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Tingle said: I support this hands down. Give this person a metal.can't we just say third party..? to avoid any confusion? |
 Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
reiynii said: With an open setup all the roles and often even all the abilities that come with those roles are known to everybody. It seems that we have been avoiding setups like these, because of mass role claiming and so game throwing.Suzune-chan said: Hm, I see. I guess people do mean different things by their acronyms but it's good if we are all on the same page, and knowing what we are talking about.Honestly Rei, I did no know what you called them. I just thought it would be nice to put that out here. Last time I played mafia on mal it was kind of a mix what people called them so I thought perhaps it was still the same. Well I would argue that not everyone has a role in bastard games because typically bastard means things like alignment changes or role changes so there need not be everyone with a power role to make it so. All it means really is that anyone we trust today can stab us in the back tomorrow. Friendships must be formed and reformed otherwise we risk the double cross. I for one do not wish to be played by another so I will try to retain that suspiciousness going into each new day. Regardless, speculating about abilities, in my opinion feel free to disagree, is a dangerous battle especially in a closed game. I once played a game where town had both a neighborhood and masons. We thought how can that be possible? Someone is lying allowing town to self destruct. So projecting opinions on power roles is dangerous because it means assuming some roles must be scum and some must be town. This is actually my third mafia game so I don't know much but what's the difference between a closed game and an open set up game? |
reiynii said: Suzune-chan said: Third party roles, I believe.What does TPR stand for? Town power roles? Considering where and when, more in the sense of recent times. This would probably be the case. |
Suzune-chan said: Eh; lets do this for now. This could potentially lead to an interesting conversation. vote:reiynii One would hope as much. |
Suzune-chan said: Do every I every have every to every ping every body every post every to every get every them every to every come every back? Fixed* |
Tingle said: Well what I was suggesting was that we not assume what roles must be town and what roles must be scum, because that creates a system where we can come up with false bias on roles. This stemmed from your interest in third party roles.reiynii said: With an open setup all the roles and often even all the abilities that come with those roles are known to everybody. It seems that we have been avoiding setups like these, because of mass role claiming and so game throwing.Hm, I see. I guess people do mean different things by their acronyms but it's good if we are all on the same page, and knowing what we are talking about. This is actually my third mafia game so I don't know much but what's the difference between a closed game and an open set up game? |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Suzune-chan said: For the sake of arguement could we please do it like this: TPR - is town power roles SPR - scum power roles (MPR if you are not a scum person) While I have never seen anyone short hand third party roles before, I would argue it would have to be TPPR? And yes, why there could be a third party Sk. The role over from night will tell us that. So I see no need to list potential third party roles? So share your thoughts? I also assumed they probably exist. They are common in large games. No thanks :3 I'll Take TPR and PR if needed, though I usually don't even bother using PR when it's essentially a given within a role-madness set-up. |
Suzune-chan said: Well darn tingle quoted thet and not rei. Oops that does not make all the sense to you.Tingle said: Well what I was suggesting was that we not assume what roles must be town and what roles must be scum, because that creates a system where we can come up with false bias on roles. This stemmed from your interest in third party roles.With an open setup all the roles and often even all the abilities that come with those roles are known to everybody. It seems that we have been avoiding setups like these, because of mass role claiming and so game throwing. |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Suzune-chan said: Alright. +1Well what I was suggesting was that we not assume what roles must be town and what roles must be scum, because that creates a system where we can come up with false bias on roles. This stemmed from your interest in third party roles. |
Lord_Sithis said: LOL I didn't know this started How unruly might we be today~ :3? |
ππ Vote Count 1.5 π reiynii (4) π | |π aa-dono, VladWolfsbane, DenjaX, Suzune-chan π π aa-dono (2) π | |π Lamby, Togs π π DenjaX (2) π | |π Karote, Lord_Sithis π πHolocaster (1) π | |π wen294 π π thegoliath (1) π | |π tingle π π Togs (1) π | |π CorruptedPurity π πGwendolly (1) π | |π reiynii π π wen294 (1) π | |π Holocaster π π Sodalicious_ (1) π | |π coromandel π π ZombieWolf2508 (1) π | |π _Claire_ π π SightlessReality (1) π | |π SightlessReality π π Not Voting π:| | π Sodalicious_, Lupadim,ZombieWolf2508,TheConquerer, thegoliath , Gwendolly π |
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Tingle said: I see. It could be troublesome if it's a closed set up then because the mafia could claim any random Final Fantasy character and make up any abilities to paint themselves as townies.With an open setup all the roles and often even all the abilities that come with those roles are known to everybody. It seems that we have been avoiding setups like these, because of mass role claiming and so game throwing. Thank you anyway ^^ |
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Lord_Sithis said: So then what are your opinions on it?I see a reiynii train here... |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Lord_Sithis said: Do you not like the train?I see a reiynii train here... |
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Lord_Sithis said: I don't like how you felt the need to point that out.reiynii said: Never played Final Fantasy in my life so :)I see. It could be troublesome if it's a closed set up then because the mafia could claim any random Final Fantasy character and make up any abilities to paint themselves as townies. Thank you anyway ^^ |
Lord_Sithis said: Well Rei has posted a bunch. You could start with what you think of them?Suzune-chan said: Not sure if there are mafia there, it may be full RVSSo then what are your opinions on it? |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
| This is Final Fantasy Theme. Everybody can be main characters. That is why it is easy for scum to claim because I am confident the roles weren't switched xDD Good guys are town while Bad guys are mafia/indie. So I will just say this now, that whoever claim the MAIN main character, they should be town. So that's probably every main characters in DISSIDIA lmao. There are probably those who are not protagonist but still main characters though. |
