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Sep 30, 2016 10:40 AM

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coromandel said:
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Rip Corrupted Purity, nice music in the post, makes me regret never playing past FFVI.
Whys everyone voting Kota anyway?

Why do you think there was just 1 nightkill?

Isnt there always 1 nightkill?
I mean I know Lupadim said he wanted to use his power but he didnt have enough xp apperantly
I've been here way too long...
Sep 30, 2016 10:43 AM

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TheConquerer said:
Rip Corrupted Purity, nice music in the post, makes me regret never playing past FFVI.
Whys everyone voting Kota anyway?

What you mean everyone?

It is just me and Coromandel.
Sep 30, 2016 10:44 AM

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coromandel said:
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And a question in general: Since Kota was roleblocked, how does the killing for mafia work anyway? Is it just one person targeting someone? And if yes, did you see him getting roleblocked, @coromandel? I dont really get how people get caught as mafia unless they work alone.

How it works:
- The mafia discusses who they want to kill at night
- One of them has to actually make the kill = visit the victim

If the killer is roleblocked, his action fails => no kill.

I'm pretty sure my action was successful, because I doubt I was roleblocked myself - mafia would see it as a waste (since I'm just a Miller).


There was only 1 kill last night, so it means one of two things:
1] a killer was blocked
2] a target was protected


I believe that you bought the potion since I believe that you're town now. Did you foreshadow that they would send kota? Or was it just pure luck? It could also mean kota is a SK, BUUT I think mafia wouldnt be that stupid to kill CP that early. So I'm tending to that he is scum. I still want to see what he has to say tho.
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Sep 30, 2016 10:51 AM

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Togs said:
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By the way, Suzune, I recently received some information that makes you very suspicious.

Turns out someone has a role that looks a lot like yours. It allows them to leave during the night thus making them invincible, and it's a two-shot.

You have something very similar except for it activates on all even nights.

Thats my role : P I held off claiming last Night so that I could soak up a kill. And that's how I know Suzune is definitely lying.

vote: Suzune

Interesting.

I think Togs is telling the truth because he is counterclaiming, but I guess I would see what Suzune would say.

coromandel said:
Or 3] it could mean someone like a Hider/Commuter was targeted.
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Or 3] it could mean someone like a Hider/Commuter was targeted.

Doubt it, except... Togs commutes?
Sep 30, 2016 10:54 AM

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_Claire_ said:
TheConquerer said:
Rip Corrupted Purity, nice music in the post, makes me regret never playing past FFVI.
Whys everyone voting Kota anyway?

What you mean everyone?

It is just me and Coromandel.

Realized that after I sent it but figured there was still a point asking why Kota was being voted on
I've been here way too long...
Sep 30, 2016 11:08 AM

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TheConquerer said:
coromandel said:

Why do you think there was just 1 nightkill?

Isnt there always 1 nightkill?
I mean I know Lupadim said he wanted to use his power but he didnt have enough xp apperantly

Night 1 there was 1 kill.
Night 2 = 3 kills, and it turned out Denja was targeted during N1.

Which means we probably have mafia + a Serial Killer.

And now during N3 there's only 1 kill.


TheConquerer said:
_Claire_ said:

What you mean everyone?

It is just me and Coromandel.

Realized that after I sent it but figured there was still a point asking why Kota was being voted on

I figured pressuring him might not be a bad idea.
I used the Paralyze Potion on him last night, and that may have been the reason why there was only 1 kill.

Sep 30, 2016 11:14 AM

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Gwendolly said:
coromandel said:

How it works:
- The mafia discusses who they want to kill at night
- One of them has to actually make the kill = visit the victim

If the killer is roleblocked, his action fails => no kill.

I'm pretty sure my action was successful, because I doubt I was roleblocked myself - mafia would see it as a waste (since I'm just a Miller).


There was only 1 kill last night, so it means one of two things:
1] a killer was blocked
2] a target was protected


I believe that you bought the potion since I believe that you're town now. Did you foreshadow that they would send kota? Or was it just pure luck? It could also mean kota is a SK, BUUT I think mafia wouldnt be that stupid to kill CP that early. So I'm tending to that he is scum. I still want to see what he has to say tho.

