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Jan 25, 2018 8:20 AM
#1101
Are masons always town-alligned? Or is there a possibility that one of them is scum? |
Jan 25, 2018 8:20 AM
#1102
Complains about the ash wagon multiple times @ScarletCelestial Wot? |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Jan 25, 2018 8:24 AM
#1103
Shinichi-Kun said: ScarletCelestial said: ScarletCelestial said: 60 Fluff, with me. 98 "I do agree with togs about behaviour over theory still something is bugging me" Also starts to go after Pokeit. 109 Wonders about when wisp became a tonal reader. 110 Spots riku Miller claim very quickly. However, it was 108 so they likely noticed it after posting 109. 178 Vote count 204 Questions ash on their Phraze meta. 265 "a convenient way to fall back later. And I feel like voting there tbh." - Concerning ash. 267 Votes ash. 276 Questions Shin on their ash read. 277 Questions Ruu. 281 Asks Togs a question, concerning the train. 284 Fluff. 287 Questions Pokeit on their thoughts about Shin. 289 Fluff. 302 Questions logic. 307 Response to logic. 563 Vote Count 596 Considers Phraze odd. 604 I don't exactly know what this is trying to say. 611 Fluff. 658 Fluff? 683 Likes Karote's work. 688 Somewhat criticises Karote's work. 691 Mentions wisp and riku. 692 Criticises Pokeit. 693 Asks Phraze if ash is a bad lynch. 698 "I'm getting a bad feeling" about ash's wagon. Might be more Townie as a result? 700 Finding riku bad, as whoever voted them (not mentioned). 703 Comfortable on ash despite bad feeling of people, suspect. 706 Fluff? 708 Snaps at Phraze. 709 The lesson from my post: to look at things as different perspectives. 710 Odd reason to vote ash. 714 Argues with Phraze. 715 Fluff. 761 Vote Count 853 Fluff? 862 Quick complaint about Tainted[/url] 871 Might be portraying the vote change as scummy. 878 Tainted next target? 882 Frustrated fluff. 901 Fluff. 926 Fluff. The above is pretty much only description. My thoughts will be in my next post. Shinichi-Kun - What worries me with interactions with Shin was that there were few, despite their prominence. This is because she asks Pokeit about him instead of forming her own opinion and questions why he was on the ash train, which he was not on later when she complained about it. abhutrash - Was one of the main people on his wagon, and seemed to really want them dead. Ergo, Townie interaction. Karote Likes their work, then when asked backs off on their thought a little bit. Not sure if this is good or not yet, since it might just be trying to pocket them. riku Complains about him a bit in the late Day, might be a setup for the next lynch. logic340 Very little interaction. Nothing alignment indicative in my opinion. Pokeit Looks like they wouldn't mind a Pokeit lynch. Ruu Asks Ruu a question but never follows up on it. ironace Tainted Says that Tainted is scum during Twilight. Not sure if it would become a joke or an easy lynch. lastwhisper31 Complains about the ash wagon multiple times, which he was always on, yet never moves a vote onto him, which I feel is suspect. Togs Yachty My thoughts on people based on yurkin's ISO. Colours indicate which way it goes based on yurkin's reads alone. Does not comprise of my final, full thoughts. May not align with claims already made. I am a he -.- I like to hear other peoples opinions to make sure they aren't faking anything, plus more so when 2 people have the same opinions its a better start. Yes, you are. The 'she' I was referring to was yurkin. |
Jan 25, 2018 8:25 AM
#1104
Shinichi-Kun said: Ruu said: Pokeit said: Ruu said: Why would it be a waste to kill me if I was a town read by everyone? Wouldn't that be a pretty safe kill? What do you mean by getting manipulated?lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: how do u get pocketed by the one who wanted to Lynch you.Phraze completely pocketed me. I didn't even consider tpr. I have some questions for the hosts so when I get some answers I'll give you my thoughts. For now great job unknown person that made this possible! Day there was a strong man, why would mafia use it night one? I'm more inclined to believe someone killed them self because of who they attacked, which his on phraze died. Because Phraze always wants to lynch me no matter her alignment. That is nai. I don't pay attention to that but the other stuff. And I never consider she could be tpr at all. I'm not surprise mafia killed Phraze she was the obvious choice if you did some PoE. Pokeit was town read by everyone so killing him would be a waste. Better to try and manipulate him. The rest can be use for mislynches because some are not very active and the ones that are, fight against each other. So yeah, Phraze was the best option because she is a strong player and not easy control or get lynch. I don't know why yurkin died thou. Why would Phraze choose them if she was sk? I'm thinking maybe Phraze was something else and she also could kill whomever tried to kill her. If I were the mafia I think killing you would be a waste because, since you are almost (now for real) confirmed town I'd rather try to make you town read me/ convinced you to vote for someone I know is town. If that doesn't work then yeah, I would kill you N2 because that's a safe bet. Also if there were a doc I would think they would protect you on N1. If mafia has good players, I think they would have consider all this before choosing a target. Your ignoring 2 many viarbles, like the existance of a strongman which is common in setups with a doctor. Again why are u discussing your plans as scum? If i were the doctor i would have chosen the vigilante to protect not the unclaimed innocent child. Ruu said: ironace said: Shinichi-Kun said: ironace said: ok so i didnt pay attention but i looked at the votes throughout the day and yurkin hadnt removed her vote whatsoever.So i dont think she was bussing. Also, @scarletcelestial what made you believe yurkin was scum? Depends what her reason was for voting, why do u assume it was bussing tho? I didnt assume anything, i know some scum tend to buss. But the also unvote later on. But yurkin didnt. So either she hates trash personally and bussed him or she knew that everybody(active) believed trash was scum and would be an easy place to keep a vote without being too suspicious.For now,i think trash is clear. lemme