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Oct 4, 2016 12:44 AM
#1951
Lamby said: shadroxx2810 said: grrr said: So Togs know knows how much gold he had before he died. Can we ask him? His playing as tingle nw. Does this mean you literally removed them from the pool, concerning revival? I do hope that was no longer going to be available for the remainder of the game or something, ahead of said replacement.... No longer avaialble as that would be too unfair.. |
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Oct 4, 2016 12:52 AM
#1952
shadroxx2810 said: Lamby said: shadroxx2810 said: grrr said: So Togs know knows how much gold he had before he died. Can we ask him? His playing as tingle nw. Does this mean you literally removed them from the pool, concerning revival? I do hope that was no longer going to be available for the remainder of the game or something, ahead of said replacement.... No longer avaialble as that would be too unfair.. Had you originally planned to do so ahead of time, or..... |
Oct 4, 2016 12:53 AM
#1953
I’ll apologize in advance but my explanations will be somewhat bare bones on this case because I’m feeling pretty tired. Why Gwendolly is town Gwendolly said: Okaaay guuys, going to bed now and I will be busy tomorrow... be there before phase change or in the morning and if not and if I still happen to be in the lead here's my panic-talk-action activated: Now I see the reason why I wasnt killed last night (because I was pretty sure I would be). Okay town listen to me and think hard, here are my thoughts: I thought I would die during yesterdays lynch but then it happened to be Holo, I then thought they decided to kill me during nightphase. But then I thought, if they're smart enough, they would let me live for now, kill someone else and lead me to a lynch again (since I was always in a suspicion of being scummy right?) and thats exactly what's happening now. I'm not sure if everyone on the train is scum as probably for most cases townies get dragged in, but if this succeeds and I die and you see I'm not scum; you got your targets (there has to be atleast 1-2 scum in there, cant explain otherwise)! I suspect Conquerer and Togs. I didnt want to believe Togs was scum but if you go after my lynch-theory it seems reasonable, since he set on me twice (plus he suspects Holo too). So yeah, let me know what you guys think about that, does that make sense or am I just being paranoid? I would atleast like an input on that. Nonetheless I'm gonna vote for Conquerer since he just jumped in came outta nowhere, while apparently not knowing what was going on. And [b]I want to see Togs explain himself more, well I want to see them both explain more.[/b[ Vote Change: TheConquerer Now its for you to believe me or not. But I feel like no matter what I say it leads to my death anyway, I dont know what I'm doing wrong xD Yes I may be bad at investigating, but thats because I have no idea who possibly could be scum atm other than that its one of those people who are trying to lynch me. Okay there you go I've poured my heart out, thats what you wished for right [Panic-talk-action deactivated] xD Gwen’s response to my initial pressure. This is a very, very townie post. The towntells I’ve bolded in the above but I’ll also go through all of them. “Now I see the reason why I wasnt killed last night (because I was pretty sure I would be).” - Nightkill paranoia is a classic towntell because well obviously only townies should fear the nightkill. There is also the fact that town have a tendency to see themselves as “the protagonist of their own story” whereas scum see themselves as part of a team. Nightkill paranoia also indicates a sense of self-importance that town players are much more likely to have. “listen to me and think hard” “if you go after my lynch-theory” “Okay there you go I've poured my heart out” - Again there is a large sense of self-importance in her own case. There is definitely a sense here that this is the most thought Gwen has put into the game thus far and she is a little proud of doing so. All town indicators. Also approaching the gamestate with “theories” like this is a very townie mindset. “(plus he suspects Holo too).” - scum would have an aversion to saying this and lumping themselves with holo if they already knew she was scum. “I would atleast like an input on that.” “I want to see Togs explain himself more, well I want to see them both explain more.” - Calling for opinions shows that her mind is not on self-defense but on figuring out the game. Sure anyone can fake a towntell, but a huge amount of them in a post like this is a trend that I don’t think Gwen could fake as scum. Honestly if I saw just this post in isolation without knowing the context I would be 80-90% the poster was town from just this alone. But, Gwen has more towny posts to back her up: Gwendolly said: Togs said: Gwendolly said: Togs:- didn't see him comment much lately (more the observer type?) - got triggered when I was reacting to wen -> explains my reaction was scum behaviour when hes actually doing the same which is trying