"Omae Gotoki ga Maou ni Kateru to Omouna" to Yuusha Party wo Tsuihou sareta node, Outo de Kimama ni Kurashitai Episode 1 Discussion

The manga is actually a decent revenge dark fantasy story. It has good art and nice action, and a ton of detailed gore.

Unfortunately, this show doesn't capture at all the same feeling I got from reading the manga (at the time of writing this I only read 16 chapters).

So, the art overall it got downgraded to a more streamlined "slop" Isekai look to it. Especially the faces of the main MC girls look a little too clean. The whole show has a too clean look to it which is in complete opposition to how the manga is drawn.

The animation is the bare minimum, so far. A ton of cuts to black when slashing then an after scene with dark silloutes. Nothing special. Very meh.

Now, the gore looks way to fucking goofy. They didn't censored per say, but it looks off idk how to put it, but just read the first 2 chapter and you will see what I am saying; one of the main aspects that drew me into reading it was the amount of detailed gory parts during the ghoul scene, like extremely gory and fuckt up shit, especially later on when revenge happens.

I find it funny how the OP keeps recycling the same "eating" part of the ghouls and it looks so bad because they cheaped out on the gore. Also that skull face part lol.

But with how the story is going to unravel, so far from what I have read (2-3 chapters per episode), it will be a much better and satisfying revenge story than last seasons, Mugen Gacha; much much better.

7/10

Never read the source material, but while I like the premise of the anime the implementation is not great so far. It simply leaves nothing to be inferred or discovered later, bad guys are bluntly stated as being bad and their motivations are plainly stated in voice overs or monologues... just why?

Sure the A rank guy was a bit suspect, but they didn't need to show a scene of him sending them to a D rank quest nor have a voice over explaining his fake A rank. Also didn't need to have a scene of the Sage guy explaining his motivations for no reason all in the first episode.

Seems like this could be a good anime, but the people in charge of making it are not doing a good job of it.

"its for her own good" ??? to sell her as a slave? good?
also how do you just sell someone as a slave like that? "lol i sold my friend as a slave, it was a funny joke" :D?

that guild woman was dumb. dismissed them for being slaves, told them so sell their bodies and then was like "but theyll die D:" when that guy made them do a D-rank quest.

looks like so far everyone is a rotten ass hole in this show. we'll see if the two will meet anyone decent.

@CommanderZx2 I personally like that they "explained" why the sage wanted her out, pretty tired of all these shows where the MC is fired from the hero party for apparently no reason at all, just because it is the trope we are doing
furthermore these people kicking the MC out are always dumb and incompetent, firing the MC for being "useless", when the MC is obviously strong
at that point she really was useless, and the sage has a concrete reason for getting rid of her, he is very much evil alright, but I am rather taking this over these people usually just being morons

for the A rank guy, I don't think he is important enough for this to be a big reveal later, and it serves to show the conflict between how our MC sees him as a nice guy who stood up for her, when in reality he is just a scumbag who sent her to die

That's not what happened at all. Jean convinced Cyrill that it would be for the best for Flum to go back to her home village. That was clearly explained. The part of selling her into slavery was done behind the others' backs.


You've seen a handful of interactions and just assume "everybody is cartoonishly evil for absolutely no reason", even though the reason was already hinted at (them being slaves and slaves generally being mistreated). On one hand you complain about immature writing, on the other hand you're unable to infer this easy piece of information as soon as it isn't spelled out to you. ^^'

You also wrongly assume that she's now "the strongest" (she totally is not) and she also didn't receive the weapon randomly. I'm not the biggest fan of the anime adaptation so far btw, but this jumping to conclusions based on not paying attention and jumping to conclusions is kinda amusing, maybe even "childish". ^^'

My biggest gripe so far is that the anime is cutting out way too much of Flum's inner monologue and of how she was mistreated as a slave, just like the manga did. In the LN she barely gets any food for weeks, except for moldy bread, gets beaten and kicked for not being able to get sold until she vomits the little food she gets out again. That treatment is what breaks her. When she kills the slave trader in the LN, she cuts off his limbs one after another before splitting his skull and commenting on the stench coming out of it and on how ironic it is after he told that woman in the cell before that she stank. Before killing him she also contemplates about whether killing him is ok but she concludes that after the way he treated her that he basically was not different from the ghouls that attacked her in the cell, he was a monster not a human, just a piece of meat and then kills him. She also realizes how messed up her way of thinking has become, that something broke inside her.

