coromandel said:I actually prepared a case against him I wanted to post before phase change but forgot. x3
Here it is:
Why Tingle/Togs could be mafia [1]
The last few minutes from day 2 are interesting:
Claire: "I think its much better to get Gwen, and focus on Karote/Holo next day phase."
https://xss.now.cc/forum/?topicid=1555461&show=600#msg47935930
Holocaster had the most votes before phase change - it was hard to say who'd be lynched in the end.
What I missed the first time I re-read was what Tingle tried to do:
Holo had 4 votes and was leading, but then wen changed his vote. Holo and Karote now both had 3 votes.
Tingle then voted for Karote! But shortly before she made her post, wen had changed his vote once again, back to Holo.
Tingle unvoted.
In the end, the day ended in a tie and no one was lynched (I'm assuming it was the Vote Freezer's doing).
But Tingle might have tried to save Holo there.
[2]
In this post, Tingle was kind of defending Suzune.
https://xss.now.cc/forum/?topicid=1555461&show=1550#msg47983601
"The train on Suzune is justified, although there are some things I'm kinda iffy about. I don't believe two scum would work together to frame a player like that, making themselves vulnerable like that.
If Suzune is third party, it would clear there name. If Suzune is mafia, it would clear their name. But if Suzune is town, it would raise some high suspiscion and they're most likely dead.
If this lynch goes through and Suzune turns out to be third party, I don't want us to completely defied our eyes from Lupa and Togs. If Suzune is mafia I don't want us to completely forget about them either. As this is a crazy setup, and I migth be reading too much into it, but it could be three scum setting this up to clear their own names. I don't suspect this tactic to be a thing tho, unless performed by a mad man.
That Zombie fell sick after visiting is just a littlebit too convenient in my eyes. Which confirms even more to me that this might be a setup. I am not saying that Zombie is one of the masterminds behind that setup tho. "
[3]
This is probably a pretty worthless piece of info but during the soundtrack quest, Tingle, Claire and Holo all voted for the same song. >.>
[4]
Togs: "vote: Grrr
I feel better about lynching him than Kota since Kota's wagon had the makings of a counterwagon to Suzune."
https://xss.now.cc/forum/?topicid=1555461&show=1900#msg48017259
After Togs replaced in, he started to defend Claire and even though he agreed KOtA was scummy, he definitely tried to push Grrr's tynch instead.
[5]
What's even more suspicious is how he constantly defended Rinto/Claire - his main argument was that Claire's reaction after his lynch seemed genuine. But did he really believe she's town based on JUST this one reaction?
He literally posted 3 links to Claire's posts, and that was the basis for his whole town read:
https://xss.now.cc/forum/?topicid=1555461&show=2100#msg48039478
Those 3 posts apparently were so brilliant that they made him brush aside all the hard evidence suggesting Claire's mafia . . .
Like her constantly being on opposite trains when scum was lynched. This kind of behavior weighs so much more than just a few posts someone makes after a townie's death. Scum can write whatever they want after a lynch, but when they vote, that's when they show their true colors.
"I don't know I've seen a lot of post-mislynch reactions in my time and I've never seen a scum who could fake something like that. Normally I would be voting Claire for the contradiction but.. I feel like all the town is lying to each other this game. -_- I mean you even said above that you fake claimed roleblocker ? I feel like if Rinto was scum too his team would fill him in on what he claimed like Suzune felt to me like she planned out her fakeclaim at length and she seems like someone who would keep the scum chat active, if Claire decided to fakeclaim surely there must be signs in the chat somewhere and Rinto would figure it out.
I'm gonna be honest though Rinto could still very well be scum since there's presumably 2 left and I have varying townreads on everyone but Karote which means that I have to be wrong somewhere. But I just can't see a permutation where Karote is town."
https://xss.now.cc/forum/?topicid=1555461&show=2100#msg48039780
1] "I don't know I've seen a lot of post-mislynch reactions in my time and I've never seen a scum who could fake something like that."
Referring to this post, with Claire's post-lynch reactions: https://xss.now.cc/forum/?topicid=1555461&show=2100#msg48039478
I call bs on this. She posted standard post-lynch reactions, of course these can be faked.
2] I never lied about any of my abilities. I never lied about roleblocks! Here, he's trying to play down the fact that Claire lied several times! He also ignores my argument, that one of her lies helped KOtA.
I said this: "She literally made up a message to make KOtA appear innocent!"
But he straight up ignored this part of my comment.
All in all: Togs replied to my posts regarding Claire/Rinto, but I could tell his "read" on Rinto hadn't changed one bit. It felt as if he was trying to play down Claire's/Rinto's scumminess.
I bought another Paralyze Potion tonight and used it on Togs this time. Wow! Seems like we have lynch for today. |