Do memes about an anime ruin the experience?

"Do memes about an anime ruin the experience?"

Well, the JoJo memes made me dislike it way before I had actual reasons to dislike it.

Also as Detective Conan fan I would say that its memes suck.

The only type of anime for which memes actually work are meme anime like Gintama. And yes, JoJo is meme anime too, but its jokes are too idiosyncratic, you must be a fan already to enjoy references to them.

@alshu

It's called a parody anime just like One Punch Man.



And it's called tasteless trash from coward authors which want to say something for hundreds of episodes but can't afford it so mixed genres to make it look like a circus with sad clowns. If you are looking for a meme-anime then you should point at Gurren Lagann and FLCL since they both have no any sense or artistic value but all flashy and silly just to be something. Now you know how things are.

@alshu

It's called a parody anime just like One Punch Man.



And it's called tasteless trash from coward authors which want to say something for hundreds of episodes but can't afford it so mixed genres to make it look like a circus with sad clowns. If you are looking for a meme-anime then you should point at Gurren Lagann and FLCL since they both have no any sense or artistic value but all flashy and silly just to be something. Now you know how things are.

One must be too deep into battle shounen and delinquent anime to find JoJo funny.



Trash aficionados like me adore it tho, it's the Holly Grail of vulgar jokes.
JoJo is just having childish fun with street tugs.



Being openly vulgar is being a coward...in Japan?
Whatever.

@alshu

What do you mean by that? What about "Jojo's comedy" is even in line with standard battle shonen?

Afaik the current blend of comedy in the anime/manga battle shonen stems from DBZ's Akira Toriyama which was originally a comedy writer and inspired a lot of we see now as a standard for the comedy of this genre — The goofy character that is overpowered and has some weird idiosyncratic thing, as if from a gag manga such as Goku, Luffy thing for eating, Zoro sense of direction, Sanji with Girls; Characters that might grow up but never lose that feel of a child.

Jojo's was a direct competitor of DBZ and has almost none of that. Both Toriyama and Araki were inspired in western comedy and put their own spin, which is more and more different as time goes on. Jojo's particular brand of comedy is exactly what is most jarring for shonen viewers: It just plays with the nonsense of it, while most Shonen want to keep immersion. Notice, for example, that there isn't a “punchline” in jojo's "funny scenes".

For example, compare Joseph vs Pillar Men and One Piece's Usopp vs Candy → Jojo's builds tension with the humour, which enhances the storytelling, but creates a disconnect that shakes immersion. Oda has the tension set up already and releases with the joke, so the sudden release in tension is what creates the comedic value, while pulling you in with questions of what happens then.

Later on, it is almost not a characteristic of Jojo's anymore. Gyro and Johnny, Yasuho and Josuke aren't particularly funny teams, their funny scenes are more on the "endearing side" - Which arguably makes for even better memeability, how serious it is in-universe.

I would even add that I think early Jojo's kind of humor, outside the references, is more easily found nowadays outside shounen: Monogatari series, Golden Kamuy, etc.

Funny that you mention delinquent anime ... Because the other great competitor of Jojo's at its time was Slam Dunk and that was the exact angle that Inoue took his comedy. Both genres you mention are almost exactly the other two big things that were still not very solidified by the time Jojo's was coming out and people already enjoyed it, so I think you can only be wrong: Jojo's comedy was successful at a time none of those were what we see them as today and is also successful today, when those things have changed with time.

I think you are trying to play too hard on the Jojo x Hokuto no Ken similarities when that is far from true. The comedy and outrageous dialogue was a big part of what set Jojo's apart from Hokuto no Ken at inception.

@raviwe
tl;dr

JoJo is not funny to me and my guess it's because I am not into battle shounen and delinquents.
And you quote stuff like DB and One Piece, but JoJo feels closer to Hokuto no Ken.

On the other hand I had fun with Golden Kamuy, so naaah. Your "is more easily found nowadays" doesn’t work either.
Not to mention the humour in Monogataru which you also listed, has nothing to do with both: JoJo or Golden Kamuy.

How is anyone capable of making a long post on this topic? There is no way someone can write a long essay on anime memes. These memes are very simple and very straight foward. Typically, it is impossible to make a post longer than a couple of sentences on the Internet.