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Jul 21, 2017 4:12 AM

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yurkin said:
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I apologize but I am already at max serious. I can't go more serious than max serious. I think I can relax a bit now. There are only 5 non town roles and I (I dare to say single handedly) caught one. I am very satisfied with my performance this game.

vote: Abu

I dont have too many preferences on who will be lynched but I have two strong reads and I will try to not let you lynch them. One of them being Labs ....

@yurkin if labs die you are next ^^

I'm absolutely terrified grr.

I like that vote on abu tbh, too much lurking is too much.
Abuhumaid did not reached the posting requirement yesterday but did not get prodded, that sorta reminds me of certain something/event from past game.....


I wonder what game you could be referring to :P
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grrr said:
More additions:

2. Karote - doctor. protected no one night 1, 2 targets night 2 (forgot which ones) I dont know about night 3. Claimed a flovor but I forgot which one.
5. Floofs - claims Lamb was blocked night 2, some weird one shot message from the dead. no flavor.
6. Yurkin - no claims, very suspicious
7. Abu - abu? what abu?
8. Lucian - claimed flavor but then shinichi called him liar and he backed off. Won against logic day1
9. Re1031 - no claims, "LYNCH GRRR, GRRR is so EVIL"
11. Lamby - claimed flavor (forgot which) claimed killing role ? Claimed blocked night 2 before belling called out from floofs?
13. Grrr - claimed doctor N1 - no one, n2 - coromondel, n3 - lucian
14. Coromandel - Suspicious day 1, no claims. Fights yurkin
15. Logic340 - lost to lucian day 1, claimed blocked night 1 and night 3? Claims Lamb is protective role?

Uhh, chad literally gave me the wrong flavor. No lying was involved.
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Jul 21, 2017 5:22 AM

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It's D4, there's allegedly 1 scum left.
We could mass claim today.
At least that's what grr seems to be leaning towards by collecting info like that.

Unvote
Was a wee bit high when I did that.
Still think it's the right place to center town votes though.
I want to see what gets decided upon in terms of mass claim first because lamb would be first on my list of people to claim.

Yurkin is right too, optimal play is killig the doc and I'm an idiot.
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Jul 21, 2017 5:28 AM

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Blind?
You have my abilities, targets and the fact I found out the good one was a one shot not just ability #1.
Flavour has been there for the longest time too.
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Also I should probably fix this, Gottah try to sleep lol I have to get back up for work in about 4hrs.

Vote: abu

Hit up re next, cheers in advance.
Jul 21, 2017 5:36 AM

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1st step is working out who was roleblocked last night.
"If you look for a ghost, you'll find one."
Jul 21, 2017 5:38 AM

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logic340 said:
Vote: Labs
I was haunted again last night
Tried to kill labs last night btw.
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Look it over, add yourself to it, and share your thoughts what you think is likely going on.

Edit: Corrected final vote count for D3 per yurkin's #1564 (verified by logic double check me please)
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Jul 21, 2017 5:42 AM

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Labs said:

Hit up re next, cheers in advance.

Why do you feel this way? I can see a few things in the Vote Count that would suggest otherwise and her play has been fairly townie this game from my PoV.
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Jul 21, 2017 5:43 AM

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Anyways I'm out.
Foxy.... when reading, remember to read.
Jul 21, 2017 5:44 AM

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LucianRoy said:
1st step is working out who was roleblocked last night.
Logic was role blocked again last night.
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Jul 21, 2017 5:44 AM

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Labs said:
Anyways I'm out.
Foxy.... when reading, remember to read.
LMAO
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Jul 21, 2017 5:53 AM

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I like that train o/

change vote: abu

how about show up and post some today.
Jul 21, 2017 5:55 AM

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Btw i have not voted zymf, final vote count d3... and i noticed i have typed gravekeeper instead of digger lol
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Floofs said:
yurkin said:

I'm absolutely terrified grr.

I like that vote on abu tbh, too much lurking is too much.
Abuhumaid did not reached the posting requirement yesterday but did not get prodded, that sorta reminds me of certain something/event from past game.....


