How Old is the MC?

Feb 1, 7:58 PM

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By the end of the season, exactly how old is Ars? Other characters keep referring to him as a kid when they first meet him. They haven’t made him too much taller and he still looks like a boy. Rosell is supposed to be a year younger than him but still looks like an infant. Licia also looks like a little girl by the end of the season as well. I get that back in the day people got engaged and married much younger, but the age they look seems way too young. I have nothing to back this up, but I thought he might have been 11 or 12 by the season’s end. Does anyone know his actual age at this point in the story?

Feb 1, 9:24 PM

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I don't know.‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎

Feb 1, 9:27 PM

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It is really funny when people make a thread over a topic that could be literally answered with a single Google search...

Feb 2, 2:19 AM

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this is simply a case where it being an isekai hurts the story and it literally does nothing with the consept
its an isekai for the sake of being an isekai which is making money
like bro was 30 years old previously yet he acts like a child the whole time its so stupid
examples where the isekai genre is done fantasticly are konosuba that time i got reincarnated as a slime and the greatest estate developer

Feb 2, 5:43 AM

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Doesn't take much to look up. I think people really don't understand how different standards were for "back in the day". With anime generally romanticizing living in the medieval ages unless they take the route of being a medieval fantasy setting coming from mmo rpg games with an adventure's guild. My source

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Feb 2, 11:31 AM

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For the age I don't know but what do you mean back in the days ?

There were mages back in the days ?

Why fantasy should be consistent with reality ?

Anyway I did have seen quite a lot of children couples IRL when I was a kid so why couldn't these two be a couple as well?

Feb 2, 5:30 PM

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DragyG said:
For the age I don't know but what do you mean back in the days ?

There were mages back in the days ?

Why fantasy should be consistent with reality ?

Anyway I did have seen quite a lot of children couples IRL when I was a kid so why couldn't these two be a couple as well?

You’ve seen children become engaged to each other…?

Feb 2, 7:04 PM

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You're going to learn something new today. His post is not surprising.

If you want to read the rest of it

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Feb 2, 9:42 PM

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ArthurBedlam said:

You’ve seen children become engaged to each other…?

I DID have seen children propose to each other, yes.

Feb 3, 6:33 AM

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My unsolicited take on it.

DragyG said:

Why fantasy should be consistent with reality?

Well I don't think people are asking for the setting of fantasy to be the exact same from history. For me I just view fantasy through the context of history. Since fantasy animes do take aspects of how the way of life was for medieval times of history but with a twist. Or they take up the game way mmo rpg for the setting. We can only reference an imaginary world created in anime from humanity's own past to create the basis of understanding the world that the anime is showing us.

DragyG said:

Anyway I did have seen quite a lot of children couples IRL when I was a kid so why couldn't these two be a couple as well?

Speaking from someone from the West (USA/Western Europe) I see people talk about anime topics like arranged marriages and aren't a fan of it because the standards of the West in modern times is to have both partners agreeing together without a third-party (family, friends) pressuring them to be in a relationship for outside factors. Its also in addition to "how can you force children to be engaged when they aren't even an adult to fully grasp what is happening." sentiment that comes from that view of morality.

So most people of the west conflate their morality with the worlds of fantasy anime that gives them the "I don't like this" on certain aspects of fantasy animes.

LientalFeb 3, 6:39 AM

Feb 3, 12:48 PM

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Liental said:
My unsolicited take on it.

DragyG said:

Why fantasy should be consistent with reality?

DragyG said:

Anyway I did have seen quite a lot of children couples IRL when I was a kid so why couldn't these two be a couple as well?

For the first part I'm not going to dismiss it since yes storytelling is based on preconceptions and supposed common knowledge between the teller and the public. However I'd argue that there is a limit to draw between what the preconceptions required are and things that are novelty or willingly in strike of common conceptions and knowledge. Such a limit would determine the room allocated to creativity in a media work. Indeed you could set a story in a world based on medieval society which would then require knights, lords, peasants, etc but there wouldn't be any issue for it to be in a far future with flying cars. Same reversed we could have a story set in jurassic era but with now tools and science. This allows to make stories set in some historical context and atmosphere and still do stuffs that would seem incoherent if it was reality.

About the second part I'm from Belgium (the country hosting EU's capital city) so quite a European and if I'm definitely not OK with adults forcing children to marry I've nothing against children proposing to each other if they are doing it freely (this doesn't mean I think children should get married) and in the case of this anime Licia's family played more as facilitators than forcing her to marry.

I do think the reading of such content depends on whether fiction should be morally illustrative or exploratory. I stand for the later but both are valid standpoints.

Feb 3, 3:06 PM

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Okay okay, I’m sorry. I forgot google existed when I posted this. I didn’t mean to push anyone’s buttons.
The reason I mentioned “back in the day” was because often, when discussing child marriage in anime, people’s first response is to lecture about just how young people would get married throughout history. It was more of a question about his age and not about it in relation to him getting married. I thought he might have been 11 or 12, but he looks 7.

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Feb 3, 7:19 PM

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To elaborate more although I'm in agreement with you. I'm not rigid for series like isekais/fantasy to be 1:1 of actual medieval times. But I just generally use historical context to explain to myself the "why" portion of culture in fantasy anime. Whether it be political/arranged marriages in fantasy shows dealing with aristocrat nobility, explaining the discrimination of either race or social class in the society the anime is presenting, or slavery being a part of the social norm of its world in fantasy anime. Though I do appreciate the realism of it in series like "Vinland Saga" if it does try to be.

I liked "Maou 2099" being a story of a demon lord being isekai'd to the futuristic modern age.

DragyG said:

Same reversed we could have a story set in jurassic era but with now tools and science.

You just described "Dr. Stone" in a nutshell lol.

For me on arranged marriages, I don't really care for it in anime since its fiction. No one real is experiencing this as I am watching a show. For real life I do share the opinion of not being a fan of arranged marriages with partners being put in that position by family doing it over religious or social beliefs. Say for example if you were christian your family would want you to get engaged with a christian partner. By the most part of parents being the sole facilitators and decision makers of who gets to be around their child and decide who gets their blessing like Licia got her fathers blessing. Not saying all arranged marriages is all bad. Since there's the dynamic of family vetting the partner to see if they are compatible for their child with Licia's father vetting Ars for a marriage.

I stand on fiction being exploratory because exploring explicit topics in their worlds being imperfect, grounds its setting into feeling real. Being imperfect worlds such as ours that you can be immersed in. That's why I like the settings of Re:Zero, Mushouku Tensei, Fullmetal Alchemist, Ranking of Kings, Frieren. Than standard isekai stories that don't go beyond the status quota when telling their stories.

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