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| It seems I'm in the minority in that while difrerent, it was a very good final episode I don't think i could've picked a better gundam to be my first 9/10 |
| @SakurasouBusters It comes from your virginity relatively to "Newtypes". Reading eps comments here and reviews in general, most people don't stand this basic element in the original Gundam universe despite how important it became at the end of 0079 and it being key to the story of the most acclaimed series (Zeta, 0079's sequel). Some even hate it. Taking that and the fact the episode isn't directly related to the "main" ones except for a tiny link and its epilogue into into consideration, it is not surprising. (btw, only a fourth of the watchers gave it a bad mark in this poll) Glad you liked it, strangely I couldn't lead myself to use this show as an introduction to its universe, maybe I should. ^^ I hope this infamous episode made you a bit interested in the Newtype thing and the series into the OYW enough (or maybe Unicorn will since it is the epilogue) to start the chronology. edit: I noticed you started Gundam 0079. xD (good luck with the TV version, some might find it indigestible compared to the cinema re-cuts) April 17, 2020 @Ten I only ever saw the "realism" argument given here. Isn't this primarily due to the relative "absence" of Newtypes and space sequences, and the outheast asian setting reminiscent of the Vietnam for the US imaginary ? I wonder if the japanese public saw it that way. (I find the realities of war better illustrated in 0079-0080 and for specific points in Victory and Zeta. |
Rei_IIIApr 16, 2020 11:39 PM
| look like my expectation for gritty and realistic turn upside down as for dull character bad acting horrible dialog/interaction, altho' i can't but admitted "bunch of mechs battle on the ground" itself were the things that's stellar |
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| pretty pointless episode. thankfully it can be ignored completely. |
| Given this anime's repuatation I was disappointed. Didn't find that I liked most of the characters and especially not Shiro's naive annoying ass. Almost everything involving Shiro and Aina was really cringeworthy for the most part. Favorite Gundam OVA is still War in the Pocket it seems. |
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| I actually like this one. It was sweet and tied things up well. I wanna give the show a 7 but I'm not sure yet. I'm glad I watch it though! War in the Pocket next! |
noGiAnimeJun 30, 2016 11:40 PM
| This felt like a filler or a sidestory more than an ending of the series, but as expected the real ending was the previous episode. That said this one had a very relaxing and mysterious feeling around it! I did loved that last scene though! Let's see what the specials and sidestory do have to offer but in general I did quite like the previous 11 intensely packed episodes! |
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| I feel like the comments are by immature teens here. This was a touching heartfelt epilogue, a perfect conclusion to the series. Its purpose was to show what happened after the war ended for the characters. Its deeply philosophical. If you watched this entire show just to watch mechas fight in Jungle, you are a fool who missed the point of it all. In any case...To see the commander & Aina start a new life, the horror of the aftermath of war for kids who were probably misused to be child soldiers by Zeon, most of the crew still soldiers and sent around the universe like pawns, with only Michel discharged...It was a good conclusion. A dark conclusion which shows very precisely and without hiding intent, the damage that war does to people, specifically this Federation/Zeon war. |
| Was this episode necessary? Not. This i think. The eleventh episode was a perfect final, with uncertainty, but in this episode we can watch a close final, if a say the true, prefer opened finals, when you can imaginate the possibles ends.... In summary, the series was genial ....8/10. |
| ... too short! It was entertaining .. but a bit overrated to be honest, i give a nice 7/10. |
| So BB left Michel....what a bitch thing to do. Yeah overall this episode was just not needed. Still is my favorite Gundam series though. |
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| I remember throwing this series under the bus for the much more serious War in the Pocket, but I've gained a newfound respect for it after a recent rewatch. The romance between Shino and Aina was cringy at some points, but their chemistry is still better than most anime couples today. Most of all, the visuals are excellent by even today's standards. Now I consider this the second best Gundam OVA, although that might change once I finally watch Unicorn and Origins. |
