Lord_Sithis said: coromandel said: Or helps the mafia dispose of townies. You should only jump on a train if you have at least a solid reason to do so. Jumping on a train and "hope for the best" is never a good thing to do. I've seen many trains end bad because of that, the people just vote because most people are voting. But yeah, if we don't have leads I agree it's good.I disagree. Jumping on trains is a good thing. Especially when we don't have any leads. Because it puts pressure on players. I guess the mafia would be happy about a mislynch. But they can't erase their votes and what else they posted during the day. We can analyze everything. And if they had shitty reasons for their votes, if they were trying to save their mafia buddy by voting for a townie, we'll find out sooner or later. So I usually don't see it as a failure. Every lynch gives us information we can use to find scum. And also, if townies end up not using their votes because they're afraid of mislynching, it'll be easier for the mafia to manipulate lynches. |
ππ Vote Count 1.6 π reiynii (4) π | |π aa-dono, VladWolfsbane, DenjaX, Suzune-chan π π aa-dono (3) π | |π Lamby, Togs, Karote π πHolocaster (3) π | |π wen294, coromandel,Tingle π π DenjaX (1) π | |π Lord_Sithis π π Togs (1) π | |π CorruptedPurity π πGwendolly (1) π | |π reiynii π π wen294 (1) π | |π Holocaster π π ZombieWolf2508 (1) π | |π _Claire_ π π SightlessReality (1) π | |π SightlessReality π π Not Voting π:| | π Sodalicious_, Lupadim,ZombieWolf2508,TheConquerer, thegoliath , Gwendolly π |
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reiynii said: coromandel said: I didn't say I disliked bandwagons but rather, when I dislike one I wouldn't jump on it just because everyone else is. I am more individual based so if I read a player a townie, unless I start to find them suspicious (or someone points something out against them) then I will not vote for them.What do you dislike about bandwagons? Ah, my bad. x3 That sounds reasonable. |
reiynii said: wen294 said: It's dangerous to start discussions or lead a lynch train too because if whoever you targeted flipped town, you are the next one to get lynched.Yeah we do need some discussion to start forming. That said i have no experience with starting one and tbh i have no idea how to do so :| No Pain No Gain amirite? |
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lupadimSep 24, 2016 3:09 PM
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| Reiynii currently has most votes. Reiynii is voting for someone that is not voting at him. The reasoning was simple: Their name is cute. The person Reiynii is voting for never posted. Others are leading a train on Reiynii for reasons that I assume are linked to his first vote since people love to vote for other people that are voting, it's not even a mafia strategy, townies do it too for reasons that human psychology is yet to determine. For this reason, my vote is better placed on someone voting for Reiynii. I would rather vote the third person voting him, but that's an useless effort considering the current votes, so I'll vote for aa-dono who already has three votes. Vote: aa-dono |
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| While looking back, however, my reasoning has a flaw, since aa-dono does not appear to have voted on Reiynii for the reason I mentioned above. In fact, no one voted on Reiynii because of that, they all had completely random reasons such as "you are number 4" or "anagrams" Kill me |
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reiynii said: I'm not scared. Trains are always good. Besides, there might be a role out there that can detect scum on a train. Who knows? xDDIt's dangerous to start discussions or lead a lynch train too because if whoever you targeted flipped town, you are the next one to get lynched. |
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Gwendolly said: Hi^^ Welcome. |
Thank you thank you^^ Might be to drunk for this rn x.x Imma catch up tomorrow...I mean I guess today...is there a timer to keep track on? |
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Gwendolly said: Thank you thank you^^ Might be to drunk for this rn x.x Imma catch up tomorrow...I mean I guess today...is there a timer to keep track on? |
lupadim said: Do you believe those are not valid reasons? If so, what is the reason for your current vote?While looking back, however, my reasoning has a flaw, since aa-dono does not appear to have voted on Reiynii for the reason I mentioned above. In fact, no one voted on Reiynii because of that, they all had completely random reasons such as "you are number 4" or "anagrams" Kill me |
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Tingle said: Why do you choose Holocaster?Hmm... As my RVS isn't doing anything atm, as I haven't heard anything from them yet, it's about time to do some pressure voting. Change Vote: Holocaster |
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lupadim said: Good point.The person Reiynii is voting for never posted. @reiynii will you stay on your random vote or will you look for scum? |
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| I am unable to find any notable posts that someone made that could indicate them as mafia. Of course that also includes Gwendolly so for now I will stick to my random vote. I will change it when more people have posted. |
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reiynii said: Do you have any thoughts so far on coromandel, Suzune-chan, Lamby, Lord_Sithis, and Tingle?I am unable to find any notable posts that someone made that could indicate them as mafia. Of course that also includes Gwendolly so for now I will stick to my random vote. I will change it when more people have posted. |
