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So this season we’ve got two really standout shows: Takopi & Food Court. Both are just 6 episodes. Not 12. Not split-cour. Just a tight, digestible 6-ep run. At first I thought it was just a quirk, but now I’m starting to think this might actually be the future of anime. 6 eps means they can run two shows instead of a single show with 12 eps. And people's attention span are shortening making 6 an optimal amount of eps.
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Yesterday, 11:27 AM
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No. they'll skip straight to 1 minute clips and only release on tiktok and reels and shit.
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No. they'll skip straight to 1 minute clips and only release on tiktok and reels and shit.
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Yesterday, 12:16 PM
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And people's attention span are shortening making 6 an optimal amount of eps.

I don't think you understand what the word attention span means.
Yesterday, 12:27 PM
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Takopi is fairly well paced and every episode is packed with relevant content, that's how it should be.
Yesterday, 12:41 PM
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Its not the future at all, the way both series were written, call to such short runs. In fact the future is already here, now that everything is 12-13 eps as a cour or standalone season or 24 eps. Some are a bit longer and hit 30s at most. In the past, we had long running and we saw how that affected the anime industry and their staff. These two examples are simply anomalies that get their job done without overdoing it.


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Yesterday, 12:42 PM
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God no! Takopii was super inconsistent. 6 eps is so short for most stories that at that point I may as well watch a movie which are around as long.
Yesterday, 1:02 PM
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No, 6 episodes is too short and takopii's first episode was an hour-long episode.
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I actually want longer anime's. I prefer 24 eps (Not curs), or even longer.

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Yesterday, 1:23 PM

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you haves shit taste for liking those 2 garbage shows, go watch good anime , you pantomime!
Yesterday, 1:32 PM
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There is general historic tendency to more and more shorter "standard seasons", but right now even 12 episode show/seasons is suffer to made strong long term impact, so I don't see how even shorter one may work.

Sometimes such short shows can flash very brightly and quickly, but are just as quickly forgotten.
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Ngl this post tells me you haven't watched a lot of old anime. Prior to the 2000s, there were a lot of >10 episode anime series in the form of OVAs. Also the only reason Takopi was like that was because it's based off a short manga.
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More like it was already a thing in the past like with OVA series.
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I think Takopi suffered slightly because of 6 episodes. Maybe not 12 is not needed but 1-2 more episode was needed to pull off the ending better way. Felt rushed, inconsistent and way too happy go lucky.

Ik it's based on Manga so that's why it's short. But still applies same for manga with more chapters to flush out the last timeline.
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it depends on the source material anime adapts, the reason why takopi original sins was 6 eps it because this adapted 2 volumes of the manga, but for the anime that covers 4 volumes of the manga that are especially dense and text heavy that would be terrible adaptation. It also varies with how dense text heavy and crammed the weekly manga material is since this is what most anime adaptations based on the manga are before determining how many volumes in the season it covers let alone the monthly manga which are even more denser with material and longer than weekly manga due to them relasing once a month thus mangaka having unlimated chapter length on avareage full 45 to 70 pages that then allows mangaka now put as much content as they want than they already could do in weekly manga.
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In that case, I don't think I'd be an anime fan any longer, especially as an enjoyer of the longer ones.
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I think Takopi suffered slightly because of 6 episodes. Maybe not 12 is not needed but 1-2 more episode was needed to pull off the ending better way. Felt rushed, inconsistent and way too happy go lucky.

Ik it's based on Manga so that's why it's short. But still applies same for manga with more chapters to flush out the last timeline.
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Episode length varied from 21 to over 37 minutes long. First episode was longest nearly the length of two episodes. So technically it was equivalent to 7 episodes. They did it how they did to fit the episode formatting it maybe would have not split up well with more episodes, I dont know. So if cutting out repeat OPs and EDs 2 hours and 30 minutes very roughly.
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We could have discussed about the advantages of an irregular amount of episodes not constrained by the cour schedule, but OP always has to make the most disingenuous bait threads (but he's not the n°1 at doing this on MAL, I'd say he's in 2nd place).
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Well, I don't think so. 6 episodes is just too little time to tell a story (generally). Of course there are exceptions like Takopi but I would never make 6 episode animes my main form of entertainment and I think most people would tend to think that way.
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It wouldn't make sense given the television seasonal schedules. If it became the norm, you'd be having shows abruptly end halfway through the season and would require another show to start up in its time slot. And generally shows that start late in the season tend not to get picked up by viewers or have the hype that seasonal openers do, so I couldn't see the producers wanting that.
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I don't think 6 episodes is long enough; it is too short.
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they aren't even better in the present.
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I dont really think so, some animes takes 6 episodes just to get you to know the characters.

