Tainted said: Shinichi-Kun said: the way I see it that train is obviously just some kind of reaction test.Togs vote wasnt rvs? He wanted to start a train, rvs votes are random togs vote on pokeit had a reason behind it hench it was not random therefore not rvs lol. Empty pressure is meaningless @Togs how bout you explain some stuffs? We're past rvs stage now it's time to scum hunt. Reaction from what an rvs? |
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Tainted said: though I don't agree with him on things his response so far is towny.. Exactly why i am waiting for togs to say something on the matter |
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ironace said: Like, this isn't the only input you're gonna provide right? Thoughts on Pokeit? Thoughts on basically any other user?Why would tar hint at it so early? Didn't I say that it was the tpr with that win con of getting lynched?why wouldn't he try to appear scummy so early. And yeah. Lazy post. I'm tired. I just gave what little thoughts I had. |
abhutrash said: ironace said: Like, this isn't the only input you're gonna provide right? Thoughts on Pokeit? Thoughts on basically any other user?Why would tar hint at it so early? Didn't I say that it was the tpr with that win con of getting lynched?why wouldn't he try to appear scummy so early. And yeah. Lazy post. I'm tired. I just gave what little thoughts I had. and he wonders why hes always mislynch fodder |
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| on mobile atm noted: Trash in #201 @abhutrash why did u vote Ruu, ur neutral read, for voting Pokeit? what read did u have on Pokeit to whiteknight him so soon? also, what did u think my plan was? u say u have an idea, so I wanna hear it. @lastwhisper31 judging from #201, Trash and Ruu might not be aligned. u didn't notice that? gotta admit it weirded me out that I get a townread so early, esp when my actions are always scumread, but not sure if I see any red flags besides that. anddd it looks like that scumread is set in stone for u, since I see ur scumleaning Shin for not agreeing - that right? please elaborate on ur reasons if ur so sure. @Shinichi it's hard to read thread with ur posts jeez but, looks like u mentioned "welcoming the spotlight"... townslip? lol @yurkin All Hallows Eve saw Last only contradicting for a defense iirc, nothing like this. then again, ur voting with him. pointless point, ain't it? |
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| @phraze it's not that shin doesn't see what I see it, it's more like he's just overly friendly with abuh and just down plays everything I said, and as someone who attacks literally everything... It's rubbing me the wrong way. And I see what ur saying about Ruu and Abuh. And ya I'd say this scum read is set and stone at this point |
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lastwhisper31 said: I remember him doing that in Berseria tbh. gonna stick with meta until in-game evidence prove otherwise~ but I see what u mean.@phraze it's not that shin doesn't see what I see it, it's more like he's just overly friendly with abuh and just down plays everything I said, and as someone who attacks literally everything... It's rubbing me the wrong way. And I see what ur saying about Ruu and Abuh. And ya I'd say this scum read is set and stone at this point we got a starting point then. do u think Ruu is scum? #201 looks like t/t or t/s, not s/s. next, do u think Pokeit is scum? both of em link back to Trash. figuring him out should give us an idea of the others. (and I'm picking ur brain atm lol) |
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Phraze said: @ScarletCelestial D1 lynches are almost always town fyi. rare cases when they bus or town consist of competent players (which I doubt is the current case). @logic340 noticed u mentioned me few times. what are u trying to say here: careful of me, or scumreading? @riku half wondering if ur trying to be Roz v2 so u can coast. give us an idea of ur mindset plz I don't think I ever said anything to the contrary? |
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ScarletCelestial said: then why did u bring up the point of a prev game mislynching on D1? sounds like u think town should lynch correctly on D1s.Phraze said: @ScarletCelestial D1 lynches are almost always town fyi. rare cases when they bus or town consist of competent players (which I doubt is the current case). @logic340 noticed u mentioned me few times. what are u trying to say here: careful of me, or scumreading? @riku half wondering if ur trying to be Roz v2 so u can coast. give us an idea of ur mindset plz I don't think I ever said anything to the contrary? |
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| @abhutrash I'm starting to see why wisp pointed out the amount of meta ash uses, but it isn't their entire case. On top of that, I don't think they've explained their read on Tainted well. Why are they likely scum? |
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Phraze said: then why did u bring up the point of a prev game mislynching on D1? sounds like u think town should lynch correctly on D1s. It wasn't that it was a mislynch, my point was that I scumread someone who I felt was obviously scummy because of the ISO and without much interaction, but was Town. Ergo, I want to maintain distance until I've interacted with them. |