to point fingers at others to confuse town (so it doesnt make much sense to me) - trying to save coro? - thinks holo train is town (the ones that remained?) I outlined my case against you pretty clearly which is two specific points. One is that scum is likely to be found voting on an inconsequential wagon at the end of D1/D2, and the other is that scum would likely try to spread confusion in the town after using the janitor potion, after all the last 2 large games to fire had the scum do quite well for themselves using this strategy so I am sure that the scumteam this game would try to copy them in that respect. These were the 2 things I was looking for and I suspect you because you are the point where they intersect. Okay so I reread your post. How is it misinformation when its an actual fact? Wen was covered! Obviously scum move! Obvious fact! And you're seeing end day wagons as all-town. So I'm asking you AGAIN do you think wen was scum? And for your wagon-theory: You might aswell question Zombiewolf or Lupa (who even refused to vote on second day) too then, like I said I'm not the only one.You're walking right into your own trap! I hope town sees through this! New top three suspicion: Coro, CP & Togs I’ll mention here that it’s very natural for town players to suspect people voting for them. From their point of view they know they are town, so people who vote against them are therefore scummier, this is called “first-level reasoning.” From this post Gwen’s emotions are very clear, she is bewildered that I could be scumreading her after all she is the towniest player in the game to herself. These emotions are a lot harder to fake as scum because there is no bewilderment, they would know on some level that the accuser is right. Gwendolly said: Gwendolly said: Now I see the reason why I wasnt killed last night (because I was pretty sure I would be). Okay town listen to me and think hard, here are my thoughts: I thought I would die during yesterdays lynch but then it happened to be Holo, I then thought they decided to kill me during nightphase. But then I thought, if they're smart enough, they would let me live for now, kill someone else and lead me to a lynch again (since I was always in a suspicion of being scummy right?) and thats exactly what's happening now. I'm not sure if everyone on the train is scum as probably for most cases townies get dragged in, but if this succeeds and I die and you see I'm not scum; you got your targets (there has to be atleast 1-2 scum in there, cant explain otherwise)! Evidence: CorruptedPurity said: I honestly would still vote for her. At the very least, I would keep my word and vote for sithis. I wouldn't stray from what I said. I blatantly claimed that my only 2 votes for today would either be holo or sithis. If I went against my claim, wouldn't that be scummy? CorruptedPurity said: Gwen: The sudden vote drop out of nowhere without prior explanations is suspicious af. Definitely leaning towards scum. But I made my conviction on either Holo or Sithis earlier today and plan to keep to my words. She's a problem for tomorrow. CorruptedPurity said: I'm thinking about possible changes that may happen in the game. Am I scared of looking scummy? I wouldn't say scared but I would not want to appear scummy now would I? Regardless, I would stand by my words. Just like what's happening with Gwen which leads to your second question. The answer is no. Gwen is definitely more scummy than Holo is my books. But as I said, that's tomorrow's problem. I find Holo scummy enough currently to be awarded a lynch vote and I will not budge. I'm slowly puzzling this together. Think I'm done researching for now. Like I said I would like some kind of input and maybe from someone less scummy please. Read it and come to your own conclusion. I love the word usage here .. “puzzling” and “researching”. There are words a that town, aka the uninformed majority are more likely to use because they do see the game as a puzzle. And Gwen does see herself as a kind of mafia detective here. Gwendolly said: My instincts would say togs too, but if I leave now itll be a tie again, I think. Gwendolly said: Lord_Sithis said: _Claire_ said: Lord_Sithis said: Finally caught up! So it's Suzune or Kota. I really didn't like the way that Karote started a train and many people jumped onto it. It seems like Suzune is scum and Karote wanted to save her. That's suspicious. For now, I'll vote Kota since I suspect him more than Suzune, but I didn't like that thing. vote: Kota This is shallow. Everything was based on Lamby saying he saw Suzune killing someone which is a bluff. If you dont suspect suzune then vote togs, I would go for him too then..if not I'll stay put...or I dont even mind a tie right now This is the post that ppl seem to mostly be voting her over but I think it’s reasonable to come from a town mindset. I get the feeling she’s more like “correcting” Sithis on there only being 2 lynch options since he didn’t mention me at all. And honestly, town can be wrong all the time. The thing that’s telling about Gwen’s EoD vote is that she made her thought process clear throughout her posts. If you read through it you’ll see she was suspicious of Kota, then was worried about a tie, then decided to take a risk and break the tie.. this a lot more analysis and thoughts than bandwagoning scum usually put. Compare to posts like: KOtA said: Vote: Togs Which are genuinely scummy. |
