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Dec 18, 2016 8:59 AM

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With the current state of the game, I would like to express my strategy for this game. I believe I this is my job as a type of player who likes being cryptic. I expect no less from town if they do not understand my message for them but you guys should not be worried at all. This is the kind of danger that I am attempting to do that could make or break the game.

I thought that this will be a great strategy but I may find people complain about it later. This is such a good tool to segregate who the rats that are lurking and killing innocent people. We have to keep an eye on those who are paying close attention to this game whether or not they get this message. We cannot have everyone to resort to this kind of strategy but I am just pointing out that it is possible to do this. My idea alone cannot make this possible unless town can understand what I am trying to do. I trust that you guys will make use of this strategy for later. Any other option is welcomed by me if you guys can give me a different suggestion.

If you are reading this, I will probably receive my death sentence. I am walking in a borrowed time and soon it will be over for me. I hope you guys can pick up where I left off when deemed necessary. Without it, we might just be left in the dark especially with all these inactives trying to ruin the fun. xDD


In other words, we should lynch scum in order to win the game. One at a time.

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Dec 18, 2016 9:03 AM

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Internet is alive again. Catching up. I don't know if I should ask for a replacement or not because as logic said inactivity is bad for town. I wanted to be active but I was without internet for 12 h D:
Dec 18, 2016 9:04 AM

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Gruffin said:
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I really don't see where all this town cred for -shad- is coming from. They have posted essentially nothing but fluff.. Wanting to coach Luna is nice and all but I really don't see that as alignment indicative. The fact that Luna didn't show up and they have not moved on actually makes me feel suspicious about them. Wanting to coach Luna is cool but there was plenty of other stuff going on. I hold shares Post in a similar vein is tingles where I probably would feel better had they done nothing at all rather than giving us nothing from what they do post.
Key word essentially. If you look back, he has made more contribution than Tingle did, even if it isn't much. Shad's coaching Luna is not alignment indicative, yeah, but neither is posting fluff. Staying on Luna like that isn't good, I agree.
you accuse Phraze of not seeing the possibility of -shad- being town but you seem to be brushing off the fact that -shad- could very well be scum. Why are you so willing to town read -shad- based of wanting to "coach" Luna??
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Shad: Didn’t accomplish anything D1. No readslist posted. His demeanor is not enough for me to read him either way.
Note that I've since changed my view on "Didn't accomplish anything D1.", but the third sentence still holds true for me.

My discussion with Phraze is in no way me telling her that Shad is town because of his actions, just that I think she is dismissing an important possibility that Shad could be passive town.
could you point out what post you see his contribution because I am not seeing it in regards to shad. I have already stated why I don't like tingles posts and shad's ring on pretty much the same chord. Sorry didn't think about your read list just noticed that shad is getting a lot of leeway for being inactive and fluff. While I agree with fluff is not alignment indicative I will say that the amount of fluff compared to constructive post Rings me as scummy. So the fact that so many see this as neutral or even read them which I have seen from.others is a bit concerning.
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Dec 18, 2016 9:07 AM

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logic340 said:
could you point out what post you see his contribution because I am not seeing it in regards to shad. I have already stated why I don't like tingles posts and shad's ring on pretty much the same chord. Sorry didn't think about your read list just noticed that shad is getting a lot of leeway for being sop inactive and fluff. While I agree with fluff is not alignment indicative I will say that the amount of fluff compared to constructive post Rings me as scummy. So the fact that so many see this as neutral or even read them which I have seen from.others is a bit concerning.
If I don't die, I'll be happy to show you. Could you show me which posts are scummy of his as well and walk me through your read that way? I'd like to compare our reads on him.
Dec 18, 2016 9:08 AM

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Pressure Ruu, Togs, and Phraze for me if I don't make it.
Dec 18, 2016 9:30 AM

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Day 2





The wild howl of the night carried on, awakening and maddening all but the dead.
And the lone villager anon, tossed and turned, rabid in their bed.
The days work had left the switch on, and left them tormented by their tireless head.
Visions of trucks that drove on, and the imprinted tracks that they tread.
It wasn't long as they carried on, that they ended the nightmare and rose out of bed.

