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Jul 21, 2017 10:30 PM

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@abuhumaid re's claim #1574
Jul 21, 2017 10:44 PM
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yurkin said:
@abuhumaid re's claim #1574
thanks

@RE1031 nvm i just saw your claim, since you're unsure about my claim why don't you use your ability on me?
Jul 21, 2017 10:47 PM
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oh wait, it says passive abilities nevermind

Edit: but still, that kind of claim is easy to fake, you know
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Hmm thought the hybrids of either human spirit or human monster are mafia :D
Jul 21, 2017 11:15 PM

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That reminds me no one this game had claimed cop of a sort, i know we had at least one, was it theconq >: well too bad if it was him.
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AbuHumaid said:
oh wait, it says passive abilities nevermind

Edit: but still, that kind of claim is easy to fake, you know

If it comes to it, I'll claim who I used it on. But I'd prefer not to switch it around because once I've used my ability on someone, I can't go back to using it again on them.

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Hmm thought the hybrids of either human spirit or human monster are mafia :D

Man, I would have lynched you a long time ago if it weren't for your vote on Kit >.> Your ability is actually so useful to mafia since they can claim dead townie roles without being counterclaimed.
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
Jul 22, 2017 12:40 AM

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:D so lucky to get role with passive ability with you first try. I can only guess it was between coro/roy.
Jul 22, 2017 12:47 AM

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re #1656 "...they can claim dead townie roles without being conterclaimed "

:D that so fun, since the popular opinion is that lw was mafia along with kit, and he claimed nothing.
Is re saying there is more than 1 mafia alive hmm...
Jul 22, 2017 1:12 AM

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@Labs, @yurkin, @RE1031
Can you please give your reasons for voting Abu?

I'm torn on whether to believe his claim or not. It's really convenient to have no more shots left and no useful information. I can't help but feel that those tid bits of info were just lucky guesses. And I don't really understand his reasoning behind his votes, especially with coro. I have a theory for why he wants to lynch coro, and it's not from a town-mindset.
I don't mind lynching grrr either. Fairly certain it's down between those two. But we'll see.

I wanna hear that theory as well! o/
Jul 22, 2017 3:24 AM

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RE1031 said:
AbuHumaid said:
oh wait, it says passive abilities nevermind

Edit: but still, that kind of claim is easy to fake, you know

If it comes to it, I'll claim who I used it on. But I'd prefer not to switch it around because once I've used my ability on someone, I can't go back to using it again on them.

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Hmm thought the hybrids of either human spirit or human monster are mafia :D

Man, I would have lynched you a long time ago if it weren't for your vote on Kit >.> Your ability is actually so useful to mafia since they can claim dead townie roles without being counterclaimed.


I like that you think.
Jul 22, 2017 3:25 AM

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yurkin said:
re #1656 "...they can claim dead townie roles without being conterclaimed "

:D that so fun, since the popular opinion is that lw was mafia along with kit, and he claimed nothing.
Is re saying there is more than 1 mafia alive hmm...


Not that I can see, wanna confirm for us?
Jul 22, 2017 3:42 AM

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Labs said:
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re #1656 "...they can claim dead townie roles without being conterclaimed "

:D that so fun, since the popular opinion is that lw was mafia along with kit, and he claimed nothing.
Is re saying there is more than 1 mafia alive hmm...


Not that I can see, wanna confirm for us?

can't :<
Jul 22, 2017 4:08 AM

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Why didn't Conq tell us his role in his message?

Seems like an obvious thing to do, no? Once you're dead, that information isn't that useful to anyone except the town, right?

Hmm.
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Jul 22, 2017 4:20 AM

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In my opinion, tracker/watcher aren't easy abilities to claim by any means, and no-one is going to counterclaim Abu. Abu also had actual interaction with Kit; interaction that I didn't believe to be S/S at all. I mean, it's possible, but read Floof's walls on why its scummy for Kit, they do make sense... in a very correct kind of way.

In fact, I would be extremely surprised if Floofs even considered voting Abu, and I'm really curious where he'll place his vote, that is, if he ever does.
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Jul 22, 2017 4:28 AM

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Okay, I gave three names earlier: Lamb, Floofs, and Grr.
We have to lynch one of them today because I am somewhat confident that just about everyone else is likely to flip town.
Out of the claims between Lamb and Floofs, I believe Floofs is more likely to be a fakeclaim. Which is why I want to lynch him.
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Jul 22, 2017 4:30 AM

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I dont like it that no matter how you look at it I am a suitable lynch.

I claimed doctor and lamb is body guard and we have karote with protective role as well.

If mafia is either me or lamb he wont kill the other one.
If mafia is neither of me or lamb they will kill one of us probably or they risk to have their kill blocked.
(with probability at least 25%)

@logic, how many bullets do you have? I think you are priortiy for the mafia but priority for us to protect you as well.

who else has useful role.
floofs and abu are useless

coro? lotion roy?