Oct 4, 2016 12:54 AM
#1954
Lamby said: shadroxx2810 said: Lamby said: shadroxx2810 said: grrr said: So Togs know knows how much gold he had before he died. Can we ask him? His playing as tingle nw. Does this mean you literally removed them from the pool, concerning revival? I do hope that was no longer going to be available for the remainder of the game or something, ahead of said replacement.... No longer avaialble as that would be too unfair.. Had you originally planned to do so ahead of time, or..... No, as I had problem finding people to replace, as there was 2 person needed to replace at the same time. |
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Oct 4, 2016 1:03 AM
#1955
Hm.. well, I do think KOtA is scummy too so don't mind changing my vote for now. Vote Change: KOtA |
Oct 4, 2016 1:16 AM
#1956
@Rinto-kun Have you caught up yet? @KOtA Who else do you suspect, besides grrr? |
Oct 4, 2016 1:25 AM
#1957
π Vote Count 5.5π π KOtA (3)π | |π gwendolly, Karote, coromandelπ π coromandel (2)π | |π SightlessReality ,grrrπ π Grrr (2)π | |π KOtA, Togsπ π Rinto-kun (1)π | |π TheConquerer π π gwendolly (1)π | |π Lambyπ π Not Voting π:| | π Rinto-kun , Lord_Sithis π |
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Oct 4, 2016 1:25 AM
#1958
lamby i'd say Karote , gwendolly and lamby SightlessReality , i'm not saying they're all scummy , but i need to be aware of them Edit |
Oct 4, 2016 1:27 AM
#1960
KOtA said: i'd say Karote , gwendolly and lamby , i'm not saying they're all scummy , but i need to be aware of them Why do you suspect these 3 the most? |
Oct 4, 2016 1:30 AM
#1961
coromandel said: KOtA said: i'd say Karote , gwendolly and lamby , i'm not saying they're all scummy , but i need to be aware of them Why do you suspect these 3 the most? i fixed it ^^ well bc of some of their actions |
Oct 4, 2016 1:35 AM
#1962
@Lord_Sithis @grrr @theconquerer @karote @gwendolly @lamby Who do you suspect is mafia, and why? KOtA said: well bc of some of their actions -_- I'm trying to understand your thought process, so ... I'd like to know why exactly you suspect each of them. |
Oct 4, 2016 1:39 AM
#1963
Nightkills N1: - Denja [died N2, but targeted N1] - VladWolfsbane [killed by Sightless] N2: - wen294 [role was masked] - aa-dono [killed by Sightless] N3: - CorruptedPurity N4: - Zombiewolf - Suzune-chan - Lupadim [sacrificed himself to kill Suzune?] If Sightless is telling the truth, then there's no Serial Killer. |
Oct 4, 2016 1:41 AM
#1964
coromandel said: @Lord_Sithis @grrr @theconquerer @karote @gwendolly @lamby Who do you suspect is mafia, and why? KOtA said: well bc of some of their actions -_- I'm trying to understand your thought process, so ... I'd like to know why exactly you suspect each of them. Karote : the train thingy is what makes me aware of him gwendolly: she need to relay on others to do her votes SightlessReality : had a bit of thing going with Lupadim , and votes against a confirmed town this round |
Oct 4, 2016 1:45 AM
#1965
And we're up against 3-4 mafia members - in a pool of 11 players. 3-4 mafia players. 5-7 townies. 0-2 third parties. If a townie is lynched today, and killed N5, then: 9 players. 3-4 mafia, 3-5 townies, 0-2 third parties. Not good. We need to lynch scum today. Players / Roles
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Oct 4, 2016 2:12 AM
#1966
eh I dont know, but Togs seems to be going out of his way to defend Gwendolly, maybe Im reading too much into it.. I dont want to vote Kota since when we votes on Suzunne, Kota would have been the next target early on before people went after Togs. I'm just gonna vote Gwendolly the more I look at Togs post the more it seems like an english essay rather than a post with actual merit. No offense Togs but some of your points are well, pointless. |
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Oct 4, 2016 2:52 AM
#1967
Oct 4, 2016 3:46 AM
#1968
I skimmed through but it's hard to form an opinion about anyone since I'm coming in a late phase, I'll try to assist you in the best way I can. |
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Oct 4, 2016 4:10 AM
#1969
lol , i didn't know that voting against me is a defense mechanism |
Oct 4, 2016 4:57 AM
#1970
coromandel said: Kota is my main suspect right now. He has done 0 things to help town. Like 0, absolute 0. If that's true, then most likely Karote is town, since he would never start a train on a scumbuddy. TheConqueror is defending Kota without a real reason, that's suspicious too. And about grrr, well, it's grrr.@Lord_Sithis @grrr @theconquerer @karote @gwendolly @lamby Who do you suspect is mafia, and why? KOtA said: well bc of some of their actions -_- I'm trying to understand your thought process, so ... I'd like to know why exactly you suspect each of them. I think Kota and TheConqueror might be mafia. |