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Phraze said: @Shinichi it's hard to read thread with ur posts jeez but, looks like u mentioned "welcoming the spotlight"... townslip? lol Plz dont town slip me, everyone that says i town slipp turns out to be scum. My posts are wonderful :D Phraze said: Vote: @Ruu #201 if I had to pick Ruu is more suspicious for ....doublechecking? need some idea of this slot at least Lets not forget who over complicated answer to such a simple question lastwhisper31 said: @phraze it's not that shin doesn't see what I see it, it's more like he's just overly friendly with abuh and just down plays everything I said, and as someone who attacks literally everything... It's rubbing me the wrong way. And I see what ur saying about Ruu and Abuh. And ya I'd say this scum read is set and stone at this point I dont down play everything you say, you may be right and i may be wrong. |
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ScarletCelestial said: Phraze said: then why did u bring up the point of a prev game mislynching on D1? sounds like u think town should lynch correctly on D1s. It wasn't that it was a mislynch, my point was that I scumread someone who I felt was obviously scummy because of the ISO and without much interaction, but was Town. Ergo, I want to maintain distance until I've interacted with them. Most of the time I iso someone it just leads me to town reading them more even though I iso'd said person cause i thought they were scum. |
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ScarletCelestial said: Phraze said: then why did u bring up the point of a prev game mislynching on D1? sounds like u think town should lynch correctly on D1s. It wasn't that it was a mislynch, my point was that I scumread someone who I felt was obviously scummy because of the ISO and without much interaction, but was Town. Ergo, I want to maintain distance until I've interacted with them. ok I see. then how do u intend to get leads? and why do u agree with Last about Trash if u didn't interact with them? |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Phraze said: @Shinichi it's hard to read thread with ur posts jeez but, looks like u mentioned "welcoming the spotlight"... townslip? lol Plz dont town slip me, everyone that says i town slipp turns out to be scum. My posts are wonderful :D Phraze said: Vote: @Ruu #201 if I had to pick Ruu is more suspicious for ....doublechecking? need some idea of this slot at least Lets not forget who over complicated answer to such a simple question lastwhisper31 said: @phraze it's not that shin doesn't see what I see it, it's more like he's just overly friendly with abuh and just down plays everything I said, and as someone who attacks literally everything... It's rubbing me the wrong way. And I see what ur saying about Ruu and Abuh. And ya I'd say this scum read is set and stone at this point I dont down play everything you say, you may be right and i may be wrong. I'm not everyone. I'm me. do I even believe townslips exist? hmm... who overcomplicated the answer, again? |
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Phraze said: Guys, I wouldn't read too much into my Ruu vote. I only placed it to tie. At the time, I thought Ruu was the only person with two votes, but am only now realizing Shin got an additional vote after the vote count. If I knew that, I would've voted Shin. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯on mobile atm noted: Trash in #201 @abhutrash why did u vote Ruu, ur neutral read, for voting Pokeit? what read did u have on Pokeit to whiteknight him so soon? also, what did u think my plan was? u say u have an idea, so I wanna hear it. Also, wouldn't say I'm trying to whiteknight Pokeit, just think the original train came along mostly through RVS and wanted to stir the pot a bit. Finally, as for your plans, I feel like you were mostly testing the waters to see if someone would react like I did. Not sure if said response is town or scum indicative to you though, lol |
ScarletCelestial said: Didn't say Tainted was likely scum, said they were the most likely out of the people on the Pokeit train. Tainted came on right after I made that comment and considerably changed my opinion on the matter. Think I may have been sorely mistaken in assuming a maf was on the train, so I am reassessing everything for now.@abhutrash I'm starting to see why wisp pointed out the amount of meta ash uses, but it isn't their entire case. On top of that, I don't think they've explained their read on Tainted well. Why are they likely scum? |
ScarletCelestial said: I was never able to win a game as scum, and I was unsuccesful in my attempts to try to appear town-like. I gave myself away in most games from giving away hints of my role (not on purpose).Pokeit thoughts thus far: Mainly pushes Togs, and follows up on Togs. "I consider myself a normal scum player I guess. I haven't played in a long time, so I can't say if I'm good or bad. I was pretty bad when I used to play." In what way? Also I don't agree with that my play has revolved around Togs. ScarletCelestial said: My post in #107 was my first intention. I could've used it to gain reads but I was happy in having it just create conversation. After going through the response and talked about it I concluded I wouldn't use it as a way to get reads. Because it didn't reveal thoughts relevant to deducing their allignment."I don't think I'll be using it in any way to get any reads." -138 "Because that might reveal potential discussion and progress the game. " -107 ^ Feels somewhat contradictory since they were on the same topic, the questions directed at people. However: Are you trying to say that those questions wouldn't result in reads, but create the potential to have reads? |
