Are hardcore anime fans who don't learn Japanese just lazy or stupid?

Eh, It just means they're not curious enough about the Japanese language to try learning it. Learning languages is hard. So most people won't bother if they A) Don't find the act of learning a language fun and mentally enriching, and B) Don't have a practical use case for that language.

On one hand, translation requires some level of interpretation. On the other hand, there is a difference between translating something like
”質問を変えます”as “Kill me now” versus translating it as “Let me rephrase the question”.

@DreamingBeats
Maybe you haven't seen the wrost of mistranslations. It can go as far as

"The author wrote these boys are close friends. I interpret that as a homosexual relationship and I will make both these characters gay in the translation"

I wish that was nothing more than an exaggerated joke. If you want I could even provide real examples. And on top of that you have assholes who have the gall to say "there's no such thing as accurate translation"

LMFAO

Ok professor "Motherfucker", lets see you correctly translate this shit in the context of a moral concern.... "それは大丈夫？"

Since you seem to know the correct way to translate shit. lol

I will even make it easier for you, just use it as a neutral phrase too. lol

Oh look, the expert linguist is back with another masterclass in keyboard smashing. The one who claims translations aren't "subjective interpretations". If incoherent gibberish is your idea of debate... Congratulations, you’re winning the participation award for ‘Most Pointless Posts’. lol

This Asshole obviously doesn't know shit. Gave them a simple phrase commonly used in Anime and they didn't even bother to even try to translate it. lol

The only use Japanese is if there exists anime without subs which means there is no interest in it outside of Japan.

And? What is literally the point, unless you plan to use it by working over in Japan or regularly visiting the country? Learning a language solely to consume more of it's pop culture seems like a greater waste of time. If I am going to spend time learning a language, it would be something that could actually benefit my job like French (honestly I should pick it up again). I have literally no use for Japanese, beyond oh I can get the exact meaning, in the pop culture I occasionally consume, which I don't frankly care as much about as some fans.

I mean you could literally argue, if are spending all the time watching anime, why don't you learn how to animate and draw instead? I mean, hey...that is something I picked up a year and half ago, and yeah a lot of time I used to use watching anime has gone to that. You could argue that using your time to engage in media consumption hobbies is a "waste" or doing anything recreational that doesn't ensure more money is coming in is a "waste".

People have different things they value. I get a good enough experiance, just watching subbed anime. If I had infinite time on this earth, you know what sure...I like learning new things, however, I don't' and I got to make a judgment call. I already have hobbies, that require brain power, I don't need anime to become that too.

Your argument makes no sense, because I would never animate or draw anything even if I knew how.

@Lucifrost Yes I mocking an argument that doesn't make sense lol. Also I guess good for you? IDK I think most artists like to draw and animate, you would be a rare case.

@BilboBaggins365
My point was that I'm not an artist, and that becoming one has no bearing on my ability to look at drawings. Unlike learning a language in order to be able to watch things in that language and understand them, which has a basis in logic.

Yes however, you can just create your own....which is even better than consuming other's art. Learning Japanese just to watch anime, is just an improvement of what you are able to do. So in this case, enjoying art, is improved by being able to make your own stuff.

You can understand them, understand them enough......your logic also has no basis, and would only make sense if anime wasn't translated to any degree.

No it isn't.


Lots of anime and their source material are never translated. You know that.