Oct 4, 2016 5:49 AM
#1971
[Day 2] grrr said: I really want to lynch either lamb or Suzune based on how things go. I don't see how Gwen is more scum than Kota or Conqueror. But I will trust lupadim and keep my vote on Coromondel. If she is town then it is all LUPADIM's fault. You said: I really want to lynch either lamb or Suzune based on how things go. But then didn't vote for either of them. Why not? grrr said: Actually, I won't be able to be online more today, so I will just place my vote on Vote change: TheConqueror I think there is better chance to get him lynch over cormondel since he is not online and he can't defend himself and I really don't want to lynch gwen. I hope you guys will leave the innocent gwen alone and lynch someone else. Why did you vote for theConquerer instead? |
Oct 4, 2016 5:51 AM
#1972
coromandel said: Gwendolly said: coromandel said: coromandel said: Imo we should lynch someone on your train, there has to be scum on it. Togs (6) | Lamby, _Claire_, KOtA, gwendolly, Karote, Lord_Sithis And out of these, I suspect Claire/Rinto, KotA and Gwendolly the most. They've never voted for scum, the others did. + Grrr who voted for neither Suzune nor Togs during D4. (Although that depends on KOtA's alignment) I dont know why you keep saying that people who didnt vote for scum the whole time make them look scummy. If Id be scum, Id even vote for scumbuddy if I see that they're safe, just to get rid of any suspicion, but hey I dont know how each one of you play, just saying what I would do. 'til now my reads were wrong all the time anyway x) I thought Denja was mafia, I thought Holo was town and now Togs. So I dont blame you for thinking that, but still think that it doesnt mean anything. I'd rather go by their behaviour than their votes. Voting doesn't count as behavior to you? Process of Elimination. There are many people who've voted for either Holo or Suzune. Of course the mafia can also vote for them, but in general they're interested in keeping their partners alive and lynching townies instead. And by PoE, there aren't many people left who've never voted for scum. I believe it'd be better to lynch someone from this pile, because they're more likely mafia. It does count, but I see a difference between the vote results and the vote behaviour (did their vote came outta nowhere? what was their reasoning? jump votes etc.) So my main suspect is still Kota; he could have easily voted for Suzune to save his ass, but he didnt. |
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Oct 4, 2016 5:53 AM
#1973
TheConquerer said: eh I dont know, but Togs seems to be going out of his way to defend Gwendolly, maybe Im reading too much into it.. I dont want to vote Kota since when we votes on Suzunne, Kota would have been the next target early on before people went after Togs. I'm just gonna vote Gwendolly the more I look at Togs post the more it seems like an english essay rather than a post with actual merit. No offense Togs but some of your points are well, pointless. Thats not a legitimate reason to not vote for Kota. Also you again on my train? I see you mah boy! |
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Oct 4, 2016 5:56 AM
#1974
Gwendolly said: coromandel said: Gwendolly said: coromandel said: coromandel said: Imo we should lynch someone on your train, there has to be scum on it. Togs (6) | Lamby, _Claire_, KOtA, gwendolly, Karote, Lord_Sithis And out of these, I suspect Claire/Rinto, KotA and Gwendolly the most. They've never voted for scum, the others did. + Grrr who voted for neither Suzune nor Togs during D4. (Although that depends on KOtA's alignment) I dont know why you keep saying that people who didnt vote for scum the whole time make them look scummy. If Id be scum, Id even vote for scumbuddy if I see that they're safe, just to get rid of any suspicion, but hey I dont know how each one of you play, just saying what I would do. 'til now my reads were wrong all the time anyway x) I thought Denja was mafia, I thought Holo was town and now Togs. So I dont blame you for thinking that, but still think that it doesnt mean anything. I'd rather go by their behaviour than their votes. Voting doesn't count as behavior to you? Process of Elimination. There are many people who've voted for either Holo or Suzune. Of course the mafia can also vote for them, but in general they're interested in keeping their partners alive and lynching townies instead. And by PoE, there aren't many people left who've never voted for scum. I believe it'd be better to lynch someone from this pile, because they're more likely mafia. It does count, but I see a difference between the vote results and the vote behaviour (did their vote came outta nowhere? what was their reasoning? jump votes etc.) So my main suspect is still Kota; he could have easily voted for Suzune to save his ass, but he didnt. Good point. |
Oct 4, 2016 5:56 AM
#1975