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| I have to say I did not enjoy this at all I would not say overrated but this show and war in the pocket is not for me the fist Gundam/zeta establish what Gundam is all about sorry to say I love my future like wars,newtypes/copies space/opera battle of laser beams star wars fantasy etc I don't mind the realistic versions of Gundam like 0080/08th but its not my kind of Gundam. |
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| I was expecting to dislike this episode but ended up really enjoying it, along with the rest of the series. Will definitely re-watch at some point =) |
| I cant believe Shiro and Aina got their happy ending. Michel should go out with Kiki already. Overall i think War In the Pocket was better story wise although 08 MS Team has better action. The romance of Shiro and Aina was rushed. Well Aina is pretty and maybe it was love at first sight for Shiro. Aina liked him back because of his kindness? I think Yuri Kellarny would be more interesting villain than Ginias. Ginias was just some crazy dude. Too bad the other members of 08 MS Team didn't appear in the last ep. I really liked how they all respected their commander Shiro. Time to watch Stardust Memory. |
| I'm taking this as an epilogue rather than the true ending, since we don't know how far in the post-war this is. Enjoyable episode and series anyway. |
Switch_ZJan 18, 2020 8:21 PM
| OK episode, but not really necessary. As already mentioned in ep.11 thread, I would've preferred a spotlight episode for Karen, who was the only member of the team not getting one. The entire episode runtime could've been used better than for an average epilogue, and the entire series could've been structured better to fill that extra episode in instead of making a long epilogue. Well, at least I got to see Kiki again. Though the whole thing felt a bit over-the-top, a former guerilla and a soldier got captured by underage kids with no weapons? Now that's realistic. Both could've escaped before even going to the "commander". Maybe they just didn't wanna though. Fighting over names...eh. I get that the kids are kinda traumathized but their trauma didn't feel realistic to me. Also funny how Kiki and Michel discovered Shiro and Aina so easily, like, they just sumbled upon them while searching through the forest and that's all. Easy find. Sigh, I don't know, this OVA was good, but it definitely didn't feel like "the best" Gundam out there, or even one of. There was quite a lot that could've been improved. We didn't even need that bit of info on Zeon NTs because we already had Lala being trained literally in the same place ("Flanagan Institute" was mentioned in the original). So the purpose for these kids to be shown almost disappeares altogether. The only thing justifying their inclusion in the story that remains is their connection to Shiro and Aina, showing the latter as "teachers" of sort, serving as a symbolic epilogue for both. But again, could've been better. If we're talking about great Gundam side stories, War in the Pocket definitely did more for me. This one is 7/10 I guess. P.S. Wat The 08th MS Team Novelization differs in several ways from the OVA, with the darkest and most drastic change involving Kiki. She is captured and gang raped by Federation soldiers, and in the middle of the horrific ordeal, commits suicide by biting her tongue. The event inevitably creates disgust and far more distrust towards the Federation by the guerillas. My poor girl |
St0rmbladeApr 10, 2020 5:47 PM
| I actually liked that this episode was focused on Kiki and Michel, it gives their story at least some conclusion. But I would have preferred not to see Shiro and Aina at the end, their "new life" should have stayed vague and unclear. I already disliked how the previous episode ended, but now they took a slightly bittersweet happy ending and poured more sweetness all over it. I don't mind that they are happy and all, but for the series proclaimed as realistic, I probably expected more tragedy. And while the whole romance thing was interesting at first it turned out to be pretty much silly with little substance. Other characters of the team seem pretty random at this point with almost no significance to the story overall. Hence, this episode wasn't that bad in my opinion, it at least ties up some loose ends for them. Symbolism with the names was also a nice touch. I'm not sure where exactly the whole show went wrong, I really liked it at first and it had the potential to be great. It has a pair of characters who are determined to stop the war for the sake of love, mad brother as a villain, good setting and diverse cast of supporting characters. But with each episode, it felt like almost nothing happened. There were highlights, sure, but almost no deeper