Phraze said: Ruu said: I didn't say Shin was scum. Some stuff looks scummy (like the manipulation post I talked about earlier) but right now I don't have enough evidence to make me think he is scum. Can you answer my other question? and what do you think of my reads? specially logic. does that mean u think Last is scum? looks like u were townreading him tbh. what about Last/Shin interactions say t/s? answered. don't agree with ur list. lots of shade/uncertainty for this much information in the thread. Logic is just inactive to me, and the posts he made haven't struck scum to me so far - if u wanna argue why I picked u over him. I think my wording was not clear. I think that Wisp/Shin can be both town OR one of them could be scum. I'm not saying one of the MUST be scum. What I'm certain of is that they can't be scum together. don't agree with ur list. Can you be more specific? Which part? Also when did I shade anyone? |
Phraze said: neutral. no read. are u asking this cuz u think he could be the suspected 'inactive scum'? I wouldn't put much weight on that theory. oh no, I didn't consider him as one of the inactives actually xD My vote on logic has to do with his lack of... towniness I guess? I'm not getting town!logic from his posts and that makes me uneasy. I'm doing an iso on him atm to see if my gut feeling is not just that. ( @lastwhisper31 ) |
lastwhisper31 said: @phraze I mean better option for you... I agree hes a good option, maybe trash is just bad... but I still like my vote here. I'll take a page from Roz's book and not overlook someone because they seem new... Trash isn't new. Karote is unhelpful. the one with higher chance to damage town should be obv. but I'm willing to vote Trash if it'll settle things its a waste to defend townreads so much |
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Phraze said: yurkin said: less aggression, more sense? I'm working on it :3Phraze is worrying me XD what was the point of saying it multiple times that u will change ur vote on EoP /puzzled the whole point of saying that is to force people to think ofc. I need my drastic change. It felt like a threat or ultimatum tbf. Especially once I read u don't really want to lynch ruu but still planning on voting there on EoP. |
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| Honestly I'm not really comfortable with lynches on anyone at the moment. Gonna wake up early to do a full reread |
Ruu said: if u think both might be town, why did u say t/s? could've easily said 'def not s/s'. wording is shady.Phraze said: does that mean u think Last is scum? looks like u were townreading him tbh. what about Last/Shin interactions say t/s? answered. don't agree with ur list. lots of shade/uncertainty for this much information in the thread. Logic is just inactive to me, and the posts he made haven't struck scum to me so far - if u wanna argue why I picked u over him. I think my wording was not clear. I think that Wisp/Shin can be both town OR one of them could be scum. I'm not saying one of the MUST be scum. What I'm certain of is that they can't be scum together. don't agree with ur list. Can you be more specific? Which part? Also when did I shade anyone? if 'shading' confuses u, pls read 'uncertainty' - added that in case this happened. |
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lastwhisper31 said: Kinda new, but I'm mostly just bad. ;)@phraze I mean better option for you... I agree hes a good option, maybe trash is just bad... but I still like my vote here. I'll take a page from Roz's book and not overlook someone because they seem new... |
I'm willing to lynch Togs over abhutrash. Karote is not a bad candidate either because his randomness is not helping but, like I said before, he reminds me of Lamb/Denja. Can anyone tell me if this looks like town!Karote or scum!Karote? cause I seriously don't know... |
Phraze said: Ruu said: if u think both might be town, why did u say t/s? could've easily said 'def not s/s'. wording is shady.I think my wording was not clear. I think that Wisp/Shin can be both town OR one of them could be scum. I'm not saying one of the MUST be scum. What I'm certain of is that they can't be scum together. don't agree with ur list. Can you be more specific? Which part? Also when did I shade anyone? if 'shading' confuses u, pls read 'uncertainty' - added that in case this happened. fair point. My mistake. |
yurkin said: Phraze said: less aggression, more sense? I'm working on it :3 the whole point of saying that is to force people to think ofc. I need my drastic change. It felt like a threat or ultimatum tbf. Especially once I read u don't really want to lynch ruu but still planning on voting there on EoP. ? I think that is self-explanatory. |
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Phraze said: yurkin said: It felt like a threat or ultimatum tbf. Especially once I read u don't really want to lynch ruu but still planning on voting there on EoP. ? I think that is self-explanatory. ? :< Is not. |
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Ruu said: idk either. Karote just seems deliberately unhelpful.I'm willing to lynch Togs over abhutrash. Karote is not a bad candidate either because his randomness is not helping but, like I said before, he reminds me of Lamb/Denja. Can anyone tell me if this looks like town!Karote or scum!Karote? cause I seriously don't know... |