Togs said: I’ll apologize in advance but my explanations will be somewhat bare bones on this case because I’m feeling pretty tired. Why Gwendolly is town Gwendolly said: Okaaay guuys, going to bed now and I will be busy tomorrow... be there before phase change or in the morning and if not and if I still happen to be in the lead here's my panic-talk-action activated: Now I see the reason why I wasnt killed last night (because I was pretty sure I would be). Okay town listen to me and think hard, here are my thoughts: I thought I would die during yesterdays lynch but then it happened to be Holo, I then thought they decided to kill me during nightphase. But then I thought, if they're smart enough, they would let me live for now, kill someone else and lead me to a lynch again (since I was always in a suspicion of being scummy right?) and thats exactly what's happening now. I'm not sure if everyone on the train is scum as probably for most cases townies get dragged in, but if this succeeds and I die and you see I'm not scum; you got your targets (there has to be atleast 1-2 scum in there, cant explain otherwise)! I suspect Conquerer and Togs. I didnt want to believe Togs was scum but if you go after my lynch-theory it seems reasonable, since he set on me twice (plus he suspects Holo too). So yeah, let me know what you guys think about that, does that make sense or am I just being paranoid? I would atleast like an input on that. Nonetheless I'm gonna vote for Conquerer since he just jumped in came outta nowhere, while apparently not knowing what was going on. And [b]I want to see Togs explain himself more, well I want to see them both explain more.[/b[ Vote Change: TheConquerer Now its for you to believe me or not. But I feel like no matter what I say it leads to my death anyway, I dont know what I'm doing wrong xD Yes I may be bad at investigating, but thats because I have no idea who possibly could be scum atm other than that its one of those people who are trying to lynch me. Okay there you go I've poured my heart out, thats what you wished for right [Panic-talk-action deactivated] xD Gwen’s response to my initial pressure. This is a very, very townie post. The towntells I’ve bolded in the above but I’ll also go through all of them. “Now I see the reason why I wasnt killed last night (because I was pretty sure I would be).” - Nightkill paranoia is a classic towntell because well obviously only townies should fear the nightkill. There is also the fact that town have a tendency to see themselves as “the protagonist of their own story” whereas scum see themselves as part of a team. Nightkill paranoia also indicates a sense of self-importance that town players are much more likely to have. “listen to me and think hard” “if you go after my lynch-theory” “Okay there you go I've poured my heart out” - Again there is a large sense of self-importance in her own case. There is definitely a sense here that this is the most thought Gwen has put into the game thus far and she is a little proud of doing so. All town indicators. Also approaching the gamestate with “theories” like this is a very townie mindset. “(plus he suspects Holo too).” - scum would have an aversion to saying this and lumping themselves with holo if they already knew she was scum. “I would atleast like an input on that.” “I want to see Togs explain himself more, well I want to see them both explain more.” - Calling for opinions shows that her mind is not on self-defense but on figuring out the game. Sure anyone can fake a towntell, but a huge amount of them in a post like this is a trend that I don’t think Gwen could fake as scum. Honestly if I saw just this post in isolation without knowing the context I would be 80-90% the poster was town from just this alone. But, Gwen has more towny posts to back her up: Gwendolly said: Togs said: Gwendolly said: Togs:- didn't see him comment much lately (more the observer type?) - got triggered when I was reacting to wen -> explains my reaction was scum behaviour when hes actually doing the same which is trying to point fingers at others to confuse town (so it doesnt make much sense to me) - trying to save coro? - thinks holo train is town (the ones that remained?) I outlined my case against you pretty clearly which is two specific points. One is that scum is likely to be found voting on an inconsequential wagon at the end of D1/D2, and the other is that scum would likely try to spread confusion in the town after using the janitor potion, after all the last 2 large games to fire had the scum do quite well for themselves using this strategy so I am sure that the scumteam this game would try to copy them in that respect. These were the 2 things I was looking for and I suspect you because you are the point where they intersect. Okay so I reread your post. How is it misinformation when its an actual fact? Wen was covered! Obviously scum move! Obvious fact! And you're seeing end day wagons as all-town. So I'm asking you AGAIN do you think wen was scum? And for your wagon-theory: You might aswell question Zombiewolf or Lupa (who even refused to vote on second day) too then, like I said I'm not the only one.You're walking right into your own trap! I hope