look back and see hwat was her reasoning again. Bussing a partner on D1 just for town cred is stupid. You shouldn't bus your buddies until you know for certain it's your win if they die (Since Shin keeps bringing Kiznaiver, that's my example). If you need town cred then you can buss them if that's the only way to avoid loosing two mafias if they are both on the scum list. But that's not the case here, so I'm inclined to believe abhu is clear with this flip and vca. U didnt know it was your win, town just didnt listen to me when i pointed out many times that u were scum that game. A good player is not afraid of 1 teammate dieing due to a buss lol logic340 said: This Togs train is quite interesting. He's like the second least active player in this game. Is he really the best place to start on D2? Prob not but i want him in the game, i am getting bad vibes since he was super active as town in his last game. Yes I knew. I had pocketed logic and that was all I needed to win in that case. And great, you figured our I was scum but nobody listened to you because I had played my cards right. Is not about being afraid smh but I doubt yurkin would buss her partner on D1 when there were other options and it was not difficult to get a mislynch. Lynching a buddy on D1 should be avoid if possible. If your partner is scummy af yes, do it but you should try to save him if you can. Bussing is not bad but on D1 is stupid. |
Jan 25, 2018 8:25 AM
#1105
Shinichi-Kun said: Oh wait thats u commenting on yurkins reads lol, i cant read into yurkin so cant tell you why she would rather ask someone else about me, but its prob cause she wanted to make sure her opinion felt similar to someone like pokeit who seemed pretty town at the time. ScarletCelestial said: @Shinichi-Kun On what Day would you be willing to share who your Mason buddy is? Thats not up to me its up to said buddy When you get a reply from your buddy, can you tell me what Day they'd be willing to claim? |
Jan 25, 2018 8:28 AM
#1106
ScarletCelestial said: ironace said: ScarletCelestial said: ironace said: ok so i didnt pay attention but i looked at the votes throughout the day and yurkin hadnt removed her vote whatsoever.So i dont think she was bussing. Also, @scarletcelestial what made you believe yurkin was scum? Where did I say that? Can you quote for me please? naw, from the very first vote count, i saw that u had voted yurkin so i was asking because of that. The vote stayed for a decent amount of time, do correct me if im wrong. yurkin was my RVS... I unvoted, thought I'd be back for phase change but wasn't. oh i see. mb |
Jan 25, 2018 8:29 AM
#1107
@Shinichi-kun about the strongman. Isn't that a 1-shot? Why would they waste it on D1? Pokeit is someone people will listen to, he is more dangerous than a vigilante that has a bigger chance of killing a townie. That's why a doc would be more incline to protect him over abhu. |
Jan 25, 2018 8:30 AM
#1108
Pokeit said: Are masons always town-alligned? Or is there a possibility that one of them is scum? Always town |
Jan 25, 2018 9:39 AM
#1109
@ScarletCelestial unless im misreading something, did you place both me and Shin as scum? If so have you read our conversations? do you think they are V/V or V/W? Idk what ur based those reads off of, but idk how you could come to the conclusion that both me and Shin are scum... |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Jan 25, 2018 9:50 AM
#1110
Pokeit said: Are masons always town-alligned? Or is there a possibility that one of them is scum? Not always but i aint sure if thats considered a bastard role if its done like that. |
Jan 25, 2018 9:50 AM
#1111
ScarletCelestial said: Shinichi-Kun said: ScarletCelestial said: ScarletCelestial said: 60 Fluff, with me. 98 "I do agree with togs about behaviour over theory still something is bugging me" Also starts to go after Pokeit. 109 Wonders about when wisp became a tonal reader. 110 Spots riku Miller claim very quickly. However, it was 108 so they likely noticed it after posting 109. 178 Vote count 204 Questions ash on their Phraze meta. 265 "a convenient way to fall back later. And I feel like voting there tbh." - Concerning ash. 267 Votes ash. 276 Questions Shin on their ash read. 277 Questions Ruu. 281 Asks Togs a question, concerning the train. 284 Fluff. 287 Questions Pokeit on their thoughts about Shin. 289 Fluff. 302 Questions logic. 307 Response to logic. 563 Vote Count 596 Considers Phraze odd. 604 I don't exactly know what this is trying to say. 611 Fluff. 658 Fluff? 683 Likes Karote's work. 688 Somewhat criticises Karote's work. 691 Mentions wisp and riku. 692 Criticises Pokeit. 693 Asks Phraze if ash is a bad lynch. 698 "I'm getting a bad feeling" about ash's wagon. Might be more Townie as a result? 700 Finding riku bad, as whoever voted them (not mentioned). 703 Comfortable on ash despite bad feeling of people, suspect. 706 Fluff? 708 Snaps at Phraze. 709 The lesson from my post: to look at things as different perspectives. 710 Odd reason to vote ash. 714 Argues with Phraze. 715 Fluff. 761 Vote Count 853 Fluff? 862 Quick complaint about Tainted[/url] 871 Might be portraying the vote change as scummy. 878 Tainted next target? 882 Frustrated fluff. 901 Fluff. 926 Fluff. The above is pretty much only description. My thoughts will be in my next post. Shinichi-Kun - What worries me with interactions with Shin was that there were few, despite their prominence. This is because she asks Pokeit about him instead of forming her own opinion and questions why he was on the ash train, which he was not on later when she complained about it. abhutrash - Was one of the main people on his wagon, and seemed to really want them dead. Ergo, Townie interaction. Karote Likes their work, then when asked backs off on their thought a little bit. Not sure if this is good or not yet, since it might just be trying to pocket them. riku Complains about him a bit in the late Day, might be a setup for the next lynch. logic340 Very little interaction. Nothing alignment indicative in my opinion. Pokeit Looks like they wouldn't mind a Pokeit lynch. Ruu Asks Ruu a question but never follows up on it. ironace Tainted Says that Tainted is scum during Twilight. Not sure if it would become a joke or an easy lynch. lastwhisper31 Complains about the ash wagon multiple times, which he was always on, yet never moves a vote onto him, which I feel is suspect. Togs Yachty My thoughts on people based on yurkin's ISO. Colours indicate which way it goes based on yurkin's reads alone. Does not comprise of my final, full thoughts. May not align with claims already made. I am a he -.- I like to hear other peoples opinions to make sure they aren't faking anything, plus more so when 2 people have the same opinions its a better start. Yes, you are. The 'she' I was referring to was yurkin. Thank you figured that out XD |