abhutrash said: Phraze said: Guys, I wouldn't read too much into my Ruu vote. I only placed it to tie. At the time, I thought Ruu was the only person with two votes, but am only now realizing Shin got an additional vote after the vote count. If I knew that, I would've voted Shin. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯on mobile atm noted: Trash in #201 @abhutrash why did u vote Ruu, ur neutral read, for voting Pokeit? what read did u have on Pokeit to whiteknight him so soon? also, what did u think my plan was? u say u have an idea, so I wanna hear it. Also, wouldn't say I'm trying to whiteknight Pokeit, just think the original train came along mostly through RVS and wanted to stir the pot a bit. Finally, as for your plans, I feel like you were mostly testing the waters to see if someone would react like I did. Not sure if said response is town or scum indicative to you though, lol I doubt it counts as pot-stirring. Shinichi is a better example with how he breaks down arguments. saying #201 doesn't mean anything, when u clearly put thought in ur vote, doesn't sit well with me. and, if u say my plan is not alignment indicative, why did u townlean me? shouldnt u at least ask around if it means anything? starting to think u could be scum. iirc u pocketed me before lol |
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Phraze said: Really don't know what to say outside of what I already have in regards to the Ruu vote. My thought process at that time seriously was just this:abhutrash said: Guys, I wouldn't read too much into my Ruu vote. I only placed it to tie. At the time, I thought Ruu was the only person with two votes, but am only now realizing Shin got an additional vote after the vote count. If I knew that, I would've voted Shin. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Also, wouldn't say I'm trying to whiteknight Pokeit, just think the original train came along mostly through RVS and wanted to stir the pot a bit. Finally, as for your plans, I feel like you were mostly testing the waters to see if someone would react like I did. Not sure if said response is town or scum indicative to you though, lol I doubt it counts as pot-stirring. Shinichi is a better example with how he breaks down arguments. saying #201 doesn't mean anything, when u clearly put thought in ur vote, doesn't sit well with me. and, if u say my plan is not alignment indicative, why did u townlean me? shouldnt u at least ask around if it means anything? starting to think u could be scum. iirc u pocketed me before lol I wanna tie the vote > I can tie with Ruu > Do I have a good read on Ruu > Nope > Oh well > Vote Sorry you misunderstood my answer. I meant that my response to your wisp assessment was NAI to me, but may have given you a read that I'm not aware of. You're initial meta post was townlean to me, hence why I townleaned you. Hope that makes more sense. And yeah, I pocketed you before and it was a mistake LOL. Trying not to pocket anymore for the time being. |
abhutrash said: Phraze said: Really don't know what to say outside of what I already have in regards to the Ruu vote. My thought process at that time seriously was just this:I doubt it counts as pot-stirring. Shinichi is a better example with how he breaks down arguments. saying #201 doesn't mean anything, when u clearly put thought in ur vote, doesn't sit well with me. and, if u say my plan is not alignment indicative, why did u townlean me? shouldnt u at least ask around if it means anything? starting to think u could be scum. iirc u pocketed me before lol I wanna tie the vote > I can tie with Ruu > Do I have a good read on Ruu > Nope > Oh well > Vote Sorry you misunderstood my answer. I meant that my response to your wisp assessment was NAI to me, but may have given you a read that I'm not aware of. You're initial meta post was townlean to me, hence why I townleaned you. Hope that makes more sense. And yeah, I pocketed you before and it was a mistake LOL. Trying not to pocket anymore for the time being. I see. sounds fair. tho.. why didn't u say u wanted to tie votes? was there rly no reason other than tying votes? but whatevers. at this rate, p sure I'll end up on u or Ruu come EoD~ Ruu not around to question but u are, so I'll give u the benefit of doubt (as if I didn't lol). |
