KOtA said: i think i'll add that if you lynch the wrong person its game over :/ logic340 said: @Chione, @Karote, @KOtA, @Togs, @Rinto-kun, and @LucianRoy have you guys read all the flavor text that go along with the phase changes? Do either of you see anything there that relates to your private message? i did not , but i kind of know what its about THERE he is. |
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LucianRoy said: My answers may have come from the PM but I coded them in a way that you guys didn't even understand what we were doing. Also it was due to DenjaX behavior that I could tell he was town and vice versa. If that is breaking the game then so be it but with all the rampant inactivity what were we supposed to do lay down and just let the mafia win? How do you feel about the Mafia not takin DenjaX up on his offer to lynch inactive playes if they kill inactive players then let the game start from there? I am questioning the gamesmanship of this scum team they have frustrated me to the fullest. They are only this close to winning because they killed off the inactive while Mod Kills have helped with 3 or 4 deaths. Think about how many more days they would have to play if it wasn't for those modkills? So I don't feel bad at all for using the PM knowing that Mafia was going for the quick easy win rather than leveling the playing field by killing inactive players before the game actually starts.logic340 said: @LucianRoy did you ever look at the question that Denja asked me? My answers came from my PM. He realized I was town by my answers and responded that he didn't believe me and would lynch me. I told him do as you must. When then next day started and he didn't try to lynch me I knew that we were both town based on behavior. This is what I call a behavioral read and why I could understand the behavior behind their posts. You guys couldn't pick up on the subtle clues that we left it makes you looks scummy because there is information in the PM that is privileged to town alone. We can share that information to gain trust in one another. Only a few of us picked up on that early, which is why I was so shocked that Penta would say I read things at face value. They would never solve the game that way, I think a lot of what you guys are calling scummy behaviore is taking things at face value. while I am going beyond what is being said looking at why it is being said and what people do in response to what they have said. this is how I determine behavior. This is how I could read Denja as town when so many were still not sure what to think. Confirming eachother with PMs kinda sounds like borderline cheating/gamebreaking. Don't think I woulda partook in that had I even known what it was. Ruins the fun. |
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logic340 said: 1 hour left until phase change we need to get together on this one. @Chione, @LucianRoy, @-shad-. @Rinto-kun, @Karote, @KOta, @Togs Btw if you want a really good game, you might want to join a game with SoulEaterQ(who is on the waitlist for so long ;_;) So far we've confirmed half the population. 5:3 it is rn. If we mislynch, we're done. We're also dependent on Togs turning out scum and getting modkilled. What are your reasons for trusting Chione/Lucian? |
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logic340 said: @LucianRoy "Logic is town b/c he gripes about it constantly I guess." out of everything I have posted is this really the only way you can see me as town? It was a joke. |
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Rinto-kun said: At this point I am not sure that I do. I only trust you -shad- and Karote. Chione has been one of my strongest town reads. I cannot figure out where they are coming from.logic340 said: 1 hour left until phase change we need to get together on this one. @Chione, @LucianRoy, @-shad-. @Rinto-kun, @Karote, @KOta, @Togs Btw if you want a really good game, you might want to join a game with SoulEaterQ(who is on the waitlist for so long ;_;) So far we've confirmed half the population. 5:3 it is rn. If we mislynch, we're done. We're also dependent on Togs turning out scum and getting modkilled. What are your reasons for trusting Chione/Lucian? |
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LucianRoy said: ok....just trying to wrap my head around things. I am so lost don't know who is who past my main 3. logic340 said: @LucianRoy "Logic is town b/c he gripes about it constantly I guess." out of everything I have posted is this really the only way you can see me as town? It was a joke. KOta is right though mislynch and it's over if we hit right the togs mod kill and night kill wont end us. |
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-shad- said: @Logic340 @Rinto-Kun If you want to play safe -- (as togs could turn out scum) we can vote for togs. Ill follow suit and take our blame. If we want to play dangerous -- (we can vote for KOta) and hope that things that are good happen to us. KOtA doesn't even seem to be trying... Though he may be as desperate as us. |
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logic340 said: ok....just trying to wrap my head around things. I am so lost don't know who is who past my main 3. KOta is right though mislynch and it's over if we hit right the togs mod kill and night kill wont end us. Then where's your vote buddy? Got a better idea? I'm running low on fuel just as you are. |
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Rinto-kun said: Does it feel like town frustrated and giving up to you or Mafia quitting? If he is scum his team has left him out to dry.-shad- said: @Logic340 @Rinto-Kun If you want to play safe -- (as togs could turn out scum) we can vote for togs. Ill follow suit and take our blame. If we want to play dangerous -- (we can vote for KOta) and hope that things that are good happen to us. KOtA doesn't even seem to be trying... Though he may be as desperate as us. |
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logic340 said: Does it feel like town frustrated and giving up to you or Mafia quitting? If he is scum his team has left him out to dry. More like mafia not trying enough at all and not caring much for the game at all. |