Jan 25, 2018 9:55 AM
#1112
Ruu said: Shinichi-Kun said: Ruu said: Pokeit said: Ruu said: Why would it be a waste to kill me if I was a town read by everyone? Wouldn't that be a pretty safe kill? What do you mean by getting manipulated?lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: how do u get pocketed by the one who wanted to Lynch you.Phraze completely pocketed me. I didn't even consider tpr. I have some questions for the hosts so when I get some answers I'll give you my thoughts. For now great job unknown person that made this possible! Day there was a strong man, why would mafia use it night one? I'm more inclined to believe someone killed them self because of who they attacked, which his on phraze died. Because Phraze always wants to lynch me no matter her alignment. That is nai. I don't pay attention to that but the other stuff. And I never consider she could be tpr at all. I'm not surprise mafia killed Phraze she was the obvious choice if you did some PoE. Pokeit was town read by everyone so killing him would be a waste. Better to try and manipulate him. The rest can be use for mislynches because some are not very active and the ones that are, fight against each other. So yeah, Phraze was the best option because she is a strong player and not easy control or get lynch. I don't know why yurkin died thou. Why would Phraze choose them if she was sk? I'm thinking maybe Phraze was something else and she also could kill whomever tried to kill her. If I were the mafia I think killing you would be a waste because, since you are almost (now for real) confirmed town I'd rather try to make you town read me/ convinced you to vote for someone I know is town. If that doesn't work then yeah, I would kill you N2 because that's a safe bet. Also if there were a doc I would think they would protect you on N1. If mafia has good players, I think they would have consider all this before choosing a target. Your ignoring 2 many viarbles, like the existance of a strongman which is common in setups with a doctor. Again why are u discussing your plans as scum? If i were the doctor i would have chosen the vigilante to protect not the unclaimed innocent child. Ruu said: ironace said: Shinichi-Kun said: ironace said: ok so i didnt pay attention but i looked at the votes throughout the day and yurkin hadnt removed her vote whatsoever.So i dont think she was bussing. Also, @scarletcelestial what made you believe yurkin was scum? Depends what her reason was for voting, why do u assume it was bussing tho? I didnt assume anything, i know some scum tend to buss. But the also unvote later on. But yurkin didnt. So either she hates trash personally and bussed him or she knew that everybody(active) believed trash was scum and would be an easy place to keep a vote without being too suspicious.For now,i think trash is clear. lemme look back and see hwat was her reasoning again. Bussing a partner on D1 just for town cred is stupid. You shouldn't bus your buddies until you know for certain it's your win if they die (Since Shin keeps bringing Kiznaiver, that's my example). If you need town cred then you can buss them if that's the only way to avoid loosing two mafias if they are both on the scum list. But that's not the case here, so I'm inclined to believe abhu is clear with this flip and vca. U didnt know it was your win, town just didnt listen to me when i pointed out many times that u were scum that game. A good player is not afraid of 1 teammate dieing due to a buss lol logic340 said: This Togs train is quite interesting. He's like the second least active player in this game. Is he really the best place to start on D2? Prob not but i want him in the game, i am getting bad vibes since he was super active as town in his last game. Yes I knew. I had pocketed logic and that was all I needed to win in that case. And great, you figured our I was scum but nobody listened to you because I had played my cards right. Is not about being afraid smh but I doubt yurkin would buss her partner on D1 when there were other options and it was not difficult to get a mislynch. Lynching a buddy on D1 should be avoid if possible. If your partner is scummy af yes, do it but you should try to save him if you can. Bussing is not bad but on D1 is stupid. U didnt play ur cards right at all u were obvious scum and when i pointed out your flaws no one listened, why are u trying to dismiss the possbility of a bussing through a past game anyways? Saving someone that is obvious scum is suicide for any mafia tho. |
Jan 25, 2018 9:57 AM
#1113
ScarletCelestial said: Shinichi-Kun said: Oh wait thats u commenting on yurkins reads lol, i cant read into yurkin so cant tell you why she would rather ask someone else about me, but its prob cause she wanted to make sure her opinion felt similar to someone like pokeit who seemed pretty town at the time. ScarletCelestial said: @Shinichi-Kun On what Day would you be willing to share who your Mason buddy is? Thats not up to me its up to said buddy When you get a reply from your buddy, can you tell me what Day they'd be willing to claim? sure Ruu said: @Shinichi-kun about the strongman. Isn't that a 1-shot? Why would they waste it on D1? Pokeit is someone people will listen to, he is more dangerous than a vigilante that has a bigger chance of killing a townie. That's why a doc would be more incline to protect him over abhu. Hes someone people will listen to now, not last phase dont confuse the 2 phases lol. Also yes strongman is almost always a 1 shot, but if someone sees an oppurtunity they will take it. I am just assuming if phraze was the sk that she might have been nk immune which is why i thought a strongman would be in place plus if a doctor exists. |
Jan 25, 2018 10:04 AM
#1114