Re - is there anyone with a passive ability that Re can use?

yurkin what exactly is your ability. more detailed claim please.
Jul 22, 2017 4:44 AM

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@grrr
I don't really see the you vs. Lamb conflict though.
You guys are claiming very different roles.
Also, Karote flipped town, so I think it's a very good guess to say that he actually was the doctor, and I'm still confused as to why you're claiming doc, unless you're the role that killed Last, then that'd kiinnnnddaaa make sense ennnhhh...

Also, what do you think about Lamb and RE claiming the same flavor?
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Jul 22, 2017 4:55 AM

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grrr said:

coro? lotion roy?


The legend strikes again.
Jul 22, 2017 4:59 AM

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LucianRoy said:
Why didn't Conq tell us his role in his message?

Seems like an obvious thing to do, no? Once you're dead, that information isn't that useful to anyone except the town, right?

Hmm.


Though I don't believe it should apply, we're dealing with some pretty Chad shit tbh.
So might wanna check this against host(s).

@Shinichi-Kun @Crossbell
"In the dead club you may discuss the game but due to the fact that the roles will not be shown on death you are not allowed to out your role in the dead chat, if you do so you will be removed from the chat."
The above applies only to what is said in the dead chat itself no and not elsewhere by someone within said club? not a general thing applied to anyone who is in the dead club/chat at any point in time throughout the game?
Jul 22, 2017 5:01 AM

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RE1031 said:
AbuHumaid said:
oh wait, it says passive abilities nevermind

Edit: but still, that kind of claim is easy to fake, you know

If it comes to it, I'll claim who I used it on. But I'd prefer not to switch it around because once I've used my ability on someone, I can't go back to using it again on them.

yurkin said:
Hmm thought the hybrids of either human spirit or human monster are mafia :D

Man, I would have lynched you a long time ago if it weren't for your vote on Kit >.>

+1

What was theconquerer's message again?
I think it did contain some kind of claim if I remember correctly..?
If it doesn't then that is strange.

I also think it's probably between Abu or grrr.
Labs claim sounds genuine, RE's as well.


grrr / yurkin / abu / floofs (/ labs, maybe)
One of them has to be scum.

I'll be back in a couple of hours.

Jul 22, 2017 5:04 AM

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LucianRoy said:
Why didn't Conq tell us his role in his message?

Seems like an obvious thing to do, no? Once you're dead, that information isn't that useful to anyone except the town, right?

Hmm.


Though I don't believe it should apply, we're dealing with some pretty Chad shit tbh.
So might wanna check this against host(s).

@Shinichi-Kun @Crossbell
"In the dead club you may discuss the game but due to the fact that the roles will not be shown on death you are not allowed to out your role in the dead chat, if you do so you will be removed from the chat."
The above applies only to what is said in the dead chat itself no and not elsewhere by someone within said club? not a general thing applied to anyone who is in the dead club/chat at any point in time throughout the game?


Ohhh, I missed this.
Hmm.
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Jul 22, 2017 5:08 AM

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Labs said:
2 flavour informed TPR claims up already?
What's the worse that could happen.

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Add your names to the list:

Avery Herb
Geoffrey Gwenaël
Rozalia Jowita
Sindy Ulyssa
Jaycob Bronte
Jia Ling
Sayen Itzel - Laby
Jett Titus
Suzume Kumiko
Alban Aleksander - someone claimed this but forgot who
Tristan Faust - "Zymf's target"
Flann Liam
Lindsey Cosette - Grrr
Marilynn Charissa
Peter Vinzenz


I'll just fix this up with some bold seeing as there's little to no reaction even now and this was planned for Zymf primarily or bait for whoever it should have concerned.
Jul 22, 2017 5:10 AM

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Labs said:
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2 flavour informed TPR claims up already?
What's the worse that could happen.



I'll just fix this up with some bold seeing as there's little to no reaction even now and this was planned for Zymf primarily or bait for whoever it should have concerned.


Also I just realized I'd been messing up my stupid statements this game.
I actually forgot to say "come at me bro" and had completely left bro out koz it feels horrible.
Jul 22, 2017 5:11 AM

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coromandel said:
grrr / yurkin / abu / floofs (/ labs, maybe)
One of them has to be scum.

I'll be back in a couple of hours.

Ok, to keep my options open I could see Yurkin being scum, but that would mean I would have to buy into the narrative that they bussed their buddy Kit all the way from RVS up to the their lynch, (which I really don't), but other than that, you're correct, Yurk isn't cleared.