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| Reiynii train looks wrong (its based on an anagram thats supposed to be found in their profile which I cannot find), so my best guess is that somebody from the train is maf but no one else on the train is. Maf would not want to place too many of their ppl on the same train. aa-dono, VladWolfsbane, DenjaX, Suzune-chan There's the Holocaster train is just there for the sake of a train and the aa-dono train which if you look at the reasoning behind it make no sense (He took number 4 which is unlucky number signalling death in many Asian languages). Why don't the people from that train vote someone more compatible? Lamby, Togs, Karote To be fair its only the first day (RVS stage) and everyone bullshits with their votes so its understandable. I think that the aa-dono train is senseless (or at least the reasoning behind it is senseless), the reiynii train imo also looks kinda wrong and the Holocaster train is even worse. So now we have to choose the lesser of three evils. But hey, its the first day; mistakes are more forgivable and trains doesn't have to make sense. But since lupadim voted aa-dono, the trains are tied. So I don't think I need to change my vote for now. tl;dr: All the trains makes no sense but whatever since its only day 1. |
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aa-dono said: I felt that I could get more out of a pressure vote on Holo than you. I haven't really played any games with him and so I am curious to how he acts under pressure. Tingle said: Why do you choose Holocaster?Hmm... As my RVS isn't doing anything atm, as I haven't heard anything from them yet, it's about time to do some pressure voting. Change Vote: Holocaster Also, looking at everything right now, I don't think any of these trains should end in a lynch. As they are pretty baseless. Often that's the case for Day1 lynches and in the end you get information out of it, regardless of the person's alignment. But as this is a 48h phase I expect us to be finding a more fit candidate. Looking at the statistics, there's a lot of scum and there might even be some third party we'll have to worry about, so every lynch is precious. |
CorruptedPurity said: Reiynii train looks wrong (its based on an anagram thats supposed to be found in their profile which I cannot find), so my best guess is that somebody from the train is maf but no one else on the train is. Maf would not want to place too many of their ppl on the same train. aa-dono, VladWolfsbane, DenjaX, Suzune-chan There's the Holocaster train is just there for the sake of a train and the aa-dono train which if you look at the reasoning behind it make no sense (He took number 4 which is unlucky number signalling death in many Asian languages). Why don't the people from that train vote someone more compatible? Lamby, Togs, Karote To be fair its only the first day (RVS stage) and everyone bullshits with their votes so its understandable. I think that the aa-dono train is senseless (or at least the reasoning behind it is senseless), the reiynii train imo also looks kinda wrong and the Holocaster train is even worse. So now we have to choose the lesser of three evils. But hey, its the first day; mistakes are more forgivable and trains doesn't have to make sense. But since lupadim voted aa-dono, the trains are tied. So I don't think I need to change my vote for now. tl;dr: All the trains makes no sense but whatever since its only day 1. My vote on reiynii was RVS but I'm leaving it there coz it seems interesting. I think Vlad voted him to build a train. Then DenjaX jumped in. Suzune wanted to see where the train leads. Lamby's vote on me was RVS. Similarly, I think Togs vote was to build a train. Not sure about Karote. lupadim was a little odd. Makes me feel like he's trying to stay away from the train, but then now that he's actually on another train doesn't really feel like he is avoiding one. Well actually scratch that. He avoided reiynii's train because it has the most votes. Then tied trains. Ehhhh.... I can't think of reasons... @lupadim why? |
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Lord_Sithis said: There's 3 big trains atm. Which do you think is a more sensible train to jump into if your only choice is between these 3?coromandel said: Or helps the mafia dispose of townies. You should only jump on a train if you have at least a solid reason to do so. Jumping on a train and "hope for the best" is never a good thing to do. I've seen many trains end bad because of that, the people just vote because most people are voting. But yeah, if we don't have leads I agree it's good.I disagree. Jumping on trains is a good thing. Especially when we don't have any leads. Because it puts pressure on players. |
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Tingle said: aa-dono said: I felt that I could get more out of a pressure vote on Holo than you. I haven't really played any games with him and so I am curious to how he acts under pressure. Why do you choose Holocaster? Also, looking at everything right now, I don't think any of these trains should end in a lynch. As they are pretty baseless. Often that's the case for Day1 lynches and in the end you get information out of it, regardless of the person's alignment. But as this is a 48h phase I expect us to be finding a more fit candidate. Looking at the statistics, there's a lot of scum and there might even be some third party we'll have to worry about, so every lynch is precious. Do you think all 3 (reiynii, holocaster and dono) are town? |
Lamby said: As for Mafia aligned scum count, there are 5 remaining.... or in this case due to the timing/D1, exactly 5 total. (Give or take potential conversions later on, though yeah.... that kind of gambling can come later down the track) No need to thank me. How do you know? :3 |
Lord_Sithis said: What kind of something happens are you waiting for? (sigh) Nevermind.aa-dono said: idk, not enough evidence to decide. I'll stick to my randomness until something happens.There's 3 big trains atm. Which do you think is a more sensible train to jump into if your only choice is between these 3? |
