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Lately, it feels like AI art is the forbidden dark magic of the anime fandom. Post one AI-generated waifu? Boom, you’re suddenly labeled the Frieza of fanart. Admit you actually like how it looks? Now you’re a “soulless corporate shill” who hates real artists and probably kicks puppies for fun. Is using and liking AI art really enough to make you the antagonist of the anime community? Or is this just another case of internet people cranking the drama dial to max?
Today, 1:12 AM
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Depends, most AI generated waifus look rather boring, people should put in more effort to generate worthwhile ones.
Today, 1:23 AM
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That AI stuff is all scams anyways. Does not matter because human extinction is fast arriving.
Here is my Pixiv account of my hentai drawings.....

https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/104739065

Here is my blog....

https://theendofindustrialcivilization.blogspot.com/?m=1
Today, 1:33 AM
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Yes.

It's not about facilitating drama, it's the real issue. Stolen data from non-consenting artists aside, it has an environmental impact as well. Not many people are even aware that each lazy prompt for a stupid advice or to generate a perfect waifu is adding up to power consumption, causing more drainage of water resources to cool down the generators used by AI. Just because something is free and easy, doesn't mean it's actually free or okay to use. There is always a catch and people should always think twice before happily jumping on a bandwagon.
Today, 1:43 AM
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lagom
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Reply to Ten
Yes.

It's not about facilitating drama, it's the real issue. Stolen data from non-consenting artists aside, it has an environmental impact as well. Not many people are even aware that each lazy prompt for a stupid advice or to generate a perfect waifu is adding up to power consumption, causing more drainage of water resources to cool down the generators used by AI. Just because something is free and easy, doesn't mean it's actually free or okay to use. There is always a catch and people should always think twice before happily jumping on a bandwagon.
@Ten 1 bit llm and gemini diffusion both in development solves environmental problems of gen ai
Today, 2:12 AM
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That AI stuff looks really shoddy. It is full of anatomy errors.
Here is my Pixiv account of my hentai drawings.....

https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/104739065

Here is my blog....

https://theendofindustrialcivilization.blogspot.com/?m=1
Today, 2:14 AM
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lagom
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That AI stuff looks really shoddy. It is full of anatomy errors.
@DesuMaiden again your pixiv bookmarks are full of sexualize loli ai arts
Today, 2:18 AM
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Dragevard said:
Lately, it feels like AI art is the forbidden dark magic of the anime fandom. Post one AI-generated waifu? Boom, you’re suddenly labeled the Frieza of fanart. Admit you actually like how it looks? Now you’re a “soulless corporate shill” who hates real artists and probably kicks puppies for fun. Is using and liking AI art really enough to make you the antagonist of the anime community? Or is this just another case of internet people cranking the drama dial to max?

Not a villain just of the anime cominity lol but of any art comunity xD

Why? Because the problem with AI "art" isn't that it looks terrible, it's that it literally plagiarises other people's art, and worst of all it doesn't even put in any effort in doing so, it is an insult to creativity and hard work, that is why it is loathed in any artist cominity

The people who don't see a problem with AI "art" either genuinely have no idea how insulting it looks from an artists point of view, or are jelouse (and insecure) cunts who praise stuff that's mediocre while putting down actual talent to make themselve feel superior
Today, 2:26 AM
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I dont give a damn about the Anime Community so yeah!
villain is fine.
Today, 2:33 AM

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Reply to deg
@DesuMaiden again your pixiv bookmarks are full of sexualize loli ai arts
@deg that is because nobody produces decent non AI artwork anymore. There are fewer and fewer non AI artists anymore. AI art does suck. But fewer and fewer people can draw without AI.
Here is my Pixiv account of my hentai drawings.....

https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/104739065

Here is my blog....

https://theendofindustrialcivilization.blogspot.com/?m=1
Today, 2:35 AM
lagom
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@deg that is because nobody produces decent non AI artwork anymore. There are fewer and fewer non AI artists anymore. AI art does suck. But fewer and fewer people can draw without AI.
@DesuMaiden then youre a massive hypocrite and speaking of anatomy errors look at your own damn drawings
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That AI stuff is all scams anyways. Does not matter because human extinction is fast arriving.
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It is basically the same as spamming because any monkey can do it.
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Today, 3:07 AM

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Oil paint considered harmful, those fancy and easy to use chemical abomination kills artists who practice the art of composing color from plants and eggs. Folks, first I really don't care what people here think, and second the only constant in art is the rapid change of technology. Each new technology (e.g. the electric guitar in the early 1960s) creates a hype, a lot of trash, and eventually becomes a normal tool for artists.

Thus I'm ignoring all the AI discussion, it's wasted time. I like what I like, and the technology it was made with is irrelevant.

Today, 3:23 AM

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Yes, most of the anime fandom that I'm in has zero tolerance towards AI slop because it's an insult to those who draw art creatively and genuinely - especially if AI art becomes mainstream and they get more recognition than real art.
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Today, 3:34 AM

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tbh AI is just so bland looking and uses way too much electricity


but no you ain't a villain, just meh
Today, 5:47 AM

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People complain that AI harms the environment (it uses electricity = requires burning fossil fuels = destroys the environment), but at the same time they're completely fine harming the environment themselves by continuing to lead a consumeristic lifestyle, including using electricity for their own pleasure.