Thinking to themselves a walk would be nice, they dressed up warm and made for the ice.
They walked and walked until they round twice, stopping at the tracks of would be mice.
Following, a light did entice, but the villager found their bed rather suffice.
Low did they think twice, when the mind returned its lice.
And off they went into the night, so they may find, and capture the mice.

The light shown bright upon the pane, rather inviting, but insuring them slain.
From the thin wooden walls came, rather hushed, words of German vein.
Lacking proof and looking to gain, rather graceless, they trudged through rain.
The voices ceased much to their bane, rather frightful, still they remained.
With creak the door did strain, rather slow, did the footsteps gain.
Silence fell only to remain, rather shocked, the villager nervously strained.

But then the door soon gladly closed, relieving the villager of situation it imposed.
With a sigh they gladly transposed, to escape their fate as they slowly exposed.
With steps carefully made undisclosed, the steps earlier returned opposed.
Like lightning they swiftly enclosed, and the poor villager was left disposed.




Comrades! The time has come again! Your country needs you!
While her wondrous expanse may be frozen, do not allow that to extinguish the fire inside you! Strike hot the iron within you to forge together a better future and country.
The soldiers on the front lines are already recognizing your efforts. The latest shipments have already left the factory and will be greatly welcome. Take pride in knowing those men will be at ease thanks to your hard work!

But the work shouldn't end there! Do not folly in your other duties. We cannot afford it. Your latest reports while helpful are not enough. We need to single out and eradicate the German rat at all cost! While you may be afraid of hurting your brothers do not despair. Instead look to the brothers beside you who are risking themselves in order to support you and the greater cause. It is them that you should consider when making the choice!

United!Will Never be Defeated! Remember those words comrades and they will guide you well.


Dec 18, 2016 9:34 AM

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All welcome @Sodalicious_ who will be taking Tingle's place. Thank you for your participation.
Dec 18, 2016 9:36 AM

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I think that's Kit. rip

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Dec 18, 2016 9:37 AM

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Chione said:
logic340 said:
I really don't see why this couldn't have been discussed during the day phase but I won't hold that against you. As stated before I do believe that there are 12 comments and 4 spies. I also of believe we should use them back to back to back in order to be able to decipher any information that we get with them. If this thinking is flawed please let me know why you think so.

Welp. Strategy talk during the day phase is hella distracting and often ends up in distorted views on players. We have enough time during the night phase to strategize instead so yeah.

I'm not sure what you mean by "back to back"?
what I mean by back-to-back is consecutive nights.
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Dec 18, 2016 9:37 AM

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This propaganda poster isn't legit right now >_>
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Dec 18, 2016 9:42 AM

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So PentaFlare is still in the game. I hope they'll be active this phase @PentaFlare what's up? Where you at?

@Sodalicious welcome I'm going to disregard my feelings about Tingle's three posts. You're neutral with me to start. Please let us know when you're all caught up.
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Dec 18, 2016 9:43 AM

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Rinto-kun said:
This propaganda poster isn't legit right now >_>
Silence. It's the future they're working toward.
Dec 18, 2016 9:48 AM

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@-shad-, who's more likely to be scum, me or Kota?
Why do you think Kit was killed?
Are you still going to try and pressure Luna?

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Dec 18, 2016 9:49 AM

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Reading Kit posts might be useful, I was sure Griffin was going to get killed, lmao.
Dec 18, 2016 9:55 AM

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Woah both Denja and I are still alive? o_o
RIP Kit and welcome Sodalicious.
Dec 18, 2016 9:57 AM

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I totally forgot about this. I just logged back into MAL after a couple days away so I just got all the notifications now. I'm so sorry. Starting to actually read this now. >.<
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Dec 18, 2016 9:57 AM

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Karote said:
@-shad-, who's more likely to be scum, me or Kota?
Why do you think Kit was killed?
Are you still going to try and pressure Luna?

