I don't know what will happen but from the first few episodes I have some suspicions that this will be another shounen show where the main female character, in this case it's Lu Shaotang, gets sidelined. During the amusement park arc, Shin got a whole episode fighting Tatsu while Lu only got a few minutes fighting Obiguro. Then in the latest episode she didn't even participate in the paint ball tournament.

I've read all the answer to your question, and I understand your point, how an manga reader I think the author had ideas for Lu, but because manga is a weekly publication, he maybe change their planes past the chapters.
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CocoJaypee said:
I don't read the manga so I don't know what will happen but from the first few episodes I have some suspicions that this will be another shounen show where the main female character, in this case it's Lu Shaotang, gets sidelined. During the amusement park arc, Shin got a whole episode fighting Tatsu while Lu only got a few minutes fighting Obiguro. Then in the latest episode she didn't even participate in the paint ball tournament

The anime is called Sakamoto Days

Sakamoto is the MC, it is his story

The other characters, as important as they may be, are supporting characters in his story

And yes, Shin, who's known and admired Sakamoto since before the series even began is a more importand character to his story (to the point he's considered more of a co-lead than a supporting character) than Shaotang who he just met and still has to get to know her, no one is being sidelined and this has nothing to do with the character's genders
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The mc is a dude so it is similar to Gintama in that regard. Some females are combatents.
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Honestly I'm kinda glad she's written the way she is. She looks great on the sidelines, cheering the boys on as they do their thing. She can chill with the wife as they sync up cycles.
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It’s time to ditch the text file.
Keep track of your anime easily by creating your own list.
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