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| While Ghost in the Shell, was and still is an excellent movie I can't help but feel as though the new CG scenes in 2.0 are unnecessary and would even go so far as it hurts the atmosphere of the film. For anyone interested in Ghost in the Shell I will not hesitate to recommend the original 1995 version over this. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| That was so much better than the first one dialog wise. Everything seems to make sense, in the first one I was like : "ok whatever stfu already and get to the point?" 8/10 for this one, Next is the "sequel" of either of these two. |
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| I didn't like the CGI at all, but I did like the sound effects and the female casting for Project 2501. I'd still recommend the original over this but I wouldn't say all the changes were for the worse. |
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| Some impressions/discussion/screen shots. http://randomc.net/2012/06/06/blast-from-the-past-ghost-in-the-shell-movie/ |
| I found this link posted here awhile ago: Comparison between Theatrical Version and Ghost in the Shell 2.0 |
| so this is it ? All there is to it is that they merged together just like that without any spicy thingy to connect and escalate things. I feel like if i skipped the important part. i miss something just dunno what. (seen all SAC and that was much better) Maybe i should have watched original instead of this 3d/2d hybrid but again plot is supposed to be same right ? It kept me watching from beginning to the end but also it had its flaws so i give it 8/10 (It almost seems like im being really harsh here after hearing all that its legendary anime etc but i can't help it) Sent with Mal Updater |
greenmartyAug 11, 2012 2:46 PM
( Currently interested in OP MC genre. Recommendations are welcomed, preferable those yet not on my list ) |
dtshyk said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. 3. Sakakibara Yoshiko as the Puppet Master This is the biggest difference. The Puppet Master was called "she" not "he". I felt so much incongruous about this casting. At the last part when Motoko and the Puppet Master was about to merge, I understood the meaning of this sex exchange. "You and I are alike. Mirror image to each other." Tanaka Atsuko and Sakakibara Yoshiko have similar voices. I think Director Oshii tried to emphasize the similarity between the two characters by replacing the original voice actor Kayumi Iemasa. With Kayumi's voice, the merge appeared sexal, but in the new version it's more pure fusion of the two. Oh so that's why they sounded different. I originally watched this dubbed, so when I heard them call her a "she", and spoke like a she, I thought someone from corporate screwed up. Thanks for clearing that up, dtshyk! |
| Pointless CGI Major is pointless. Why is it even there? Sure it's only like for 2 minutes total, but every other character is still 2D animated. I dont mind the CGI vehicles and backgrounds, but seriously: The Major herself?! Hell naw! Why add the orange teal filter? If it's because they wanted to distance themselves from blue/green look of The Matrix, they shouldn't have because GITS came out first! If it's because they wanted it to look more like the sequel "Innocence" then fair enough, but i still feel it's a rather pointless change. Besides those faults it's still the same classic sci fi anime we all know and love - 8/10 |
SteampunkDalekJan 3, 2013 1:48 PM
| Well, the CGI was kinda annoying to watch tbh. I still liked the beginning though but Makoto looked quite strange in those animation. So pretty good action scenes especially when Major took on that tank. And yes, the Puppet Master seems to be a female in this film. Oh well, still enjoyed the hell out of it. 8/10 as well. |
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| great movie, but not better than the original one. for the my film's impressions look at here: http://xss.now.cc/forum/?topicid=65095&show=40 i watched 2.0 RIGHT after the original movie and i can instantly tell the difference. what i didn't like: as others said, the CGI is awful, it really breaks the immersion from the film and feels disconnected and out of place. especially the scenes like the helicopter and the underwater dive scene. i prefer the underwater dive scene in 2D since it's much better looking and they made a reflection of Major as she floats to the surface, 2.0 didn't have any of that. i also think the boat scene with Batou appearing to check on Major didn't appeared before the underwater dive scene so that's the only scene i think that it was cut they also removed the green filler and replaced it with orange one. not bad, but i prefer the original green look. Guns sounds and effect felt really weak. when Major and Batou was chasing that illegal immigrant on the super market, the P90 gun he was using didn't sound so terrifying compared to the original movie. the original one felt like he was shooting in intense speed and ammo, the 2.0 felt bland and weak, i do like that it also took account the environment so you can really here the bullets blazing through the walls and waters. What i like about this edition: the animation seems to be improved, it more's lighter now which could be a good or bad thing. good thing since you can now see the environment and characters much better, bad thing it removed what made the film so dark and amazing. still amazing, but i prefer the dark one. i actually like on how they changed "Puppet Master"'s voice to a woman :) it made sense since he was neither he or she, so whatever body he took control of it became it's "default" voice. plus it makes the "merging" of