The only other name I have a qualm with on that list is Abu, and I mentioned some reasons why in 1664.
Other than that it's cool with me.
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Jul 22, 2017 5:31 AM

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re #1656 "hmm thought the hybrids of either human spirit or human monster are mafia"
"man, i would have lynched you a long ago if it waren't for your vote on kit >.> "

Why exactly on this one my post though? Kit was human monster, im assuming the other from there, whether is right or not.

To begin with justifing based solely on vote count wasnt idea of my liking.
Jul 22, 2017 5:41 AM

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coro #1670 floofs message from theconq #1457
Jul 22, 2017 7:04 AM

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3 protective town roles seems like a bit much but it appears we had a killing tpr, my killing role, and Mafioso so I guess that much protection could be possible? @yurkin you say that skittles row was to die in place of the townie he possessed correct? It's it just me or does this also sounds like a bodyguard type ability?
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Jul 22, 2017 7:15 AM

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logic340 said:
3 protective town roles seems like a bit much but it appears we had a killing tpr, my killing role, and Mafioso so I guess that much protection could be possible? @yurkin you say that skittles row was to die in place of the townie he possessed correct? It's it just me or does this also sounds like a bodyguard type ability?

Well yeah but he will not achieve his wincon if he die early so dunno if it can be counted as protecive role. Plus i forgot to tell the small detail about his role i mentioned previously - overall the possessed one will appear as mafia for the time of possession, while skittles will appear as town, so its give and take sort of thing :3
Jul 22, 2017 7:25 AM

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logic340 said:
3 protective town roles seems like a bit much but it appears we had a killing tpr, my killing role, and Mafioso so I guess that much protection could be possible? @yurkin you say that skittles row was to die in place of the townie he possessed correct? It's it just me or does this also sounds like a bodyguard type ability?

You realize our actual doctor died last night and grr is fakeclaiming again, correct?
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Jul 22, 2017 7:27 AM

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Oh wait, my bad, no give and take stuff, both will appear as mafia for the time of possession.
Jul 22, 2017 7:34 AM

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LucianRoy said:
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3 protective town roles seems like a bit much but it appears we had a killing tpr, my killing role, and Mafioso so I guess that much protection could be possible? @yurkin you say that skittles row was to die in place of the townie he possessed correct? It's it just me or does this also sounds like a bodyguard type ability?

You realize our actual doctor died last night and grr is fakeclaiming again, correct?

It will be a real surprise if grr claimed his real role instead lol
Jul 22, 2017 7:37 AM

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I wont be home till like 1 hour before phase change, so if anyone can keep track of the votes that be nice


Jul 22, 2017 7:38 AM

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LucianRoy said:
Why didn't Conq tell us his role in his message?

Seems like an obvious thing to do, no? Once you're dead, that information isn't that useful to anyone except the town, right?

Hmm.
it's possible due to the rule that the dead can't reveal their role in the club but that seems like a leap in logic? I do wish there was more but with what we did get does this really feel faked?
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yurkin said:
logic340 said:
3 protective town roles seems like a bit much but it appears we had a killing tpr, my killing role, and Mafioso so I guess that much protection could be possible? @yurkin you say that skittles row was to die in place of the townie he possessed correct? It's it just me or does this also sounds like a bodyguard type ability?

Well yeah but he will not achieve his wincon if he die early so dunno if it can be counted as protecive role. Plus i forgot to tell the small detail about his role i mentioned previously - overall the possessed one will appear as mafia for the time of possession, while skittles will appear as town, so its give and take sort of thing :3
hmm...that's quite interesting. If this is true then it means we should have an cop role?
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logic340 said:
LucianRoy said:
Why didn't Conq tell us his role in his message?

Seems like an obvious thing to do, no? Once you're dead, that information isn't that useful to anyone except the town, right?

Hmm.
it's possible due to the rule that the dead can't reveal their role in the club but that seems like a leap in logic? I do wish there was more but with what we did get does this really feel faked?

From that message, there's really nothing to latch onto imo. Is tone really the best we have in believing Floofs claim to be true? Thus are we solely reading floofs town on the basis of tone? It doesn't hold up. This is late-game.
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LucianRoy said:
logic340 said:
3 protective town roles seems like a bit much but it appears we had a killing tpr, my killing role, and Mafioso so I guess that much protection could be possible? @yurkin you say that skittles row was to die in place of the townie he possessed correct? It's it just me or does this also sounds like a bodyguard type ability?