lastwhisper31 said: @ScarletCelestial unless im misreading something, did you place both me and Shin as scum? If so have you read our conversations? do you think they are V/V or V/W? Idk what ur based those reads off of, but idk how you could come to the conclusion that both me and Shin are scum... No, my comments are based solely on yurkin interactions. The way you two have been talking certainly means you're not both scum... |
Jan 25, 2018 10:28 AM
#1115
Wisp: Ruu | Abuh | Ironace | Abuh Shin: Pokeit | Unvote | Tainted Karote: Ruu | Wisp | Karote | Shin Abhu: Scarlet | Ruu | Togs Togs: Logic | Pokeit Tainted: Pokeit | Trash | Shin | Scarlet | Ironace | Trash | Ironace Scarlet: Yurkin | Ruu: Shin | Logic | Shin | Tainted | Phraze: Riku | Ruu | Abuh Pokeit: Wisp | Tainted | Riku | Riku | Wisp | Tainted (This is why you use the colon or I miss votes and unvotes) Riku: Shin | PokeIt | Wisp | Shin Logic: Togs | Unvote | Tainted (Opportunistic if you ask me) | unvote Abhu Yurkin: Abuh | If I missed votes its because you people don’t use the colon when you unvote and vote, and it makes it harder to find votes…. Notes: • Togs was the first one to change his vote • Karote sheeped a lot • Logic held onto his vote for almost the entirety of day 1 • Tainted towards the end vote changed like a scum… • Did Scarlet ever change her vote???? • Did Yurkin only ever vote one person? Vote Count 1.1 Ruu(2): lastwhisper31, Karote Pokeit(3): Shinichi-Kun, Tainted, Togs ScarletCelestial(1): abhutrash Yurkin(1): ScarletCelestial lastwhisper31(1): Pokeit Shinichi-Kun(1): Ruu riku(1): Phraze Players not voting: riku, logic340, Yurkin, ironace, Yachty Vote Count 1.2 Pokeit(3): Shinichi-Kun, Tainted, Togs Ruu(2): lastwhisper31, Karote Shinichi-Kun(2): Ruu, riku ScarletCelestial(1): abhutrash Yurkin(1): ScarletCelestial riku(1): Phraze Tainted(1): Pokeit Players not voting: logic340, Yurkin, ironace, Yachty Vote Count 1.3 Pokeit(3): Shinichi-Kun, Tainted, Togs Ruu(2): Karote, abhutrash abhutrash(2): lastwhisper31, Yurkin Shinichi-Kun(1): riku Yurkin(1): ScarletCelestial riku(1): Phraze Tainted(1): Pokeit Togs(1): logic340 Players not voting: ironace, Yachty, Ruu Vote Count 1.4 abhutrash(3): lastwhisper31, Yurkin, Tainted Pokeit(2): Shinichi-Kun, Togs Togs(2): logic340, abhutrash lastwhisper31(1): Karote Karote(1): Phraze Shinichi-Kun(1): riku riku(1): Pokeit Players not voting: ironace, Yachty, Ruu, ScarletCelestial Vote Count 1.5 abhutrash(3): lastwhisper31, Yurkin, Phraze Shinichi-Kun(3): riku, Ruu, Tainted Pokeit(1): Togs Togs(1): abhutrash Players not voting: ironace, Yachty, ScarletCelestial, Shinichi-Kun, Karote, Pokeit, logic340 Vote Count 1.6 abhutrash(2): Yurkin, Phraze ironace(2): Tainted, lastwhisper31 Shinichi-Kun(1): riku Pokeit(1): Togs Togs(1): abhutrash Tainted(1): Ruu Players not voting: ironace, Yachty, ScarletCelestial, Shinichi-Kun, Karote, Pokeit, logic340 Vote Count Final abhutrash(4): Yurkin, Phraze, logic340, lasthwhisper31 Tainted(4): Ruu, Shinichi-Kun, Pokeit ironace(1): Tainted Shinichi-Kun(1): riku Pokeit(1): Togs Togs(1): abhutrash Players not voting: ironace, Yachty, ScarletCelestial, Karote More Notes: 1. Ruu, Shin, Pokeit were on tainteds train. IMO none of them are clear... 2. I did not like Shin or Abuh's role claims 3. Scarlet is most likely not scum so shes my def town read because she was voting Yurkin since the beginning of day 1 4. Trash, Me, Iron, Shin, and pokeit all voted tainted at one point 5. Logic is probably another scum, just speculation from his tone and playstyle this game, and how he voted 6. Ironace is also closer to a scum lean because of his general laziness 7. Pokeit and Riku are both in timeout for acting like children day 1 8. Yurkin's votes dont give me much to work with, I need to analyze who interacted with him. Gonna analyze Yurkins posts and who interacted with them now. Important Edit: I completely forgot that pokeit claimed IC this morning... he is def not scum, ignore that |
_WispJan 25, 2018 10:31 AM
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Jan 25, 2018 10:34 AM
#1116
To do list: 1. Analyze Yurkins posts/interactions 2. Analyze the Night Deaths (Im focusing more on how they died, rather then why) 3. Vote someone lol |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Jan 25, 2018 10:51 AM
#1117
Shinichi-Kun said: Ruu said: Shinichi-Kun said: Ruu said: Pokeit said: Ruu said: Why would it be a waste to kill me if I was a town read by everyone? Wouldn't that be a pretty safe kill? What do you mean by getting manipulated?lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: how do u get pocketed by the one who wanted to Lynch you.Phraze completely pocketed me. I didn't even consider tpr. I have some questions for the hosts so when I get some answers I'll give you my thoughts. For now great job unknown person that made this possible! Day there was a strong man, why would mafia use it night one? I'm more inclined to believe someone killed them self because of who they attacked, which his on phraze died. Because Phraze always wants to lynch me no matter her alignment. That is nai. I don't pay attention to that but the other stuff. And I never consider she could be tpr at all. I'm not surprise mafia killed Phraze she was the obvious choice if you did some PoE. Pokeit was town read by everyone so killing him would be a waste. Better to try and manipulate him. The rest can be use for mislynches because some are not very active and the ones that are, fight against each other. So yeah, Phraze was the best option because she is a strong player and not easy control or get lynch. I don't know why yurkin died thou. Why would Phraze choose them if she was sk? I'm thinking maybe Phraze was something else and she also could kill whomever tried to kill her. If I were the mafia I think killing you would be a waste because, since you are almost (now for real) confirmed town I'd rather try to make you town read me/ convinced you to vote for someone I know is town. If that doesn't work then yeah, I would kill you N2 because that's a safe bet. Also if there were a doc I would think they would protect you on N1. If mafia has good players, I think they would have consider all this before choosing a target. Your ignoring 2 many viarbles, like the existance of a strongman which is common in setups with a doctor. Again why are u discussing your plans as scum? If i were the doctor i would have chosen