I made a list with players who might be mafia - based on how Holocaster voted, and who voted for him.
So I had a bunch of players I suspected, and picked out the least suspicious one, because the mafia usually sends a player who they think won't be blocked/watched.

It's possible he didn't actually try to kill anyone, but it's a lead.


What do you think of the accusations against Suzune-chan?

Sep 30, 2016 11:24 AM

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Ok full claim I am Golbez, Man in Black. I have 2 shots of "teleportation" which makes me untargetable for a Night and I used one last Night, which is why I think there was only 1 kill. I instantly knew Suzune was lying, since she is counterclaimed BOTH by me having her role and Lamby seeing her action.
Sep 30, 2016 11:41 AM

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I guess we aren't going to lynch coromondel any time soon : D .
Sep 30, 2016 11:44 AM

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coromandel said:
Gwendolly said:


I believe that you bought the potion since I believe that you're town now. Did you foreshadow that they would send kota? Or was it just pure luck? It could also mean kota is a SK, BUUT I think mafia wouldnt be that stupid to kill CP that early. So I'm tending to that he is scum. I still want to see what he has to say tho.

I made a list with players who might be mafia - based on how Holocaster voted, and who voted for him.
So I had a bunch of players I suspected, and picked out the least suspicious one, because the mafia usually sends a player who they think won't be blocked/watched.

It's possible he didn't actually try to kill anyone, but it's a lead.


What do you think of the accusations against Suzune-chan?

Looking at Togs claim, I am doubtful of his Golbez. A FFIV character right?
Nonplayable right?
Playable only in After Years.

Oh well..
But lupadim supports his claim.
Hmm..
Sep 30, 2016 11:45 AM

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ZombieWolf2508 said:
_Claire_ said:

Did it says that you got sick from visitng Suzune?


As I returned from watching suzune I caught an illness. Dunno if random, someone's ability, an item, or something from Suzune.


Hehehe you are dying now. Don't visit him or you will be poisoned too.
Sep 30, 2016 11:48 AM

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TheConquerer said:

I mean I know Lupadim said he wanted to use his power but he didnt have enough xp apperantly


Or his target got healed, and he is lying now. We need to ask him to kill Claire to confirm that he has the killing ability (not me, but claire).
Sep 30, 2016 11:48 AM

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💎 Vote Count 4.2💎

💎 KOtA (2)💎 | |💎 coromandel , _Claire_💎
💎 Suzune-chan (1)💎 | |💎 Togs 💎


💎 Not Voting 💎:| | 💎 Tingle, Gwendolly, ,Suzune-chan, ,Karote, KOtA, ,TheConquerer,SightlessReality, Lord_Sithis , Lamby, Lupadim,grrr ,ZombieWolf2508 💎


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Sep 30, 2016 11:51 AM

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coromandel said:
I bought the Paralyze Potion tonight + used it on KOtA.


NOT MAFIA
CorruptedPurity
Togs - voted for Holo during D1 and D3.
Karote - Holo voted for him during D2, Karote voted for Holo during D3.
Tingle - voted for Holo during D3.
Zombiewolf - I doubt mafia buddy zombie would tell everyone Holo visited me an hour before phase change. His claim seems genuine to me, especially since he kept asking Holo about his night action throughout the day.


NOT MAFIA ?
_Claire_ -> voted for reiynii during day 1. But often disagreed with Holo, pointed out that he was being scummy, and defended me against his accusations. Holo voted for Claire during day 2. All in all, I don't think Claire is mafia.
Lamby - voted for Holo during D3. Not 100% sure, could be opportunistic scum buddy.
Lord_Sithis - voted for Holo during D3. ^ same here. ^


MAFIA ? - Based on PoE [Process of Elimination], the mafia is most likely hiding here:
  1. Suzune-chan
  2. KOtA
  3. Gwendolly
  4. Grrr
  5. SightlessReality -> Holo often mentioned he suspects Sightless. But he never actually voted for him, so I'm not town-reading Sightless based Holo's posts.
  6. Lupadim
  7. TheConquerer -> Null read. Just because Holo was lynched instead of him doesn't mean he's town.
I suspect 1-5 the most. ^

I mostly agree with this, except for a couple things my list is more or less the same. Suzune will flip either sk or scum I think. After that we should lynch/kill through {Kota, Grr, Sightless}. I feel like there's probably 2 scum in those people but it could be 1 or even all 3. Outside of these people I think Lord_Sithis or Tingle could possibly be deep scum ?
Sep 30, 2016 11:51 AM

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I guess it is time for Suzune to go. She killed so many of us :(.