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| unvote Don't really want to vote for Tainted without any good reason after he answered all my questions and is seeming to be putting some effort into this game. Tainted said: I wanted someone elses perspective on you because I was questioning you at the time. You weren't getting too much attention from others either.Pokeit said: oh I saw my name. Why me in particular?So you say you have reread. Now's your chance to join the game with meaningful discussion. Notice anything suspicious? Do you have any reads yet? Who? Why? What's your opinion of Tainted's posts and gameplay? Shinichi-Kun said: No. It was a random poem in my perspective, and him assuming everyone would understand it straight away and take it as a hard claim is weird. Could've atleast confirmed it directly instead of voting for me because I was questioning a non-direct claim.Pokeit said: @riku You're not adding much to the conversation. You can make your posts as you wish, just try to actually contribute instead of posting filler. Are you miller? Claiming miller is a strategy I've used myself as scum. It helps you get through the early game, but through Process of Elimination late game, it might be a deciding factor in your lynch. Personally, I believe a miller claim is suspicious, especially if not claimed straight away in a game. Alas, there's nothing I can do about it, but the claim itself does nothing to prove you're innocent. I'd also like to ask you a few more things. Do you have any suspicions? If so: Who? Why? This gimmick of speaking in poems/haiku is getting old and will make it difficult for you to participate adequately in the game. Are you planning on doing this for the rest of the game? U dont consider this straight away? Pretty sure he said he hinted at it, during the start of the game. I cant speak for his gimmick thought thats pretty fustrating if hes town and really wants to show it. Vote: riku Not happy with how you handled my questioning of you. You don't seem to be participating in scum-hunting. You're mostly active when you get questioned or in the beginning when you were talking about your role. You also never answered me when I asked you if you found any of my previous posts suspicious. I agree with lastswhisper31 in post #333 that your vote for me seemed omgus. Which is something I wouldn't see town doing in this case. I read it as you freaking out from some simple questions instead of actually working through them. |
Phraze said: I thought tied votes would inspire people to move around their votes a bit more. Doesn't really seem to be the case, I'd say the votes moved around as much as they would've regardless. Oh well. And, yes, that was seriously my only motivation.tho.. why didn't u say u wanted to tie votes? was there rly no reason other than tying votes? |
Shinichi-Kun said: I would like for you to vote for someone(me included) with a reason why you suspect them. I feel like we've come far enough in the game for you to be able to do that.Pokeit said: Also I'm wondering why he's still voting for me. From his posts it doesn't seem like he suspects me. Just for 'pressure' I guess? Should i be unvoting you? or is that more of a want on your end? |
Pokeit said: Countering a weak OMGUS vote with another OMGUS vote, lol. You backed up your thought process with it, but do you think riku intended to leave the vote on you?I agree with lastswhisper31 in post #333 that your vote for me seemed omgus. Which is something I wouldn't see town doing in this case. I read it as you freaking out from some simple questions instead of actually working through them. |
Pokeit said: unvote Don't really want to vote for Tainted without any good reason after he answered all my questions and is seeming to be putting some effort into this game. Tainted said: I wanted someone elses perspective on you because I was questioning you at the time. You weren't getting too much attention from others either.oh I saw my name. Why me in particular? Shinichi-Kun said: No. It was a random poem in my perspective, and him assuming everyone would understand it straight away and take it as a hard claim is weird. Could've atleast confirmed it directly instead of voting for me because I was questioning a non-direct claim.U dont consider this straight away? Pretty sure he said he hinted at it, during the start of the game. I cant speak for his gimmick thought thats pretty fustrating if hes town and really wants to show it. Vote: riku Not happy with how you handled my questioning of you. You don't seem to be participating in scum-hunting. You're mostly active when you get questioned or in the beginning when you were talking about your role. You also never answered me when I asked you if you found any of my previous posts suspicious. I agree with lastswhisper31 in post #333 that your vote for me seemed omgus. Which is something I wouldn't see town doing in this case. I read it as you freaking out from some simple questions instead of actually working through them. i told you don't try shading me is foolish choice makes you look guilty it is Not Omgus lol i dislike your bad play here Now THIS is Omgus cemented my vote Pokeit is scummy, good job TIMEZONES ARE A THING |
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abhutrash said: hmmm I see. if town, u should have plans for such an unsaid motive. what is it? lack of a reason means scum, esp if that's ur 'only motivation'.Phraze said: I thought tied votes would inspire people to move around their votes a bit more. Doesn't really seem to be the case, I'd say the votes moved around as much as they would've regardless. Oh well. And, yes, that was seriously my only motivation.tho.. why didn't u say u wanted to tie votes? was there rly no reason other than tying votes? |