I wonder what game you could be referring to :P

Bet you know which one floofs ;3
Jul 21, 2017 6:07 AM

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yurkin said:
I like that train o/

change vote: abu

how about show up and post some today.
we have plenty of time so let's not just park our vote so to actually discuss it I'm going through Abu interactions with both kit and Whisper at the moment, so I should have something for us to discuss shortly. In the meantime you guys should all share your own thoughts on why exactly Abu is come here?
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Jul 21, 2017 6:19 AM

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logic340 said:
yurkin said:
I like that train o/

change vote: abu

how about show up and post some today.
we have plenty of time so let's not just park our vote so to actually discuss it I'm going through Abu interactions with both kit and Whisper at the moment, so I should have something for us to discuss shortly. In the meantime you guys should all share your own thoughts on why exactly Abu is come here?

No worries there logic, i can always change vote ;3 abu got to take some part of the game today though. There have been to little interaction to look into, one thing i remember i kits read on him 577 and how he suddenly show up yesterday just to vote zymf and disappear once again.
If you remember something noteworthy say so.
Jul 21, 2017 8:00 AM

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@RE1031 who are you willing to vote today?
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Jul 21, 2017 8:18 AM

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I think people are misrepping what a misrepresentation is.

Theory based arguments are bland and repetitive, but the entire thing got us here in the end.
@All, do logic's actions/read/vote on me elicit any kind of read on him?
Or me for that matter.

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Kit is the third highest poster in the thread and both the #1 and #2 poster have a neutral read on them.

Is there something wrong with that?

Vote: Kit


Can you explain where this vote came from? Since this was brought up again, I keep reading this and Im confused?
Lets see if we can find another one of these type posts from Whisper. This is him trying to look like he's trying to understand the reasoning behind this vote as we just keyed in on his partner. I also need to look into him not voting for her EoD1 and the reasoning behind it. Might be able to find something similar or even read more into his vote on Abu? Maybe whisper was taking the opposite approach than he did with Kit by voting his teammate since he had a track record (of sorts in this game). I just finished a game where whisper was mafia (making this his first scum game). In that game he voted with his scum buddies but never voted (bussed) for them. I am not saying it couldn't or didn't happen here I am just providing information so we can all come to an informed decision.
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@Labs with Karote you and grrr all claiming protective roles how do you currently feel about grrr's slot?
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Lets add a little color to this and see what it helps us find?
kit said:
town to scum

logic - town logic, shows a lot of effort for solving the game
re - it's easy to follow her mindset and seems to have town thinking
coro - don't understand the votes here i think her posts show reason although i dont remember her posting a lot

abu - not so active, so he must be bored cause he got town

--will vote below here--

wisp - here n there with him but like that he is active at least, could just need more time
skittle - ???
conq - under my radar but i dont immediately think he's scummy
karote - ????
lamby - confusing and abrasive as usual

grr - tpr probably lying, but could be town fake claiming
zymf - tpr, if lying then not town

yurk - bad feeling
floof - they went back to talking about the mechanics stuff that happened at the very beginning , not really alignments. appearance of doing something?
lucianroy - ok, the more i read from him the more susp i feel about him. I think he nudged logic in the beginning as a way to test the waters, look like he's doing something, and to turn around on logic and end up buddying him and ever since then they are like a pair that everyone automatically town reads. It makes me think of other games i've played where scum buddy a town after pushing them and backing off :s

Vote: LucianRoy

logic340 @RE1031 can you tell me why lucian is town, since this seems to be the consensus? also what do you think of floof?

lastwhisper31 @lucianroy why vote coro?

karote @floofs mrskittles94 you guys going to vote at all? we have less than half a day left. you have even 1 scum read?