the vigilante to protect not the unclaimed innocent child. Ruu said: ironace said: Shinichi-Kun said: ironace said: ok so i didnt pay attention but i looked at the votes throughout the day and yurkin hadnt removed her vote whatsoever.So i dont think she was bussing. Also, @scarletcelestial what made you believe yurkin was scum? Depends what her reason was for voting, why do u assume it was bussing tho? I didnt assume anything, i know some scum tend to buss. But the also unvote later on. But yurkin didnt. So either she hates trash personally and bussed him or she knew that everybody(active) believed trash was scum and would be an easy place to keep a vote without being too suspicious.For now,i think trash is clear. lemme look back and see hwat was her reasoning again. Bussing a partner on D1 just for town cred is stupid. You shouldn't bus your buddies until you know for certain it's your win if they die (Since Shin keeps bringing Kiznaiver, that's my example). If you need town cred then you can buss them if that's the only way to avoid loosing two mafias if they are both on the scum list. But that's not the case here, so I'm inclined to believe abhu is clear with this flip and vca. U didnt know it was your win, town just didnt listen to me when i pointed out many times that u were scum that game. A good player is not afraid of 1 teammate dieing due to a buss lol logic340 said: This Togs train is quite interesting. He's like the second least active player in this game. Is he really the best place to start on D2? Prob not but i want him in the game, i am getting bad vibes since he was super active as town in his last game. Yes I knew. I had pocketed logic and that was all I needed to win in that case. And great, you figured our I was scum but nobody listened to you because I had played my cards right. Is not about being afraid smh but I doubt yurkin would buss her partner on D1 when there were other options and it was not difficult to get a mislynch. Lynching a buddy on D1 should be avoid if possible. If your partner is scummy af yes, do it but you should try to save him if you can. Bussing is not bad but on D1 is stupid. U didnt play ur cards right at all u were obvious scum and when i pointed out your flaws no one listened, why are u trying to dismiss the possbility of a bussing through a past game anyways? Saving someone that is obvious scum is suicide for any mafia tho. I'm not dismissing it, I just disagree with it in this case. You can believe it could be bussing and that abhu is scum but I don't feel the same way. I was telling you my thoughts on bussing. With that last sentence are you saying abhu is the obvious scum in this case? |
Jan 25, 2018 10:54 AM
#1118
Shinichi-Kun said: ScarletCelestial said: Shinichi-Kun said: Oh wait thats u commenting on yurkins reads lol, i cant read into yurkin so cant tell you why she would rather ask someone else about me, but its prob cause she wanted to make sure her opinion felt similar to someone like pokeit who seemed pretty town at the time. ScarletCelestial said: @Shinichi-Kun On what Day would you be willing to share who your Mason buddy is? Thats not up to me its up to said buddy When you get a reply from your buddy, can you tell me what Day they'd be willing to claim? sure Ruu said: @Shinichi-kun about the strongman. Isn't that a 1-shot? Why would they waste it on D1? Pokeit is someone people will listen to, he is more dangerous than a vigilante that has a bigger chance of killing a townie. That's why a doc would be more incline to protect him over abhu. Hes someone people will listen to now, not last phase dont confuse the 2 phases lol. Also yes strongman is almost always a 1 shot, but if someone sees an oppurtunity they will take it. I am just assuming if phraze was the sk that she might have been nk immune which is why i thought a strongman would be in place plus if a doctor exists. By the end of D1 I think people were trusting Pokeit and by the start of D2 they were listening to him and trusting him. I'm not confusing the two phases. The kill is at night, after the end of D1 which means mafia needs to think who could become an actual threat in the near future and who could be useful to them. |
Jan 25, 2018 10:55 AM
#1119
Ruu said: Ill take what i get with a grain of salt is all lolShinichi-Kun said: Ruu said: Shinichi-Kun said: Ruu said: Pokeit said: Ruu said: Why would it be a waste to kill me if I was a town read by everyone? Wouldn't that be a pretty safe kill? What do you mean by getting manipulated?lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: how do u get pocketed by the one who wanted to Lynch you.Phraze completely pocketed me. I didn't even consider tpr. I have some questions for the hosts so when I get some answers I'll give you my thoughts. For now great job unknown person that made this possible! Day there was a strong man, why would mafia use it night one? I'm more inclined to believe someone killed them self because of who they attacked, which his on phraze died. Because Phraze always wants to lynch me no matter her alignment. That is nai. I don't pay attention to that but the other stuff. And I never consider she could be tpr at all. I'm not surprise mafia killed Phraze she was the obvious choice if you did some PoE. Pokeit was town read by everyone so killing him would be a waste. Better to try and manipulate him. The rest can be use for mislynches because some are not very active and the ones that are, fight against each other. So yeah, Phraze was the best option because she is a strong player and not easy control or get lynch. I don't know why yurkin died thou. Why would Phraze choose them if she was sk? I'm thinking maybe Phraze was something else and she also could kill whomever tried to kill her. If I were the mafia I think killing you would be a waste because, since you are almost (now for real) confirmed town I'd rather try to make you town read me/ convinced you to vote for someone I know is town. If that doesn't work then yeah, I would kill you N2 because that's a safe bet. Also if there were a doc I would think they would protect you on N1. If mafia has good players, I think they would have consider all this before choosing a target. Your ignoring 2 many viarbles, like the existance of a strongman which is common in setups with a doctor. Again why are u discussing