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abhutrash said: I don't see my vote as an omgus vote. It was just something extra I wanted to mention. I wouldn't mind him voting for me if he actually had read through my posts and found something else. I do think he intended to leave the vote on me, because it was a vote where he said he had actual suspicions because of something I did. In other words it wasn't a random vote.Pokeit said: Countering a weak OMGUS vote with another OMGUS vote, lol. You backed up your thought process with it, but do you think riku intended to leave the vote on you?I agree with lastswhisper31 in post #333 that your vote for me seemed omgus. Which is something I wouldn't see town doing in this case. I read it as you freaking out from some simple questions instead of actually working through them. |
Phraze said: As far as I'm concerned, more votes = more info to evaluate in VCA = easier to find scum. If every player just stayed on their original votes, town would be screwed in the long run.abhutrash said: hmmm I see. if town, u should have plans for such an unsaid motive. what is it? lack of a reason means scum, esp if that's ur 'only motivation'.I thought tied votes would inspire people to move around their votes a bit more. Doesn't really seem to be the case, I'd say the votes moved around as much as they would've regardless. Oh well. And, yes, that was seriously my only motivation. |
Phraze said: Shinichi-Kun said: Plz dont town slip me, everyone that says i town slipp turns out to be scum. My posts are wonderful :D Lets not forget who over complicated answer to such a simple question I dont down play everything you say, you may be right and i may be wrong. I'm not everyone. I'm me. do I even believe townslips exist? hmm... who overcomplicated the answer, again? How is that me over complicating the answer lol, ive brought up previously that ive been told about my townslips by scum True your not everyone but your clever. |
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abhutrash said: Phraze said: Guys, I wouldn't read too much into my Ruu vote. I only placed it to tie. At the time, I thought Ruu was the only person with two votes, but am only now realizing Shin got an additional vote after the vote count. If I knew that, I would've voted Shin. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯on mobile atm noted: Trash in #201 @abhutrash why did u vote Ruu, ur neutral read, for voting Pokeit? what read did u have on Pokeit to whiteknight him so soon? also, what did u think my plan was? u say u have an idea, so I wanna hear it. Also, wouldn't say I'm trying to whiteknight Pokeit, just think the original train came along mostly through RVS and wanted to stir the pot a bit. Finally, as for your plans, I feel like you were mostly testing the waters to see if someone would react like I did. Not sure if said response is town or scum indicative to you though, lol Tie what? Still have about 15-16 hours till phase change, also why are u trying to tie shit anyways? Do you think me or ruu is scum? U wanted to stir the pot by causing another train, what was ur reason for voting ruu like otuside of causing another train. |
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abhutrash said: Phraze said: Really don't know what to say outside of what I already have in regards to the Ruu vote. My thought process at that time seriously was just this:I doubt it counts as pot-stirring. Shinichi is a better example with how he breaks down arguments. saying #201 doesn't mean anything, when u clearly put thought in ur vote, doesn't sit well with me. and, if u say my plan is not alignment indicative, why did u townlean me? shouldnt u at least ask around if it means anything? starting to think u could be scum. iirc u pocketed me before lol I wanna tie the vote > I can tie with Ruu > Do I have a good read on Ruu > Nope > Oh well > Vote Sorry you misunderstood my answer. I meant that my response to your wisp assessment was NAI to me, but may have given you a read that I'm not aware of. You're initial meta post was townlean to me, hence why I townleaned you. Hope that makes more sense. And yeah, I pocketed you before and it was a mistake LOL. Trying not to pocket anymore for the time being. So u want to risk a tie with someone dont even scum read -.- finding it hard to see the town intention in that vote. Why would u pocket anyone as town, if ur town it makes sense to have ur own reads. |
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abhutrash said: do u consider urself a town leader or hoping to dictate town's moves? just got that impression here. since when was what every player does more important than what u do? unless u intend to die for town, in which case we can lynch u.Phraze said: As far as I'm concerned, more votes = more info to evaluate in VCA = easier to find scum. If every player just stayed on their original votes, town would be screwed in the long run.hmmm I see. if town, u should have plans for such an unsaid motive. what is it? lack of a reason means scum, esp if that's ur 'only motivation'. argument doesn't go down well with me. but what do ik? Ruu for now |