Vadim: shad


Kit has shown some good post with trying to solve the game. Perhaps there are some post that gives clues and thats why mafia took him out.
On whos likely to be scum. I know you played a more quiet game as scum more or less if i do remembered properly and you playing right now is kinda like during final fantasy crossover so im leaning towards KOta as im not liking his post thus far to be fair its more wishy washy and dont have his own stance in his words rather jump on people's idea.

On about lulu, not for now. I would prefer if shes here though since i want to play with her.
@CallMeLuna

However my vote is on KOta for now since i want to know his thoughts on the game. Vadim : KOta

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Dec 18, 2016 9:59 AM

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Denja scum confirmed, if his town he should be dead lul based on meta lul Though there should be claire to confirm this lul

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Dec 18, 2016 10:07 AM

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Ruu said:
I spy: - Denja: oh denja... what am I going to do with you? Scum/town/scum again. I suspected you from the start because well... You are Denja; but then I decided to reread your ideas and for a moment they looked townish but now... we are back to the old Denja... why all the shipping? Can you choose someone based on your reads and not because somebody else voted for them? Is like anyone will do for you... do you really want to catch scum or not?

Srsly guys, you are all way too focused on play style…

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Please be more helpful so I can't trust you again.

lol

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About Chione: no, it wasn't directed at you, just in general. What rub me the wrong way was the wording of her posts. I have to admit I could be using meta for logic but still. #23 it was weird that she was already saying that logic vote wasn't doing much, isn't it too early for that? I interpreted as Chione been protective towards Luna which was weird.
When you say weird, do you mean scummy? I interpreted it as Chione wanting everyone's votes in a place that causes discussion. Do you think they are scumbuddies or Chione is trying for towncred? How does this affect your read of Luna?
Already sugesting a vote change?#46 again asking what are logic plans/ vote on Luna. There was another one were Chione and logic discussed each other's deffensive actitude (can't remember the post) were Chione seem more scummy than Logic. I see him more townish because I know how he works/writes so I can't tell when he's being an ofended townie xD. Did that help?
Are you referring to this post? And not really. I'm still not seeing your thought process clearly.

lolol. Overanalyzation rate in this game is damn too high. I was neither protective of Luna nor were my questions too early imo, I just wanted to get the game going instead of just saying that I want to be productive (looking at you logic xD). It’s a common strategy to ask almost silly questions at the beginning, so I’m not sure what you guys are surprised about.

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You could say so, yes.
Looks like @Karote, @Chione and @-shad- thought that Shad voted Luna too.

Oh wow, that actually brings a whole new light into the shad thing.

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I really don't see where all this town cred for -shad- is coming from. They have posted essentially nothing but fluff.. Wanting to coach Luna is nice and all but I really don't see that as alignment indicative. The fact that Luna didn't show up and they have not moved on actually makes me feel suspicious about them. Wanting to coach Luna is cool but there was plenty of other stuff going on. I hold shares Post in a similar vein is tingles where I probably would feel better had they done nothing at all rather than giving us nothing from what they do post.
Edit: Typos

I tried to at least discuss what others think about him, but no one listens to me. Rip.

logic340 said:
Chione said:

Welp. Strategy talk during the day phase is hella distracting and often ends up in distorted views on players. We have enough time during the night phase to strategize instead so yeah.

I'm not sure what you mean by "back to back"?
what I mean by back-to-back is consecutive nights.

Eh, I think it’s better if we just use them if we think id the right time. Anything can happen so there’s no sense in planning everything ahead. /laststrategypost


Karote said:
Reading Kit posts might be useful, I was sure Griffin was going to get killed, lmao.

Same here, he’s clearly the leader of the game right now.

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Woah both Denja and I are still alive? o_o
RIP Kit and welcome Sodalicious.

This is confusing, I get it when you say that you should have been killed but why Denja? Did I miss some obvious town read on him? o.O

Can we pls move from Karote and KOtA now? Going around in circles is getting boring.