your plans as scum? If i were the doctor i would have chosen the vigilante to protect not the unclaimed innocent child. Ruu said: ironace said: Shinichi-Kun said: ironace said: ok so i didnt pay attention but i looked at the votes throughout the day and yurkin hadnt removed her vote whatsoever.So i dont think she was bussing. Also, @scarletcelestial what made you believe yurkin was scum? Depends what her reason was for voting, why do u assume it was bussing tho? I didnt assume anything, i know some scum tend to buss. But the also unvote later on. But yurkin didnt. So either she hates trash personally and bussed him or she knew that everybody(active) believed trash was scum and would be an easy place to keep a vote without being too suspicious.For now,i think trash is clear. lemme look back and see hwat was her reasoning again. Bussing a partner on D1 just for town cred is stupid. You shouldn't bus your buddies until you know for certain it's your win if they die (Since Shin keeps bringing Kiznaiver, that's my example). If you need town cred then you can buss them if that's the only way to avoid loosing two mafias if they are both on the scum list. But that's not the case here, so I'm inclined to believe abhu is clear with this flip and vca. U didnt know it was your win, town just didnt listen to me when i pointed out many times that u were scum that game. A good player is not afraid of 1 teammate dieing due to a buss lol logic340 said: This Togs train is quite interesting. He's like the second least active player in this game. Is he really the best place to start on D2? Prob not but i want him in the game, i am getting bad vibes since he was super active as town in his last game. Yes I knew. I had pocketed logic and that was all I needed to win in that case. And great, you figured our I was scum but nobody listened to you because I had played my cards right. Is not about being afraid smh but I doubt yurkin would buss her partner on D1 when there were other options and it was not difficult to get a mislynch. Lynching a buddy on D1 should be avoid if possible. If your partner is scummy af yes, do it but you should try to save him if you can. Bussing is not bad but on D1 is stupid. U didnt play ur cards right at all u were obvious scum and when i pointed out your flaws no one listened, why are u trying to dismiss the possbility of a bussing through a past game anyways? Saving someone that is obvious scum is suicide for any mafia tho. I'm not dismissing it, I just disagree with it in this case. You can believe it could be bussing and that abhu is scum but I don't feel the same way. I was telling you my thoughts on bussing. With that last sentence are you saying abhu is the obvious scum in this case? |
Jan 25, 2018 11:01 AM
#1120
Shinichi-Kun said: Ill take what i get with a grain of salt is all lol I'm okay with that. |
Jan 25, 2018 11:14 AM
#1122
Jan 25, 2018 11:18 AM
#1123
ScarletCelestial said: Lol, it's especially funny cause not only did you RVS vote them, you are the only person to ever have a vote on yurkin.Again: I only RVSd yurkin because I am BECOMING CONVINCED I'M PSYCHIC. Also: I removed my vote on yurkin about half way through D1. I thought I'd be back before phase change, I wasn't, so didn't have a vote placed anywhere. |
Jan 25, 2018 11:22 AM
#1124
abhutrash said: ScarletCelestial said: Lol, it's especially funny cause not only did you RVS vote them, you are the only person to ever have a vote on yurkin.Again: I only RVSd yurkin because I am BECOMING CONVINCED I'M PSYCHIC. Also: I removed my vote on yurkin about half way through D1. I thought I'd be back before phase change, I wasn't, so didn't have a vote placed anywhere. I've done the same thing in about three games now. Includes Mayoiga Mafia, where I voted Coro, the fake Mayor. Maybe I'm somewhat psychic when it comes to RVS. |
Jan 25, 2018 11:26 AM
#1125
@Pokeit Could you give us your current alignment reads when you get the chance? As a conf town, they should give some useful insight. |
Jan 25, 2018 11:28 AM
#1126
abhutrash said: @Pokeit Could you give us your current alignment reads when you get the chance? As a conf town, they should give some useful insight. riku, too and probably Shin. At least by the end of the Night phase. Mainly because confirmed Townies have more chance of death. ash, you too, especially because you're Vigilante. |
Jan 25, 2018 12:38 PM
#1127
I just noticed the timer is incorrect, I'll fix that. |
Jan 25, 2018 12:44 PM
#1128
idk did you? like I said, if u didnt use vote: I most def missed it... |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Jan 25, 2018 12:45 PM
#1129
ScarletCelestial said: Coro wasnt a fake mayor... get got converted, Im just gunna say that scum wouldnt rvs each other, maybe its nai, but ill just say you are town!firmedabhutrash said: ScarletCelestial said: Again: I only RVSd yurkin because I am BECOMING CONVINCED I'M PSYCHIC. Also: I removed my vote on yurkin about half way through D1. I thought I'd be back before phase change, I wasn't, so didn't have a vote placed anywhere. I've done the same thing in about three games now. Includes Mayoiga Mafia, where I voted Coro, the fake Mayor. Maybe I'm somewhat psychic when it comes to RVS. |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Jan 25, 2018 3:19 PM
#1130
sooo where did everyone go? |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Jan 25, 2018 3:20 PM
#1131
vote: Shin u have 24 hours to prove to me you are town, w/o using your claim... @shinichi-kun |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Jan 25, 2018 4:10 PM
#1132
Team? |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Jan 25, 2018 4:33 PM
#1133
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Jan 25, 2018 4:43 PM
#1134
apparantly i dont exist atm.. cheers abu Vote: Shinichi-kun I don't trust your claim. |
"I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
Jan 25, 2018 4:46 PM
#1135
aw, sorry. I'll edit the VC now. |
Jan 25, 2018 4:47 PM
#1136
AbuHumaid said: aw, sorry. I'll edit the VC now. hahha :) all g |
"I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
Jan 25, 2018 5:17 PM
#1137