development, they just decided to do this and that as if rehearsed plot points, even their love doesn't appear natural but is just there because it makes the story "more interesting". As well as brother's obsession with Apsaras seemed to come from the need to create conflict rather than from any reasonable motivation a realistic antagonist should have. Well, maybe I just expected too much. It had some great ideas but the execution made them look more superficial than realistic as the show is acclaimed for. Not that it had to be realistic to be good, but it still doesn't help the overall impression. Rei_III said: @Ten I only ever saw the "realism" argument given here. Isn't this primarily due to the relative "absence" of Newtypes and space sequences, and the outheast asian setting reminiscent of the Vietnam for the US imaginary ? I wonder if the japanese public saw it that way. (I find the realities of war better illustrated in 0079-0080 and for specific points in Victory and Zeta. Looking at it like this, the setting is indeed more realistic. But maybe the show itself wasn't intended to be this way in the first place. After watching Miller's report it's clear to me that the main characters are very idealistic and the main theme was to push this idea forward, how they don't have to fight if it goes against their beliefs, but I guess in real life in real war this would have ended tragically and they most likely wouldn't even survive past the first couple of episodes. It's probably not a depiction of war realities after all, but simply a love story in a war setting. Too bad that the development in this department wasn't as interesting too. If only the characters themselves were more likable and their love for each other wasn't so sudden on the verge of unbelievable. |
TenApr 18, 2020 8:53 AM
| i acknowledge only the previous episode as the ending but this was also pretty nice u also gotta love that closed eyes smiling scene |
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| Was nice seeing Kiki again and getting a happy end for Shiro and Aina after the sudden end of the last episode. Certainly makes this show even more weird though. Only thing weirder is how this has a rating above 8 when everyone here seems to hate it. I liked it, both the show and this episode. But it felt like 2 completely different shows glued together. One half with a rather lighthearted take which focuses on more characters and one more abstract, philosophical, focusing on the romance of 2 characters. Kind of like the cut in Full Metal Jacket (Michel sort of reminds me of Joker or whatever he was called) Regarding what was mentioned about Kiki in the novel ending, UC Gundam so far is weird. It has lots of grim elememts but never really mentions them much. This show had a flashback of Shiro witnessing a gas attack on a space colony, but thats really just a short scene. So novel Kiki would fit the grim part but not the light hearted half of this show. Maybe it got influenced by shows of its time like cowboy bepop and trigun? With the mix of completely different elements. Its just really weird. Gas attack on a colony, people dying all over, shooting down med evac ships, war, but also some nearly cartoonish happy end and lots of light banter. I think this had potential but simply needed more episdes to be executed well. A lot of times later on I thought I missed an episode with sudden changes between episodes like Shiro beeing jailed and suddenly let go the next. 7/10 |
Comander-07Jun 30, 2021 2:49 PM
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would describe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Hopefully those Zeon kids won't be soldiers, and will live a peaceful life. Michel and Kiki finally located Shiro and Aina, and it appears that Aina is pregnant. Of course, they'd both be court martialled if they went back, so it appears that they're living off the grid in solitude. This was a really good anime. All the good guys survived, and they were all likeable in their own way. |
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| Pretty good conclusion. Despite i thnk episode 11 is the real ending, this final episode isn't bad as some people claim. Probably my favourite part is the romance, it was wayyyy better than other romance in Gundam. 8/10 for the anime. |
| BANZAI NIPPON. Nippon is the Land of freedom. Nippon is the Land of Peace. Nippon is the Land of Justice and Prosperity. In Nippon, we trust. We love Nippon, we love Anime. Anime love us, Nippon love us. 日本 I believe in freedom of expression. |