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Lord_Sithis said: What does "seems fine" means? Does he lean town? Or mafia? Or neutral?Suzune-chan said: reiynii seems fine to me, but again, nothing serious has happened so farWell Rei has posted a bunch. You could start with what you think of them? |
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| @Coromandel thanks for the mention, for some reason I thought it started today. [B]vote lynch _Claire_[B] Since she was kind enough to vote for me. |
DenjaX said: This is Final Fantasy Theme. Everybody can be main characters. That is why it is easy for scum to claim because I am confident the roles weren't switched xDD Good guys are town while Bad guys are mafia/indie. So I will just say this now, that whoever claim the MAIN main character, they should be town. So that's probably every main characters in DISSIDIA lmao. There are probably those who are not protagonist but still main characters though. My character is from FF XV. Nope that's not in Dissidia :| Also, no wonder i didn't recognize the character. |
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| Since everyone was talking favorite FF's earlier, I've had the most fun with 12 out of the ones I've played. I love the open world, sound track, pretty much everything to it. |
wen294 said: There's no character in XV made it to Dissidia yet lmao. Maybe in 2020.My character is from FF XV. Nope that's not in Dissidia :| Also, no wonder i didn't recognize the character. |
| I just realized it's a 48 hr phase... Boy I'm so rusty. More serious discussions seem to be forming. It's good. Definitely going to change my vote but going to leave it for when I awake. I'll just sleep over this for now. |
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| Yeah we do need some discussion to start forming. That said i have no experience with starting one and tbh i have no idea how to do so :| |
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Lord_Sithis said: This train is a mistake but I think it's RVS so I'm not very worried.I see a reiynii train here... |
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| Vote Change: Holocaster We need more trains. |
wen294 said: It's dangerous to start discussions or lead a lynch train too because if whoever you targeted flipped town, you are the next one to get lynched.Yeah we do need some discussion to start forming. That said i have no experience with starting one and tbh i have no idea how to do so :| |
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| Vote change: aa-dono |
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| My best friend comes to the rescue >u< Haha! We do need to find out more. I feel like first day lynches are always based on luck. |
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reiynii said: If thet was true then the game would never win in town favor. We cannot spend all game worrying about stuff like that. Sure it is hard to have a perfect game but we cannot use blind rage to set up kills. It all depends on the reason for the train to begin with.wen294 said: It's dangerous to start discussions or lead a lynch train too because if whoever you targeted flipped town, you are the next one to get lynched.Yeah we do need some discussion to start forming. That said i have no experience with starting one and tbh i have no idea how to do so :| |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
reiynii said: Nah, what people say under pressure is telling. Pushing a couple of trains off the ground may give us the information we need. Better then last minute panic lynches.My best friend comes to the rescue >u< Haha! We do need to find out more. I feel like first day lynches are always based on luck. |
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Suzune-chan said: I agree with this too. I prefer to lynch someone based on discussion then lynch somebody randomly or a no lynch. Panic lynches are so helpful to mafia since they can easily claim that they have also panicked right before phase change.reiynii said: Nah, what people say under pressure is telling. Pushing a couple of trains off the ground may give us the information we need. Better then last minute panic lynches.My best friend comes to the rescue >u< Haha! We do need to find out more. I feel like first day lynches are always based on luck. |
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Lord_Sithis said: If I dislike a bandwagon, I will defend the target with all my might (whether I am town or mafia). I think that's my play style so sheeping is not considered as part of it.Nope, it just means you failed. But you should only jump onto a train if it has solid proof. You don't jump onto a train just because it has a lot of people, that's mafia behavior. |
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| Hmm... As my RVS isn't doing anything atm, as I haven't heard anything from them yet, it's about time to do some pressure voting. Change Vote: Holocaster |
Lord_Sithis said: reiynii said: Nope, it just means you failed. But you should only jump onto a train if it has solid proof. You don't jump onto a train just because it has a lot of people, that's mafia behavior.It's dangerous to start discussions or lead a lynch train too because if whoever you targeted flipped town, you are the next one to get lynched. I disagree. Jumping on trains is a good thing. Especially when we don't have any leads. Because it puts pressure on players. Votes/trains at the beginning of the game will always be pretty random, but they're necessary to get the game going. Voting for someone means pressuring them. If it later turns out a mafia member was leading in votes, it'll be easier to figure out who else is mafia. (= Usually the people who were trying to save them) reiynii said: Lord_Sithis said: If I dislike a bandwagon, I will defend the target with all my might (whether I am town or mafia). I think that's my play style so sheeping is not considered as part of it.Nope, it just means you failed. But you should only jump onto a train if it has solid proof. You don't jump onto a train just because it has a lot of people, that's mafia behavior. What do you dislike about bandwagons? reiynii said: wen294 said: It's dangerous to start discussions or lead a lynch train too because if whoever you targeted flipped town, you are the next one to get lynched.Yeah we do need some discussion to start forming. That said i have no experience with starting one and tbh i have no idea how to do so :| You should worry more about the evil mafia / third party roles, than about being lynched - no? :> |
coromandel said: I didn't say I disliked bandwagons but rather, when I dislike one I wouldn't jump on it just because everyone else is. I am more individual based so if I read a player a townie, unless I start to find them suspicious (or someone points something out against them) then I will not vote for them.What do you dislike about bandwagons? coromandel said: That's also true but I was just pointing out that since mafia has the advantage of knowing who we are then they could easily avoid lynch trains while pointing out some details to power that train and add more people to it. We of course shouldn't avoid bandwagons but we should not lynch whoever just because they were part of it.You should worry more about the evil mafia / third party roles, than about being lynched - no? :> |
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