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Pokeit said: unvote Don't really want to vote for Tainted without any good reason after he answered all my questions and is seeming to be putting some effort into this game. Tainted said: I wanted someone elses perspective on you because I was questioning you at the time. You weren't getting too much attention from others either.oh I saw my name. Why me in particular? Shinichi-Kun said: No. It was a random poem in my perspective, and him assuming everyone would understand it straight away and take it as a hard claim is weird. Could've atleast confirmed it directly instead of voting for me because I was questioning a non-direct claim.U dont consider this straight away? Pretty sure he said he hinted at it, during the start of the game. I cant speak for his gimmick thought thats pretty fustrating if hes town and really wants to show it. Vote: riku Not happy with how you handled my questioning of you. You don't seem to be participating in scum-hunting. You're mostly active when you get questioned or in the beginning when you were talking about your role. You also never answered me when I asked you if you found any of my previous posts suspicious. I agree with lastswhisper31 in post #333 that your vote for me seemed omgus. Which is something I wouldn't see town doing in this case. I read it as you freaking out from some simple questions instead of actually working through them. Before it was random now we know its not random, so whats your point? Your vote seems more omgus than anything lol, what are u afraid of? May i ask where do u see riku freaking out? Pokeit said: I would like for you to vote for someone(me included) with a reason why you suspect them. I feel like we've come far enough in the game for you to be able to do that. I do have my reasons mainly I like the discussion thats happening with my vote still being on you, and do have others in mind. abhutrash said: Phraze said: I thought tied votes would inspire people to move around their votes a bit more. Doesn't really seem to be the case, I'd say the votes moved around as much as they would've regardless. Oh well. And, yes, that was seriously my only motivation.tho.. why didn't u say u wanted to tie votes? was there rly no reason other than tying votes? tieing votes, so long before phase change def doesnt have any effects. riku said: Pokeit said: unvote Don't really want to vote for Tainted without any good reason after he answered all my questions and is seeming to be putting some effort into this game. I wanted someone elses perspective on you because I was questioning you at the time. You weren't getting too much attention from others either. No. It was a random poem in my perspective, and him assuming everyone would understand it straight away and take it as a hard claim is weird. Could've atleast confirmed it directly instead of voting for me because I was questioning a non-direct claim. Vote: riku Not happy with how you handled my questioning of you. You don't seem to be participating in scum-hunting. You're mostly active when you get questioned or in the beginning when you were talking about your role. You also never answered me when I asked you if you found any of my previous posts suspicious. I agree with lastswhisper31 in post #333 that your vote for me seemed omgus. Which is something I wouldn't see town doing in this case. I read it as you freaking out from some simple questions instead of actually working through them. i told you don't try shading me is foolish choice makes you look guilty it is Not Omgus lol i dislike your bad play here Now THIS is Omgus cemented my vote Pokeit is scummy, good job TIMEZONES ARE A THING Can you plz do a better job in explaining your reads outside of putting it into a haiku? |
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abhutrash said: Pokeit said: Countering a weak OMGUS vote with another OMGUS vote, lol. You backed up your thought process with it, but do you think riku intended to leave the vote on you?I agree with lastswhisper31 in post #333 that your vote for me seemed omgus. Which is something I wouldn't see town doing in this case. I read it as you freaking out from some simple questions instead of actually working through them. both votes are pretty weak tbh |
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abhutrash said: Phraze said: As far as I'm concerned, more votes = more info to evaluate in VCA = easier to find scum. If every player just stayed on their original votes, town would be screwed in the long run.hmmm I see. if town, u should have plans for such an unsaid motive. what is it? lack of a reason means scum, esp if that's ur 'only motivation'. Hmm its too early to be worrying about VCA we havent even got a flip yet, why are u so concerned about that. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: lol? ok. I'm cleverly getting what I want. reaction triggers. was trying to see the reason behind Last scumreading uPhraze said: I'm not everyone. I'm me. do I even believe townslips exist? hmm... who overcomplicated the answer, again? How is that me over complicating the answer lol, ive brought up previously that ive been told about my townslips by scum True your not everyone but your clever. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Like you said, still had plenty of time before phase change, so I wasn't 'risking' a tie. Again, I was trying to trigger people into moving their votes around for some more information. Judging from the reactions I'm getting to that idea, I guess its not exactly a good one, lol.abhutrash said: Really don't know what to say outside of what I already have in regards to the Ruu vote. My thought process at that time seriously was just this: I wanna tie the vote > I can tie with Ruu > Do I have a good read on Ruu > Nope > Oh well > Vote Sorry you misunderstood my answer. I meant that my response to your wisp assessment was NAI to me, but may have given you a read that I'm not aware of. You're initial meta post was townlean to me, hence why I townleaned you. Hope that makes more sense. And yeah, I pocketed you before and it was a mistake LOL. Trying not to pocket anymore for the time being. So u want to risk a tie with someone dont even scum read -.- finding it hard to see the town intention in that vote. Why would u pocket anyone as town, if ur town it makes sense to have ur own reads. I psychologically have a habit of clinging onto early town reads and fixating specifically on that one person, so I'm trying to break that habit after I noticed it in a previous game. I don't think I'm currently pocketing anyone; do y'all think that I am? |