becoming one much better. i also noticed Sakakibara Yoshiko voice was played when the "Ghost" whispered through Batou and Major after the underwater dive scene, while the original and it look like it was being voiced by Major herself in a more lower tone voiced. speaking of voices, some of the tone got changed. Batou scream at the end is more terrified in the first film, while here is much more gruff which is not bad at all :P either way is good, but i kinda like his first scream since it reminded me of his Metal Gear Solid 1 voice which he played after the original film :) on a side note, i also wish The Boss's from Metal Gear Solid 3 was voiced by Atsuko Tanaka. it would have made the relationship between The Boss and Naked Snake much MUCH more intense! though Kikuko Inoue is not bad AT ALL, she's amazing as The Boss, but would have love to have Major vs Batou!!! it also seems Major's voice is much more stern and mature compared to her soft voice and gentle voice in the original film. especially when she was conversing with the "Puppet Master" she sounded more of her Stand Alone Complex voice. same thing with Batou dtshyk said: Minor differences 1. In the legendary scene "The net is vast.", orange lights reflected on Motoko's face. The city she was looking down was fully redrawn with 3D CGI. 2. When Motoko and the Puppet Master merged, Motoko saw an angel-like shadow coming down from the sky in the original version. In 2.0, it was not an angel but a flood of rays from the cyber brain networks. 3. As Ootsuka Akio mentioned in the interview, the conversation between Motoko and Batou was slightly "lighter" compared to the original one. thanks for this! yeah noticed at the end before Major was shot the original had an Angel while here it had rays of cyber network. actually the conversation was lighter, but the voices are much more mature. makes sense since they were still doing Stand Alone Complex series ^^ amazing stuff! still an amazing movie, but prefer the original one. They should have kept 2D animation all throughout, keep the green filler, make the scenes darker and at the same time a little light just to see some of the characters. keep Sakakibara Yoshiko as "Puppet Master" i don't mind Batou and Motoko using the Stand Alone Complex voices, but make the scream of Batou much louder and terrifying like in the original film and Stand Alone Complex series. this would have been perfect IMO. anyways still an amazing show and i'm very surprised on how little the comments are in this threads O___O now on to Innocence and it's Absolute Edition! i give it a 10/10 while the original film was 20/10!!! the original is STILL the Best Cyberpunk Film ever! |
| Damn that CGI sucked (it's honestly off-putting), little differences here & there take so much away, after watching it I had a quick look at the dub & my god I feel sorry for you if you watched the entirety of it like that .... "Version 2.0" lol no someone change the god-damn title please :/ so misleading. That scene where she tries to rip open the tank is 1 of the best, truly. It goes without saying, but: I prefer the original 1. It was just a re-market wasn't it?, improvement??, no? |
Lo-Lee-TaJun 3, 2014 3:19 PM
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| Mostly the same as the original movie. The new colours were alright. The CG was bad compared to the original animated parts. Overall I'd say it's worse just because of the CG. I preferred the Puppet Master being male. No real reason to watch this, especially for people who are going into GITS for the first time. |
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| Nice enhancements in sound and animation. Not too much, which was okay. Liked it :3 |
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| I didn't enjoyed the CGI that much, either the lighting changes of the movie. This one is still good, but the original one it's better! |
| The graphics improved but not by much, the CG felt out of place though the movie was good shizuokai said: but the original one it's better! |
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| Holy what the fuck. This left me longing for more. |
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| Firstly, the CG scenes were horrible. Secondly for whatever reason i understood and enjoyed it a lot more than i did the original, don't know if somethings were dumbed down or if i've grown smarter over the past few years since i saw the original :P |
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| Nothing against the 3D CGI scenes themselves but the switching between CGI and the old animation didn't look very good to me. Prefer the original over this one. |
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On_the_Lam said: Is there a particular reason why Oshii chose two incredible scenes from the original to be reanimated completely in CGI, or did he simply think (shitty) CGI is "cool"? I haven't watched this yet and probably never will, and I might be wrong, but my understanding was that this project wasn't necessarily his idea, that it was more that Production IG wanted to show off their then new 3D CGI technologies in as flashy a way as possible. It's more like a tech demo than anything else, it was only shown in a small amount of theaters in japan. |
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| I went and watched this movie the other day at local anime society. Was quite a deep movie, so it was pretty good for philosophy as it made itself out to be. Liked the visuals a lot. Will get to the 95 version soon. |
| The 1995 animation is better than the CGI they replaced some iconic scenes with. 3.5/10 - Very bad. |
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