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Saku_k said: RobertBobert said: Not necessary. Clannad is literally a pure harem formula and Tomoya is fully aware of all the girls' affection for him. The existence of an obvious main pairing has always been one of the options in this kind of show (it's called unwanted harem), like Love Hina. Clannad is not a harem series. Multiple girls != harem. Notice how harem isn't one of the tags for the series. Love Hina is a classic harem series. But it is very different from what Kanojo Okarishimasu is. "Existence of an obvious pairing" has nothing to do with harem. Is Toradora a harem series? Anyway, let's look at Love Hina. What is it about? The protagonist made a promise with a girl when he was a kid, and now is aiming to enter Todai. The overarching plot is A) trying to get into Tokyo University and B) Finding the girl he made the promise with. The characters don't confess their love for one another until the end. This is classic harem. Another example of this formula, albeit changed somewhat, in the modern era, is a series like 5-toubun no hanayome. What exactly is Kanojo Okarishimasu about though? It isn't really about anything. And the protagonist's feelings for the girl are already established in the beginning. Because of this, nothing ever actually happens in the series. I won't say it isn't harem, but it most definitely isn't classic harem. The protagonist is a completely legitimate reason to dislike this series. Nah. Many shows here don't have a yuri tag even though it is yuri. Lots of girls' love for Tomoya is literally one of the main themes of the show and Kaginado even jokes about it multiple times. Dude, I literally drilled this topic for many years and I know it perfectly. Don't try to have casual arguments with me just because it will help you to confirm your opinion about our dispute. Most harems have an obvious pairing right from the start and in some of them you can tell from the start that the MC loves the main girl. It's still a harem, whatever you think about it. And no, Toradora is not a harem, because 3 girls is still not enough for a harem. Now let's look at this show. Failed protagonist? check. He is loved by a group of beautiful girls of different types? check. Love is mainly caused only by the fact that he treats them well? check. Do the girls keep showing him attention even after it becomes obvious that he loves Chizuru? check. Stupid fanservice, random pervert scenes, etc? check. Why is this not a classic harem, again? This is a legitimate reason to hate the character. Dislike for the show because of this is already secondary. |
RobertBobertJul 24, 2022 1:04 AM
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RobertBobert said: Saku_k said: Clannad is not a harem series. Multiple girls != harem. Notice how harem isn't one of the tags for the series. Love Hina is a classic harem series. But it is very different from what Kanojo Okarishimasu is. "Existence of an obvious pairing" has nothing to do with harem. Is Toradora a harem series? Anyway, let's look at Love Hina. What is it about? The protagonist made a promise with a girl when he was a kid, and now is aiming to enter Todai. The overarching plot is A) trying to get into Tokyo University and B) Finding the girl he made the promise with. The characters don't confess their love for one another until the end. This is classic harem. Another example of this formula, albeit changed somewhat, in the modern era, is a series like 5-toubun no hanayome. What exactly is Kanojo Okarishimasu about though? It isn't really about anything. And the protagonist's feelings for the girl are already established in the beginning. Because of this, nothing ever actually happens in the series. I won't say it isn't harem, but it most definitely isn't classic harem. The protagonist is a completely legitimate reason to dislike this series. Nah. Many shows here don't have a yuri tag even though it is yuri. Dude, I literally drilled this topic for many years and I know it perfectly. Don't try to have casual arguments with me just because it will help you to confirm your opinion about our dispute. Most harems have an obvious pairing right from the start and in some of them you can tell from the start that the MC loves the main girl. It's still a harem, whatever you think about it. And no, Toradora is not a harem, because 3 girls is still not enough for a harem. This is a legitimate reason to hate the character. Dislike for the show because of this is already secondary. Your response is literally "Just trust me bro", so there is clearly no point in having a discussion with you. Have a nice day. |
Saku_k said: RobertBobert said: Nah. Many shows here don't have a yuri tag even though it is yuri. Dude, I literally drilled this topic for many years and I know it perfectly. Don't try to have casual arguments with me just because it will help you to confirm your opinion about our dispute. Most harems have an obvious pairing right from the start and in some of them you can tell from the start that the MC loves the main girl. It's still a harem, whatever you think about it. And no, Toradora is not a harem, because 3 girls is still not enough for a harem. This is a legitimate reason to hate the character. Dislike for the show because of this is already secondary. Your response is literally "Just trust me bro", so there is clearly no point in having a discussion with you. Have a nice day. Well, if you deliberately took only one part of the text in order to use it to escape from an uncomfortable conversation for you, then yes. I advise you to look more at the classic harems of the 00s to understand that the classic formula is not as dogmatic as you think. For example, Ai Yori Aoshi. Have a nice day. |
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| Kazuya IS a horrible character. But my main blame goes to Reiji for being a horrible person overall. A better person would reward Kazuya's efforts (with REAL sex. Not with Chizuru, per say; but with another woman. Just to have him stop acting like a retarded virgin). Reiji is married and has a son. There's no excuse for what he's doing. But his franchise is popular and he's making money. So it's not gonna disappear at any time soon. Still. A dumpster fire is a dumpster fire. And his job is already done when he catches your attention. Let's just call it for what it is and move on to better things. |
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RobertBobert said: Yes, yes, I understand that we are all annoyed by the MC in this anime. But beyond that, is it really a bad show? The main criticism for this show is focusing so heavily on annoying incel MCs and generic stuff like the classic harem dislike that sometimes I feel like this show gets so much salt and criticism most of the time just because of the annoying MC and not the most popular genre in our time. As someone that's writing a similar story, I feel like it's just a concept that needs some more finesse for people to appreciate. An unlikeable MC in this kind of story is just asking for trouble since not only does the story revolve around him but the concept does as well (of renting girlfriends) It's the execution that matters and no matter how good the concept, it'll all fall flat on its face if not done properly. |