| she's not here. pressure won't hurt. Trash talks plenty without vote pressure. its either Trash or Ruu for me. might switch if I don't have time for phase change, but I have time. nothing new |
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Shinichi-Kun said: I'm saying that he assumed that everyone would understand it when most people thought it was random at first. My point is that I wish he would've said it straight out instead of disguising it in a haiku and getting irritated when I questioned him about it. Pokeit said: unvote Don't really want to vote for Tainted without any good reason after he answered all my questions and is seeming to be putting some effort into this game. I wanted someone elses perspective on you because I was questioning you at the time. You weren't getting too much attention from others either. No. It was a random poem in my perspective, and him assuming everyone would understand it straight away and take it as a hard claim is weird. Could've atleast confirmed it directly instead of voting for me because I was questioning a non-direct claim. Vote: riku Not happy with how you handled my questioning of you. You don't seem to be participating in scum-hunting. You're mostly active when you get questioned or in the beginning when you were talking about your role. You also never answered me when I asked you if you found any of my previous posts suspicious. I agree with lastswhisper31 in post #333 that your vote for me seemed omgus. Which is something I wouldn't see town doing in this case. I read it as you freaking out from some simple questions instead of actually working through them. Before it was random now we know its not random, so whats your point? Your vote seems more omgus than anything lol, what are u afraid of? May i ask where do u see riku freaking out? I found it seeming like he was freaking out when he put his vote on me for 'shading' him when it was just normal questions I would ask anyone in his position. He also tunneled on my miller questioning. Which makes me suspicious if it's even a legit claim or not. He also still hasn't responded to if he finds any of my previous posts suspicious. I'm not afraid of anything. I just want more clarity. |
abhutrash said: I mean have u done anything but follow trains, trying to break or create ties? Still feels scummy to meironace said: Like, this isn't the only input you're gonna provide right? Thoughts on Pokeit? Thoughts on basically any other user?Why would tar hint at it so early? Didn't I say that it was the tpr with that win con of getting lynched?why wouldn't he try to appear scummy so early. And yeah. Lazy post. I'm tired. I just gave what little thoughts I had. Shinichi-Kun said: again, with this friendly banter...abhutrash said: Like, this isn't the only input you're gonna provide right? Thoughts on Pokeit? Thoughts on basically any other user? and he wonders why hes always mislynch fodder #201 for clarity @Phraze I just dont like how he votes Ruu, but focuses the message on Pokeit, def W/V imo because there would be no reason to vote their if they were partners... but unlike you, I think Abuh is the scum in this case. ScarletCelestial said: dont try to pocket me... honestly I want to hear your opinion on Abhu, and who would you be willing to lynch today?@abhutrash I'm starting to see why wisp pointed out the amount of meta ash uses, but it isn't their entire case. On top of that, I don't think they've explained their read on Tainted well. Why are they likely scum? abhutrash said: what even is that first sentence... if you tell us not to look into something we will... and first of all thats just not how games of mafia work... also stop voting to create ties... you are looking more and more scummy... because it just looks like you are trying to set up for a snipe... Phraze said: Guys, I wouldn't read too much into my Ruu vote. I only placed it to tie. At the time, I thought Ruu was the only person with two votes, but am only now realizing Shin got an additional vote after the vote count. If I knew that, I would've voted Shin. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯on mobile atm noted: Trash in #201 @abhutrash why did u vote Ruu, ur neutral read, for voting Pokeit? what read did u have on Pokeit to whiteknight him so soon? also, what did u think my plan was? u say u have an idea, so I wanna hear it. Also, wouldn't say I'm trying to whiteknight Pokeit, just think the original train came along mostly through RVS and wanted to stir the pot a bit. Finally, as for your plans, I feel like you were mostly testing the waters to see if someone would react like I did. Not sure if said response is town or scum indicative to you though, lol and ya it totally looks like you were trying to whiteknight Pokeit, cant deny that his train didnt grow quickly, but it def got people talking... #375 and #379, I hate you both right now, neither of you are helping the discussion right now, stop acting like children. @riku @pokeit tbh you both look like scum, and second, pokeit, your vote was totally omgus, hiding behind superficial reasons means nothing to me... but Riku isnt handling it a towny way either... also dont attack peoples activity. Phraze said: +1abhutrash said: do u consider urself a town leader or hoping to dictate town's moves? just got that impression here. since when was what every player does more important than what u do? unless u intend to die for town, in which case we can lynch u.As far as I'm concerned, more votes = more info to evaluate in VCA = easier to find scum. If every player just stayed on their original votes, town would be screwed in the long run. argument doesn't go down well with me. but what do ik? Ruu for now free for a few hours, so now's ur time to poke me |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Phraze said: Oh hell no, lol, no way I could ever be a town leader. I'm just trying to get as much raw data out on the thread as possible so a real town leader can come in, analyze it, and draw rational conclusions that a dumbass like me wouldn't be able to make. If I die in the process, its all cool as long as town wins in the end. Don't really care about living or dying as long as my team wins.abhutrash said: do u consider urself a town leader or hoping to dictate town's moves? just got that impression here. since when was what every player does more important than what u do? unless u intend to die for town, in which case we can lynch u.As far as I'm concerned, more votes = more info to evaluate in VCA = easier to find scum. If every player just stayed on their original votes, town would be screwed in the long run. argument doesn't go down well with me. but what do ik? Ruu for now |
lastwhisper31 said: also dont attack peoples activity. I'm not attacking his activity. I'm saying that with the same amount of posts he's been making. He could've made valid posts and points that don't revolve around himself. |
| @pokeit Tbh the way I see it, putting that much attention on your self is insane for scum, when there was literally no reason for him to do so... and the fluidity of your arguement, and how you push it, means everything. Because right now, I just see someone who is poking at another player, until he gets the reaction he wants... "Blinded by your own bias" |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Phraze said: Shinichi-Kun said: lol? ok. I'm cleverly getting what I want. reaction triggers. was trying to see the reason behind Last scumreading uHow is that me over complicating the answer lol, ive brought up previously that ive been told about my townslips by scum True your not everyone but your clever. I really hate interacting with you in mafia games lol, your smart ass remarks tick me off XD abhutrash said: Shinichi-Kun said: Like you said, still had plenty of time before phase change, so I wasn't 'risking' a tie. Again, I was trying to trigger people into moving their votes around for some more information. Judging from the reactions I'm getting to that idea, I guess its not exactly a good one, lol.So u want to risk a tie with someone dont even scum read -.- finding it hard to see the town intention in that vote. Why would u pocket anyone as town, if ur town it makes sense to have ur own reads. I psychologically have a habit of clinging onto early town reads and fixating specifically on that one person, so I'm trying to break that habit after I noticed it in a previous game. I don't think I'm currently pocketing anyone; do y'all think that I am? Well explain how a tie would cause people to move votes this early in the day? Idk do you think ur pocketing someone? Phraze said: she's not here. pressure won't hurt. Trash talks plenty without vote pressure. its either Trash or Ruu for me. might switch if I don't have time for phase change, but I have time. nothing new But why ruu tho, i mean is their an actual reason why u want your ok with her being lynched eod? |
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Pokeit said: Shinichi-Kun said: I'm saying that he assumed that everyone would understand it when most people thought it was random at first. My point is that I wish he would've said it straight out instead of disguising it in a haiku and getting irritated when I questioned him about it. Before it was random now we know its not random, so whats your point? Your vote seems more omgus than anything lol, what are u afraid of? May i ask where do u see riku freaking out? I found it seeming like he was freaking out when he put his vote on me for 'shading' him when it was just normal questions I would ask anyone in his position. He also tunneled on my miller questioning. Which makes me suspicious if it's even a legit claim or not. He also still hasn't responded to if he finds any of my previous posts suspicious. I'm not afraid of anything. I just want more clarity. We all know at first it was random, but u also seemed to overreact to the haiku before reading into the thread to see that it had already been resolved maybe thats what riku sees in you. I still dislike the fact that riku hid behind a breadcrumb. Why would he be freaking out? |
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