Vote: Suzune

Sep 30, 2016 11:52 AM

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grrr said:
TheConquerer said:

I mean I know Lupadim said he wanted to use his power but he didnt have enough xp apperantly


Or his target got healed, and he is lying now. We need to ask him to kill Claire to confirm that he has the killing ability (not me, but claire).
No such thing, as I said my kill is a strongarm meaning no way to avoid it
Sep 30, 2016 11:55 AM

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Either way, considering how crazy most roles are here I highly doubt the host would place two similar roles such as Suzune's and Togg's. Guess I might as well reveal my passive: It reveals the ability of one player every night ,this means I know as a matter of fact Togg is not lying about his ability.

Vote: Suzune-chan

As for whoever asked me how much XP I have currently, I'd rather not tell, only the mafia gets an advantage out of this. I could already have enough or it could take me one more night to gather enough, maybe two or even three.
Sep 30, 2016 11:56 AM

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lupadim said:
No such thing, as I said my kill is a strongarm meaning no way to avoid it


I find it funny that people consider you mafia when you try your best to cooperate : D .

MAFIA ? - Based on PoE [Process of Elimination], the mafia is most likely hiding here:[list=1][*] Suzune-chan
[*] KOtA
[*] Gwendolly
[*] Grrr
[*] SightlessReality -> Holo often mentioned he suspects Sightless. But he never actually voted for him, so I'm not town-reading Sightless based Holo's posts.
[*] Lupadim
[*] TheConquerer -> Null read.[/quote]
Sep 30, 2016 12:01 PM

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I wouldnt be online much for these two days so I will place my vote here:

Vote: Suzune

I will try to check before phase change to see if there is such thing that prompts me to change my vote, but otherwise I will probably just stay on the vote.
Sep 30, 2016 12:02 PM

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^ Also another thing is, Togs' character is shady as hell, like Suzune's.
Sep 30, 2016 12:05 PM

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_Claire_ said:
^ Also another thing is, Togs' character is shady as hell, like Suzune's.
Literally he is covered in shade 8)
Sep 30, 2016 12:16 PM

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ZombieWolf2508 said:
_Claire_ said:

Did it says that you got sick from visitng Suzune?


As I returned from watching suzune I caught an illness. Dunno if random, someone's ability, an item, or something from Suzune.
was not me, I'm not passive. I mean I suppose a commuter is kind of passive but I have no secondary ability.

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Sep 30, 2016 12:17 PM

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Gwendolly said:
And a question in general: Since Kota was roleblocked, how does the killing for mafia work anyway? Is it just one person targeting someone? And if yes, did you see him getting roleblocked, @coromandel? I dont really get how people get caught as mafia unless they work alone.
They could be caught by association too. Sometimes mafia members do not talk to one another, or act weird around each other.

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Sep 30, 2016 12:22 PM

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Gwendolly said:
ZombieWolf2508 said:


As I returned from watching suzune I caught an illness. Dunno if random, someone's ability, an item, or something from Suzune.


Did the message say exactly that?


That's basically literally what it said
Sep 30, 2016 12:24 PM

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lupadim said:
By the way, Suzune, I recently received some information that makes you very suspicious.

Turns out someone has a role that looks a lot like yours. It allows them to leave during the night thus making them invincible, and it's a two-shot.

You have something very similar except for it activates on all even nights.
well fancy that. I honestly have nothing interesting to tell you about it. All I can tell you is what my role pm says. While it would be great if you believed it, I would like to hope I could be helpful enough that it would never come to claiming.

coromandel said:
Lupadim says he's Yuna. He doesn't seem trustworthy based on day interactions, but Yuna is a town character I expect to be in the game.
Suzune is apparently Larsa. Which is, if I remember correctly, more of a side character.