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Phraze said: tbh thats how i think of shin sometimes...Ruu said: idk either. Karote just seems deliberately unhelpful.I'm willing to lynch Togs over abhutrash. Karote is not a bad candidate either because his randomness is not helping but, like I said before, he reminds me of Lamb/Denja. Can anyone tell me if this looks like town!Karote or scum!Karote? cause I seriously don't know... |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
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| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Ruu said: i mean, even if I say its town!karote or scum!karote the deciding factor is ultimately you, so the question should be, which incarnation of Karote do you believe is in this game? Tbh, regardless of how much evidence we have for/against him being scum, hes still not very helpful, so ultimately it tends to dwell on the fact that is he gunna be useful regardless? Which seems to always be the case with Karote... I'm willing to lynch Togs over abhutrash. Karote is not a bad candidate either because his randomness is not helping but, like I said before, he reminds me of Lamb/Denja. Can anyone tell me if this looks like town!Karote or scum!Karote? cause I seriously don't know... |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
| ok. I was planning to vote Trash if Ruu showed up or I had no alternative by EoD. didn't wanna add fuel to an easy/onesided fire tho. and I want to see what Ruu would do (which isn't looking good atm). [Trash' posts gave me pause too] |
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Phraze said: not so easy it, when multiple people look scummy... ok. I was planning to vote Trash if Ruu showed up or I had no alternative by EoD. didn't wanna add fuel to an easy/onesided fire tho. and I want to see what Ruu would do (which isn't looking good atm). [Trash' posts gave me pause too] |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: i mean, even if I say its town!karote or scum!karote the deciding factor is ultimately you, so the question should be, which incarnation of Karote do you believe is in this game? Tbh, regardless of how much evidence we have for/against him being scum, hes still not very helpful, so ultimately it tends to dwell on the fact that is he gunna be useful regardless? Which seems to always be the case with Karote... I'm willing to lynch Togs over abhutrash. Karote is not a bad candidate either because his randomness is not helping but, like I said before, he reminds me of Lamb/Denja. Can anyone tell me if this looks like town!Karote or scum!Karote? cause I seriously don't know... I'm not seeing any plans behind his posts (traps or helpful pressure) so I'm leaning scum. But there is nothing that screams scum either. Everything he says could come from scum or town with him, that's my problem. I don't know his meta. Right now he is not helping town so I'm not against his lynch. |
| tbh the only reason I'm even considering Ruu might actually be scum, is strictly tone... doesnt feel like spastic!ruu, but again some posts do, when she half heartedly jumps out and calls people scum and seems so sure of herself. I wanted her train to grow, because one, Ruu is adorable when she AtE's and secondly, you can almost always deduce her alignment by how she reacts xD |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Ruu said: lastwhisper31 said: i mean, even if I say its town!karote or scum!karote the deciding factor is ultimately you, so the question should be, which incarnation of Karote do you believe is in this game? Tbh, regardless of how much evidence we have for/against him being scum, hes still not very helpful, so ultimately it tends to dwell on the fact that is he gunna be useful regardless? Which seems to always be the case with Karote... I'm not seeing any plans behind his posts (traps or helpful pressure) so I'm leaning scum. But there is nothing that screams scum either. Everything he says could come from scum or town with him, that's my problem. I don't know his meta. Right now he is not helping town so I'm not against his lynch. Don't try and read karote's meta. It won't help you. |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
Phraze said: ok. I was planning to vote Trash if Ruu showed up or I had no alternative by EoD. didn't wanna add fuel to an easy/onesided fire tho. and I want to see what Ruu would do (which isn't looking good atm). [Trash' posts gave me pause too] what do you want from me? I'm commenting on people's posts, I'm giving you some reads (there are not great but I'm bad at scum hunting, I usually follow my gut) and I'm having a conversation with you and others. There is nothing more I can do. I will be more active from now on but I can't change the fact that I was mia (because of irl stuff). |
riku said: stop being so pessimistic...Ruu said: I'm not seeing any plans behind his posts (traps or helpful pressure) so I'm leaning scum. But there is nothing that screams scum either. Everything he says could come from scum or town with him, that's my problem. I don't know his meta. Right now he is not helping town so I'm not against his lynch. Don't try and read karote's meta. It won't help you. Ruu said: i want you to sell your body to the triads 😈Phraze said: ok. I was planning to vote Trash if Ruu showed up or I had no alternative by EoD. didn't wanna add fuel to an easy/onesided fire tho. and I want to see what Ruu would do (which isn't looking good atm). [Trash' posts gave me pause too] what do you want from me? I'm commenting on people's posts, I'm giving you some reads (there are not great but I'm bad at scum hunting, I usually follow my gut) and I'm having a conversation with you and others. There is nothing more I can do. I will be more active from now on but I can't change the fact that I was mia (because of irl stuff). |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