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whitebagelxyz said: People are just sick of shitty harem shows in general. The fact that Kazuya is a terrible simp harem MC exacerbated the general disgust people have on this genre. Like, the main reason people hate shitty harem shows is because most of those shows the dynamic makes very little sense and often times there is very little reason why the girls need to be in love with the MC. Unfortunately, they are generally stuck in an absolute Stockholm situation because these shows usually do not have another normal human male character that isn't a dumbass comic relief with no interest in any of the girls, so the MC can just take his sweet time to choose and pick them like he is in a candy shop that has been locked from the outside. Putting Kazuya in that kind of carrot on a stick show enhance the dissonance even further and made people truly realize "man, this is some real shitty ass dumpster fire show that makes no sense, even though I cannot stop watching it for some reason". Is this a classic harem show just like all the ones before it? Yes. Is Kazuya a trash character? Also yes. So why is that a problem? Because for shitty harem shows, the MC is the lowest common denominator, and he defines how low the bar is for the show. Or, here, let's just do a little fun thinking experiment. Imagine if everything in The Quintessential Quintuplets stays exactly the same, except for the MC is an ugly fat talentless bastard who steals money from grandma who has cancer and beats little kids for fun, but the girls are all still hopelessly in love with him for some reason. The show suddenly seems like an utter trash now doesn't it? Because the male MC defines how low the bar goes for the show, and him being a terrible human being, but still being loved by all the girls in the show, creates a huge cognitive dissonance to your brain that you cannot help but feel disgusted about why does this show even exists. Oh, complaints about a non-existent overabundance of harem anime. How I missed them. |
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RobertBobert said: you see, this type of romcom was popular in the pastYes, yes, I understand that we are all annoyed by the MC in this anime. But beyond that, is it really a bad show? The main criticism for this show is focusing so heavily on annoying incel MCs and generic stuff like the classic harem dislike that sometimes I feel like this show gets so much salt and criticism most of the time just because of the annoying MC and not the most popular genre in our time. But nowadays people don't like this kind of old-fashioned shows anymore |
mshfqtny said: RobertBobert said: you see, this type of romcom was popular in the pastYes, yes, I understand that we are all annoyed by the MC in this anime. But beyond that, is it really a bad show? The main criticism for this show is focusing so heavily on annoying incel MCs and generic stuff like the classic harem dislike that sometimes I feel like this show gets so much salt and criticism most of the time just because of the annoying MC and not the most popular genre in our time. But nowadays people don't like this kind of old-fashioned shows anymore What type? Pure harems where a group of beautiful girls hang around a terrible loser? |
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Its so bad that its good, plus it provides us with a shit ton of memes😏 |
| I... I think I already commented on this but I'm not bothered to search if I did. No, this show isn't as bad as people say, specially the earlier chapters (which the second season is still going through). People just like to shit on shows that people shit on a lot, it's like a bandwagon because even people that haven't touched the series say it is trash. Aside from the MC being a simp that masturbates a lot (funny that a lot of weebs complaint about that lol) it isn't really a bad show unless we talk about more recently in the manga. |
RobertBobert said: yeah (character limit)mshfqtny said: you see, this type of romcom was popular in the past But nowadays people don't like this kind of old-fashioned shows anymore What type? Pure harems where a group of beautiful girls hang around a terrible loser? |
| To me the MC reminds me of harem' MC from 2008 anime series, that's why a lot of ppl are reassembling the show as harem, though the classing harem consists of pantsu shots and bobas but the only thing we got here is nut bursting episode. The show is sort of cliche but with its own unique things (like the main point of renting) comparing to the romance shows in the past years. Though I think that's because of mami who makes this show shine, but a lot of people hate her ─ that's the most confusing thing to me. |
E2sembler said: To me the MC reminds me of harem' MC from 2008 anime series, that's why a lot of ppl are reassembling the show as harem, though the classing harem consists of pantsu shots and bobas but the only thing we got here is nut bursting episode. The show is sort of cliche but with its own unique things (like the main point of renting) comparing to the romance shows in the past years. Though I think that's because of mami who makes this show shine, but a lot of people hate her ─ that's the most confusing thing to me. Not necessarily, Clannad and Kanon managed without it. |
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RobertBobert said: Yes, yes, I understand that we are all annoyed by the MC in this anime. But beyond that, is it really a bad show? The main criticism for this show is focusing so heavily on annoying incel MCs and generic stuff like the classic harem dislike that sometimes I feel like this show gets so much salt and criticism most of the time just because of the annoying MC and not the most popular genre in our time. No it's not that bad. There are definitely worse shows. The rental girlfriend part is unique and all right. |
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| Actually most fans like the show and are looking forward to it quite a bit. The story is decent with the "rent a girlfriend" quirk spicing it up. My gripe with the show is that, not just the MC, but all of the characters are unappealing. I don't like their personalities, how relatable they are, BECAUSE of the the cringe factor. I preferred character based shows, so this is quite painful for me, but at least their design is the one appealing thing they got going for them. |
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| Visiting this forum after new chapter and 4th fking season release makes me realize this show didn't get enough hate |
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