I'm wondering why you claimed at all @Suzune-chan. You gave in rather quickly.
Not sure whether I should trust you after Zombie got sick, + apparently you shot someone during N2.

And wen's role was covered up - I'm wondering if whoever used the item on him learned his role? The Veil Potion sounds like a Janitor shot, and Janitors cover up + find out their victims' role. So all in all I'm not sure I believe these claims. They came out of nowhere, too.
well, it is rather complicated. I was first going to tell him to shove off and just ignore the banter. But the chips got stacked against me because what if the other person did return? What if lupa was telling the truth. On the sliding scale of dangerous roles, mine is annoying but not threatening and if I made it through the night I would be gone next night so, there was little risk I hoped. Was it kind of silly? In hindsight yeah. But I guess I lived to today and I will live through tonight so, I cannot complain. I cannot shoot someone when I am not around in the evening. As far as thet whole thing goes I have no answers for why you saw it was me.

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Sep 30, 2016 12:26 PM

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Togs said:
lupadim said:
By the way, Suzune, I recently received some information that makes you very suspicious.

Turns out someone has a role that looks a lot like yours. It allows them to leave during the night thus making them invincible, and it's a two-shot.

You have something very similar except for it activates on all even nights.

Thats my role : P I held off claiming last Night so that I could soak up a kill. And that's how I know Suzune is definitely lying.

vote: Suzune
you know your need to be against me is astounding. Regardless, I do not know what to say. I know what my role is. I felt like I should also respond to you but I have no new information to apply to you.

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Sep 30, 2016 12:26 PM

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💎 Vote Count 4.3💎

💎 Suzune-chan (4)💎 | |💎 Togs, grrr , lupadim, _Claire_ 💎
💎 KOtA (1)💎 | |💎 coromandel 💎

💎 Not Voting 💎:| | 💎 Tingle, Gwendolly, ,Suzune-chan, ,Karote, KOtA, ,TheConquerer,SightlessReality, Lord_Sithis , Lamby, ZombieWolf2508 💎


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Sep 30, 2016 12:28 PM

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Suzune-chan said:
Togs said:

Thats my role : P I held off claiming last Night so that I could soak up a kill. And that's how I know Suzune is definitely lying.

vote: Suzune
you know your need to be against me is astounding. Regardless, I do not know what to say. I know what my role is. I felt like I should also respond to you but I have no new information to apply to you.

You're not calling my role into question ? After all do you honestly think that our roles could co exist ? Because I do not. You don't have an answer for my role and you don't have an answer for Lamby's investigation, I am sorry my friend but you are mechanically caught.
Sep 30, 2016 12:33 PM

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Togs said:
Suzune-chan said:
you know your need to be against me is astounding. Regardless, I do not know what to say. I know what my role is. I felt like I should also respond to you but I have no new information to apply to you.

You're not calling my role into question ? After all do you honestly think that our roles could co exist ? Because I do not. You don't have an answer for my role and you don't have an answer for Lamby's investigation, I am sorry my friend but you are mechanically caught.
I once thought there was no way the town had both a neighborhood and two sets of Masons but it did. So nothing surprises me anymore. Trying to figure out a closed set up is a waste of time. It is possible if the threat to the town is high or there are a lot of potential killing roles in place.

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Sep 30, 2016 12:35 PM

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[quote=Suzune-chan message=47973550]
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I cannot shoot someone when I am not around in the evening.

We have no way to confirm that, and even if someone has a way to confirm it, I would prefer it if he keep it for himself.

I really don't like it when non-game mechanics are introduced in the game.
Sep 30, 2016 12:36 PM

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^ The quote is displayed correctly on my PC.
Sep 30, 2016 12:37 PM

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Gee what non game mechanics are we talking about?

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Sep 30, 2016 12:39 PM

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Suzune-chan said:
Gee what non game mechanics are we talking about?
Good job phone make thet more complicated. That should be directed at grr

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Sep 30, 2016 12:40 PM

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Suzune-chan said:
Togs said:

You're not calling my role into question ? After all do you honestly think that our roles could co exist ? Because I do not. You don't have an answer for my role and you don't have an answer for Lamby's investigation, I am sorry my friend but you are mechanically caught.
I once thought there was no way the town had both a neighborhood and two sets of Masons but it did. So nothing surprises me anymore. Trying to figure out a closed set up is a waste of time. It is possible if the threat to the town is high or there are a lot of potential killing roles in place.