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What are your thoughts on the whole thing about shad, has your read on him changed?
Dec 18, 2016 10:09 AM

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@-shad- Why was your vote on Gruffin all day? Did you suspect him?
Dec 18, 2016 10:10 AM

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PentaFlare said:
I totally forgot about this. I just logged back into MAL after a couple days away so I just got all the notifications now. I'm so sorry. Starting to actually read this now. >.<

I knew you'd come~
Dec 18, 2016 10:15 AM

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Chione said:
@-shad- Why was your vote on Gruffin all day? Did you suspect him?


gruffin is a her but no it was an rvs, but then i was too distracted with my assignemnts as im really far behind since i got to pass it up by tuesday so went and did that. Wanted to get back 1 hour before that but i passed out on my keybaord xD

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Chione said:
PentaFlare said:
I totally forgot about this. I just logged back into MAL after a couple days away so I just got all the notifications now. I'm so sorry. Starting to actually read this now. >.<

I knew you'd come~

Of course! I couldn't miss out on playing a game with you after so long without one! :)

On another note, I don't think I've ever seen Karote post this much on day 1. This has caught me off guard.
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Dec 18, 2016 10:21 AM

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-shad- said:
Chione said:
@-shad- Why was your vote on Gruffin all day? Did you suspect him?


gruffin is a her but no it was an rvs, but then i was too distracted with my assignemnts as im really far behind since i got to pass it up by tuesday so went and did that. Wanted to get back 1 hour before that but i passed out on my keybaord xD

Sorry ;-;
Hmmm, okay. What are your current suspects right now then? Why do you think KOtA is more suspicious than the rest? If possible, with proof please.
Dec 18, 2016 10:24 AM

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PentaFlare said:
Chione said:

I knew you'd come~

Of course! I couldn't miss out on playing a game with you after so long without one! :)

On another note, I don't think I've ever seen Karote post this much on day 1. This has caught me off guard.

:3

Yeah, he does post a lot. Looking forward to see what you think about his behaviour and actions, I think you know Karote better than any of us.
Dec 18, 2016 10:28 AM

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-shad- said:
Chione said:
@-shad- Why was your vote on Gruffin all day? Did you suspect him?


gruffin is a her

My whole life has been a lie.
So, why are you guys suspecting KotA?
I think we should shed some light on Karote too.
Kind of feels like they can be a scum team, indeed.



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Gruffin said:
logic340 said:
could you point out what post you see his contribution because I am not seeing it in regards to shad. I have already stated why I don't like tingles posts and shad's ring on pretty much the same chord. Sorry didn't think about your read list just noticed that shad is getting a lot of leeway for being sop inactive and fluff. While I agree with fluff is not alignment indicative I will say that the amount of fluff compared to constructive post Rings me as scummy. So the fact that so many see this as neutral or even read them which I have seen from.others is a bit concerning.
If I don't die, I'll be happy to show you. Could you show me which posts are scummy of his as well and walk me through your read that way? I'd like to compare our reads on him.
I have already explained why it comes across as scummy to me. The few posts you guys considered contribution I do not. They don't make any real reads for themselves just go along with the consensus. Rather than be active and make fluff post and ask about Luna. As I stated before inactive or lazy town is just as bad if not worse than Mafia. I am not saying that they are Mafia but if their behavior does not change I do not mind killing them off in order to keep the game flowing. That goes for any inactive I would blame them for the loss considering this town knows we need to be active in order to win this game due to the setup. If people are going to continue to ignore the setup and the fact that they need to be active I will consider that scummy Behavior. Given how I feel and my explanation there is not one post that I can point to, I take them all as a whole, when I look at everything they've done so far as a whole 72 hours into the game I see nothing that has progressed anything for Town nothing.
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Chione said:
-shad- said:


gruffin is a her but no it was an rvs, but then i was too distracted with my assignemnts as im really far behind since i got to pass it up by tuesday so went and did that. Wanted to get back 1 hour before that but i passed out on my keybaord xD

Sorry ;-;
Hmmm, okay. What are your current suspects right now then? Why do you think KOtA is more suspicious than the rest? If possible, with proof please.