town sees through this! New top three suspicion: Coro, CP & Togs I’ll mention here that it’s very natural for town players to suspect people voting for them. From their point of view they know they are town, so people who vote against them are therefore scummier, this is called “first-level reasoning.” From this post Gwen’s emotions are very clear, she is bewildered that I could be scumreading her after all she is the towniest player in the game to herself. These emotions are a lot harder to fake as scum because there is no bewilderment, they would know on some level that the accuser is right. Gwendolly said: Gwendolly said: Now I see the reason why I wasnt killed last night (because I was pretty sure I would be). Okay town listen to me and think hard, here are my thoughts: I thought I would die during yesterdays lynch but then it happened to be Holo, I then thought they decided to kill me during nightphase. But then I thought, if they're smart enough, they would let me live for now, kill someone else and lead me to a lynch again (since I was always in a suspicion of being scummy right?) and thats exactly what's happening now. I'm not sure if everyone on the train is scum as probably for most cases townies get dragged in, but if this succeeds and I die and you see I'm not scum; you got your targets (there has to be atleast 1-2 scum in there, cant explain otherwise)! Evidence: CorruptedPurity said: I honestly would still vote for her. At the very least, I would keep my word and vote for sithis. I wouldn't stray from what I said. I blatantly claimed that my only 2 votes for today would either be holo or sithis. If I went against my claim, wouldn't that be scummy? CorruptedPurity said: Gwen: The sudden vote drop out of nowhere without prior explanations is suspicious af. Definitely leaning towards scum. But I made my conviction on either Holo or Sithis earlier today and plan to keep to my words. She's a problem for tomorrow. CorruptedPurity said: I'm thinking about possible changes that may happen in the game. Am I scared of looking scummy? I wouldn't say scared but I would not want to appear scummy now would I? Regardless, I would stand by my words. Just like what's happening with Gwen which leads to your second question. The answer is no. Gwen is definitely more scummy than Holo is my books. But as I said, that's tomorrow's problem. I find Holo scummy enough currently to be awarded a lynch vote and I will not budge. I'm slowly puzzling this together. Think I'm done researching for now. Like I said I would like some kind of input and maybe from someone less scummy please. Read it and come to your own conclusion. I love the word usage here .. “puzzling” and “researching”. There are words a that town, aka the uninformed majority are more likely to use because they do see the game as a puzzle. And Gwen does see herself as a kind of mafia detective here. Gwendolly said: My instincts would say togs too, but if I leave now itll be a tie again, I think. Gwendolly said: Lord_Sithis said: _Claire_ said: I never said Suzune killed someone or that I based that on Lamby. But yeah, I just read Lamby's post. In fact, I voted Kota since I don't really suspect Suzune.Lord_Sithis said: Finally caught up! So it's Suzune or Kota. I really didn't like the way that Karote started a train and many people jumped onto it. It seems like Suzune is scum and Karote wanted to save her. That's suspicious. For now, I'll vote Kota since I suspect him more than Suzune, but I didn't like that thing. vote: Kota This is shallow. Everything was based on Lamby saying he saw Suzune killing someone which is a bluff. If you dont suspect suzune then vote togs, I would go for him too then..if not I'll stay put...or I dont even mind a tie right now This is the post that ppl seem to mostly be voting her over but I think it’s reasonable to come from a town mindset. I get the feeling she’s more like “correcting” Sithis on there only being 2 lynch options since he didn’t mention me at all. And honestly, town can be wrong all the time. The thing that’s telling about Gwen’s EoD vote is that she made her thought process clear throughout her posts. If you read through it you’ll see she was suspicious of Kota, then was worried about a tie, then decided to take a risk and break the tie.. this a lot more analysis and thoughts than bandwagoning scum usually put. Compare to posts like: KOtA said: Vote: Togs Which are genuinely scummy. Lol, starting to like Togs, he sees what others dont see. So yea glad you're back, slaying with your facts, I appreciate that. You better be townie again! |
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Oct 4, 2016 5:57 AM
#1976
Lord_Sithis said: coromandel said: Kota is my main suspect right now. He has done 0 things to help town. Like 0, absolute 0. If that's true, then most likely Karote is town, since he would never start a train on a scumbuddy. TheConqueror is defending Kota without a real reason, that's suspicious too. And about grrr, well, it's grrr.@Lord_Sithis @grrr @theconquerer @karote @gwendolly @lamby Who do you suspect is mafia, and why? KOtA said: well bc of some of their actions -_- I'm trying to understand your thought process, so ... I'd like to know why exactly you suspect each of them. I think Kota and TheConqueror might be mafia. Even though theConquerer voted for Suzune D4? He only voted for her that day, no one else. |