@grrr zymf you guys are just voting each other.. do you not have better scum reads than just your opposite claim?
This part about Abu stands out to me "abu - not so active, so he must be bored cause he got town" most of us know that activity is not indicative of alignment with Abu even as scum he is very inactive.
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Adding color again
lastwhipser said:
Ok let me chime in here, sadly there is a small group barely talking throwing rvs votes out and not really giving much of a signal on why or what they are doing. Actually I guess Im come off as a little in that group, my problem is a tend to let other people talk for me, which makes my votes come off as kinda out of know where.

Seems like a big train as formed on Kit, which seems to link to her read post in which she states at the bottom, that Roy and Logic could be mafia buddies trying to create a scene, and making up so they can turn around and control the game. I find this highly unlikely, because like I stated before I see Logic as one of my Highest Town Leans.

Lets talk about Lamby and Fluff(you could easily hide a knife under that army of cat pillows :P. Lamby tends to just come and go, and make very aggressive posts about peoples decision making almost like he's trying to deliberately spread votes out to avoid lynches. Or maybe im just salty that he always attacks me lol. Fluff hasnt done really much of anything except talking about posts in the early game, and then seeming to jump on this kit bandwagon for what looks like an easy lynch, def not the smartest move from this pillow of demons.

Kudos to Karote for moving his vote once fluff voted for Kit, He knows that those little demons are up to know good.

Going to split up my post here, and talk about Grr, Zymf, Coro, and Conquerer in my next post.

Edit: I missed 16 posts writing this, ohh god

lastwhisper31 said:
I guess me voting for Zymf kinda seems like taking the easy way out, and trying to find someone to lynch, but Im not stupid, take this as you will, but im not going to, as mafia, try to jump onto the first claim I see. I genuinely just atm didnt want to just completely believe that post, because it could have been easily reworded. The only reason I even made him my first vote was because TheConquerer thought the same as me so Hey maybe i wasnt crazy. Or maybe his role post is all a complete lie and dont tell me that not a possibility. Both Lamby and Coro jumped at me for that vote because I guess its already been confirmed somehow that Zymf is really a good tpr, so god forbid I think differently.

As for Conquerer, I'm completely on his side, I trust the reasoning behind his initial vote and his vote change to grr.

My vote will stay on Coro, she attacked Conquerers original reasoning for his vote on Zymf, even though I thought it was decent, which is why I went a long with it, and then attacked him when he switched to Grrr, which seems to be the "you must for him or your scum" kinda deal. And now all of a sudden hes ok with Conquerer and I became his vote, I mean I guess I can spend all game proving my innocence like last game, I dont mind.

One thing I will not do is vote for Grrr, Lets just says hypothetically speaking Grrr really is an evil tpr, and by putting all this spotlight on himself he believes that he might just end up clearing himself, I just don't believe that, like I said before, Grrr is a troll, but not a stupid troll.
Not sure what to make of the bolded about grrr would he do this kind of whiteknighting for a teammate in his first scum game? He did something similar with Kit so it's possible?
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Jul 21, 2017 9:32 AM

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Start D1 10-3-2 lynch Kit
Start N1 10-2-2 TheConquerer night killed
Start D2 9-2-2 lynch MrSkittles
Start N2 8-2-1 lastwhisper night killed
Start D3 8-1-1 lynch Zymf
Start N3 8-1-0 Karote night killed
Start D4 7-1

We should have 3 mislynches to give. So I think we should be able to hit the final scum. But let's hope it doesn't come to that.
Edit: corrected numbers
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Labs said:

So far I've been presented with "I feel safe, let's roll off of sloppy Poe"
And "I recieved my pm from the host, not the co-host"

Other than that I have no idea, but it's too late I've sent in my day ability.

Okay, not what I thought. I thought it had to do with you being roleblocked from the dead night 2 but no "you have been haunted" message kind of thing. Mod error probably, hm.

yurkin said:
lambs flavour sayen itzel.