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| @Sodalicious_ @Lupadim @ZombieWolf2508 @TheConquerer @thegoliath @Gwendolly Thoughts so far? |
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| All the trains so far are terrible tbh. I honestly dunno why holo's train is still there. And for what it's worth, I dont have any scum reads on aa-dono or reiynii. |
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CorruptedPurity said: All the trains so far are terrible tbh. I honestly dunno why holo's train is still there. And for what it's worth, I dont have any scum reads on aa-dono or reiynii. Why are they terrible? |
| To everyone who thinks the trains are bad: What do you suggest we do? |
coromandel said: Holo doesn't react to it, and everyone's in it just add in pressure votes without actual pressure.CorruptedPurity said: All the trains so far are terrible tbh. I honestly dunno why holo's train is still there. And for what it's worth, I dont have any scum reads on aa-dono or reiynii. Why are they terrible? As for reiynii's train, no one's there had any good reasons (understandable since it's Day 1) but I like to leave my vote there since reiynii did nothing to convince me he's town. He also had faith that his train will not be permanent. (which made me think that some people are simply not willing to vote him) No comment on my own train lol. |
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coromandel said: no. I neither have a scum or town vibe from them yet. As it is too early for me to start reading people.Tingle said: I felt that I could get more out of a pressure vote on Holo than you. I haven't really played any games with him and so I am curious to how he acts under pressure. Also, looking at everything right now, I don't think any of these trains should end in a lynch. As they are pretty baseless. Often that's the case for Day1 lynches and in the end you get information out of it, regardless of the person's alignment. But as this is a 48h phase I expect us to be finding a more fit candidate. Looking at the statistics, there's a lot of scum and there might even be some third party we'll have to worry about, so every lynch is precious. Do you think all 3 (reiynii, holocaster and dono) are town? |
aa-dono said: Holo doesn't react to it, and everyone's in it just add in pressure votes without actual pressure. I do think these votes add pressure - Holocaster is one of the 3 players with the most votes after all. He just hasn't responded to it yet - which doesn't mean the train is bad. |
coromandel said: Lamby said: As for Mafia aligned scum count, there are 5 remaining.... or in this case due to the timing/D1, exactly 5 total. (Give or take potential conversions later on, though yeah.... that kind of gambling can come later down the track) No need to thank me. How do you know? :3 Someone with eyes, ones that work.... what a surprise. Variant of JoaTs. The only problem in going in gun-ho in this case is dealing with potential bastard elements. This suggests to me that there are one or more of the following present, but there could be other shit to consider: Potential conversion. Reversed flip for a specific Mafia role. I don't think the host would shit on the ability to this extent, but just in-case the host could have made it a bit less useful and had it ignore alignment masking. ^GF, miller etc. I think the way it's worded I should be safe to ignore the last thing mentioned and judging by the extent of "bastard elements" incorporated in their last game, I doubt we're dealing with more than one of those, so eh..... I don't believe I should have dilly-dallied concerning said check. |
CorruptedPurity said: All the trains so far are terrible tbh. I honestly dunno why holo's train is still there. And for what it's worth, I dont have any scum reads on aa-dono or reiynii. On this note, how's your vote going there.... seems cute enough. Do you have anything at all? Seeing as it's not a train, is it simply terrible? |
| I'm surprised so many people are saying "these trains are bad", "none of them should be lynched". It's day 1 and you barely know anything about others' alignments (if you're town, that is :>). So how can you say with confidence that they're "terrible" trains? One of them could be scum - no? The only one of them I don't really want to lynch is dono, because she's asked people lots of good questions. And yeah, she could still be bad but if she's town then we've lost someone who seems motivated and "productive". Personally, I'd happily lynch Lord_Sithis, Tingle or Holocaster today. @Holocaster What do you think of the votes stacked up against you? |
Tingle said: no. I neither have a scum or town vibe from them yet. As it is too early for me to start reading people. Ride Read or die. |
coromandel said: Based on what?I'm surprised so many people are saying "these trains are bad", "none of them should be lynched". It's day 1 and you barely know anything about others' alignments (if you're town, that is :>). So how can you say with confidence that they're "terrible" trains? One of them could be scum - no? The only one of them I don't really want to lynch is dono, because she's asked people lots of good questions. And yeah, she could still be bad but if she's town than we've lost someone who seems motivated and "productive". Personally, I'd happily lynch Lord_Sithis, Tingle or Holocaster today. @Holocaster What do you think of the votes stacked up against you? |
Lamby said: _Claire_ said: Just reminding how Shad kinda screwed it, he said there was a third party but in our last game there was no third party at all.. I doubt there is one too in this game, knowing him. I would probably be wrong though. Meh, possibilities are simply that. Bastard elements present, TPR and scum as a whole can go suck a lollipop. I don't need to gun your down for mentioning this, do I.....? I am just simply mentioning a possibility, wth. -.- |