You realize our actual doctor died last night and grr is fakeclaiming again, correct?
yeah probably....just trying to sort though some info.
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Jul 22, 2017 7:42 AM

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I know I said this day 2, but now it's still really Key that we follow through.
We have to find the scum on Kit's train, and we still haven't. The three names I gave that day were Coro, Lamb, and Floofs. Two names still on everyone's lists: Lamb and Floofs.
Abu is a dead wagon.
By avoiding these names we're only making it harder for ourselves as we approach the latest of the late game.
But allegedly, we're 7-1, in best case scenario no bastard schenanigans game.
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Jul 22, 2017 7:47 AM

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logic340 said:
yurkin said:

Well yeah but he will not achieve his wincon if he die early so dunno if it can be counted as protecive role. Plus i forgot to tell the small detail about his role i mentioned previously - overall the possessed one will appear as mafia for the time of possession, while skittles will appear as town, so its give and take sort of thing :3
hmm...that's quite interesting. If this is true then it means we should have an cop role?

Yeah we should have, thats why i said before i know there exist at least one cop role.
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LucianRoy said:
logic340 said:
it's possible due to the rule that the dead can't reveal their role in the club but that seems like a leap in logic? I do wish there was more but with what we did get does this really feel faked?

From that message, there's really nothing to latch onto imo. Is tone really the best we have in believing Floofs claim to be true? Thus are we solely reading floofs town on the basis of tone? It doesn't hold up. This is late-game.
I really don't feel the vote from kit was scum theatre as I started D1 as he continued posting. I mean we know for a fact grrr had fake claimed twice and Labs fake claimed RE's flavour these ate more conclusive than speculating floofs claim and I'd be more comfortable lynching one of them today over Floods or Abu honestly.


Why did they chose to role block me again. This is my theory:
I voted labs late voting my suspicion basically telegraph I'd try to kill him last bight. If he's town why was I role blocked? Why not let me kill a townie for them? Weak but it's allo cab come up with.
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Though I hope it doesn't come to this if we somehow mislynch today then I have a great chance of finally getting a shot off tonight. From what I have gathered from humans, human/monster, and human/spirit a body will be doing no matter what.

I'm more than comfortable targeting labs again but I'd like everyone to give be their two choices from now.
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logic340 said:
LucianRoy said:

From that message, there's really nothing to latch onto imo. Is tone really the best we have in believing Floofs claim to be true? Thus are we solely reading floofs town on the basis of tone? It doesn't hold up. This is late-game.
I really don't feel the vote from kit was scum theatre as I started D1 as he continued posting. I mean we know for a fact grrr had fake claimed twice and Labs fake claimed RE's flavour these ate more conclusive than speculating floofs claim and I'd be more comfortable lynching one of them today over Floods or Abu honestly.


Why did they chose to role block me again. This is my theory:
I voted labs late voting my suspicion basically telegraph I'd try to kill him last bight. If he's town why was I role blocked? Why not let me kill a townie for them? Weak but it's allo cab come up with.

So you're saying Lamb is probably the last scum. Bit at the end is a little wifomy, but the thoughts above it are definitely not.
He's in my PoE pool too.
That is cool with me.

Vote: Labs

That self-vote earlier was weak.
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Jul 22, 2017 8:07 AM

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Why you were blocked logic depends of the intention on the members of the dead chat at that time. 1 mafia, 2tpr, 1 town, who was there to vote that night and ect. Really shame, if that message is really coming from the conquirer why he doesnt mention some reason for blocking this and that player and etc.
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logic340 said:
Though I hope it doesn't come to this if we somehow mislynch today then I have a great chance of finally getting a shot off tonight. From what I have gathered from humans, human/monster, and human/spirit a body will be doing no matter what.

I'm more than comfortable targeting labs again but I'd like everyone to give be their two choices from now.

If we lynch lambs today, and he ends up miraculously flipping town, then without a doubt Floofs should be your target.
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Jul 22, 2017 8:52 AM

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is logic confirmed town by the way?

no one counter claimed role blocked?
Jul 22, 2017 8:54 AM

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is logic confirmed town by the way?

no one counter claimed role blocked?

Yeah, pretty much.

He was RB'd by kit n1. That basically says it all.
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so, logic is confirmed,

floofs, labs, re are almost certainly town

mafia is among:
coro, lucian, abu, yurkin

yurkin and lucian are my best bets...
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LucianRoy said:
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is logic confirmed town by the way?

no one counter claimed role blocked?

Yeah, pretty much.

He was RB'd by kit n1. That basically says it all.

n1 is not so important. n3 is important...
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Why you were blocked logic depends of the intention on the members of the dead chat at that time. 1 mafia, 2tpr, 1 town, who was there to vote that night and ect. Really shame, if that message is really coming from the conquirer why he doesnt mention some reason for blocking this and that player and etc.
by the time we got that message only lamb and I had been blocked we know why I kit blocked me night one that's pretty self-explanatory not knowing why lamb got block night two is question and on Night 3 when I was blocked again there's actually two Mafia to tpr and one town in the dead chat
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@ logic, how do you read lamb self-voting when the town blitzed him earlier in the day?
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Oh no cfd here we come.
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