Where did he claim? Because that's my flavor TTwTT
Most likely another mistake.
Well I might as well claim now - Sayen Itzel, Human/Spirit. 3 times a game, I have the ability to "share souls" with another player. During that time, I gain the same passive abilities they do. If they die, I can no longer use their ability. I'm not informed of what abilities, but only if the sharing is successful (aka if the person has passive abilities or not). I've only used it once so far. I kind of regret lynching Zymf, because bulletproof would have been nice, but my current choice is pretty good, I think.

logic340 said:
@RE1031 who are you willing to vote today?

grrr, Abu
Possibly Floofs, because I feel like their claim can come from either alignment and their behavior is suspiciously like Abu's. But given the day 1 final votes, it's the least likely, and I'm pretty sure scum is between grrr and Abu.

vote: Abu
Looks like he just gave up. If he's town, you're next grrr.
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
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I won't be able to post much this phase, sorry for that.


Vote Change: @AbuHumaid

claim.

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@coromondel

You should claim too ^^
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coromandel said:
I won't be able to post much this phase, sorry for that.
Vote Change: @AbuHumaid
claim.
Thanks for the heads up and I have no issue with him claiming we need info otherwise he's just going to be lynched.
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logic340 said:
Kit Interaction Analysis (if it appears I missed something do let me know)
Key:
| = Strong interaction (Vote/Pressure/Gametalk)
- = Weak interaction (Fluff/Passive Mention)

Alive Players
LucianRoy: |-|||||||||||
logic340: ---|-|||||||||
Grrr: ---|||
Lastwhisper31: ||--||
yurkin: ||||
Zymf: -|||
Floofs: |||
MrSkittles94: -||
Re1031: |-
Karote: |
AbuHumaid: |
Laby-Gaga:
coromandel:

Dead Players:
TheConquerer:
New thoughts given the Whisper flip Anyone with minimal interactions with Kit worries me.
RE not voting Kit D1, defending her EoD1, and having limited interactions with her is making me wonder if I have been pocketed?
Labs has no interactions other than the vote for Kit with nothing else.
Coro surprisingly has not interactions with Kit D1 outside of her vote on Kit. That late vote jump to Kit with no interactions is kind of a cause for concern I think?
Abu has the one interaction and it actually looks like it could be a softball interaction between teammates. I also think the vote from Last could be a distancing maneuver considering he basically called kit town before her flip. So I think it's likely if Abu is indeed his partner he took a different approach with him.
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@logic

Coro made very weird voting acrobatics on day 1. Coro is very dark and scary.
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I'm the watcher/tracker
i have a 1 shot tracking ability and a 1 shot watching ability
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Coro, RE, grrr

one of these three is scum

Vote: grrr
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grrr said:
@logic

Coro made very weird voting acrobatics on day 1. Coro is very dark and scary.

lmao.. what are those voting acrobatics you're talking about?


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I'm the watcher/tracker
i have a 1 shot tracking ability and a 1 shot watching ability

Do you have any results for us?

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i tracked Roy on night 1, he didn't visit anyone
and watched logic on night 2, he wasn't visited by anyone

i rushed in using my abilities because i didn't think i'd survive this late in the game
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@grrr @AbuHumaid @yurkin @RE1031 @Labs @Floofs

Why was Karote killed last night?

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coromandel said:
@grrr @AbuHumaid @yurkin @RE1031 @Labs @Floofs

Why was Karote killed last night?
didn't he claim doctor? i think it's a nightkill
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RE1031 said:
Labs said:

So far I've been presented with "I feel safe, let's roll off of sloppy Poe"
And "I recieved my pm from the host, not the co-host"
Okay, not what I thought. I thought it had to do with you being roleblocked from the dead night 2 but no "you have been haunted" message kind of thing. Mod error probably, hm.
Why would you brush this off so quickly as just a host error or possible mistake without looking into it first? What if it isn't an error what if he really fake claimed it (though I don't know why he would)?