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coromandel said: What about them that made you feel like they're a better lynch?Personally, I'd happily lynch Lord_Sithis, Tingle or Holocaster today. |
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aa-dono said: coromandel said: What about them that made you feel like they're a better lynch?Personally, I'd happily lynch Lord_Sithis, Tingle or Holocaster today. Hard toss-up there. I see a fair spread between the three: EZ lynch, a questionable/unfavourable stance and something that's already there. |
Heeeeehhh, I see. reiynii said: Suzune-chan said: Hm, I see. I guess people do mean different things by their acronyms but it's good if we are all on the same page, and knowing what we are talking about.Honestly Rei, I did no know what you called them. I just thought it would be nice to put that out here. Last time I played mafia on mal it was kind of a mix what people called them so I thought perhaps it was still the same. Well I would argue that not everyone has a role in bastard games because typically bastard means things like alignment changes or role changes so there need not be everyone with a power role to make it so. All it means really is that anyone we trust today can stab us in the back tomorrow. Friendships must be formed and reformed otherwise we risk the double cross. I for one do not wish to be played by another so I will try to retain that suspiciousness going into each new day. Regardless, speculating about abilities, in my opinion feel free to disagree, is a dangerous battle especially in a closed game. I once played a game where town had both a neighborhood and masons. We thought how can that be possible? Someone is lying allowing town to self destruct. So projecting opinions on power roles is dangerous because it means assuming some roles must be scum and some must be town. This is actually my third mafia game so I don't know much but what's the difference between a closed game and an open set up game? Closed setup=you dk what roles are there Open=roles are made known to players. I agree with Suzune I think we should start all our speculation about ability to 0. I speculated about ability in my last games, and it hit me hard because I thought it couldnt possibly be true (right, Denjax?). I guess we should be open about what is what atm, not trusting any abilities too fast in bastard elements is important. Also in day 1, no abilities (I think) is not yet done, so we dont know whats out there. |
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Lamby said: CorruptedPurity said: All the trains so far are terrible tbh. I honestly dunno why holo's train is still there. And for what it's worth, I dont have any scum reads on aa-dono or reiynii. On this note, how's your vote going there.... seems cute enough. Do you have anything at all? Seeing as it's not a train, is it simply terrible? +1 Lamby said: Someone with eyes, ones that work.... what a surprise. Variant of JoaTs. The only problem in going in gun-ho in this case is dealing with potential bastard elements. This suggests to me that there are one or more of the following present, but there could be other shit to consider: Potential conversion. Reversed flip for a specific Mafia role. I don't think the host would shit on the ability to this extent, but just in-case the host could have made it a bit less useful and had it ignore alignment masking. ^GF, miller etc. I think the way it's worded I should be safe to ignore the last thing mentioned and judging by the extent of "bastard elements" incorporated in their last game, I doubt we're dealing with more than one of those, so eh..... I don't believe I should have dilly-dallied concerning said check. You already got a result, huh? |
Lamby said: What's "Hard toss-up"?aa-dono said: What about them that made you feel like they're a better lynch? Hard toss-up there. I see a fair spread between the three: EZ lynch, a questionable/unfavourable stance and something that's already there. I actually like a Lord_Sithis lynch. Might get more out of him than just waiting for something to happen. Not sure about Tingle. Her first respond seems alright but after that nothing~ |
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Lord_Sithis said: coromandel said: But we should do our best to avoid lynching townies, so randomly jumping onto trains is not helpful.I guess the mafia would be happy about a mislynch. But they can't erase their votes and what else they posted during the day. We can analyze everything. And if they had shitty reasons for their votes, if they were trying to save their mafia buddy by voting for a townie, we'll find out sooner or later. So I usually don't see it as a failure. Every lynch gives us information we can use to find scum. And also, if townies end up not using their votes because they're afraid of mislynching, it'll be easier for the mafia to manipulate lynches. nobody knows who is what except scums. Jumping into train is probably not helpful, but its definitely better than doing nothing the entire game. Also, it isnt like its 10 mins before phase change and everyone just jumped into a random train. |
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aa-dono said: Lamby said: What's "Hard toss-up"?Hard toss-up there. I see a fair spread between the three: EZ lynch, a questionable/unfavourable stance and something that's already there. I actually like a Lord_Sithis lynch. Might get more out of him than just waiting for something to happen. Not sure about Tingle. Her first respond seems alright but after that nothing~ You can just read that as hard call if you want. Last time he did nothing and only followed it up with getting sassy and unruly and taking an easily avoidable lynch to the face leaving nothing but salt for actually taking their actions into account and having expectations for them. |
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