Generally i dont really like how KOtA's wishy washy behaviour sometimes like said i want to know his thoughts are thats why i placed on my vote on him. I dont find him suspicious to say perhaps a little as im trying to get into his head and his general thoughts are. I will give proofs if im able to finished my assignments as im giving sometime to the game as well but I need to pass my assignment real bad

Mini list
Logic & Chione - You both are my town reads. I believe your argument with him was just a town vs town effect like similarity to the one logic had over at friday the 13th.
Togs - Quiet, but interesting read list. I want to know more of him as i know he can vanished as he is quite busy.
Lulu - We all know that shes inactive.
Denja - Meta or not, his dangerous as a player. Just keeping tabs on him


Phraze - i am still unable to read her throughtly. I will need more time for her as she is pretty hard to understand [s]with my low tier english[s]

Back to assignments be right back.

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PentaFlare said:
I totally forgot about this. I just logged back into MAL after a couple days away so I just got all the notifications now. I'm so sorry. Starting to actually read this now. >.<
glad that you're here. Take your time there is a lot to digest.
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@Logic340 Here's the posts I'm talking about:
266 - He respond your (Logic's) questions, giving his thoughts on the game and a couple of reads.
273 - Agreeing that Tingle/KOtA/Luna should be questioned, follows through by asking Luna and KOtA about their opinion on the game/reads.

Granted, these are only two posts and the rest are fluff >->
I read him as neutral because:
1) He has not said anything scummy.
2) He has contributed, but not much or anything groundbreaking.
3) It's possible that the fluff posting is a playstyle choice, could be town or scum.
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Gruffin said:
@Logic340 Here's the posts I'm talking about:
266 - He respond your (Logic's) questions, giving his thoughts on the game and a couple of reads.
273 - Agreeing that Tingle/KOtA/Luna should be questioned, follows through by asking Luna and KOtA about their opinion on the game/reads.

Granted, these are only two posts and the rest are fluff >->
I read him as neutral because:
1) He has not said anything scummy.
2) He has contributed, but not much or anything groundbreaking.
3) It's possible that the fluff posting is a playstyle choice, could be town or scum.


Just want to add on gruffin. Look at the idol mafia where i played with denja. I was fluffing that one as well.

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Dec 18, 2016 10:51 AM

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DenjaX said:
I think that's Kit. rip

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Chione said:
Oh wow, that actually brings a whole new light into the shad thing.
What do you think of it?
Same here, he’s clearly the leader of the game right now.
Yeah, not sure what happened there. I’d like to point out before we start analyzing Kit’s NK that there’s a variety of WIFOMy reasons they could have been killed so let’s be careful about it influencing our reads. Framing, making town doubt themselves, causing confusion, and all sorts of stuff I haven’t thought of could be reasons that Kit was killed. That or they actually were onto something, we just don’t know.
This is confusing, I get it when you say that you should have been killed but why Denja? Did I miss some obvious town read on him? o.O
Yes, you could say that. His towntells are clear if you know where to look.
Can we pls move from Karote and KOtA now? Going around in circles is getting boring.
+1
I can already sense that town’s getting too focused on them. Let’s expand our search to other players and see what we can find. Ruu, Phraze, Togs! They need some pressure!
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I have already explained why it comes across as scummy to me. The few posts you guys considered contribution I do not. They don't make any real reads for themselves just go along with the consensus. Rather than be active and make fluff post and ask about Luna. As I stated before inactive or lazy town is just as bad if not worse than Mafia. I am not saying that they are Mafia but if their behavior does not change I do not mind killing them off in order to keep the game flowing. That goes for any inactive I would blame them for the loss considering this town knows we need to be active in order to win this game due to the setup. If people are going to continue to ignore the setup and the fact that they need to be active I will consider that scummy Behavior. Given how I feel and my explanation there is not one post that I can point to, I take them all as a whole, when I look at everything they've done so far as a whole 72 hours into the game I see nothing that has progressed anything for Town nothing.
OHH, I understand what you're saying now. We just have different opinions on what counts as contribution, correct?
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So I read the entire first 3 pages to set up some context then jumped into doing an isolated read of only @Chione's posts. Picked her because she was online when I started and because I know her town and mafia playstyles pretty well.