And about the attention spam is really simple: No, we shouldnt be rewarding mediocrity so it gets worse. We must search to improve it. And animes are like 25 minutes long, it is not a full 3-4 hours documentary.
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God, I hope not. 12 episode Shows suck enough as it is. Just trying to cram everything if they are adapting a Manga in that few episodes is bad enough. 6? OMG. It's the END.
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6 x 24 minutes is the same as 12 x 12 minutes we've had for a long time

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I am seriously worried something like this will happen in the future. Demon Slayer movies have shown how much money is to be made at the box office. It's possible that the business guys will futher push in that direction. Instead of doing 12 episodes seasons they will break it into 2 movies.
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Dragevard said:
At first I thought it was just a quirk, but now I’m starting to think this might actually be the future of anime. 6 eps means they can run two shows instead of a single show with 12 eps.

It's highly unlikely.
Firstly, in most cases anime is aired in TV in Japan and their slots are sold on a per season basis. This was true 20 years ago as well. If you look at Sailor Moon, in most cases the anime length was aroung 11-13 episode per season - usually 4 seasons. Therefore, you won't be able to sell a half a season show in most cases. Takopi was an ONA.
Secondly, it's the exact reason that you mentioned. People's attention span are worsening, their memory worsening, so they would likely forget about the previous seasons if the seasons would be only 6 eps long. It is also harder to achieve high engagement, so many people wouldn't watch an upcoming season. Therefore logically, having at least 12 episodes is better.

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Demon Slayer movies have shown how much money is to be made at the box office.

Bad example. In case of KnY, we are talking about a good adaptation that globally acknowledged.
But if you look at other anime movies, you can clearly see how they underperformed.

Koe no Katachi's director had a movie last year, Kimi no Iro. Its global box office was 2.5 million USD.
Wit Studio's new movie Fureru was below 1 million USD.

You first need to establish a massive audience, like KnY, Dragon Ball or One Piece. And then we can see box offices like:
- One Piece Film: Red: 171 million USD
- Dragon Ball Super: Broly: 115 million USD
- Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero: 86 million USD
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I wouldn't mind it to be "the future" if each episode is 48 mins long or so
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I genuinely hope that will not be the case.
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ktg said:
Bad example. In case of KnY, we are talking about a good adaptation that globally acknowledged.
But if you look at other anime movies, you can clearly see how they underperformed.

Koe no Katachi's director had a movie last year, Kimi no Iro. Its global box office was 2.5 million USD.
Wit Studio's new movie Fureru was below 1 million USD.

You first need to establish a massive audience, like KnY, Dragon Ball or One Piece. And then we can see box offices like:
- One Piece Film: Red: 171 million USD
- Dragon Ball Super: Broly: 115 million USD
- Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero: 86 million USD


No Demon Slayer wasn't a bad example because this is exactly my point. Instead of doing a proper final season of 26 episodes adapting Hashira training + Infinity castle, they pulled this bs just for the profits. If any manga or even original anime reaches global popularity this is bound to be repeated.
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ktg said:
Bad example. In case of KnY, we are talking about a good adaptation that globally acknowledged.
But if you look at other anime movies, you can clearly see how they underperformed.

Koe no Katachi's director had a movie last year, Kimi no Iro. Its global box office was 2.5 million USD.
Wit Studio's new movie Fureru was below 1 million USD.

You first need to establish a massive audience, like KnY, Dragon Ball or One Piece. And then we can see box offices like:
- One Piece Film: Red: 171 million USD
- Dragon Ball Super: Broly: 115 million USD
- Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero: 86 million USD


No Demon Slayer wasn't a bad example because this is exactly my point. Instead of doing a proper final season of 26 episodes adapting Hashira training + Infinity castle, they pulled this bs just for the profits. If any manga or even original anime reaches global popularity this is bound to be repeated.
@Captain-577 So, your exact point was that you are wrong, because your example is a special case and not universally applicable? :D
Then yes, you are right about you being wrong. xD

Also, if all 3 movies have the same length, then it does not have enough content for 26 episodes. The first movie is 2.5 hours, that's around 6-7 episodes, so 3 movies are around 18-21 episodes. That's not enough for 2 cours, but too many for 1 cour. Therefore, your reasoning is also bad here.
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I haven't seen the respective anime series, but that sounds awful. I like to think about the things I consume, and I don't think we should be reinforcing shortened attention spans.