Please shut the fuck up and stop being a hypocrite.
Today, 6:30 AM

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in a few years being an artist will be considered a hobby not a career choice.
Today, 6:31 AM

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People complain that AI harms the environment (it uses electricity = requires burning fossil fuels = destroys the environment), but at the same time they're completely fine harming the environment themselves by continuing to lead a consumeristic lifestyle, including using electricity for their own pleasure.

Please shut the fuck up and stop being a hypocrite.
@iweebz Oh, do you by any chance live in a log cabin without electricity and heating/aircon? Do you wash your hand sewn clothes by the river? How may i ask are you typing a reply on an internet forum i assume you're using for your own pleasure without a computer that uses electricity?

Maybe before condemning the consumeristic electricity indulging lifestyle of others make some lifestyle changes of your own and you may just avoid sounding just as hypocritical as the "AI harms the enviroment" people
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@iweebz Oh, do you by any chance live in a log cabin without electricity and heating/aircon? Do you wash your hand sewn clothes by the river? How may i ask are you typing a reply on an internet forum i assume you're using for your own pleasure without a computer that uses electricity?

Maybe before condemning the consumeristic electricity indulging lifestyle of others make some lifestyle changes of your own and you may just avoid sounding just as hypocritical as the "AI harms the enviroment" people
@DigiCat The difference is that I'm not saying AI is bad. Zero reading comprehension.
Today, 6:35 AM

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No. You become a villain when you claim yourself to be an artist.
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@DigiCat The difference is that I'm not saying AI is bad. Zero reading comprehension.
@iweebz Zero reading comprehention? So i should just look at the words you type and ignore the holier than thouh attitude? Would that be good reading comprehention?
Today, 6:55 AM

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AI isn't magic
It's just a bullshit algorithm that steals real artists' imagery from the internet and uses it to generate an average of the images it steals.
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i dont know much about AI images and such but somehow it feels wrong to see it being used.. i feel we should support creativity of real human artists instead 😊 their works also look more amazing
Today, 7:16 AM

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Reply to inim
Oil paint considered harmful, those fancy and easy to use chemical abomination kills artists who practice the art of composing color from plants and eggs. Folks, first I really don't care what people here think, and second the only constant in art is the rapid change of technology. Each new technology (e.g. the electric guitar in the early 1960s) creates a hype, a lot of trash, and eventually becomes a normal tool for artists.

Thus I'm ignoring all the AI discussion, it's wasted time. I like what I like, and the technology it was made with is irrelevant.
@inim This is a total Red Herring. The critics of "AI" (young or old) are not against technology.

This AI program is a method created by $corporate $billions to steal content (written and pictorial) so big corporations can eliminate more overhead and increase their profits:
"Hey look! We don't need graphic artists anymore we have AI!" (which just steals everyone else's graphics)
"We don't need to pay writers anymore! We have AI!" (which steals everyone else's writing, and creates fake articles & reviews)
"We don't need to pay anyone to monitor that property/system we have AI!" (which uses algorithms to replace the human's job)
And it rapidly increases its reach, exponentially. I don't think electric guitars could multiply themselves this way.....
It's the one technology that undoes all the others. It won't make your life ANY easier, it just steals everything and wants to turn you into a customer-for-life for some product.
Today, 7:28 AM
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no but AI is just a theft since it is just an algorithm trained on a massive scale that is based on existing things created by humans perfect example is the "AI art" it bascally copies multiple images from the web and generates it into one. AI do not exist and do not think, this is just marketting term.
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They're merely correctly dunking on you for your adoration of eating low quality Slop. If you treat McDonalds like High cuisine, you'll get mocked.

And that's before getting into all the ethics of Generative AI. The use of other's art without permission or compensation to teach the AI. The push to use this low quality slop to replace Real actual artists bc it's cheaper. The Environmental impacts to support the back-end.... Etc.

From both a quality AND ethical standpoint, it's not a hill worth dying on.
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AI is not immoral, but it is usually of shoddy quality.
Here is my Pixiv account of my hentai drawings.....

https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/104739065

Here is my blog....

https://theendofindustrialcivilization.blogspot.com/?m=1
9 hours ago

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Can't take seriously people who about morality, ethics and AI "stealing" stuff from others when they watch Anime and/or read manga on pirate sites. The irony is so funny at this point.
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8 hours ago

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Artist like to overreact with AI (And anything really... I have seen incredible work just to be ruined with a big "DO NOT REPOST" crossed in the middle).

AI is just bland, and it will never surpass people works, because AI art will just be an amalgamation of styles while one artist art is full of errors and ways to depict their art that will be their own style.

But to answer your question I dont think you will be a villain, but you will be more bland than people that actually put effort on it.
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I don't think anyone in the anime community thinks of me as a villain except for the anilist talluun who got himself fired from anilist for hating too much.

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