lastwhisper31 said: tbh the only reason I'm even considering Ruu might actually be scum, is strictly tone... doesnt feel like spastic!ruu, but again some posts do, when she half heartedly jumps out and calls people scum and seems so sure of herself. I wanted her train to grow, because one, Ruu is adorable when she AtE's and secondly, you can almost always deduce her alignment by how she reacts xD LMAO you are just like your brother, enjoying my suffering xD |
Phraze said: Ruu said: idk either. Karote just seems deliberately unhelpful.I'm willing to lynch Togs over abhutrash. Karote is not a bad candidate either because his randomness is not helping but, like I said before, he reminds me of Lamb/Denja. Can anyone tell me if this looks like town!Karote or scum!Karote? cause I seriously don't know... You already know I hate Day 1 ... |
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Ruu said: true ur suffering feeds me, but honestly I want to sort you out as soon as possiblelastwhisper31 said: tbh the only reason I'm even considering Ruu might actually be scum, is strictly tone... doesnt feel like spastic!ruu, but again some posts do, when she half heartedly jumps out and calls people scum and seems so sure of herself. I wanted her train to grow, because one, Ruu is adorable when she AtE's and secondly, you can almost always deduce her alignment by how she reacts xD LMAO you are just like your brother, enjoying my suffering xD |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
riku said: Shinichi-Kun said: But u should cause that just makes it easier for scum to push a mislynch on you never happens Really now? why not? |
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Ruu said: ironace said: ok so im kinda caught up. I still dont know what to make of people d1/d2 so ill be running around in circles fml. I see riku said he is miller somewhere?Where may i ask(i havent read all of the posts) I honestly believe he could be tpr(joker or whatever that role is where win con is getting lynched) I mean, hwy else would he write in such an annoying manner? Either that or he really is scum. i dont know what to think of the others as i suck. this is weird. Why don't you belive the miller claim? it's a bastard setup, it's not unlikely. I also thought it was tpr before the others figured out the miller claim but now I'm between him being miller or scum, yet you still think he could be tpr... I dont think bastard was in the setup rules was it? Either way i dont consider a mill a bastard role, that be different he said person was actually a traitor. |
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now I am. I'm voting logic. Rereading him atm to see if my gut feeling on him is correct. |
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Karote said: now imagine, if everyone else had that mindset, nothing would get done on day 1... so dont give me that bull... somebody has to do the dirty work day one, and it'd be nice if you like gave even a little bit of insight on everyone's thoughts instead of just out right plagiarizing them to sheep a vote... Phraze said: idk either. Karote just seems deliberately unhelpful. You already know I hate Day 1 ... |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
| shit vote, place it else where |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Phraze said: Pokeit said: Trash's #201 looks like whiteknighting u, I doubt scum will link themselves together this early so it should be t/t or t/s.I'm trying to work out who would be scum in at post. Ruu gets my vote for pressure I guess, since u and Trash respond well enough without wagons on u both@Shinichi-Kun @abhutrash @Karote @logic340 @yurkin @Ruu @ScarletCelestial @ironace @Tainted @lastwhisper31 @Togs @Yachty I'm going to ask you all a question. Do you think I'm suspicious? Why? Why not? This is important to me. Please answer. (Removed riku (obviously) and @Phraze Can you mention why you changed your mind? I was rereading and saw this. Phraze why didn't you just say "'def not s/s". lol jk |
I always think bastard is the same as role madness. It was my mistake. I already talk about this @lastwhisper31 I will vote however I please, I won't change my vote because you don't like my reasons. I'll change it when I find a stronger scum read. |
Ruu said: Pokeit said: I had read the thread and saw that people had hinted towards him being miller, but I wanted him to hard claim it and confirm it directly. He could be freaking out because he's not actually miller. He could also be freaking out because he doesn't have a way to respond to my questions. this makes no sense. He clearly claimed Miller, there is no reason to freak out. I'm also thinking that mafia wouldn't fake claim miller because there is a chance that somebody else has that role since it's a bastard setup. Riku is town miller imo. I'm against his lynch. Again why did u assume it was bastard, and why do u consider miller a bastard role? Also how often do you even see millers for someone to worry about that? Ruu said: lastwhisper31 said: Trash is scum because of how he is playing, pocketing, white knighting, bad votes, his tone..., the use of meta reads... pretty much