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I may as well watch a movie which are around as long.

I often think this might be the better option for some things that are produced today, maybe the production quality would be higher this way, too.




Another hero? Oh, please!
You're a god-damn philistine.

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@Captain-577 So, your exact point was that you are wrong, because your example is a special case and not universally applicable? :D
Then yes, you are right about you being wrong. xD

Also, if all 3 movies have the same length, then it does not have enough content for 26 episodes. The first movie is 2.5 hours, that's around 6-7 episodes, so 3 movies are around 18-21 episodes. That's not enough for 2 cours, but too many for 1 cour. Therefore, your reasoning is also bad here.
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Nah my point was you are an @$$
Now write a wall text explaining why my reasoning is bad here
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anime movies usually is like 4-6 tv episodes anyway so i do not mind
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Nah my point was you are an @$$
Now write a wall text explaining why my reasoning is bad here
@Captain-577 Lol, 5 sentences = "wall text". xDDD
Or how to say that you hate reading without saying you hate reading. :DDD
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I don't care about the format as long as it's good for an adaptation.

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No,but it's nice to see a show shorter than the usual 12/24 format once in a while
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The reason Food Court is only 6 episodes is because the manga only has 25 chapters.
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I have mix feelings about that,in one hand is nice now is an option,we know that a lot of animes could be so much better if have 6 eps, but if this become a new normal them I think this could be a problem, expecialy for q season perspective
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So I am assuming they are shortening the length of anime episodes because the attention span of anime viewers is rapidly shrinking?
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The future is 1 episode per year, just look at Fate/strange fake.
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God, I hope not. 11 - 13 episode one cours is already far too short and rushed for most series.

But I think it's fortunately just a quirk unique to these series. Which, I'm not watching Takopii yet, but I am watching and have seen all five episodes of See You Tomorrow at the Food Court which are out so far, and I think this series actually isn't rushed for what it is and this choice of length and episode count might fit it well. It's a pure dialogue-driven no-plot Slice of Life. And even for the longer one full cours, I've always said that Slice of Life are some of the only series for which it's appropriate and which can usually successfully pull it off. And those SoLs I'm referring to and thinking of when mentioning that in the past still have more plot than Food Court (because virtually anything would/does).

I'm actually in favor of more and more series disregarding the traditional constraints of more standard length episode counts and doing whatever is deemed most suitable for them. For example, I've appreciated and remarked several times how I've appreciated that we seem to have start getting an increasing number of two cour series again for the past two years since around the summer of 2023 or mid-2023. But I've liked how even they don't feel the need to always neatly conform to 24 - 26 episodes either. Some have been 28, some have been 23, some have been 20, etc.

If it works for a series and I'm interested in what it has to offer, say, and present, then I'll be pleased if it's 700 episodes or two episodes or one episode (though I guess one would just be a short film).
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No, it is not the future; these respective series have been short in their source material as well, so they didn't drag on anything.
12-episode anime will be the norm forever.
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No.
Unless it’s a ONA / OVA

1 cour is still the standard.
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I say 12 episodes is the optimal length for anime shows.
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6 episode being the future? I doubt that most anime seen is 12-13 episode with a run time of 22-25. Which received meh to great reception. Though special exceptions are known like takopi and food court are known. But I never heard of food court being talked so yeah.
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6 episode being the future? I doubt that most anime seen is 12-13 episode with a run time of 22-25. Which received meh to great reception. Though special exceptions are known like takopi and food court are known. But I never heard of food court being talked so yeah.
@Roixesae so what do you think is the optimal length for an anime series?
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Probably someone has mentioned this, but the original source of Takopi (manga) doesn't have many chapters (only 16 chapters), and 6-episode format is ideal for the pacing. Not sure about the source of Food Court.

But it will be interesting to see more of this format, since there are many good short manga out there which haven't been adapted yet.
The prime example is Three Days of Happiness (18 chapters), i'm sure many people will be overjoyed if it gets adapted (and if so, hopefully it falls into capable hands). The Gods Lie is also good, but it only has 5 chapters so a movie format probably suits more (6-episode format is still possible depending on the direction).
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