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LucianRoy said: Chione has been in the clear with pretty much everyone but me is there a chance that they have pocketed you all?logic340 said: ok....just trying to wrap my head around things. I am so lost don't know who is who past my main 3. KOta is right though mislynch and it's over if we hit right the togs mod kill and night kill wont end us. Then where's your vote buddy? Got a better idea? I'm running low on fuel just as you are. I guess I will go with KOta since that seems to be the consensus. I really don't know just want to hit scum for once. |
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-shad- said: Ill go Vote : KOta Sorry if im wrong in this guys. I cant anymore, im beyond frustrated already. Don't be. This game has been really tiring for everyone. |
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Rinto-kun said: Btw guys, what do you think about a search party tonight? Without question. |
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logic340 said: LucianRoy said: Chione has been in the clear with pretty much everyone but me is there a chance that they have pocketed you all?Then where's your vote buddy? Got a better idea? I'm running low on fuel just as you are. I guess I will go with KOta since that seems to be the consensus. I really don't know just want to hit scum for once. I don't feel pocketed by chione at all. Where has she tried to lead me? I feel pretty on-tack. |
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Rinto-kun said: must use no matter what. Honestly I hope we get early results it will let us know if we lost 3 mafia or still have a chance 2 mafia. Btw guys, what do you think about a search party tonight? Scenario 1: Mislynch 3 mafia left we could possibly lose due to modkill (Togs) or night kill Scenario 2: Mislynch 2 Mafia left - Togs will be MK'd If he is scum then we enter day 5 at 4-2 Scenario 3: Good lynch 2 mafia left Togs (town) - We need to hope he is scum if not then the numbers will be 3-2 at the start of the next phase. Scenario 4: Good lynch Togs (scum) - This is the optimal scenario for us. I doubt this is it but here is hoping. 4-1 sstart of D5 if this scenario holds true. |
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LucianRoy said: Maybe I don't fully understand these mafia terms I though pocketing someone is when Scum gets that someone to believe they are town???logic340 said: Chione has been in the clear with pretty much everyone but me is there a chance that they have pocketed you all? I guess I will go with KOta since that seems to be the consensus. I really don't know just want to hit scum for once. I don't feel pocketed by chione at all. Where has she tried to lead me? I feel pretty on-tack. |
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logic340 said: LucianRoy said: Maybe I don't fully understand these mafia terms I though pocketing someone is when Scum gets that someone to believe they are town???I don't feel pocketed by chione at all. Where has she tried to lead me? I feel pretty on-tack. Yeah, but if chione actually pocketed me then she's had to have been pulling some kind of wool over my eyes this entire time, or she's manipulating something or someone. I don't feel like either has occurred from her slot. |
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| Ok sorry I didn’t realize the deadline was today. I think it’s best to let myself get modkilled for PoE so I’m just posting a little so I don’t affect that, I think the standard is five posts per phase ? I’m surprised I was kept alive for this Day even but okay. At least I have a chance to try to help sort out stuff. Ok so it’s 5/3 right now with 8 Alive. The one person I’m completely confident in is Shad, I also am town and don’t think it’s very wise to lynch me when I’m self-resolving so 3 scum in 6 people right now. Logic and Chione are the big “obvtowns,” but I don’t think I can actually clear either of them at this point. First off its slightly suspicious that they are still alive by now, especially in the case of Logic. I see he’s also defending Rinto which makes me a little paranoid.. but I think that if he or Chione actually is scum then with the game they played they probably deserve to win anyways. Anyways my thoughts are that while I’m not clearing them I don’t think we should look for today’s lynch in these players. So {Lucian, Rinto, Kota, Karote}, likely 2 or 3 scum in these four. I’ll lay down all the meta I have on them right here, maybe that will help a little. I am not really knowledgable on how people have been posting recently but I’ll try to give the knowledge I have. Lucian - As town I’ve seen him as aggressive and argumentative, he tries to get info from grilling people and plays more passively as scum. What I mostly read from him is his catchup which I didn’t find alignment indicative from him either way. Kota - One of the few strong opinions I had in this game was that Kota was probably town, as town he plays in this really safe manner where he doesn’t want to attract attention to himself and as scum he is usually just gone. Rinto - Can’t say I’m very useful here, I played with him when he replaced in a couple times but didn’t remember much. He fought hard when he was lynched in the Danganronpa game so if he’s adamantly opposed to pressure on himself that may be a town tell. Karote - He’s a very.. nonchalant ? player. Like does not follow what is expected of him but still contributes in his own way. It’s hard to get a read but he usually has some purpose to his odd posts as town that is revealed later. I will say based on gut I’d prefer to lynch Karote. I think it’s still very likely as people have been saying that there is scum in the {Kota, Karote} pair and I really felt like Kota was town when I read him earlier. |
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Togs said: Ok sorry I didn’t realize the deadline was today. I think it’s best to let myself get modkilled for PoE so I’m just posting a little so I don’t affect that, I think the standard is five posts per phase ? I’m surprised I was kept alive for this Day even but okay. At least I have a chance to try to help sort out stuff. YOU DUMMY IT'S MYLO POST |