Oct 4, 2016 6:42 AM
#1977
coromandel said: If Kota is mafia then TheConqueror is defending him and talking bad about Togs and Gwendolly:Lord_Sithis said: coromandel said: @Lord_Sithis @grrr @theconquerer @karote @gwendolly @lamby Who do you suspect is mafia, and why? KOtA said: well bc of some of their actions -_- I'm trying to understand your thought process, so ... I'd like to know why exactly you suspect each of them. I think Kota and TheConqueror might be mafia. Even though theConquerer voted for Suzune D4? He only voted for her that day, no one else. TheConquerer said: eh I dont know, but Togs seems to be going out of his way to defend Gwendolly, maybe Im reading too much into it.. I dont want to vote Kota since when we votes on Suzunne, Kota would have been the next target early on before people went after Togs. I'm just gonna vote Gwendolly the more I look at Togs post the more it seems like an english essay rather than a post with actual merit. No offense Togs but some of your points are well, pointless. |
Oct 4, 2016 7:28 AM
#1978
π Vote Count 5.6π π KOtA (4)π | |π gwendolly, Karote, coromandel, grrrπ π Grrr (2)π | |π KOtA, Togsπ π Gwendolly (2)π | |π Lamby, TheConquererπ π coromandel (1)π | |π SightlessRealityπ π Not Voting π:| | π Rinto-kun , Lord_Sithis π |
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Oct 4, 2016 7:35 AM
#1979
Can someone explain what's the reason behind grr vote? |
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Oct 4, 2016 7:47 AM
#1980
@coromandel Weren't you going to lynch Claire/Rinto-kun? What happened to that? Well, I agree with lynching Kota, but I just want to know. |
Oct 4, 2016 8:00 AM
#1981
Lord_Sithis said: coromandel said: If Kota is mafia then TheConqueror is defending him and talking bad about Togs and Gwendolly:Lord_Sithis said: coromandel said: Kota is my main suspect right now. He has done 0 things to help town. Like 0, absolute 0. If that's true, then most likely Karote is town, since he would never start a train on a scumbuddy. TheConqueror is defending Kota without a real reason, that's suspicious too. And about grrr, well, it's grrr.@Lord_Sithis @grrr @theconquerer @karote @gwendolly @lamby Who do you suspect is mafia, and why? KOtA said: well bc of some of their actions -_- I'm trying to understand your thought process, so ... I'd like to know why exactly you suspect each of them. I think Kota and TheConqueror might be mafia. Even though theConquerer voted for Suzune D4? He only voted for her that day, no one else. TheConquerer said: eh I dont know, but Togs seems to be going out of his way to defend Gwendolly, maybe Im reading too much into it.. I dont want to vote Kota since when we votes on Suzunne, Kota would have been the next target early on before people went after Togs. I'm just gonna vote Gwendolly the more I look at Togs post the more it seems like an english essay rather than a post with actual merit. No offense Togs but some of your points are well, pointless. That's a pretty shallow analysis, though. "Talking bad" ? He doesn't agree with Togs and is scum-reading Gwendolly. I can understand why he's voting for her, I suspected her for the longest time too - and still do to some extend. We don't even know KOtA's alignment yet but you're already saying theConquerer's scum and defending KOtA? Weird. TheConquerer voted for Suzune during day 3 and never changed his vote. As scum, I'd expect him to vote for someone else, or to at least change his vote before phase change to save Suzune - it was a close call after all. But he did the exact opposite. So he's definitely not scum in my book. But I'm not so sure about you. |
Oct 4, 2016 8:07 AM
#1982
Lord_Sithis said: @coromandel Weren't you going to lynch Claire/Rinto-kun? What happened to that? Well, I agree with lynching Kota, but I just want to know. Yeah, I still suspect him. But I want to give him time to read everything that's happened so far. If I'd be the one replacing in, I wouldn't want everyone to lynch me while I'm backreading. Even if he's mafia, there should be around 2-3 others so I'm pressuring other suspects. Rinto-kun said: Can someone explain what's the reason behind grr vote? Why people are voting for him? He hasn't done anything town-ish so far, and he's hard to read. |
Oct 4, 2016 8:18 AM
#1983
coromandel said: Rinto-kun said: Can someone explain what's the reason behind grr vote? Why people are voting for him? He hasn't done anything town-ish so far, and he's hard to read. Aren't you describing me? xD |
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Oct 4, 2016 8:28 AM
#1984