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@logic

Coro made very weird voting acrobatics on day 1. Coro is very dark and scary.

lmao.. what are those voting acrobatics you're talking about?
I think he is talking about your late switch to Kit with stated reason of preventing a tie while not being sold on the lynch? I am assuming he's talking about the post below.
coromandel said:
My vote isn't doing anything atm..

vote change: Kit
I'm not fully convinced she's scum, but I'm town-reading grrr and want to avoid a tie.
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AbuHumaid said:
Karote said:


So are you gonna vote for Coro?

yes for now

Vote: Coro
How come for now never changed later on?
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AbuHumaid said:

yes for now

Vote: Coro
How come for now never changed later on?
because there was no better lynch imo
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logic340 said:
coromandel said:

lmao.. what are those voting acrobatics you're talking about?
I think he is talking about your late switch to Kit with stated reason of preventing a tie while not being sold on the lynch? I am assuming he's talking about the post below.
coromandel said:
My vote isn't doing anything atm..

vote change: Kit
I'm not fully convinced she's scum, but I'm town-reading grrr and want to avoid a tie.

I would hardly call this 'vote acrobatics' though.


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@logic

Coro made very weird voting acrobatics on day 1. Coro is very dark and scary.

If you suspect me, why aren't you voting for me?


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I dont have too many preferences on who will be lynched but I have two strong reads and I will try to not let you lynch them. One of them being Labs ....

Why are you town-reading Labs?

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Vote Count 4.1

Abu (5):-Grrr, lab, yurkin,Re103, Coro
Grrr(1)-Abu

Not Voting: flofs, lucian


I thought logic unvoted?
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@Shinichi-Kun the ones not voting are floofs and Lucian, and you forgot logic's vote on labs
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also Labs voted for me, i didn't vote for myself
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Is Abu voting for himself? x)


Vote change: grrr

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Vote: Labs
I was haunted again last night
Tried to kill labs last night btw.

Oh wow I am such a fuck up.
Ok, we got that out of the way.
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logic340 said:
Labs said:

Hit up re next, cheers in advance.

Why do you feel this way? I can see a few things in the Vote Count that would suggest otherwise and her play has been fairly townie this game from my PoV.

Yeah, ditto on the RE townread.
Not sure where lamb is coming from on that one.

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I'm the watcher/tracker
i have a 1 shot tracking ability and a 1 shot watching ability


Can confirm. Did not move.

I actually believe Abu's claim and I've been town reading him for a while.

Still think the last scum is between floofs, labs, and maybe, that's a strong maybe, on grr.

Vote: Floofs

Who's the last scum? And why.
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Shinichi-Kun said:
Vote Count 4.1

Abu (3):-Grrr, Abu, yurkin,Re103, Coro
Grrr(1)-Abu

Not Voting: flofs

Where is Labs vote?
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coromandel said:
@grrr @AbuHumaid @yurkin @RE1031 @Labs @Floofs

Why was Karote killed last night?


I just noticed karote is dead ... lol. Serves him right for trying to counter claim me : D .
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@logic

Coro made very weird voting acrobatics on day 1. Coro is very dark and scary.

lmao.. what are those voting acrobatics you're talking about?

TheConq -> LW -> Getting yourself voted by R1231 -> Signing Kit's death.

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More additions:

2. Karote - doctor. protected coro and re night 2. Ja ling flavor
5. Floofs - claims Lamb was blocked night 2, some weird one shot message from the dead. no flavor.
6. Yurkin - grave robber (what is this ? can use the abilities of the dead? )
7. Abu - watcher/ tracker one shot, not yet used.
8. Lucian - claimed flavor but then shinichi called him liar and he backed off. Won against logic day1
9. Re1031 - no claims, "LYNCH GRRR, GRRR is so EVIL"
11. Lamby - claimed flavour sayen itze Claimed blocked night 2 before belling called out from floofs? Body guard?
13. Grrr - claimed doctor N1 - no one, n2 - coromondel, n3 - lucian
14. Coromandel - Suspicious day 1, no claims. Fights yurkin
15. Logic340 - lost to lucian day 1, claimed blocked night 1 and night 3? exorcism bullets
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I suggest all visiting roles to visit Floofs. Floofs is not visiting role. Abu will watch Floofs. If he manages to guess all our names correctly he lives.

vote: yurkin

She has to say more about the ability
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