It's not outside the conceivable thoughts of man that our roles could be some kind of modgaming trap (I heavily doubt it though). But then, what do you say about Lamby seeing you kill ? And on top of that, Zombiewolf getting poisoned for targeting you ? You have been playing a good game I think but there's a mountain of mechanical evidence here that you simply cannot talk your way out of.

You should probably claim your limit break though. I don't think you'll get to use it anyways : V
Sep 30, 2016 12:42 PM

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Oh did you mean your ability when you said " I am not around in the evening.". I thought you were claiming being offline which is actually wrong since you were online. Okay you dodged that.

Question:
Have you lied to us at least once this game Suzune, before this post?

Yes/No ?
Sep 30, 2016 12:44 PM

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Vote Lynch Suzune

What sort of plague did I catch from you?
Sep 30, 2016 12:46 PM

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Mod update : I unfortunately made a mistake in forgetting about giving the exp and gils repectively for the quest system after double checkin. It will be given shortly. Again, sorry about that, as i'm still sick there would be things that im missing, and would like to ask for forgiveness for the mistake. Prizes for quest system will be given

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Sep 30, 2016 12:47 PM

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I dont want to vote in what is clearly turning out to be a lynch train but at the same time I really doubt two characters are gonna have such similiar abilities so someone is probably lying...
I've been here way too long...
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grrr said:
Oh did you mean your ability when you said " I am not around in the evening.". I thought you were claiming being offline which is actually wrong since you were online. Okay you dodged that.

Question:
Have you lied to us at least once this game Suzune, before this post?

Yes/No ?
Sure.

I meant literally my character could not be there to do an action. Not myself personally. Since clearly I posted in the nighttime.

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I dont want to vote in what is clearly turning out to be a lynch train but at the same time I really doubt two characters are gonna have such similiar abilities so someone is probably lying...

Excellent deduction my friend. Now who do you think is lying, the Towny Togs or the Scummy Suzune ?
Sep 30, 2016 12:53 PM

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Towny said:
The Towny Togs or the Scummy Suzune ?

Checkmate.
Sep 30, 2016 12:56 PM

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I'll be frank, what annoys me most is that the message makes it looked like I make whoever sick. I mean, goodness that is super unfair. As if I did not have enough troubles without that to be added on to the pile. So annoying...

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Haha, I'm super amazed at the reaction to lying. Haha. Lying is not inherently scummy and playing lynxh all liars is a dangerous game.

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Sep 30, 2016 12:59 PM

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I really don't know what to do, everyone pretty much decided on Suzune.
Sep 30, 2016 12:59 PM

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Aight, let's make another train.

Vote: K0ta
Sep 30, 2016 1:00 PM

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I really don't know what to do, everyone pretty much decided on Suzune.
I will just smile at the end because everyone thinks it is me. Well I will make some final stand posts then when I get home.

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@Tingle,

Come out ;)
what do you think about that train on Suzune? justified enough?
Sep 30, 2016 1:25 PM

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Quick read list.

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So what says you Karote. Am I scum?

vote: Kota I have honestly never thought about you as scum before because you have been quiet but I will vote in self preservation until it is easier for me to read you.

Edit- used vote tags instead of bold.

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No, let's NOT make a new train. This train is pretty solid and Suzune's reaction was terrible, instead of defending herself she criticized us for using "non-game mechanics" which is not exactly valid since realizing that it is unlikely for two roles to be the same in a role madness game is part of the mechanics, if you are going to fake claim you need to make it believable.

Even if this is a wrong lynch, there's just way too much evidence on Suzune to ignore her.

- claims a role that seems to be a clone of someone else's role
- was seen killing by someone here
- someone that visited her got a disease
- voting in self preservation while ignoring the fact her role is not all that helpful for the town, it is a role that only offers benefits for Suzune herself (self preservation/survival) and not for the town as a group
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