Gwendolly said: TheConquerer said: eh I dont know, but Togs seems to be going out of his way to defend Gwendolly, maybe Im reading too much into it.. I dont want to vote Kota since when we votes on Suzunne, Kota would have been the next target early on before people went after Togs. I'm just gonna vote Gwendolly the more I look at Togs post the more it seems like an english essay rather than a post with actual merit. No offense Togs but some of your points are well, pointless. Thats not a legitimate reason to not vote for Kota. Also you again on my train? I see you mah boy! Well I mean if I can get a roleclaim between you or Kota maybe I'll change my mind ;D @Lord_Sithis Isnt the keyword, if? Im not the most attentive player but I forgot why everyone started thinking Kota was scum. Im not saying they arent. Ive just got more suspicions on Gwendolly and Togs analysis didnt really help. |
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Oct 4, 2016 8:31 AM
#1985
Rinto-kun said: coromandel said: Rinto-kun said: Can someone explain what's the reason behind grr vote? Why people are voting for him? He hasn't done anything town-ish so far, and he's hard to read. Aren't you describing me? xD lol x) How much have you read so far? |
Oct 4, 2016 8:32 AM
#1986
@Lord_Sithis I'm wondering why you haven't voted for anyone yet? |
Oct 4, 2016 8:39 AM
#1987
TheConquerer said: eh I dont know, but Togs seems to be going out of his way to defend Gwendolly, maybe Im reading too much into it.. I dont want to vote Kota since when we votes on Suzunne, Kota would have been the next target early on before people went after Togs. I'm just gonna vote Gwendolly the more I look at Togs post the more it seems like an english essay rather than a post with actual merit. No offense Togs but some of your points are well, pointless. What do you think is pointless ? Or do you just generally think behavioral analysis is hogwash, because if you do you're playing the wrong game.. You sound like you're begrudgingly voting Kota here. You don't have a scumread on her ? You're both right in the bullseye of the PoE and she's voting for you currently. Who do you think is scum ?? @KOta If I were you I'd be claiming right about now |
Oct 4, 2016 8:43 AM
#1990
TheConquerer said: Gwendolly said: TheConquerer said: eh I dont know, but Togs seems to be going out of his way to defend Gwendolly, maybe Im reading too much into it.. I dont want to vote Kota since when we votes on Suzunne, Kota would have been the next target early on before people went after Togs. I'm just gonna vote Gwendolly the more I look at Togs post the more it seems like an english essay rather than a post with actual merit. No offense Togs but some of your points are well, pointless. Thats not a legitimate reason to not vote for Kota. Also you again on my train? I see you mah boy! Well I mean if I can get a roleclaim between you or Kota maybe I'll change my mind ;D @Lord_Sithis Isnt the keyword, if? Im not the most attentive player but I forgot why everyone started thinking Kota was scum. Im not saying they arent. Ive just got more suspicions on Gwendolly and Togs analysis didnt really help. Well a not attentive player can also mean, that they rely on a team. It bothers me a bit that you're playing the "uninformed-card", it doesnt really help neither of us. Like can you actually explain why you think I'm more suspicious than Kota? |
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Oct 4, 2016 8:43 AM
#1991
coromandel said: Because I'm at school and things happen during classes. I'll vote once I finish catching up, I usually have time during 4th period (right now).@Lord_Sithis I'm wondering why you haven't voted for anyone yet? |
Oct 4, 2016 8:46 AM
#1992
Wait what? 15 minutes? Vote: Kota |
Oct 4, 2016 8:46 AM
#1993
Lord_Sithis said: coromandel said: Because I'm at school and things happen during classes. I'll vote once I finish catching up, I usually have time during 4th period (right now).@Lord_Sithis I'm wondering why you haven't voted for anyone yet? Did you have school 24 hrs? :P I'm wondering why you're doing it last minute, but okay. |
Oct 4, 2016 8:49 AM
#1994
π Vote Count 5.7π π KOtA (6)π | |π gwendolly, Karote, coromandel, grrr, Togs, Lord_Sithisπ π Gwendolly (2)π | |π Lamby, TheConquererπ π coromandel (1)π | |π SightlessRealityπ π Grrr (1)π | |π KOtAπ π Not Voting π:| | π Rinto-kun π |
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Oct 4, 2016 8:49 AM
#1995
coromandel said: When I wake up I go to school. I use 4th and 6th period to catch up. Then I get home, finish reading and start chilling (animu, games). Then I go to sleep and repeat.Lord_Sithis said: coromandel said: @Lord_Sithis I'm wondering why you haven't voted for anyone yet? Did you have school 24 hrs? :P I'm wondering why you're doing it last minute, but okay. |
Oct 4, 2016 9:00 AM
#1999
Final votes: π KOtA (6)π | |π gwendolly, Karote, coromandel, grrr, Togs, Lord_Sithisπ π Gwendolly (2)π | |π Lamby, TheConquererπ π coromandel (1)π | |π SightlessRealityπ π Grrr (1)π | |π KOtAπ π Not Voting π:| | π Rinto-kun π KOtA was lynched! He was.....? __________________________________________________________________ › Time until Day 6 ‹ Remember to send night actions to me ! |
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