It's an absolute shame that none of that made it into the manga or anime as Flum's personality hinges on the horrible experiences she went through in the beginning of the story. In my opinion it makes her a relatively shallow character without much depth, which is a shame.

"its for her own good" ??? to sell her as a slave? good?
also how do you just sell someone as a slave like that? "lol i sold my friend as a slave, it was a funny joke" :D?

that guild woman was dumb. dismissed them for being slaves, told them so sell their bodies and then was like "but theyll die D:" when that guy made them do a D-rank quest.

looks like so far everyone is a rotten ass hole in this show. we'll see if the two will meet anyone decent.

@HiljainenSipuli so far I think the only truly evil character in the hero party is the sage, he convinced Cyrill and the others, that the MC is just too weak and it is a struggle for her to be in the party (which is true), so it was best for her to quit and go home (also true)
the others don't know that he actually sold her off to slavery

the guild woman was "pretty nice", she probably seen plenty of people like them who look really weak, but try to be an adventurer to make money, because there is no other way of making money in the slums, and of course end up dying because they are weak
by selling their bodies at least they won't die
she doesn't know that Apricot actually is strong enough to make it as an adventurer

@imSOunique I don't mind him explaining why, but it should be better implemented. He's just standing there shouting it at a wall for no reason. Also it's bizarre to unveil that immediately rather than have it come up later, such as a scene of him talking to another scumbag while out drinking together.

Regarding the A rank guy, the story breaks the 4th wall to have narration come on and tell us he is a fake A rank, even though that doesn't matter at all for the story or scene. Why even include it.

Not everyone is evil. It's just a fairly cynical world. The light novel is actually pretty interesting in that despite the grimdark setting and all the evil people and assholes, it manages to somehow maintain a surprisingly optimistic tone.

All the villains so far*

There are female villains as well, though I'm unsure whether one season would be enough for them to be introduced.

Basically: Even if they're a freed slave, they're still a slave. Slave is an occupation but also a social rank.

There's a lot more depth to the series than there may seem to be at first. There's just not much depth to some of these early villains. Jean, for example, is an immature narcissist who thinks he's better than basically everyone. And even when he doesn't think he's better than someone, he still tends to treat them like crap. His egocentric personality, lack of maturity, and his belief that he's the smartest person around is what lead him to spell everything out the way he did. The slave trader he sold Flum to and Dein are both just trash people. There's a number of characters that are much more complex than them, including some of the other good guys.

It's actually not like that at all. There's a number of decent male characters. They just won't end up being properly introduced for awhile. It also doesn't portray all female characters as good either. The girl at the guild, for example, is nothing but a vapid bitch. Even later when her attitude approves, she's still extremely bitchy. There's also some female villains as well. That said, since it's a yuri series, the amount of female characters on Flum's side does outweigh the amount of male characters on Flum's side. But it's not some feminist-minded thing. And honestly, I was surprised to even see anyone make a complaint like that.

Seriously. Some of the ways she's gotten her ass kicked in the LN has made me cringe. There's one in particular pretty late in that was especially bad in I want to say volume 3 or 4.

That's just because Jean is immature, narcissistic, and entitled. That's basically him unloading his frustrations with Flum. I haven't watched the first episode just yet so I don't know how it plays out compared to the LN but I'm guessing that it's missing his internal monologue like many series do. That inner monologue makes it a lot more clear than his words just why he's unloading like that.

@Pit93 you took my post out of context, granted i didnt give it much context :D
the evil guy in the party said "its for her own good" to cyrill, no? cyrill knew about the slave thing, so he meant that selling flum as a slave was good for her(flum) thats how i understood that scene.


that sounds cool, whish it had been like that. i often find myself chanting "kill him" in scenes like that and then the anime always does "but im the good guy, killing is bad!11!!". though had that not been cut out this show probably needed to have been 24eps long, it also doesnt sound like something people would like in the first episode(s), theyd get bored and drop it (i assume).
i dont know how the source story goes, but usually when ive seen a character actually lose it they soon realize theyve screwed up and everything gets back to normal which is always sad. i want a character to snap totally for once or leave proper lasting effects on them apart from just a trauma.

If that's the case, that just makes it even more fucked up that someone with no relationship (at best "work colleague") can just arbitrarily sell you into slavery, permanently. Imagine how often that'd happen.

And the slave trader saw the guy claim she was useless, it's his own fault if he paid a lot for her.

check out the first yuri of season to see, and yet another ass reduplicate.
hope im wrong.