ScarletCelestial said: I'm finding it a bit odd you included Tainted in this analysis. He's dead, and he's town, and you put him as a neutral. It feels like busywork - it's analysis alright, but it's not analysis using all the information we have. I've seen scum do this before, so it rubs me the wrong way. I just can't understand the point of including a read on someone who's dead.ScarletCelestial said: 60 Fluff, with me. 98 "I do agree with togs about behaviour over theory still something is bugging me" Also starts to go after Pokeit. 109 Wonders about when wisp became a tonal reader. 110 Spots riku Miller claim very quickly. However, it was 108 so they likely noticed it after posting 109. 178 Vote count 204 Questions ash on their Phraze meta. 265 "a convenient way to fall back later. And I feel like voting there tbh." - Concerning ash. 267 Votes ash. 276 Questions Shin on their ash read. 277 Questions Ruu. 281 Asks Togs a question, concerning the train. 284 Fluff. 287 Questions Pokeit on their thoughts about Shin. 289 Fluff. 302 Questions logic. 307 Response to logic. 563 Vote Count 596 Considers Phraze odd. 604 I don't exactly know what this is trying to say. 611 Fluff. 658 Fluff? 683 Likes Karote's work. 688 Somewhat criticises Karote's work. 691 Mentions wisp and riku. 692 Criticises Pokeit. 693 Asks Phraze if ash is a bad lynch. 698 "I'm getting a bad feeling" about ash's wagon. Might be more Townie as a result? 700 Finding riku bad, as whoever voted them (not mentioned). 703 Comfortable on ash despite bad feeling of people, suspect. 706 Fluff? 708 Snaps at Phraze. 709 The lesson from my post: to look at things as different perspectives. 710 Odd reason to vote ash. 714 Argues with Phraze. 715 Fluff. 761 Vote Count 853 Fluff? 862 Quick complaint about Tainted[/url] 871 Might be portraying the vote change as scummy. 878 Tainted next target? 882 Frustrated fluff. 901 Fluff. 926 Fluff. The above is pretty much only description. My thoughts will be in my next post. Shinichi-Kun - What worries me with interactions with Shin was that there were few, despite their prominence. This is because she asks Pokeit about him instead of forming her own opinion and questions why he was on the ash train, which he was not on later when she complained about it. abhutrash - Was one of the main people on his wagon, and seemed to really want them dead. Ergo, Townie interaction. Karote Likes their work, then when asked backs off on their thought a little bit. Not sure if this is good or not yet, since it might just be trying to pocket them. riku Complains about him a bit in the late Day, might be a setup for the next lynch. logic340 Very little interaction. Nothing alignment indicative in my opinion. Pokeit Looks like they wouldn't mind a Pokeit lynch. Ruu Asks Ruu a question but never follows up on it. ironace Tainted Says that Tainted is scum during Twilight. Not sure if it would become a joke or an easy lynch. lastwhisper31 Complains about the ash wagon multiple times, which he was always on, yet never moves a vote onto him, which I feel is suspect. Togs Yachty My thoughts on people based on yurkin's ISO. Colours indicate which way it goes based on yurkin's reads alone. Does not comprise of my final, full thoughts. May not align with claims already made. ScarletCelestial said: Why is this important to you?Shinichi-Kun said: Oh wait thats u commenting on yurkins reads lol, i cant read into yurkin so cant tell you why she would rather ask someone else about me, but its prob cause she wanted to make sure her opinion felt similar to someone like pokeit who seemed pretty town at the time. ScarletCelestial said: @Shinichi-Kun On what Day would you be willing to share who your Mason buddy is? Thats not up to me its up to said buddy When you get a reply from your buddy, can you tell me what Day they'd be willing to claim? ScarletCelestial said: Aren't these reads just based on claims?abhutrash said: @Pokeit Could you give us your current alignment reads when you get the chance? As a conf town, they should give some useful insight. riku, too and probably Shin. At least by the end of the Night phase. Mainly because confirmed Townies have more chance of death. ash, you too, especially because you're Vigilante. lastwhisper31 said: It is NAI, I can confirm I do that as scum. If I missed it, is there another reason you're townconfirming Scarlet? Because this reasoning seems hardly justified to be giving someone as strong of a read as "town!firmed."ScarletCelestial said: Coro wasnt a fake mayor... get got converted, Im just gunna say that scum wouldnt rvs each other, maybe its nai, but ill just say you are town!firmedabhutrash said: ScarletCelestial said: Lol, it's especially funny cause not only did you RVS vote them, you are the only person to ever have a vote on yurkin.Again: I only RVSd yurkin because I am BECOMING CONVINCED I'M PSYCHIC. Also: I removed my vote on yurkin about half way through D1. I thought I'd be back before phase change, I wasn't, so didn't have a vote placed anywhere. I've done the same thing in about three games now. Includes Mayoiga Mafia, where I voted Coro, the fake Mayor. Maybe I'm somewhat psychic when it comes to RVS. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Jan 25, 2018 5:39 PM
#1138
ironace said: this stuff. lemme look some more edit--why didnt anyone question her again? smh eh. Im back to square 1 And why didn't you? : D I thought she played like always, sharing her thoughts time to time and playing lowkey. Didn't felt anything worthy to attack her for. |
Jan 25, 2018 5:45 PM
#1139
Will you use your vote today then? |
Jan 25, 2018 5:52 PM
#1140
Shinichi-Kun said: Pokeit said: Are masons always town-alligned? Or is there a possibility that one of them is scum? Not always but i aint sure if thats considered a bastard role if its done like that. Why aren't you outing your other mason? |
Jan 25, 2018 5:58 PM
#1141