Not knowing anything about what other people were saying actually was very helpful because it revealed a consistency in her train of thought. Using her read on logic as an example, she started off with a small suspicion based on a trend in logic's posts she had noticed. After this, her additional posts about logic followed through on what she had already said and added new insight which pushed her read in a new direction. Essentially, her train of thought was easy to follow and not contradictory.

There is one key reason why this is so important: it is a product of a town mindset. Town players are looking to find mafia so they analyze the posts that everyone makes and produce a read based on those posts. Each time a player posts, they add that new information to their read. Mafia players have another goal in mind: they want to survive. Because of this goal, when they see a post (particularly in posts addressing them), their principal thought is not furthering their read on the person posting, but determining how they can respond in the most townlike way. As such, mafia posts don't flow as well into each other. They seem like individual blocks that relate only to the post they are responding to then a gradual progression of a read.

Furthermore, all of Chione's posts (excepting the ones saying she would be gone or was backreading) provide insight about players and she actively avoids getting caught up in mechanics during the day as she believes this will distract from her analysis. When she plays scum I find that she is inclined to provide input on anything addressed to her even if is not helpful in furthering the game. When she is town, she will only express her thoughts if it furthers the game.

With all this in mind, I believe Chione's play this game has been consistent with bother her personal town game and a general town mindset. However, I will still be keeping her reads in mind when catching up with the rest of the game to doublecheck her analysis.
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Gruffin said:
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Oh wow, that actually brings a whole new light into the shad thing.
What do you think of it?
Same here, he’s clearly the leader of the game right now.
Yeah, not sure what happened there. I’d like to point out before we start analyzing Kit’s NK that there’s a variety of WIFOMy reasons they could have been killed so let’s be careful about it influencing our reads. Framing, making town doubt themselves, causing confusion, and all sorts of stuff I haven’t thought of could be reasons that Kit was killed. That or they actually were onto something, we just don’t know.
This is confusing, I get it when you say that you should have been killed but why Denja? Did I miss some obvious town read on him? o.O
Yes, you could say that. His towntells are clear if you know where to look.
Can we pls move from Karote and KOtA now? Going around in circles is getting boring.
+1
I can already sense that town’s getting too focused on them. Let’s expand our search to other players and see what we can find. Ruu, Phraze, Togs! They need some pressure!
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I have already explained why it comes across as scummy to me. The few posts you guys considered contribution I do not. They don't make any real reads for themselves just go along with the consensus. Rather than be active and make fluff post and ask about Luna. As I stated before inactive or lazy town is just as bad if not worse than Mafia. I am not saying that they are Mafia but if their behavior does not change I do not mind killing them off in order to keep the game flowing. That goes for any inactive I would blame them for the loss considering this town knows we need to be active in order to win this game due to the setup. If people are going to continue to ignore the setup and the fact that they need to be active I will consider that scummy Behavior. Given how I feel and my explanation there is not one post that I can point to, I take them all as a whole, when I look at everything they've done so far as a whole 72 hours into the game I see nothing that has progressed anything for Town nothing.
OHH, I understand what you're saying now. We just have different opinions on what counts as contribution, correct?
I guess you could say that, though I like shds's first post to start this phase so hopefully they will change my opinion. Again not dating they are scum just not finding their day 1 posts all that constructive.
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logic340 said:
I guess you could say that, though I like shds's first post to start this phase so hopefully they will change my opinion. Again not dating they are scum just not finding their day 1 posts all that constructive.
Glad we worked that out. So who do you plan on pressuring/voting for today?
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logic340 said:
Gruffin said:
What do you think of it?
Yeah, not sure what happened there. I’d like to point out before we start analyzing Kit’s NK that there’s a variety of WIFOMy reasons they could have been killed so let’s be careful about it influencing our reads. Framing, making town doubt themselves, causing confusion, and all sorts of stuff I haven’t thought of could be reasons that Kit was killed. That or they actually were onto something, we just don’t know.
Yes, you could say that. His towntells are clear if you know where to look.
+1
I can already sense that town’s getting too focused on them. Let’s expand our search to other players and see what we can find. Ruu, Phraze, Togs! They need some pressure!
OHH, I understand what you're saying now. We just have different opinions on what counts as contribution, correct?
I guess you could say that, though I like shds's first post to start this phase so hopefully they will change my opinion. Again not dating they are scum just not finding their day 1 posts all that constructive.