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LucianRoy said: Unlike Penta he is willing to abstain from voting though. This makes me feel pretty good about Togs though I will not be asking him to vote this phase.LOOK WHO DECIDED TO SHOW UP |
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LucianRoy said: Not even on D1 when she was the first to bring up KOta yet voted tingle. Then moves vote to KOta later on after moving off tingle wouldn't look as bad? There is potential for it I do believe other than me who has caught some heat for being the only active player left alive who has suspected Chione? Only me I was the only one the entire game.logic340 said: Maybe I don't fully understand these mafia terms I though pocketing someone is when Scum gets that someone to believe they are town??? Yeah, but if chione actually pocketed me then she's had to have been pulling some kind of wool over my eyes this entire time, or she's manipulating something or someone. I don't feel like either has occurred from her slot. |
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logic340 said: @Chione and @Karote are you two going to vote? It's suspicious to me that you two are not voting for anyone right now. Why not KOta?? Weren't you two sold on him yesterday? Chill. I'm out shopping rn. |
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Chione said: Even though Astros hinted to it you find it undignified? I don't understand that line of thinking but ok. I will not succumb to making myself town read through the town PM. I have my pride as former Game Manager, even if it means being scum read and lynched. I can bring Mother Russia to glory even without hurting its dignity. Vadim: No Lynch. United!Will Never be Defeated! Remember those words comrades and they will guide you well Does this mean anything to you? |
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Chione said: It's this mindset that has town about to lose this game. We chilled out the entire phase for D2-D4 now with 10 minutes we need to continue chilling.logic340 said: @Chione and @Karote are you two going to vote? It's suspicious to me that you two are not voting for anyone right now. Why not KOta?? Weren't you two sold on him yesterday? Chill. I'm out shopping rn. |
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| Dam looks like I can’t do anything to save Kota. I really hope I’m wrong.. but ok. I’ll give you guys a word of caution if another Day does happen, don’t rely on flavorgaming, it has screwed people before in the past many times. Something that mods do is provide scum teams with example town PMs, I know Jack is aware of this and that he doesn’t like flavorgaming in his setups. So I’m warning you, anyone you’ve “cleared” from flavor cannot be relied on. |
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Togs said: I will take this with a grain of salt if we do get another day and I somehow manage to survive.Dam looks like I can’t do anything to save Kota. I really hope I’m wrong.. but ok. I’ll give you guys a word of caution if another Day does happen, don’t rely on flavorgaming, it has screwed people before in the past many times. Something that mods do is provide scum teams with example town PMs, I know Jack is aware of this and that he doesn’t like flavorgaming in his setups. So I’m warning you, anyone you’ve “cleared” from flavor cannot be relied on. |
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logic340 said: It's this mindset that has town about to lose this game. We chilled out the entire phase for D2-D4 now with 10 minutes we need to continue chilling. Don't tell me that. Tell that to all the guys who have worked less than me. |
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logic340 said: Chione said: Even though Astros hinted to it you find it undignified? I don't understand that line of thinking but ok. I will not succumb to making myself town read through the town PM. I have my pride as former Game Manager, even if it means being scum read and lynched. I can bring Mother Russia to glory even without hurting its dignity. Vadim: No Lynch. United!Will Never be Defeated! Remember those words comrades and they will guide you well Does this mean anything to you?If you'd have more experiences with imbalanced games, then you'd know where Lucy and I are coming from. I won't blame you tho. |
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Chione said: I have been doing that every phase but this one. I didn't have it in me anymore I was really sitting up at 2am asking myself "why should I even post???" This game has taken something away from me, Maybe I was too invested in this game but I fell like you and Karote have taken something out of me. I tried so hard and the two of you basically brushed off my efforts. If you guys are town then I am hurt truly because my effort wasn't worth anything to you two. If you are scum then good game fooling everyone. I think that if you and Karote are revealed to be town in the end I will avoid playing games with either of you in the future. I don't want to play with people who don't care to read what others actually have to say.logic340 said: It's this mindset that has town about to lose this game. We chilled out the entire phase for D2-D4 now with 10 minutes we need to continue chilling. Don't tell me that. Tell that to all the guys who have worked less than me. |
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logic340 said: I have been doing that every phase but this one. I didn't have it in me anymore I was really sitting up at 2am asking myself "why should I even post???" This game has taken something away from me, Maybe I was too invested in this game but I fell like you and Karote have taken something out of me. I tried so hard and the two of you basically brushed off my efforts. If you guys are town then I am hurt truly because my effort wasn't worth anything to you two. If you are scum then good game fooling everyone. I think that if you and Karote are revealed to be town in the end I will avoid playing games with either of you in the future. I don't want to play with people who don't care to read what others actually have to say. LifeProTip: I don't think you should be doing anything other than sleeping at 2 am. |
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