everything, and like you said, I dont think him and Ruu are aligned... but i'd be willing to move to ur side if I cant push this train, because I do to, like removing Ruu from the game Day 1... lol this is just mean ;-; at least wait till D2 to lynch me. if u're scum why wait? Ruu said: what I was talking about is that usually scum thinks about manipulating others. It reads as a scum slip to me. Your thoughts on my last post (581) with all my reads? If its a scum slip its something i purposely did therefore not a slip lol. Ruu said: Karote said: When you catch up, tell me who from your train is scum? I changed my vote from you bit while ago but you can include me. Also do you think Shinichi is scum this game? I don't even know who is voting for me atm.We need a vc >_> @AbuHumaid @Crossbell Some thoughts: 1) Wisp/Shin are either t/t or t/s . I don't think they could be scum buddies ( I thought it was a possibility after Shin talked about me bussing as scum in Kiznaiver - I thought maybe he was trying to do the same with his brother but I changed my mind). They are both neutral for now. I need to interact more with both to get a decent read (which I'm planning to do, don't worry guys, my inactivity ends now) 2) I believe at least 1 scum is inactive atm. 3) I believe riku 4) You are hard to read. Reminds me of Denja/Lamby: sheeping votes, short posts from time to time, lurking, not giving much explanation for their votes. 5) I will vote: logic, his behaviour doesn't scream town!logic. I will re read his posts to be more sure of my gut feeling and will make a separate post with my thoughts. 6) Pokeit is leaning town atm. His tunnel on riku was bad but apart from that I like his posts. 7) Not enought info to give a decent read: Yatchy, Togs, Scarlet (I like one of her posts thou, but that's it). 8) I don't know why @Phraze went from "I will be voting for Trash or Ruu" to "I'm voting for Karote". Aparently she didn't vote for Trash because of one post of his (about being okay with dying iirc). I wish to hear more from her regarding that (this is a question for you Phraze btw lol). Her talking about voting for me is nai. 9) I will re-read abhutrash/yurkin/Tainted because I didn't take a good look when I was catching up. 1.I normally really bad at reading into my brother, but i dont have any real reason to believe hes scum just yet so i see him as town. 2.Why? 3.Doesnt matter if u believe him or not he could still be scum 4.who are u refering to here? 5.Explain your read on logic plz so i can read it in the morning 6.I agree with the town lean 7.togs and scarlet are iffy, ill just wait for yatchy to get replaced 8.Phraze has always been a wild card for me 9.1 of those 3 in my opinion is scum not sure which yet |
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Phraze said: lastwhisper31 said: he's a better option imo. Trash looks too easy.hes a valid option too, his sheep votes, and his general tonal, feel more scummy then anything I agree here as well, but he could still be scum regardless of that iron tends to be a mislynch as well but due to his activity he could possibly be an inactive scum Phraze said: yurkin said: less aggression, more sense? I'm working on it :3Phraze is worrying me XD what was the point of saying it multiple times that u will change ur vote on EoP /puzzled the whole point of saying that is to force people to think ofc. I need my drastic change. I kinda like the idea of her changing her vote at the EOP we will see how that goes. |
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Ruu said: ... anyways, Phraze was just being nitpicky their, because they both mean the same thing to me... looking to much into the wording and less into the meaning, which is literally the same...Phraze said: Trash's #201 looks like whiteknighting u, I doubt scum will link themselves together this early so it should be t/t or t/s.I'm trying to work out who would be scum in at post. Ruu gets my vote for pressure I guess, since u and Trash respond well enough without wagons on u both I was rereading and saw this. Phraze why didn't you just say "'def not s/s". lol jk S/T not aligned, one is town, one is scum not S/S I guess focuses more on the fact that they arent both scum, and maybe neither are scum? but also not really... because you did say t/t or s/t so the point was pretty clear |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Ruu said: Phraze said: does that mean u think Last is scum? looks like u were townreading him tbh. what about Last/Shin interactions say t/s? answered. don't agree with ur list. lots of shade/uncertainty for this much information in the thread. Logic is just inactive to me, and the posts he made haven't struck scum to me so far - if u wanna argue why I picked u over him. I think my wording was not clear. I think that Wisp/Shin can be both town OR one of them could be scum. I'm not saying one of the MUST be scum. What I'm certain of is that they can't be scum together. don't agree with ur list. Can you be more specific? Which part? Also when did I shade anyone? That wording is a drastic change from T/S just saying Idk how ur certain of that? Like explain plz |
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Ruu said: i mean you can vote where ever, but the vote is still trash... and how the hell is logic your strongest scum read... bleghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhI always think bastard is the same as role madness. It was my mistake. I already talk about this @lastwhisper31 I will vote however I please, I won't change my vote because you don't like my reasons. I'll change it when I find a stronger scum read. @phraze I might move over to Miss Ruu after all |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