My name isnt spelled as shds D: :feelsbadman:

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@Astros Has Vadim caught a German spy yet and if so, does he have any kind of evidence? Like a letter of recommending them for spying on our Motherland. (I wanna know how their role messages sound xD)

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@Astros Has Vadim caught a German spy yet and if so, does he have any kind of evidence? Like a letter of recommending them for spying on our Motherland. (I wanna know how their role messages sound xD)
^ Something I want to add: I'm wondering how similar town and mafia's role messages are.
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@Astros Has Vadim caught a German spy yet and if so, does he have any kind of evidence? Like a letter of recommending them for spying on our Motherland.
Vadim says you are asking the wrong questions and to focus on the matter at hand.

Rinto-kun said:
(I wanna know how their role messages sound xD)
Gruffin said:
^ Something I want to add: I'm wondering how similar town and mafia's role messages are.
All in due time.
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-shad- said:
logic340 said:
I guess you could say that, though I like shds's first post to start this phase so hopefully they will change my opinion. Again not dating they are scum just not finding their day 1 posts all that constructive.


My name isnt spelled as shds D: :feelsbadman:
Sorry I was on my phone and I hardly proof read or focus on grammar I will not let it happen again. It's been a rough day irl so I'm here for the next few hours.
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Ruu said:
Internet is alive again. Catching up. I don't know if I should ask for a replacement or not because as logic said inactivity is bad for town. I wanted to be active but I was without internet for 12 h D:
Stay with us Ruu. We're already two replacements in and I really want to continue playing with you.

Karote said:
Reading Kit posts might be useful, I was sure Griffin was going to get killed, lmao.
I agree and we should also be looking over other's interactions with him as well.

-shad- said:
Denja scum confirmed, if his town he should be dead lul based on meta lul Though there should be claire to confirm this lul
Why do you feel that Denja should be dead instead of Kit if he is town?

Gruffin said:
logic340 said:
I guess you could say that, though I like shad's first post to start this phase so hopefully they will change my opinion. Again not dating they are scum just not finding their day 1 posts all that constructive.
Glad we worked that out. So who do you plan on pressuring/voting for today?
I'm going to look into Kit's posts and those who interacted with him I am going to revisit the Karote/KOta situation, and I am going to look revisit everyone and make a new read list before I place a vote this phase.
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Quick reads list, just my general feelings so far:

Seem town, most active, consider viewpoints/discussion: Gruffin, Logic, Chione

Leaning town, actions seem town based: Phraze, Denja, Shad

Neutral because I'm not sure: Shinichi, Rinto, Ruu

Neutral because they're inactive: Tingle, Penta, callmeluna

Neutral but leaning scum, actions don't seem town based, also have been inactive: Togs, KOtA

Seem scum, actions seem anti-town/doesn't seem to do much in favor of town: Karote
Here is Kit's read list from post #399. Putting it here as a reference I have not analyzed or thought about it just saw it as I was looking over D1.
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Gruffin said:
Yeah, not sure what happened there. I’d like to point out before we start analyzing Kit’s NK that there’s a variety of WIFOMy reasons they could have been killed so let’s be careful about it influencing our reads. Framing, making town doubt themselves, causing confusion, and all sorts of stuff I haven’t thought of could be reasons that Kit was killed. That or they actually were onto something, we just don’t know.
Just so everyone sees this.
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Gruffin said:
Gruffin said:
Yeah, not sure what happened there. I’d like to point out before we start analyzing Kit’s NK that there’s a variety of WIFOMy reasons they could have been killed so let’s be careful about it influencing our reads. Framing, making town doubt themselves, causing confusion, and all sorts of stuff I haven’t thought of could be reasons that Kit was killed. That or they actually were onto something, we just don’t know.
Just so everyone sees this.
This is a really good post there could be many reasons so coming up with reasons for as many of them as we can may help us shed light on it. Basically everyone give there own point of view on it.
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Town (confirmed):
logic340
Kit