| This ending was okay. Felt more like filler but it's not all bad. I liked Michel's and Kiki's chemistry. Nice to see them as good friends. I felt as if they could of done more with this episode. Maybe show Shiro and Aina caring for and teaching these kids things, get them on their feet, but we didn't get that unfortunately. What we're these kids in the lab for? Why were they being experimented on? How did Michel and Kiki find the exact location of where Aina and Shiro were in nothing but trees? Some things just aren't really explained. I don't hate it, but it's not great either. To me, episode 11 is the ending, cause we knew Aina and Shiro survived. If this episode wasn't so filler feeling, and the romance wasn't so rushed, I'd give it a 9. But 8/10 it is! Great. |
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| The shit taste of MAL never ceases to amaze me. Great and unexpected epilogue, it closes everything in a really nice way. 8/10 to entire series, in the second half it got really great and it had the best fights in the franchise. |
| I also truly, HONESTLY, believe that first page commentors and most of you are teenagers without any experience in life if you don't think this is one of the best Gundam shows ever created. I honestly believe it. Don't care how many anime or robot mecha shows you have watched, this is truly a real soldier point of view show which is obviously backsided because of the love adventure of the main protagonist, and just maybe, because you like Zeon over the feddies. During my rewatch of this amazing show, I just wanted to praise Chihiro Yonekura and her amazing voice in her songs. I could've gone to her concert but I missed out. Also, to my favorite squadron of soldiers: Sanders, Michel, Eleodore, Karen and Shiro. Best fucking squadron ever. People don't know jack shit if you think there wasn't even a bit of character development during 11 episodes. Real soldiers, real combat mobile suit to mobile suit, what else can you ask? Shiro isn't the perfect MC but at least he's honest and to me, a very outstanding newtype. 8/10 |
| "Manga readers are annoying, all they do is complain or spoil the anime we discuss in an anime forum. They should really do their whining at manga forums." Stolen from Janethan23. Add in visual novel readers too |
| Really great epilogue, I personally wouldn´t have shown Shiro or Aina at the end but hey, the rest of the chapter was dope. I really enjoyed that abandoned warzone setting. |
| I have a rather mixed opinion on this series. There were parts I enjoyed and parts that were just fine for me. I liked the characters but the story felt a little fast or rather it feels like they jump from point to point especially towards the end compared to the more slow paced beginning, likely just to bring the character arcs to their conclusion. I don’t have any qualms about ending, in fact I liked this episode. 7/10, finally time for Thunderbolt. (Watching UC in chronological order) |
Lelouch0202Apr 4, 2022 12:14 PM
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| Shiro was missing in action, but his teammates never stopped believing. These kids were victims of Flanagan from 0079 (no surprise his flashback uses Yasuhiko's redesign of him for the movie trilogy). They had their names taken away from them in the inhumane Zeon experiments. After the Komusai crashed they also abandoned the dog tags. Shiro and Aina gave them the new names based on their own and the members of the 08th MS Team which is why they are overprotective about their names being taken away, because it had been done before. |
 Novels I have read/am reading pending approval: since November 10 2022 |
| this ova series fails to engage with almost anything that makes a gundam anime worth watching. it might as well not even be a gundam story. there's some great animation cuts especially in the desert episode and the music is good but that's really all it's got going for it. the characters are boring or annoying, the story is completely inept at conveying how or why anything is happening, events just transpire and characters bluntly react. it feels like this anime was written by a teenage boy with no imagination. this last episode makes this worse by taking the almost interesting nebulous ending of not knowing what happens to aina and shiro and then just futzes around for half an hour before revealing they were alive the whole time. who even cares. i kept seeing the edges of an interesting story in moments throughout this whole anime but none of it ever amounts to anything. it's just disappointing |
bizorJan 7, 2023 5:38 PM
| i don't know why everyone seems to hate this episode/anime, i loved it so much. |
| ''Touch the darkness inside me'' |
| Kind of a trippy ending. Why would Shiro and Aina just leave the kids there and not just have a cottage with them? Cool to tie in Dr. Flanagan and all that wackiness although it's sad. Did Michel and Kiki just keep walking and randomly find Aina and Shiro? Oh well, all in all really enjoyable show. |
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