lastwhisper31 said: now imagine, if everyone else had that mindset, nothing would get done on day 1... so dont give me that bull... somebody has to do the dirty work day one, and it'd be nice if you like gave even a little bit of insight on everyone's thoughts instead of just out right plagiarizing them to sheep a vote... But reality is, everyone's different :^) |
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Phraze said: Ruu said: idk either. Karote just seems deliberately unhelpful.I'm willing to lynch Togs over abhutrash. Karote is not a bad candidate either because his randomness is not helping but, like I said before, he reminds me of Lamb/Denja. Can anyone tell me if this looks like town!Karote or scum!Karote? cause I seriously don't know... like every game even if hes town lol which is why its so ahrd to read him at times @ruu idk if this answers ur question about karote |
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lastwhisper31 said: Phraze said: tbh thats how i think of shin sometimes...idk either. Karote just seems deliberately unhelpful. Rawr i am a lion Phraze said: ok. I was planning to vote Trash if Ruu showed up or I had no alternative by EoD. didn't wanna add fuel to an easy/onesided fire tho. and I want to see what Ruu would do (which isn't looking good atm). [Trash' posts gave me pause too] Ruu just seems overly paranoid |
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Karote said: ... you know what, if both of us make it to day 2, ill def get you to participate, just wait :)lastwhisper31 said: now imagine, if everyone else had that mindset, nothing would get done on day 1... so dont give me that bull... somebody has to do the dirty work day one, and it'd be nice if you like gave even a little bit of insight on everyone's thoughts instead of just out right plagiarizing them to sheep a vote... But reality is, everyone's different :^) |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Ruu said: lastwhisper31 said: tbh the only reason I'm even considering Ruu might actually be scum, is strictly tone... doesnt feel like spastic!ruu, but again some posts do, when she half heartedly jumps out and calls people scum and seems so sure of herself. I wanted her train to grow, because one, Ruu is adorable when she AtE's and secondly, you can almost always deduce her alignment by how she reacts xD LMAO you are just like your brother, enjoying my suffering xD I dont enjoy your suffering I aint evil like kyle lol, i just like beating you :D Also why are u so spastic and overall just seem tense? |
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lastwhisper31 said: shit vote, place it else where Place it on trash karote or kyle at this point if you at one point thought we were t/s |
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Shinichi-Kun said: no, if we are t/s then ur the scum...lastwhisper31 said: shit vote, place it else where Place it on trash karote or kyle at this point if you at one point thought we were t/s |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Ruu said: I always think bastard is the same as role madness. It was my mistake. I already talk about this @lastwhisper31 I will vote however I please, I won't change my vote because you don't like my reasons. I'll change it when I find a stronger scum read. U think every game is bastard for some reason, and u throw around the bastard tag so easily. So your petty scum then what gives? If your not right your wrong, if your town there nothing wrong with changing ur votes based on the opinion of others. |
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Ruu said: lastwhisper31 said: i mean, even if I say its town!karote or scum!karote the deciding factor is ultimately you, so the question should be, which incarnation of Karote do you believe is in this game? Tbh, regardless of how much evidence we have for/against him being scum, hes still not very helpful, so ultimately it tends to dwell on the fact that is he gunna be useful regardless? Which seems to always be the case with Karote... I'm not seeing any plans behind his posts (traps or helpful pressure) so I'm leaning scum. But there is nothing that screams scum either. Everything he says could come from scum or town with him, that's my problem. I don't know his meta. Right now he is not helping town so I'm not against his lynch. My meta is useless, when I played as 3rd party in games, I was really inactive and same for scum ones. Latest one I got replaced out, lol. |
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lastwhisper31 said: Shinichi-Kun said: no, if we are t/s then ur the scum...Place it on trash karote or kyle at this point if you at one point thought we were t/s of course your going to say that, i still think ur town i was just pointing her at better options is all @karote knows i can get him to be active, ill just spam him on steam to stop being lazy. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: lastwhisper31 said: no, if we are t/s then ur the scum... of course your going to say that, i still think ur town i was just pointing her at better options is all @karote knows i can get him to be active, ill just spam him on steam to stop being lazy. pls no |
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