Neutral Town Lean
DenjaX - I do believe that he is town with the way he's been playing. It's a strong vibe I get a similar feeling to what I had with grrr in Nanatsu.
Gruffin - Gruffin has admittedly been hard for me to read. I don't see anything scummy she is playing very freely and doing a great job of questioning and thinking critically about what is going on.
Chione - I've had a strong town vibe since my interaction with them. They are very focused on figuring out what is going on.

Neutral:
Ruu - It seems to me that Ruu tries really hard to look town when she is scum. Not going to give her a pass for not doing it as much here but she seems to be a little more carefree with her posting.
Rinto-kun I feel pretty good about him so far. He's pretty lowkey though which makes me uneasy in just town reading him.
PentaFlare - Just got here not going to hold D1 against them. I really like their write up on Chione but it's not alignment indicative. Looking forwards to having a dialogue with this player as well.
Sodalicious - I am not going to hold the way I feel about Tingle's play against Soda. I did that last game and lynched town. I will however look for them to get active and hopefully have a dialogue with them at some point this phase
Phraze - Been kind of under the radar for me this game need to look closer into what she's done this game.
Togs - I still feel this game is more like his town game from CCL but I found that scummy so I don't know how to feel about him right now. He was one hell of a scum lord but seems to be a bit passive this game.
Shinichi-kun - Still don't know how to read this guy never seen his town game he's one I need to try and figure out.
-shad- - Maybe my reasoning has been weak but his play so far hasn't sat well with me looking forward to figuring out which way I want to go on him this phase.
callmeLuna - Nothing since very early D1. Pretty much all fluff, I am not a fan of inactivity. Can't say their behavior is scummy but I want them to be active this phase.

Karote/KOta need too look closer at this. It doesn't feel like town vs. town to me. It could even have been scum vs. scum need too see what their motivations have been I kind of get the self preservation feeling from both rather but a little less from Karote than KOta now than I had first thought.

I really don't have any scum leads right now. I'm going out again for a while I hope to see some activity when I come back on shortly. The inactivity is killing me so for now sorry to do this but.

vadim: Sodalicious What do you think of the events of D1? I need a fresh perspective.
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My exams start tomorrow, so I'll be online probably about 3 hours before phase changes.

I'll try participate as much I can during that time.
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-shad- said:
Chione said:

Sorry ;-;
Hmmm, okay. What are your current suspects right now then? Why do you think KOtA is more suspicious than the rest? If possible, with proof please.


Generally i dont really like how KOtA's wishy washy behaviour sometimes like said i want to know his thoughts are thats why i placed on my vote on him. I dont find him suspicious to say perhaps a little as im trying to get into his head and his general thoughts are. I will give proofs if im able to finished my assignments as im giving sometime to the game as well but I need to pass my assignment real bad

Mini list
Logic & Chione - You both are my town reads. I believe your argument with him was just a town vs town effect like similarity to the one logic had over at friday the 13th.
Togs - Quiet, but interesting read list. I want to know more of him as i know he can vanished as he is quite busy.
Lulu - We all know that shes inactive.
Denja - Meta or not, his dangerous as a player. Just keeping tabs on him


Phraze - i am still unable to read her throughtly. I will need more time for her as she is pretty hard to understand [s]with my low tier english[s]

Back to assignments be right back.


Tbh I'm not convinced yet to remove my vote on you.
You seem to only suspect Kota who's obviously suspect for everyone and everyone else for you is town/neutral, I would understand scum would have problems have scum reads himself since he knows everyone else is town.

I have seen you trying solve the game more as town >_> but maybe that's cus you're busy now, idk.
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