Interactions with Yurkin: Scarlet : | Pokeit: ||| Shin: |||||| Abhu: | Tainted: ||| Logic: | Wisp: ||| Phraze: |||||||| (doesn’t really matter but Ill add her anyways, for clarities sake) Ruu: ||| Riku: | Ironace: | (first interaction with Yurkin, really friendly….) Yurkins interactions w/ others: *Questions Pokeit *Questions my tonal read comment *First one to get Riku’s claim *Questions Abhu’s meta on Phraze *Agrees w/ me on Abhu *Votes Trash *Questions when Shin says Abhu is playing just like himself *Questions why Ruu is getting town vibes on pokeit (kinda makes me laugh now…) *Pings Togs a question (possible W/W ping) *Attacks Logic, kinda (could still be W/W but feels more like W/V) *Ok with Logics answer(feels a lot more like W/W) *Yurkin is worried about Phraze…. (possible that she realized that phraze was tpr) *Yurkin said Phraze’s post felt like a threat *Makes a joke about Ruu, towards me *Likes Karote’s #679 *Agrees to disagree with Phraze *Likes me and Riku *Neutral on Pokeit *asks if ash is a bad lynch to Phraze *worried that phase change is approaching quickly *questions the riku vote, believe it was from pokeit *bad feeling, still comfortable with vote on abhu *made a joke about Scarlet’s #362 *ok with rng lynch it seems *brings up that tainted created another train *confused by the last min vote change *calls out tainted for scum (feels like a slight buss imo) #571 Riku towards Yurkin figuring out how his role… don’t know if I like the tone… #582 Ruu says shes gunna reread Yurkin #725 Questions why Tainted town reads Yurkin #735 Tainted states that this feels like Yurkins town game, but hasn’t seen her scum game before (feels like W/W) #855 another post that kinda feels like W/W Jesus what a read… So who moves up and who moves down from this little analysis… Ruu --- Townier Shin --- still scummy imo Abhu --- slight town move Tainted --- dead Logic --- slight scum move Riku --- still in timeout Ironace --- still scummy still believe that Scarlet is town!firmed at this point P.S Edit: I went through this if Tainted was alive, god tho its kinda good hes dead, because if he was still alive id think he is scum |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Jan 25, 2018 6:02 PM
#1142
@re1031 well the fact that she brought up that her vote was RVS, kinda makes me feel like she is town, because idk seems like she would let it slide if she was scum because i just pocketed myself... |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Jan 25, 2018 6:03 PM
#1143
Karote said: based on who answers will pretty much confirm if he is scum or not to me... tbh his claim was so bad, tonally seemed fake, same with Abhu's claim... almost felt like he was ok with dying, but then decided maybe i should try a fake claim to save myself... or maybe he just wasnt paying attention to EoD... who knows? Shinichi-Kun said: Pokeit said: Are masons always town-alligned? Or is there a possibility that one of them is scum? Not always but i aint sure if thats considered a bastard role if its done like that. Why aren't you outing your other mason? |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Jan 25, 2018 6:08 PM
#1144
Time to analyze the EoD Madness of Day one and go through all the hows of the night deaths, and some whys (Less whys though because speculation only creates wine) |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Jan 25, 2018 6:18 PM
#1145
lastwhisper31 said: Pokeit said: if u are town, u are playing so bad right now. I'm in class right now, break the tie or don't, I had a revelation that I don't have time to explain... Vote with me or don't, idclastwhisper31 said: vote: Ironace choo choo Anyone want to join me in voting for lastwhisper31? vote: lastwhisper31 Sorry if you already explained this (if you did please tell me where) but what was that revelation? |
Jan 25, 2018 6:22 PM
#1146
Ruu said: well for one I thought that abhu was masons with shin, and the reason I voted Ironace, was because I kinda felt like Tainted was town even with his EoD shenanigans, so I voted Ironace, because the way him and Logic were interacting made me feel like they were Wolf/Wolflastwhisper31 said: Pokeit said: lastwhisper31 said: I don't like this vote. Very weird and scummy.vote: Ironace choo choo Anyone want to join me in voting for lastwhisper31? vote: lastwhisper31 Sorry if you already explained this (if you did please tell me where) but what was that revelation? |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Jan 25, 2018 6:27 PM
#1147
if we were to go by just the lowest interactions, then my scum team would be Logic, Abhu, and Riku... but unlikely |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Jan 25, 2018 6:33 PM
#1148
okay I'm finally on pc and my iso on ironace it's... short lol seriously, not enough posts to get anything decent... this is what I've got: Iron made a few fluff posts at the beginning of D1 and then disappeared. Then he showed up and did a little bit of back reading. #312 he gives us some thoughts, mostly about riku which is weird because he was giving an opinion without actually reading his posts. He talked about the idea of riku being tpr or scum rather than miller. ok so I'm kinda caught up if he read some stuff then why only comment on riku and, like I said, without even reading his posts or knowing what was going on for sure. And then he says nothing else. No comments on Pokeit, LW, Shin.. the most active players during the first 24 hs of D1... He asked riku something and then he goes to bed ( I get it, he was tired but still, Tainted/Phraze/logic/lw/shin,etc... so many people online and not one interaction? ) Pokeit asked for reads, he said he had none. Then, there is his #676 Wait they did?! I only read roughly so I didn't know that lel.I didn't even know he was miller before I read some posts saying he claimed miller and then went to check for myself. he didn't know that riku had claimed and he had only read some post saying he had claimed miller. So let me get this right: he only read some posts, commented on only one player and then admits to not even read enough to give an informed opinion on that said player? idk, lazy af... His #802 is not that bad... I mean, he was not the only one that didn't know masons are always town. I actually think this is a decent comment. And that's about it... the rest is fluff or posts completely nai. unvote not enough to scum read him. He looks like a lazy townie. I'm not a fan but my vote was mostly because of that reaction post and his comments on riku... vote:logic @RE1031 any reads? vote: logic @logic340 you are not town!logic >_> can I get a nice list of reads on everyone from you? convince me that you are town. we can read each other pretty well, do you think I'm town or scum? |
Jan 25, 2018 6:33 PM
#1149
i feel like im talking to myself... is it already night 2? feels so wierd... |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
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